The Opel Zafira. the car exchange.

mileage not less than 300 thousands!

apparently we are not so hot

was Opel, with zero as the crystal coast, to 70ti thousands all fell down, broke that other brands always and Vice versa worked the fact that all consumables.Oddity with plasticine wheel too, I noticed, had to win over to 40th thousand under warranty and the buttons are the same as in the photo, under warranty changed but after 6 months they are again as clay jammed a day in the heat.

kOOlik

Well actually many people do not agree.
Owned the Astra, took used four-year-old with a mileage of under 90 thousand at that time, the mileage seemed very real and not-so-little for years. Went even years 5T by little (live in the center are a) hitting 40 thousand.
The buttons on the stick was rubbish. Have procalis noticeable.
Steering wheel — stuff: button ("krutilki") was killed on the similarity of the pictures here — they have a rubber such at these krutilki, which is either from sweat, or wiping chemicals are wiped and it turns out this effect. the skin is also stripped at the top of the steering wheel (maybe again because of the rings my wife and that I used it rubbing).
Transmission automatic transmission — faux leather is also worn in a couple of places — holes such as here.
The seats weren't really like that, but faux leather is jammed and the size of its "gone"... But we are not thick)
Drives doroznie changed around to not 130. (back however I think the wear was not strong, just salinero guide of the caliper and the disc has podelilsya.
The pad on the brake pedal changed, as were worn significantly.
Most of it died in front of me, "eyes." Mileage is in principle not much more. We addressed carefully enough (I'm not "naezdnica" on machines and not give the wife too much).
In short I think half of this is the stocks of GM and not the signs that the mileage on the car 270...

I FULLY SUPPORT, with GM-never will.

Trader42rus

Tell me, a Russian General, the common practice to twist the mileage, or it happens in rare cases? Just in Finland for example all to be honest, sold a car with 200-300 thousands. km, but this is real mileage, not particularly trying to cheat. But with this course thinking about buying b/y from Russia, but it has never faced — only salon took...

Russia does not go well with high mileage, mostly up to 200T.km

Mileage is supposedly in the region of 150 thousand. Salon "modern" Opel (especially OAN, OZB, OVC) — not an example to follow, in the absence of care hankovytsya quickly.

The actual mileage can be read from the brain, even simple OP-catfish. The ECU rarely twist — it's expensive! Often just get in the mascara...

Very similar to a run of 250 t. km. +

mishok25

The whirlings on the wheel — this is a problem that is not poop in his hand. Climbed Whirlings to 200 run. There is clearly 200
Yesterday my brother was watching the car. For the first time saw the outbid, which changed the pedal pads. The mileage on the collection tubes 95, sydeham, buttons, steering wheel, cat — 200, and pedal nulevye

maybe the pedals were 350 mileage)) and there are only 200, beauty))

Seven hundred seventy one thousand four hundred thirty three

Op-Com /even Chinese/ tell the real mileage. On this topic can be closed. Mileage of Opera "to kill" is expensive /about $ 200. + we need experts with Gumowski scanner, hands and original blocks, which is changed in the engine compartment/ meaning "from all sides was the same mileage".
Cynodon can ruin a 20 thousand run. The wheel in this state comes through 150K /if hands are sweaty or dirty — then even less)))/. The lever is "broken" ring-a signet. Leatherette rubbed due to neurasthenia driver /and the jam key + "whirlings" on the steering wheel — the same diagnosis)))/. The pedals, by the way, not overwritten at all.
Rubber /native Conti or Bridgestone/ never reach this mileage.
Conclusion: the car was at a very family educa, which at her time was not enough.
Know one figure which has since 2007 the Focus was never cleaned inside. The car ran 50000 /supercenter/, and salon NO...

shorter went Gypsies, just on each finger the signet))

I did not want bayanchik post, but still break a little:

www.yaplakal.com/forum7/topic1065872.html

I sold the Astra H GTC mileage 50000 real. The car was 6 years old and the cabin was ideal. Now the girl of my mileage is 148000 on the same Astra 2006. Salon ideal. There are just under 300 thousand, if not more

I have in the Vectra C is approximately the same wear, and I have mileage 175тыс orig.

Again, how and by whom operated cars. I saw a Astra H station wagon with a run of just USD 70 thousand, so the skin peeled off the wheel, man the Builder, concrete worker went to robe constantly in the cabin, smoked with closed Windows and ashes on the floor shook.

I Zafira sold with mileage of 120,000. The interior generally was ideal. The keys and buttons are not worn.
But LKP weak at the Opel...it was a lot of chipping.
As cat handlebar grips and pedals, the mileage of 300 thousand.

He stuck the key into the ignition, holding the pedal. There are errors.
Explain how to find out if there are any mistakes? What's that?

I had the sad experience of owning a GM (Opel, Chevrolet) compare with VW (Polo, Jetta) GM loses to the nines!

The fact that VAG, and especially the Volkswagen, is better Opel complete lie.

Cruz Korean was universal, there motor was opalewski not like sedans, and powerful. The fact that the identical components and parts from Opel and Cruz know GM wire car after all) On the cruise did not sweat. There electronics are rather weak as in J-ke.

cool) well, J had not. and so Cruz and Jay the same thing, but Chevy is simplified and cheapened Opel. for example the Opel engines were dry, and those old engines put in Chevrolet sweating. why probably know)

not sickly) I have three Polo ride (taxi), you know — all strictly in terms of operation, runs on poliko from 120 000 — 145 000 km (cars soon 2 years). THEN every 10 000 km, all the time changed on the two cars pump (80 000 and 110 000 km) and on two stands staba one time (with 75 000 and 90 000 km). That's about it. ;)
GM was in a taxi, it is the Opel J and Chevy Cruz here with them was crap, especially Opel, broke everything!

this is for you to policem luck. simple working the floor of the sedan is a 35-thousand — 2 times anti-roll bar, rack, rear amorti well ordered and piston was replaced under warranty — banged))

You are lucky, Opel and Foltz heaven and earth, he is more than 60,000 km travelled in his VW, only routine MOT, the only thing that changed transverse stabilizers. Opel was (a new body, was bought new at the dealer), broke from birth.

structural

With keys at Opel do so, I have the mileage 88 thousand buttons failed. And the reason is that the radius of the small key here and click on the way to the car a few times, and sometimes I think maybe jammed something even more pressure ) so it happens )

about the radius to the point (I have a way on the primary key is already 39 thousand buttons not so hot — click understand much. but not worried — the case replace is not a problem), and over 40 thousand mileage problems nolog, all the friends of Volkswagens such a distance — out of warranty do not get out. well, then superimposed relation to the car. I have a guy on Astra 2004 rolls. machine groomed and is not going to change — what asks? on largus 600. not comme Il faut)))

judging by the prices for new cars so drzewo 405 for it. and 440 cheap. something like this

It seems to me. . . . . . It oooooooooooo nerdy!

rubbing!

By the way my cruise when selling transmission, seat and small scratchy on the body was similar as here.)))
But the steering wheel here wandoan too much. =) Yes, and the key. Strange car, I would call it dumb. =) So to say pushes without explanation.)

well, what is described through the cabin and externally we have is a great European, not run well 380 and 280... right... now with regards to exchange...we have now on the contrary all change, because people have no money. and one other difference is paying and everyone is happy

I have the 1.6 mechanics in the old body
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With what You and congratulations! ;)

In the old body Opel safer, I agree, have a friend like this. I'm not trying to demean the brand of car where You move in space;) I am not a fan of VW, exploited different cars, including Japanese, and in comparison today, I chose VW. I share my experience, no more, which showed that the VAG products (specifically VW Polo sedan 1.6 105 Hp MT and VW Jetta 1.4 TSI 122 Hp MT) is more hardy, reliable and generally workhorses! :) And DIY GM, in particular Opel Astra (P-J1.6 AT) and Chevrolet Cruze (1.6 MT motor Opel 124 Hp) in comparison with the VW proved to lopucki and capricious. Happy to be rid of them;) Polo safely operate, require only THAT now runs from km 180000-210000 km. something Like this.

I have the 1.6 mechanics in the old body. every 12 thousand. any petrol. VAG in sight which is loose bucket compared to the Opel. good luck :-)

Maybe You were lucky or I was unlucky. Owned Opel Astra (new body) 1.6, automatic, new interior, constant glitches electronics, cars stupidly refused to go and was able to stall on the move, on the highway at speeds of 100 km/h! The machine periodically gone back speed or a manual shift mode, drove (5 times!) on the tow truck to the dealer diagnostics did not reveal, (the dealer said you are all OK!) car worked fine!:) Leaving from the dealer, and on the same day or in a week again repeated, falling revs, not car rides, stalls and won't start. Got rid of that bucket! GM is lauchie bucket! In parallel with the Opel was the Chevrolet Cruz, a Korean, (the new salon) motor 1.6 opalewski also glitches with electronics, sensors, motor Troilus, farted, he lived his life. In General a disgusting experience of owning DIY from GM.
P. S. All dances with a tambourine around these cars was when runs of no more than 40-50 thousand km THEN every 10,000 km, petrol LUKOIL.

Opel lamouchi? 50 thousand — 1 time candle + oil filters.

This is true (taste and color), but I'm more about what Opel lamouchi entire what, anything exterior, the interior is weak, the quality is inferior by far compared to the Jetta. The 1.6 motor is weak, the dynamics and driving pleasure of the Jetta better.
PS Can You test on a 1.6 atmo ride? Not? ;) there are only 105 hp)) Jetta TSI happens in our market: 122 hp i150 hp.

well, I even 140 strong Jetta compared to a 1.6 Astra did not like the test does... so that sucked and what not — the taste and color)))

Compare real, because all of these cars are exploited. Perfect car in this price category probably does not happen. My Jetta Assembly Mexico, maybe it's the impact, really pleased with the car and no problems and in comparison to the Opel — Opel dull GаMно. Polo is a workhorse, for the money quite well behaved.

you're so hard to praise the VW vs Opel) really schitaia Jetta Acme of perfection? :-) the mere fact that the body made on the gas is even seen. about plastic oak and other will not speak)

AdamWalworth

was the first owner of the Astra H, and the wheel due to the heat on the 6th year and 75T.km was the same cracked(but not dirty)even threads in the grip were worn, buttons for a week in one of the hottest weeks rustavelis like clay(HE OH.EAT), very tender.the seat had worn and the same white stripes, but not too thick Asses it was not slipped to the edge as pictured.But I would not be surprised if the driver is full this happen with the seat, knob light and the Windows IS GM . Regretted that he had bought .For 6 years, and 82t piston.km he just constantly broke, even if not ridden, just started, a little traveled-hear-something is wrong.To PEEL PAINT AS SHELL eggs.sold for 2 years.CROSSED AND STILL THANK GOD.what get rid of this devil GM

I agree — GаMно full was the Astra in a new body, broke all the time! Bought new, from the familiar Chevrolet Cruze loachim was less, but the same GаMно.

double mileage sits in the engine control unit. in the diagnosis of normal equipment show. self-test the pedals show only errors on the motor

The buttons, knobs. This is all very subjective.
From my own experience I can say that a woman with two children and a dog will easily bring the car to a similar condition for a couple or three years of riding in Moscow and near Moscow suburbs. Despite the fact that the mileage will be a little more than 60 T. C. M. (two broken banks of cherry compote, forgotten in the car for a week turns the trunk into a blossoming garbage)

Of course

Well, I'm not put it there)))

Robot? The gift is not necessary

2011 can offer on the robot 21000 mileage intact, if you need more.

thank you captain obvious!

you have in mind, then write. It is foolish to generalize different models of one brand.

Opel has always been shit, even new is a lot of eating, breaks and anything not going!and the mileage on the odometer is finally for dummies, if not worse...

Mdaaa, how can we blatantly lie to sell. Here and then buy b/y car )

no, definitely C grade. I personally own the device Op-com, which on many machines and in the best condition — shows mileage 340, 420, 380, etc. Already on a considerable number of machines checked the mileage, and the result is less than 300 thousand km, I was in Russia machines are not seen.

or two

Just erased edinichku at the beginning of the run.

great!-looking at the salon, I would have stopped
E)))))
looking at the handle and the key status estimated mileage 180, although I have 180 and this is not-I don't even know how to treat a car that used to kill!

everyone drives and uses the car, when I took her with mileage in 330тыс everything was perfect, over 50 thousand have I Ugra what the car can safely give Lam (cleaned the car the previous owner the last time in 2012 before purchasing)once and children regularone drive and materials and leather is not very good, the last time a 2-meter mirror came through the ceiling and cut the card. so the mileage may be real, and the condition of the cabin ideal for me!

You just Opel)

Not up to date this joke already

Any machine eventually becomes Opel)

well the seats I have side is also torn to foam, while the car had a mileage of 60 thousand were at the time. But the rest yeah

My brother's Opel Astra with the real mileage of 130 thousand Key looks even worse.
Wear buttons window regulator and Twister in the middle is also not an indicator of ESP could shorcut here and there every three minutes and every trip (and not visible in the photo of heavy wear) and whirlings of the middle on the steering column control, too polished to be easy and quick, especially if at each visit to include dimensions or light.

This is the norm)
I need the car to bring in the waist a couple of details ( Skoda Octavia scout 2008) the owner took the car to the cabin. Now the mileage is 130 thousand. She Oregana so( used in all possible and impossible purposes. First, the salon is not very clean, in the second belt of the driver is very much frayed fabric insert door rubbed to the foam in one place. The wheel and handle manual (leather) polished. Windows have the exact same problem... Erased, midverse stand is also in a terrible state. In comparison, my car has 180 thousand I in fact 4 owner. And all ideally)

Bought a year and a half ago Astra H Cosmo the dealer put in a trade-in, 2 yrs, 26 thousand mileage. All signs were consistent with the mileage — the interior is just like new, none of the elements are not painted. As said, the guys at the tire shop where I went to change the shoes (took the car in December on summer tires), the wheels generally never after conveyor machines are not removed. The tire itself is also new.
That's all I need — the primary key was pushed three times stronger than the Zafira! Sorry the photo is not preserved. Before that I had N Astra 2 years and 34 thousand km, the key to the sale was as good as new.

Thank you! Long time no puke!
"fingers dipped in the toilet, in the shit, then scored on a finger as much poop, and then pressed the buttons..." a MASTERPIECE!

For a good machine in the salon !

Yeah ... Stuff like

It is possible that the real mileage on my car, I work, yet 100 thousand mileage, and condition, the same elementov even a little worse than this Opel

3K it's even good for the day, I agregatchik worked at Volvo,2K a day average, so nah I didn assholes. tear over 2K a day, at first, made to last, and then...how to get))

Can this same market... Restail B-ASCI on the move, cheaper than the 350 is not for sale, and then exchange. PS: Well, at least in the capital is not found.
And at the expense of schools: such schools think up to 2 days to eliminate me(and I'm not particularly Opel work). and services for the day, in Moscow, wages barely exceeds 3K((

its real price is not more than 300. how to understand about half of the resource?)
Motor tomorrow can stand. errors in the timing gear, thermostat, column rear right, both runoff, imobiliser and so on.

she snot dead)))) hurt))) I would 300tr I would not need))) just zhto its real price) for 400 you can take HORAAAAAAAAAAAA better! Many times better

In gopesh not strong. it restail? If so, then up to 400K +huckster +exchange. The new 800 is, and half resource there is)))

What is the real price of this car in your opinion?

Well, everything has to match the price.
For example, painted the hood, bumper, fenders... well rust before, but then the cost should be lower.

A159632478

Sometimes I read the posts aftora. notices shoals inherent in the majority of B/Ear machines that the speed is not affected or even roughly the consumables (tires, Lobach. the timing belt still may be worn)). it's and used. Ofitserov new car painted meet. and then from old to want condition like new.

If the car without a muzzle or without a cabin, it also does not affect speed))))) it's coming)))

Go to the blog, look how older cars are in much better condition.

Sometimes I read the posts aftora. notices shoals inherent in the majority of B/Ear machines that the speed is not affected or even roughly the consumables (tires, Lobach. the timing belt still may be worn)). it's and used. Ofitserov new car painted meet. and then from old to want condition like new.

Replaced the brains of the engine

mileage with this seat valance, key and guard a checkpoint near 200 K. I don't understand why op is a lump with a brain is not believed?

I have the mileage on the Astra to 210 and everything is even better than bigadic here.
With steering buttons, with key, with almost everyone.

Mileage 200+ and the like, used as a minibus.

All written does not apply to knomo case I'm talking generally. Srochnyj there are a lot of comments that the wear corresponds to the mileage. My opinion is that buying a car to drive and not for the fun of it investment any investment needs to fight back. So the car has to be in good condition that would be in the subsequent squeezer 3 years it can be drained with a minimum loss. Having a certain amount better to buy a car of a lower class than the barn but the Mercedes. According to this. what is the mileage and how many owners and what year is it if the car ushatana to consider it, even as the purchase makes no sense

On the odometer the range of hundreds of kilometers of cifaa zero so twisted 089145, must be 89145

For the future, many other Safiri will be someone to watch. So here is the fogging of the rear lights is normal. It is black in Russian is spelled out in the manual.

I am more interested. Apparently, at least 100 tyk unscrewed. But with all this, the car wasn't a bat...it's weird...Sure the foliage is not kitamaebune is, the gaps in place?

I'm on Zafira B from zero dashed 265000км and the car was in top condition despite two small children. I think the mileage is 300,000 or more a lot of short trips — even worse. It is interesting to look from the bottom on the car, and the wear of the paint from the door seals. And pedals I changed to 160+ the thousand.

The steering wheel is peeling off because of the heated and gearshift lever rubs out the rings very quickly. The second car is Opel))Soon all the schools will know by heart.

Just presses on pity
Type friend
Understood thanks for the advice

send him and all

Sergey please changed days buy cars with my fee, the money given at once.
It has been 2 days I put the car on the account, accordingly it is not.
Now he says that my car warms bad stove and requires repair at my expense.
How can I be?
Or offers back to change everything in my current car it is the owner and was not.
Please tell me