flour of choice or is there life after SUBA?
Hi all, yesterday shook hands with a good man and sold to the sub, today I will give.
The question is why I will not answer, internally, it is the time and so I drove it longer than any other car in my life not counting racing.
Now the question arises what next? as always, desire is way ahead of the ability.
To be honest at the beginning of the sale and now there are 4 fundamentally different directions.
100% of the basic requirements of cars not older than 2009-2010, left hand drive, the budget to 750-800 (if you break my ass and still take)
Consult in each category for a pair of models that satisfy the conditions and showed good operation. Thank you!
And so options
1. Lancer Evo/SUBA — well, everything is clear, but in my budget they either all Tunisia or utrachennye either cost money which I do not. (I'm such machines prefer to not buy off the street and have a history of those people who care about cars)
Evo Subar want more because I have had 4)
In this variant apart is one big exception — Subaru Impreza WRX STI Type RA Spec C 2005.in. with a mileage of 50,000 km of my former Navigator, was brought several years ago with a 5A rating and have never rode in the winter. Show a picture to show why she is allowed exceptions.
Krista
Dignity
— ultrafast sports car
— careful storage without operation in winter, good service
— no serious accidents
— exclusive auto
Winter buzz
Disadvantages
— right hand drive
— very high price
— ekskljuzivnost
— expensive (well, at my yellow kanesh but still)
And most importantly, Roma still have to convince... he loves her, too
2. Option 2 hothatch not turbo. (downshifting but light)
Here first thought was the Clio sport, and today it is one of the main options. Thank you Dimonchello yesterday, he introduced me to his friends livadaki, conducted a full tour of the car told about the shortcomings and what can go wrong.
Advantages of this option
— budget for money in the region of 600 you can take 2011
— the machine is still cheerful
— great handling and good brakes
— relatively reliable among hot hatcha
— friendly service by brand
— given that the team Sudarev motorsport , all on the Renault it would be cool to have this as a show of Kara )
— Well, SkripnikovRacing will not lie rally regalia, this model is not enough as the sports roots.
— and as I dream its a race to change too, in Gananoque Clio, civil machine would be a help
Disadvantages
— forgive me the owners, but terrible poor interior, worse than zubarah if you know what I mean, the feeling that you're sitting in the sander – I wasn't expecting... and the wheel is not very okay, probably will of course, but minus is minus. (and most importantly do not understand why I was waiting for something else? )))
— a small selection on auto ru for example few in my terms so it will be harder to find a machine that didn't live in the time attacks
winter will be sad
not going, well, really weighs as a sub, and the motor is 1.5 less.
— specific product to sell is hard
3. Necesitan with a gun (Mercedes, Audi, BMW) tipo to pose as decent a Manager)))
I don't even know if it's possible in my money to fit something decent, although a few people recently PTS spoke positively about penny diesels Alpinsky and our mutual friends including.
Here did not go further but the obvious drawbacks
— lack of drive
— rotten not riding the motor (and normally money just is not enough)
Dignity
— comfortable "prestigious" car (in quotes because what prestige can there be when the car is bought for 3 pennies)))
is a relatively cheap operation
good marketability in the secondary market
Well, the photo has to be
4. Crossover which will allow to carry on the trailer a race car for a delivery problem recently gets an edge.
Dignity
— the universality of life from travel to the above mentioned purposes
good marketability in the secondary market
— four-wheel drive
Disadvantages
— a complete lack of drive
— lack of control
Tiguan 2.0 T, manual transmission it is possible to look for increase in power up to 300+
Upravlyaemosti good rides, the trailer drags. The trunk is small. Buy a roof box )
For 700-800 you can have a very fresh Scirocco to take the simplest motor. Will be a nice ride.
Clio is good, but I would take the Golf 6 GTi.
Camry 3.5 is waiting for you)))
or Teana 3.5 if it is necessary to slightly cheaper)))
BMW of the brain and Subaru in General is clinically similar in many manifestations )
According to the statistics of Avilon, many owners of Subaru then change to the BMW.
well, especially everything that is listed above — is completely suited to these settings :D
already tear broke from how easy X and what is cheap in service Audi)
SUBA slowly at times
on pokatuha heavy
service is not the cheapest
less prestigious than Meren/BMW
the trailer may not pull
from registration rally routes will crumble
Buy Alfa Romeo, be unusual))
All-wheel drive 260 horsepower))
Or if you don't want to be a regular refueling diesel 200 horsepower, in Moscow is...
True to the company can be cover :D
Audi A3 2 litre 200 HP Quattro, or if even faster with engine 3.2 250 mares, but the year doesn't fit your items
X1, X3 diesel. IMHO, of course) to Explain: Comfort, haul trailers are great, and the reliability seems not bad. And self-interest to read the opinion of the appropriate person on a BMW compared to subai)
Outlander Turbo, my friend has a 2.4 Stroker... really any kind of sub do not catch up :(
Combining Subaru and Crossover, you get a "Forester".
The idea goes bad, and the road won't pass, and carry the trailer can (the crossover is the same).
In my opinion, to sell the beloved car costs only if you specifically want some other, not undecided, and even to arrange a survey. Of the three proposed not dull only the first option.
Yes thanks... have already identified 2 models... aperio question small loan and search
Farik Turbo a good option by the way
at the Reno — three friends the train — sold tries, because in SPb spare parts expensive and not fast.
and then to drive you Logan will be more want to go to the races, Bush more opportunities to look for, and way less investing in podzhopnik — more on the race will go. With sports, I would have thought.
Clio RS — Drive the sea, but it is expensive. This I tell you as a former owner say. If the machine is to follow, it is all that it iznashivatsya — originalnoe and as a consequence worth the money. It is certainly not unbreakable, but pads, oil, steering knuckles, rims, rubber, God forbid, the automotive body etc. are all much more expensive. But he is very cool, nice ride. Every time I would get on with a smile and each time was upset when he took the handle of the door to close it, because it's made of nasty plastic and consists of two rasping halves. I agree that suitable to Logan, but if the purpose of the sale Subaru — the purchase of something more practical, I would not recommend it.
German premium something decent is hard to find for the money. Try the three universal to go see. To go to be "normal," the practicality of the sea, a diesel and a trailer to haul can. As an alternative to the Mondeo. The only thing that 200 and 240 horses with robots only, but for the money the most. And or Insignia, but it's kind of like a large, and sit in it — closely. But this is also someone like...
Crossover — again, from my experience I would say. A month ago I sold my Tiguan 2009. 2 liter turbo, 170 horses, a great car. Problems — 0. THAT is the sane of the money goes to a very worthy crossover a) dynamically b) turns (ESP off completely;), a normal automatic, not a DSG... well I think a good option. From minuses — simple-minded and too small (in the room and wagon space will be much more). As an alternative to the Kuga. The rest that is cheaper really does not go, and other Germans — it's expensive.
Someone advised Forester... I went a passenger on the XT — I liked it, but about the exploitation of know nothing.
Est variant:
-zena+
-obslugivaniye+
-praktichnost+
-year+
-buksir+
-razhod+
-tyaga+
no upravlyayemost-
comfort+-
Volkswagen T5 2.5 tdi
Mercedes Vito 120cdi
Vivaro
Caddy
Doblo 120multijet I prochie
Yes what is wrong downshifting and decided I have the Ralliart for me no tomasina
there's either STI or Evo in these brands, everything else is a compromise is not clear what
well when the budget doesn't allow this option, and to serve a little cheaper and goes much worse plus the AWD system is the same )
in the area of 800 thousand to buy the Lancer x Ralliart, in full drive and looks good, especially if the soul reaches out to Evo)
Maltar
Now sit down and think, this is the gift, or curse, to get to this path))) how think - continue to plow!)))))
I while the answers to these questions do not have))) I just Pasha))))
— (thoughtfully, on last night's nuts) ...If not for racing, I would have already bought an island in the Pacific ocean...
— If not a race, you would imagine even wool socks were too lazy to look for money! And then — like it-not home, spinning necessary.
True in your case utilitarian choice couples crossover + race car on the trailer. I have the same thing, only without a trailer))
If you don't mind MKP, I recently discovered that Opel Insignia OPS on the secondary not the most expensive car possible in your budget. Maybe not the most athletic in the class, but I think a decent car. At a friend's 2.0 t, very happy PRODIG 120 000km.
Meanie :( braces on tupare is PPC of course.clearly not enough
But everything else is great, and tuna is full of any.want throttle, you want a Jackson to put on low boost and already 300сил. Hybrid to 24/20 can be collected.and Klio figure that will make the shafts probably will not find
The brakes on the Clio is better, at the salon of Toper 100 times better, of course. Well-level reliability)
And taper is it not possible to take the money? and more choice than the Clio and knocks and brakes, even the interior is better
And why under the 4th category rassmatrivaetsya is the SUV with a gun. winter overtook awduche and "rode" on the turning *SS from the slope — so x_trail with the machine stopped and immediately announced that the hill my cart will not drag. had normal jeeps to wait padzherik 2000 years pulled like a feather my thrust 1450kg. And in the spring when he died Torsen me Safarik 80-ies(in perfect condition, like he and re went 30 years). 15 km pulling, I think he forgot after 5 minutes that he was still something there.
for the x, but the suspension is too weak to travel to places without asphalt. There's another like me, but really a vegetable in the runoff) to the total budget SUVs/crossovers do not go, not managed if you leave it in the drain...and work and financial investments in the improvement no one will appreciate on the secondary market. So I am for Subuh and Clio, the permeability is not particularly used, and nedostatok drive always shows up, even I would say Davet don't forget about yourself) it is better to feel sick and know that you have the car stock than to feel sick knowing that to turn the motor just pointless))
In the money of analogues of Clio can be seen Fabia RS, great car. Also Corsa GSI or opts(see GSI with motors much less, and 150 forces it is normal IMHO). The option of nemcom lovaza not exactly budget)
Ikstreyl a normal variant, unproblematic.
the focus St, very cheerful =) as an example auto.ru/cars/used/sale/1017270427-3fa8/
Can and directly to see the lower price tag will remain $$$ on tuning, Troubleshooting sores.
the date FX — that's just a year / the budget do not match — and not the diesel
— reliable Nissan
— well, life without hip — bespontovo life
— as far as I understand, the most expensive wheels
Volvo diesel 2.4 GHz (what you want)
— issues with spare parts
— trim (leather) no ice
— the machine is not the most reliable
next, some pros
See.
www.drive2.ru/r/mercedes/288230376152089748/
Nice car. Prestigious without the quotes. High. Comfortable. Universal. The drive is present though there is the prospect of more drive (power). To say that the engines, hodowca, box, cabin, body, etc. the merc is good, I think not. Mers is mers.
B. at. spare parts for pennies full. Adequate price — 600 rubles
I have such a donor for such a vehicle I sold. Any little thing will take for cheap sell.
In short, I'll be happy with the car.
3 BMW is not considered 325 you can try to take the rules state. But vegetable crossovers as they say it is only for smooth movement without any active taxiways.
Subaru Forester SG 2.5 XT
+ rides
+ manage
+ pass
+ easy to maintain
+ mahanadigan
— tax
the year
Fox Subaru, Forester, Nissan Juke turbo, about the juke, he would have thought, until it rolled, very funny what the 190 HP version
Opel Antara 3.2 or 3 (depending on budget)
+ You can find the 11-12 year
+ 227 — 249 HP
+ intelligent all-wheel drive
+ crossover
+ the ability to pump motor
+ price and year
+ comfortable lounge
+ excellent management and drive
+ decent service club
+ cheap parts
+ tax within a reasonable
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— difficult to sell
— Moody fuel
— not always worthy of the cross (in my experience)
— a controversial design
— box requires a firmware change (the drain does not go fast)
And what you Audi not pleased, I went on quatrefoil 2.4 mechanics, great unit. I would have bought it but had a son, and not to the machines now.
Germans for me are harder to repair and maintain. don't like them for it.
x-trail is a good option, he's kind of in its class economical considered) at least it used to be...
SUBA fire!) but probably not as the only car))) and for the soul)))
Don't know what denotes the word "trollol".
Among all the options.
Just a good option, which may initially, and was not considered...
Infiniti FX35\45 )))
Between 3 options)
I think this car is perfect hot hatch for our roads))
Fall to the budget even quite live car... like... only a year until 2008 and before.
Silvia s15 ;) skyline 32, 33 of Course practicality but there is no drive am glad you can look, but not for everybody BMW e50 (5 ka). In General, if the soul take subarika and not even think
Sudarev
and realized... it's where it shines
just since the amount has changed and the ideology permetrina
left 4 candidates
X3 and the Volvo XC60, 70, 90
BMW fun driving. Say not tried it myself ))
and realized... it's where it shines
just since the amount has changed and the ideology permetrina
left 4 candidates
X3 and the Volvo XC60, 70, 90
The question as you on this topic bumped?
Just since I've already written 2 post in which almost picked up the car from another ideology...
But a lot of people comment on this old theme, where she is popping up in advertising or the ribbon?
How it gets so many new users?
Read the topic title and was going to suggest Evo, but look you know that)) But in General I would have considered TypeR, great car, emotional and turns well and is quite comfortable, and most importantly, cheap and unpretentious in service
Fabia rs take it and not worry) or ordinary Fabia and sealed under features, the business is!
After Subaru and maskoobraznoe, or anything other than maskoobraznoe I can not advise), though it does not fit into a few paragraphs, but mark 110 IR-V I would suggest)
Alternatively, if Audi does not suit the motor, then you can look at S4 or S6. BMW M5 E39 fits the budget in principle.
Of toneloc infiniti FX35 advise (surprised himself), the 100th kruzak.
For — SG 5 or 9 from STI, but stock.
Do not have to uproot and civil order to cope.
Though the tow bar, even though the drift in the winter.
Reno — but something is not right)
The Germans will merge with topoi.
There are all kind of nice and practical, but you're still in the crowd.
And it is certainly not your element...
Nissan foru loses on all parameters.
In any case wish that would be money well spent
not only brought pleasure but also advantage)
Clio good tactics... in the winter how would a front-wheel drive can be fun and easy to ride =) harder of course than full-time.
Still as the variant Octavia RS...so just on the initial requirements of subject =)
Was legacy B4 BL5 turbo on the mechanics, after it switched to German, rear-wheel drive and automatic... a Habit and desire still left to the sub. So the choice is obvious!
All is well and the options are great. But, please, change the word "MERCHANTABILITY" in "liquidity")))
Practical options perhaps Skoda Octavia 1,8 T or RS... Scout at all posh, but the hike nbudget... But everything is either on mechanics or on the classic automatic, the DSG in the furnace...
Lexus IS250 — great Luxuri sedan segment, the reliability will give 100 points forward to any Mercedes, Audi and BMW...
If you select it from the Germans the Audi A4 (B7) 2.0 T quattro or 3.0 TD quattro (diesel automatic only!)
The option of Forester'th good...
Toyota GT 86 /Subaru brz was offered ?
the price is higher, but you can take 200-300K loan. it's worth it I think.
X trail. Do not for sporty driving!it is rather in the dirt!)and this machine state of mind.when chase is not a luck))).chord after I sat on it!even the wife says that the pressure on the pedal as it nehochetsya!although the chord all the time have slowed her down!)
I will put in my two cents. After Subaru of course don't even know what to offer. I would look towards Audi TT MK1(with the second just not familiar) 1.8 T wheel drive and 225 HP Engine well is not very expensive tuning
The right wheel fault?
The right wheel in 90% of cases is a guarantee of quality and many advantages which have left no fellow in the drain.
PS Take the Subaru.
I'm not subarist I'm an athlete, and to continue to engage in sportom need a machine which carries out certain functions
How can Subaru to exchange for some other car? If you subarist then do not hesitate and take the sub fresher) with turbo)
so why neededi front-heavy car?)))
but seriously everything is already purchased task to pull a trailer with a race car)
I think for the money you can take the fj cruiser.very reliable car not lesena drive, on it the sea all the whales tuning(it will not be boring) she's super practical and machine carriage the machine is easily silila.consumption from 14 to 17 liters, LPG to perfectly apply)