305. Mazda 6
Long requested, long awaited, waited for, and a Mazda 6. I want to apologize for the photo quality, some chaotic car inspection happened. Mazda was very dirty! Do You think for one show, when in dirt, her You all will pan out? Unlikely... Although there are those who actually wash before the show.
Will combine description of the model, with the actual inspection of used Mazda. 2012, one owner, 2.0 l at, first book.
Should write the word VAZ in the beginning of the post, because it attracts people's attention, and raises many comments. And again it is worth saying YES, the Mazda is also better than any Frets, even if it is Vesta.
Design.
Say their few words. I sympathize with almost all of Mazda's design! Really cute. They look beautiful! Does not look like a huge barn. Variegated appearance. The machine is more for the younger generation and the older better something poulaine, like Teany.
Oh well, on taste and color you know.
The internal combustion engine.
I only know of 3 motors, 1.8-liter — 2.0-liter — 2.5-liter. Perhaps there were still some, but they are not known to me. For example, maybe 2.3 set, but the most common are those three motors that I wrote. All motors are diesel, I think Diesel too, but probably not in Chelyabinsk))
1.8 l is This the motor that all the Hayate and spit on him. The type is the same as on the 1.8 Ford. Hard works does not go, he eats a lot of Maclear sometimes less liquid and so on. As I understand it, the 1.8 is equipped with a manual 5 speed gearbox. With guns, I did not notice them, correct if wrong.
2.0 liter. Already sold 6МТ or 5АКПП. A 6-speed stick shift gives great fuel consumption, not a bad dynamic, but often need to use the gearshift lever that pushes many at this car, the preference at all to the machine. The timing chain! And this for me is a huge plus!
On the inspected car was a 2 liter engine. Perfectly quiet and worked and served strictly according to the rules!
2.5 liters. This is much more fun, and even 6МТ, that's pretty high-spirited filly turns out, 170 HP(if not mistaken). And the best option for those who drive more important. Timing is also a chain, it goes long enough, the mileage of 200 000 km, very few people change.
In General, all motors are reliable, and their life with proper maintenance and service is quite large. Seen run 300+ on a 1.8 motor, which safely reeled in 80,000 km the familiar outbid and sold in the first market. And if nelyubimogo to 1.8 Mazda motors, they are quick to sell because of the price! It is much cheaper on the secondary market, usually cheaper but not always!
When buying BU Mazda, engine 1.8 liters, you just have to understand that it is maloor, it starts from 70 000 km approximately. But if the actual mileage 170 000 km, and the flap 70 000 km, then you know! All motors eat not less 95ого of gasoline, but in Russia people believe that 92 will do, so please check what refueled the car, and this indirectly will tell You about the attitude.
Likvidnosti.
I'll be brief. In the Urals, liquid, and very! If only the price was adequate, and the state alive.
Suspension
Front lever, not MacPherson. What does it mean?
So if you buy Martinique, the repair stand is not cheap, but more work and parts more necessary. Mazda did not differ reliability of the chassis. Common problems — bearings in the front hubs, bushings not as durable and as on all Mazda in General. Rake often may die up to 100 000 km, but not always. Depends on the roads and from operation of car, and the weather. Bushings and struts staba not durable, but it is consumable.
Rear, multi-link suspension. It is durable as a whole. You can drive 200,000 km and never in her not to climb, but again, depends on many factors that. And often, a few bushes back, to be replaced by 100-150 000 km.
The main problems of Mazda is hodowca, and buying a Used Mazda, should more attention be given to the vehicle chassis.
By itself, hodowca hard, and the car rulitsya nice, and it is nice to manage. Loves curves and is not afraid of them! But this is about Mazda 2012 release, but until 2010 some complained of poor taxiing that personally I was not noticed when driving this car. I generally ride on all the Mazda 6, and on all the engines. Outbid them I love, and I had a good test drive.
LKP — back.
Below you will see all the measurements LKP, all elements of the body, and you will understand why many complain about rust, and weak paint. In the meantime, I'll tell You, 95 µm roof. The rear of the car, just a little fatter colored, up to 130 µm approximately, just BU car there are small differences, but with every wash and with every year of operation the LCP is thinner. And other advantages of the machine, when it is BOO, we have problems with the chassis, with the motor, if the 1.8 l and with the body — its lacquer coating.
Therefore, the choice of BU the Mazda 6, look at the body carefully. Russia is big, somewhere pour salt, somewhere in there. Somewhere rolling in the gravel, where it does not clean at all. Condition and paintwork, in different cities may be different. But most importantly, we must understand that the LCP is initially thin, even on a new car.
Salon
Good equipment from Mazda. And in General I am very sympathetic to her salon. Not to say that good quality material, even more likely, they do not really, for the amount how much people on the secondary.
jpg width=960 height=362 itemprop=contentUrl>Everything is in harmony and at hand. As well as the armrest and glove box, not small in size, even in the door pockets will fit a lot.
But I was again surprised that the handlebars, up to 100 000 km all posekany, very efficient.
And of course, the drivers themselves are to blame, but in any case, there is rarely the handlebar for 100 000 km has no scuffs. And just take a look for yourself
And BU buying a Mazda, which is worth a lot second hand, don't want to see this steering wheel.. really I do not want to... But the equipment of the Mazda is not bad. There are rear view camera, navigation, climate control, colour display. About it pair of words. In my purely personal opinion, he looks stiff, and a little bit does not match the style of the salon! But this is my opinion only.
The seats are very comfortable for my butt! But again, their quality is not the best. Although the owner was not watching the skin for sure! But comfortable fit, all at your fingertips. And this is a big plus when you're comfortable behind the wheel.
Few pictures turned out, unfortunately, and just dirty... yet we all is Not beautiful, but BU car this thing is! And now we have rain and snow and so on. Special attention is given to the wheels of the Mazda.
225/50/17 , gives greater, better handling, more rigid press stand, with large pits. But everything is done for the sake of manageability.
And the brake discs have little wear. Often they change about + — 100 000 km of run. But someone how to ride, where rides, and what pads puts.
If You haven't figured the mileage, it will show You a printout of the dealer. Service book from Mazda electronic, as I wrote earlier, and paper books in the glove box you will not find. Therefore, there is a printout of the dealer
And mileage of such
No matter what kind of car You want to buy, as long as it's consciously, and You know in advance what You may face in the future operation. For example, prices of spare parts at least. And they, I would say pretty average, and a lot of good analogues substitutes. Even in the presence of basic consumables and hodowca there! A couple of items for You to compare prices of parts and availability of them in my city. All taken with Eksiste, you can buy cheaper Eksiste always
Mazda C236-26-151D hub Bearing front 31 3 days.3 048,08 R.
SNR R170.49 wheel Bearing kit 3 warehouse office 2 274,18 R
Pilenga PW-P 2170 Bearing front hub 3 warehouse office 890,68 R.
Mazda GS1D-34-700G depreciation Strut, front right 3 days. 6 615,29 R
341449 Kayaba gas shock Absorber suspension, front right "Excel-G" 2 1 days.4 049,13 R.
Mazda GS1D-28-700H Strut * suspension, rear right 22 days. 9 185,94 R.
349063 Kayaba gas shock Absorber suspension, rear "Excel-G" 2 In the warehouse office 2 523,81 R
But the eternal question — what to pay attention to when buying auto BU? here HERE, in the 7th paragraphdescribed what! At all! And I see all machines the same, and only looking at all, you can evaluate the condition of the car, and a trip to STO before buying is a must! Especially in the Mazda! You can find many interesting on the mileage of 100,000 km.
I do not dare to call the Mazda reliable! But here's a FACT, with mileage of 200 000 km to 300 000 km, it can eat money much less than some other cars in its class. As is generally reliable atmo engines, with Grom on the circuit, and in addition this circuit to the mileage of 300 000 km, change may not have anything in the engine. And hodowca essentially a consumable, although on some cars it is much more durable than the Mazda. In General Mazda, good middling.
All The World
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The sky at the car only.
Not only that, but in Russia do not deliver such. Skyactive appeared on the restyled GH in EUROPE
iqit
"serviced strictly under the rules" is a diagnosis. she, too, dies strictly by the rules as written instructions. to serve the mind and condition, not according to regulations. dance kraskorm don't understand: I have always been drum dyed car or not, fighting or not... the main thing is how it is done. want a new car — go buy a new one, and Ipat brain to seller b/a the car with mileage in the 80 tkm all sorts of kraskoterke is nonsense. drove to the service, check the geometry, looked at the presence of rot. there spakle or not — what's the difference? if the eyes are in place, that shitty painted detail to notice can be easy, and if the part is normally made — and to hell with it... and IMHO the motors: the greater the volume, greater the resource.
dude, I support you fully!
the ones who paint for themselves, and the units are not pictures of painters seeking to earn some where not seen
the difference in bat and not the bat car, only one: if you buy a car b/y, and for a long time, then broken and painted the car in our climate will rot, especially the jammed floors, thresholds, etc. that's all, if you take a used/have a car for the season, there is no difference, she won't fall apart
"serviced strictly under the rules" is a diagnosis. she, too, dies strictly by the rules as written instructions. to serve the mind and condition, not according to regulations. dance kraskorm don't understand: I have always been drum dyed car or not, fighting or not... the main thing is how it is done. want a new car — go buy a new one, and Ipat brain to seller b/a the car with mileage in the 80 tkm all sorts of kraskoterke is nonsense. drove to the service, check the geometry, looked at the presence of rot. there spakle or not — what's the difference? if the eyes are in place, that shitty painted detail to notice can be easy, and if the part is normally made — and to hell with it... and IMHO the motors: the greater the volume, greater the resource.
Radio does not fit the design because it is not native, this is the Chinese balalaika. That does it all. Himself with this bought. Changed to pioneer. The Chinese sell.
I agree with you, my dad has a 1.8 skated a bunch of times, and I do not know where the author has taken what it does not go and does not pull, is complete nonsense. Serves the father of her himself, 2008 year machine, 3 years of operation changed only brake pads and all. He took a cabin in Moscow
my friend has a Mazda 6 with the 1.8 engine. The actual mileage of 130 000 km, service this machine I do, so her condition known to all. The rack and pinion El.amplifier was replaced under warranty this year has changed the front wheel and the intermediate bearings, oil and filter and pads are not counted. Everything else is native and not asking for a replacement. Why is she not reliable? about butter — a drop from replacement before replacement
Do not argue, even I agree. But to start the car too if not treating her well, and not very nice it must be to sit in this mud. I do not watch the weather, pouring rain or not, my car always if very dirty and do not care that it rains. All the dirt you need from time to time to wash off.
what You are wrong. I recently sold my car replacement. .Just a bunch of calls, every second spoke today I just come back later... And came to the unit, Someone condition is not satisfied, someone rubber, someone overweight 5 rooms on a single host, someone something else. So, my car was a little cleaner and asking to wash the car before inspection, I was told that now autumn, three times a day of pouring rain, mud everywhere, and nothing to wash will not. Come see if you in General machine satisfied, then we'll go together to the sink, I will wash it and see the condition of the varnish.
Because each day to lose an hour and a half, to spend 250-400 RUB well, not chic, especially when mainly come omnisky things you want at a price uchetnoi ten-year five-year to buy a car ideally
this is great!! How is it not a shame less new car show like this? I'd even watch it was not because of this relationship.
The author, where you get that 1.8 maslosemnye? I have a 1.8 161к mileage not eat a single gram own the car for 6 years. L8 always been considered the most trouble-free motors. But oil eat like 2 times and 2.3. You are not competent in choosing the Mazda.
In the first generation of 1.8 the chief had, after 170-180 thousand mileage began to really eat oil. A couple of liters from replacement to replacement. I have 2 liters was 280 thousand dashed. 500 grams refilled from replacement to replacement. And vibration — there is such a thing. Reason the cushions the internal combustion engine. The fact that there is hydraulic support with space price, can die already in the 80-100 thousand, and few people will change the original, mainly counterparts and the cheaper the better, it's just a pillow after all... That's then, and are the vibration from the motor.
The author NDS full ponachitalis from the forums rumors, and all poured out here for all the crap that was able to filter. Reminded revazova also the "inches" also learning about the car and issues related to not knowing the car absolutely nothing. He did not know what he writes, 1.8 is just the opposite the most reliable trouble free engine, but in terms of makarora and vibrations they suffer just the same 2.0 and 2.3 engines. And put in the review ušatannyj instance where stupidly went without care, not an indicator!
And you would wash every day for pokupashek on their first call? I don't earn so much that would patinato to give every day
Seller ham and schmuck came to the car show this shit is that the buyer does not respect himself and began to watch... I am in such situations turn around and leave...
The fact of the matter is that he has 1.8 on the handle with conder and no hatch there, but the entire ceiling and stains in the trunk of the water in the recesses is collected and freezes in winter haven.
Nah, I'm from Mazda is not happy, but is not heard))
His version with Luke? Can the seals it makes sense to change?
I have no sunroof, maybe not know that Luke is always a source of problems and extra sounds over time...
Zloy39rus
I have Six 2.0 at 2011 38000 mileage, worn steering joints joints had already begun, though not critical. Hodowca no problems, but I didn't go in the car nor with the idea of a "break-20 and make a collapse like down", nor any other nonsense. Drive carefully, each hole brake. The only thing zacahuil — replaced the interior light on the diode.
Disadvantages of the car:
-weak brakes
-tupyaschemu rain sensor (in my opinion retarded)
-rear shelf creaking in the cold especially in the cold
too stiff suspension, respectively the reviews about frequent replacements ( don't change ANYTHING except filters and oil)
— in continuation of the previous paragraph — handling fuck no need for a car with acceleration "Lada Kalina" (10s)
-weak plastic door cards (snap buttons in Windows all already crunches if you accidentally get on her knee)
-poor lighting of the trunk
-absolutely stupid electronicially, at speeds too sensitive, really dangerous at speeds over 160km/h
-HIDEOUS GUISE. sometimes the feeling of its complete absence, especially in the arches. going through a puddle with the effect of holes in the floor — you hear every puddle.
-soft leatherette on the seats, which very quickly folds appear as in the photo above. Even my mileage in 38ткм, with my weight 72 kg and frequent building of "Feng Shui" in the cabin with the use of expensive equipment series TURTLE WAX for the skin, the situation on the edge of the driver's seat is absolutely the same.
-poor paintwork, thin, the paint easily slips stones at speeds of 100 km/h on the highway, and then have to paint the face every few years, and then proving to all potential buyers that it is not broken.
-and of course liquidity seeking in the zone of negative numbers. Similarly, it remains a mystery the pricing of these cars, jumping from 450 to 900 thousand for the de configuration of the same year.
If to summarize: a good car for those who the machine is not demanding at all. Especially if new. And for those who are low — do not care that the Mazda 6 or Lada Granta. At the time of purchase the cost was almost 30 000 Euro. Throwing all sorts of stupid options supposedly unnecessary in Russia, light sensor, tupyaschemu rain sensor etc. the real cost of cars could be reduced by 5 thousand, which would be better to invest in the same shumko arches (even at$ 20 per wheel) =)))), automatically folding and not buttons, mugs, and xenon in the database, electric seats and more high quality braid the helm, and certainly pontorezov (so be it even for a fee) MASLOWSKI BRANDED screen instead of the boring radio, for Chinese parody with rear view camera from uncle Lee Huan look scary. The machine is made by marketers for marketers. Great car for women, who do not care, "just red" =)
And the ceiling you running? And in the trunk, water in the recesses is not going? And that, my friend, it is such a problem, the car took a new salon.
I have Six 2.0 at 2011 38000 mileage, worn steering joints joints had already begun, though not critical. Hodowca no problems, but I didn't go in the car nor with the idea of a "break-20 and make a collapse like down", nor any other nonsense. Drive carefully, each hole brake. The only thing zacahuil — replaced the interior light on the diode.
Disadvantages of the car:
-weak brakes
-tupyaschemu rain sensor (in my opinion retarded)
-rear shelf creaking in the cold especially in the cold
too stiff suspension, respectively the reviews about frequent replacements ( don't change ANYTHING except filters and oil)
— in continuation of the previous paragraph — handling fuck no need for a car with acceleration "Lada Kalina" (10s)
-weak plastic door cards (snap buttons in Windows all already crunches if you accidentally get on her knee)
-poor lighting of the trunk
-absolutely stupid electronicially, at speeds too sensitive, really dangerous at speeds over 160km/h
-HIDEOUS GUISE. sometimes the feeling of its complete absence, especially in the arches. going through a puddle with the effect of holes in the floor — you hear every puddle.
-soft leatherette on the seats, which very quickly folds appear as in the photo above. Even my mileage in 38ткм, with my weight 72 kg and frequent building of "Feng Shui" in the cabin with the use of expensive equipment series TURTLE WAX for the skin, the situation on the edge of the driver's seat is absolutely the same.
-poor paintwork, thin, the paint easily slips stones at speeds of 100 km/h on the highway, and then have to paint the face every few years, and then proving to all potential buyers that it is not broken.
-and of course liquidity seeking in the zone of negative numbers. Similarly, it remains a mystery the pricing of these cars, jumping from 450 to 900 thousand for the de configuration of the same year.
If to summarize: a good car for those who the machine is not demanding at all. Especially if new. And for those who are low — do not care that the Mazda 6 or Lada Granta. At the time of purchase the cost was almost 30 000 Euro. Throwing all sorts of stupid options supposedly unnecessary in Russia, light sensor, tupyaschemu rain sensor etc. the real cost of cars could be reduced by 5 thousand, which would be better to invest in the same shumko arches (even at$ 20 per wheel) =)))), automatically folding and not buttons, mugs, and xenon in the database, electric seats and more high quality braid the helm, and certainly pontorezov (so be it even for a fee) MASLOWSKI BRANDED screen instead of the boring radio, for Chinese parody with rear view camera from uncle Lee Huan look scary. The machine is made by marketers for marketers. Great car for women, who do not care, "just red" =)
nPoH9
and about the new 6 will be post? Left old sores, and any new? as on road performance?
love the design, but to try is not possible.
Most of the ills cured as such without problem. For reviews of mill hadovka and reliable, but again runs rarely exceed 200 thousand. Time will show)))
Argue not see the point. Just think that with a GOOD quality oil to 15 thousand is the norm. And it is quite another matter where in the country to take a good oil exactly the same way as gasoline and diesel.
I have an average speed of 13-20 km/h depending on the time of year. What 15 thousand?))
xflex2011
A change in 7.5. It is reasonable. 15 Grand is insane
Depends on how you ride and if oil is not suragat all the rules.
holy-shotgun
Last мазда6 accurately Mondeo 4 pokaleniya, but it is interesting on which platform was built.
The latest from Mondeo or what is left.2nd generation there Yes I agree, but the 3rd is a different story.
EKX72
What is the machine reliable? First time listening to that machine more reliable.
Most reliable slot machines that they have 250 thousand and still runs, oil changed every 40 in it
Went 3 years on the three, too, nothing happened, but on the street no luck. And by the way my friend six is also nothing like that. But there's a problem and the dealer know about this
XS my second six on a stick, no I do not have friends and indeed have never heard of any problems. See exceptions and particularities are everywhere))
with a sharp transition from first to second — gnashing as basins. If you pause and switch more slowly, please. Eventually used, but not on the same machine, this was not. To disassemble the box there is no desire
EKX72
What is the machine reliable? First time listening to that machine more reliable.
Because in mechanics the weak point of the Mazda 2 is the synchronizers Roy transfer that Trejo that Shohi. But that's not all. Specifically I have this problem
Agree matter))) But in General I think it all depends on the host ie who and how operates.
Well what are we here to argue which is better. I've personally seen how the mechanics broke, clinea, synchronous was rassypalis, as the case has a hole due to the fact that inside something was off and frequent replacement couplers.What was previously written is personal opinion of each.
Majestic303
Visorkey the wheel is a concern for all Mazda, the skin quality is very low. 2 liters too not Fantan exactly the same problems that 1.8 l by khodovki agree hard. And Yes it is a consumable but rulitsya perfectly. If the mechanics of the box it can be a lot of trouble is the clutch and transmission itself, too, sometimes requires dissection and repair. So the machine will be more reliable, and if someone decides to change the oil and the aerial proper(maslovskoe) oil box will only please. Well, soundproofing is very bad my personal opinion.
What is the machine reliable? First time listening to that machine more reliable.
All motors eat not less 95ого of gasoline, but in Russia people believe that 92 will do, so please check what refueled the car, and this indirectly will tell You about the attitude.---I'm sorry, but where you have seen good fuel? and 95 ? 92 +additives may be? so where does the attitude?!
Not, well if to ride on the Lada Samara and the top three will be my life, just what these Parallels?
I talked about specific things you get paying 30,000 euros. The trio then was worth less than six. It is at the beginning of the increase in the price of the dollar and it was almost to catch up with the Sestak for the price.
And six pissed me off unreasonably high price for the incomprehensible quality.
Mazda generally likes very dust in the eyes and let's their shtick as I understand it. To make a car that looks like that will tear all perekrestka, and it's dynamics even previous himself not to break can (about the new six), or as in my case to make it look and breaks the price that you start to believe that modern Yapi know how to make cars. Just a wrapper without the candy.
About the paint thickness I have everywhere 65, maximum 70, the car from the factory in hand, not painted. I don't know where this "German thickness" from the author. Maybe dirty Meryl...
I read the blog. Interesting. Thank you.
Just wondering. If the selection of cars for the customer-probably for money, is there a service score car for sale? :) I wonder who else is interested? Or — selection — buyer? Or — put so to speak — in turn on bosonoga buyer? Just curious — is there such a topic? Thank you.
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that I was not myself :). Just wondering.