How to choose b/Ford Scorpio
Greetings to all!
The title contains a tautology, because the new Scorpio You about 16 as not buy. Your purchase many will consider hogwash, and some will even issue a certificate only in absentia, but if You're still not scared, go ahead to choose!) Written with the General for all used cars.
Thus, the total moments about any Scorpio.
Body.
There was only the Sierra that came out of the damp garage and washed paintwork WD-40 on the rusty spots. Rotten everything was.
Have to watch absolutely everything and the pit/the lift.
Rotten can be everything spars (it is necessary not only to look but to touch — a friend bought a car with spar to form a whole, but in fact filled with foam, which flew a year later, leaving a hole).
Rotten may be the bottom: "favorite" spots of corrosion under the driver's feet and next to the rapids. To lift the carpet need. It is sufficient to Unscrew the plastic side Phillips screwdriver.
Sometimes the back glasses are in the trash: do you need a screwdriver and the patience of the plastic is thrown off easily, and set back not very.
The car's body if inside went to rust themselves stand (the glass doors). Seen in exfoliated paint. No, you can go, even to restore will be OK, but safety will be the level of Japanese cuts.
But that is really not worth special attention is the rear arches and sills. Yes, rotting away, Yes, okay — half a car for them to disassemble and rot but they are more the appearance is affected. And the codes for such kits Klokkerholm:
Inner rear arches : 2552541 and 2552542
Rear arches : 2552581 and 2552582
Sill : 2552011 and 2552012
Amplifiers of thresholds : 2552071 and 2552072
No, of course you can buy a car with a normal, but I think the whole bottom and stands will be more important.
Salon
Buy it normal. Good hard to find, and killed by hooligans — that's what gets to showdown.
Engine
Buy anything but banging, with no bubbles in the coolant reservoir and emulsion krischke oil fill neck, preferably with a relatively smooth compression. Masroor often caps and oil leaks on the block, but even if in the end rings while the pistons are smooth and fuel consumption happy — you can not worry. The engines are not very expensive ( max$ 1000 for 2.9 Cosworth and 5-15000 rubles for 2.0 OHC).
The exhaust is rotten by default.
Running
All repaired, but if the rear beam is rotten and bent on Scorpio I, it is only for a replacement from lupato, if you don't want to see house of wheels. By the way, the house is suspect to the beam, however, is not always her fault.
Reducer of the rear — Yes, sometimes starts to buzz, but the period of his life is completely random. Can cover 10 000km and after annealing to catch the wedge, and maybe 100 000km and go further making the hum) Optional put a LSD — it is easier to drive on back roads and snow, and even easier sideways)
Nivomat or automatically adjustable stiffness suspension; it's expensive — you need a rack. Most likely, if automatic or universal — Nivomat there (the entire mechanism of paging), but there are the usual stands.
4x4 Or all-wheel drive — this is really rare. Although this is a permanent full with the ratio 1/3 to the front wheels and 2/3 on the rear.
Electrician
In Scorpio it is not very difficult, important for the movement of the blocks do not deny is usually not worth more than 2000P. But if You don't have a friend electrician — beware.
In General, everything is simple, the main problem is the body. But we're not the cart choose?) Therefore, deepen and examine each generation separately.
Scorpio I 1985-1991
Sedan appeared in 89-90. But this is likely Cosworth 91, and drives native, and not martovskie
There are 3 basic complete set (in Europe): CL, GL, GHIA.
CL — the empty drum without ESP and AWS. Easily identified by the photo:
CL — power Windows was optional. There is no armrest and beard.
GL/Ghia - has a beard and armrest
With other generations I is more difficult to assess, but most likely is determined by the tank of antifreeze — if the sensor in it, so not CL.
If Your plans do not include serious deciduate equipment — CL go. And if you want ESP in a circle and the like — either the farm wiring or wiring from GL/GHIA. GL GHIA is quite easily done from CL only CL is easily done.
Safety is also calculated as the area of the blanking punch and creasing there, but nothing more.
Engines petrol:
OHC 1.8, 2.0.
OHC injector with flowmeter
The ancient motor, and lived in the car until 1989.
Was like a carb and an injector. The conversion in the injector activity feasible, but ungrateful.
1.8 Generally put on very poor equipment (probably about 2 years total) and it is better to throw it out.
Pros:
engine reliable and cheap
-kapitalka one of the cheap
-can turbulate
Cons:
-capital is usually necessary
-flow problem: you need either to fix or to look normal b/u (uncommon), or to change the brain. However, there was OHC with the MAP, and probably no flow meters
Bracket air conditioning a rarity, either make a bracket or do the retrofit of R12 (or search for R12)
Cologne V6 2.4, 2.8, 2.9
Without flow, a great option!
Indestructible engines, but capital — better not. Flow only 2.8, 2.4, and 2.9 weak (2.9 strangled by the firmware). Any problem with the engine will increase fuel consumption and no more. Even knocking he will go.
Pros:
-Indestructible engine: knocking and for a very long time going to a complete loss of compression
-The most powerful in the range (2.9, except for the Cosworth) and potential (tuning Megasquirt ms2 brain can squeeze much more power out of the motor)
-There are versions without flow
Cons:
-Any problem with the motor will show itself by increased fuel consumption and/or oil.
-You can get to the motor flow dead flow
-Market is usually the camshaft: if after annealing, the motor is not pounding — then all is right with the motor, and if not, the capital You'll want is expensive, the motor is cheaper to buy after the releasing current.
Cosworth 29 BOA
BOA in the transition
Favorite motor necrophagous: shoved in Taunus, Granada, Sierra, transit and God knows where else).
Pros:
-Cosworth. Fast and reliable, but compared to YB 2.0 T not a Cosworth at all, and sometimes it covertly for Cosworth is not considered.
-The most powerful in the line (195 HP) and perhaps the potential is there, no one bother in the web — enough for the eyes so.
-A4LDe automatic — A4LD is the same, but with electronic control. You can swapnote the mechanics from V6.
-The contactless ignition EDIS — 6
Cons:
-With the same set of forces with a YB (cosworth 2.0) absolutely vegetable motor
-Automatic (but can be swapnote handle that very often do)
At least your TPS
-Kapitalka of course expensive, but the problem is to get her parts. Most likely You will need to go on Ebay to atypicality oblique.
DOHC 2.0
The enemy of archaic 70-80s
How much negativity was expressed towards the motor from the lovers of the archaic.
But, open to the author, for example, or Craigslist and see that somehow in the category 2.0 DOHC(89-94) is much larger than OHC(85-89). The motor in comparison with other contemporary dinosaurs. I will not explain, and the story will spread)
Pros:
-The dynamics. The engine itself is the fruit theme V6 DOHC vs DOHC vs OHC.
-Lack of meter.
Is the most quiet among the rest.
-In the case of faults the fuel consumption is limited to a maximum of 17 litres but grows to infinity.
-Does not need a complete overhaul. Most often, for replacement go: gasket, seals, lifters and oil pump.
Cons:
Aluminum cylinder head. Overheating the engine suffers, but overheating overheating strife. In the worst case (fans archaism admit such) will lead or cylinder head will crack.
-The radiator fans shitty site. Often one fan turns sour, as the engine is not on operating temperature of the second pair of sensor and plug the connector to the fan is near the mouth of the washer. Fill in the eyeballs and drove like a kid cracker the chip will fill in the washer :/
-VV is a good spark and wires.
-Leaks oil by the engine. Have pravili in the second generation. Not critical, but pleasant enough.
The diesel engines.
Disgusting Ford approached them. Information on them a little, and the type of engine depends on many things.
But in these years You should not worry about the diesel — it will be "simple, long lasting and does not require intervention" diesel from Peugeot. Minus one for slow) Put a 2.5 aspirated and turbo.
Should be a good diesel from Peugeot.
About engines talk, what to expect from the box?
MT-75, upper N lower. Back N above left, from MT through the ring in the bottom right.
Type 9 (N)
+You can iterate over
+No backlash
Cheap
-A wedge it on 4th gear sometimes
-Hard to find sometimes
Put on V6 and OHC.
MT-75
She is unkillable (almost — you can kill the synchronizers and drive like a pelvis).
+Quieter, fits easier, probably better to disclose because of gear ratios possible motors (OHC with MT was kind of bad on the Sierra).
Cheap
+Relatively easy to find (it seems began to put them everywhere since 1989 with the advent DOHC)
-Repairing it is pointless
-The yoke if for front-wheel drive has a nasty property — fracture or releasing traction. Leads to that to change gear You can't — the lever is loose
-The backlash and the switching accuracy is sometimes like a pencil in a jar.
Automatic A4LD
A4LD
Either prior to 1989 or 1991, then management made an electronic
+Vacuum control.
+Reliable old machine, if the oil to keep as a reliable old machine.
-Vacuum control — information on how to connect this box is extremely small and how it works — too figs you will understand (whether it is the valve in the podkapotka, whether on the box of the modulator). But it works, since so little information
A4LDe
Came to replace the A4LD
+Electronic controls — with connectivity issues do not arise.
+The rest — the same A4LD
-Electronic control. The carb does not supply, you need a EEC IV automatic or a clear understanding of how zakljuciti without the ECU.
Now on to the specific sores:
-Luke and Electrolux. Bad move Luke causes inadequate operation electrolyte. Killed the car and Luke is still flowing.
Until 1989, the upper dashboard and door cards do not stand up to sunlight and heat, answering cracks. Then the problem fixed.
-In connection with a dark past can sometimes rot the engine or ladder braid, but this is rare.
-Until 1989, audiopreparation was on the aluminum wires. Yes, and aluminum is basically used in the wiring of the doors.
-Odometer can stand on the spot. The problem is the gear. How to disassemble to disassemble a bunch of toy cars to poinit one, but present on the drive and search for "gear repair odometer scorpio", the first in this search for example.
-Block of AWS (additional light-signalling devices) suffers from poor soldering and dead capacitors.
Air conditioning is more dead and worked on R12, which are hard to find and it is necessary to put the system with R134a or retrofit to do or looking for R12 or its analogues.
-The wiper switch in 1989 for the hatchback is based on cost. Delamination of the contact Board with further circuit is provided (or die back of the washer, or the whole switch). With the sedans there is no problem, there is a cost do not use like.
Switch elektroseti since 1991, built on a printed circuit Board. The old switches on the copper contacts with more than maintainable.
Time and fatties lead to: a) break of foam on the side (thigh back metal frame, not very well done seat) b) the breach of the lower frame of the seat cushion (and it was on my from pedregosa).
Yet there is often poor welding from the lift seat and you can ride in the rocking chair for some time.
-Hood with logo (up to 1989) have on Board a bad bonnet and some bonnet on the road reveals and kills the windshield.
-The latch of the hood tends to fall off on bumps — it should be fixed by the clamp.
-The mechanism of the ashtray on the GL and Ghia breaks down and it is unclear how it is repaired. The ashtray is always open
House the rear wheels due to bent I-beam (cement were taken), or sagging springs.
+-Error diagnosis with the led or FDS-2000
So it is necessary to fix a cable hood.
Merkur Scorpio (1988-1989)
+Significantly strengthened body compared to the Europeans
+Fully furnished with climate-control and a gun (there was also a version of Turing on the handle — a little who knows)
-Parts are not all compatible with the Europeans: the tank is increased, the tailgate and the headlights other at least. But incompatibility is not critical.
-Climate control. Even the Americans are getting rid of it and resell the foolish Europeans, who unable to revive him.
In General, the little things) it's Not worth the panic, the average owner and don't know it all. Well, the fact that other cars sores no less — that's for sure)
Scorpio 1992-1994
Finally universal!
In engines in 1993 there is a new Italian diesel VM. Disgusting engine b/y for reviews. It is better not to take or to throw away).
Wiring is routed partially: Central lock is operated by minus, the chips was replaced, and the colors of the wires looks like it's (tail lights and ESP).
Interior and exterior is altered.
The problems of the old generation left (but only those where the year is not indicated), new added.
-Ford began to save money on wiring, but the problems it has led to second generation
The fuses went in the wrong place under the hood. The root of all evil electrical problems lies in clogged drainage podrabotki and oxidized the fuse blocks. To electropolish to forget by 3 or more, enough blocks to be removed, cleaned of oxides, to be protected from oxides and to return to the place with clean drainage.
In the 1993-1994 year, in the Ford brochures boasted that scorpio got a body amplifiers, in particular amplifiers, doors and air bags.
In the same period may have produced cars for the R12 and R134a.
In General, transition is good, if you clean the blocks and by living 1993-1994. But to get into an accident it is not necessary — the hood, headlights, grille (radiator and from the leaves) the other, and given 2-3 years of issue of the parts not so much.
Scorpio II 1994-1998(9)
Technically the most perfect Scorpio. Externally — controversial. Internally good.
The body is reinforced everywhere)
Rear suspension is different: the beam is thicker, the shock absorbers are shorter.
The front suspension is different.
All this has a positive impact on the driveability.
EEC V allows you to run diagnostics on OBD II, has Immobiliser and better EEC IV.
Ignition system contactless EDIS.
From the point of view of security:
-The body is strengthened
-New ABS Teves Mk IV
-TCS or the traction control came
-Airbags in front, with 1998 still and side
-Rear view mirror panoramic
Comfort:
-Electric automatic transmission A4LD
-The seats are a little different feel
-Seat and mirror could have a memory (3 different positions)
-Interior mirror with automatic anti-dazzle
-Clutch hydraulic
-Climate control dual-zone
But it was a barrel of honey, now a barrel of tar.
Restayl 1998 was controversial and complicate the situation with the body s/h and already complex. But as for me, restayl'd be happy.
The engines are all very controversial. Which was good, it made it worse.
Is it possible to make the plastic manifold is good? The answer is Yes, Mondeo, Scorpio is not.
DOHC was 2.3, 2.0 (8 and 16 valves). The exhaust manifold is made worse in 2.0.
The intake on the DOHC — made of plastic and tied to the cover of the thermostat. Crack, draws air and other problems solved once and for all manifold and the thermostat cover with the first Scorpion.
2.3 is more complicated flywheel with damper.
2.9 Seems to have left for EEC IV (up to 96 if you believe the schemes).
The existential can meet diesel from Peugeot, but elcats only the problematic VM.
VM. The enemy archaic as DOHC or extremely problematic dengosos — one more question.
Cosworth pumped up to 205-207 forces, but gained EEC V and immobilizer. This bunch did BOB unattractive for the swap.
BOB
And of course, thanks to the environmentalists we received the lambda after the catalyst, which complicates the removal process of the catalyst.
The suspension itself has become more expensive.
ABS may be good, but on the damped brake motor to be 2 normal deceleration that is not very good when towing. There is no hydraulic unit, which would be pumped up until the battery alive.
Electrician.
Just above I wrote that Ford was to save on transaction. But the Scorpio II krolowa led to popadalovo. Popadalovo sucrolose to spar spit motor and spit. The insulation literally crumbles. But peremenovka with new wires helps once and for all to save the owner from jamb. Cleaning fuse blocks became less frequent occupation. Problems with the odometer is no longer)
However, additional problem units, unit climate control for example of these — sometimes the firmware itself and flies propicy of perepiski will not help.
Time to bring complete results:
-Scorpio is better not to take in empty drum (only understood)
-Scorpio I direktnoj the most common parts and cheap of course
-I technically Scorpio 1993-1994 (excluding electricians) the Scorpion (and even Merkur)
-Scorpio without meters will have less problems with rhodomela)
-Scorpio II is technically the best Scorpion in principle
-The cheapest Scorpio I (s/h and repair), smooth and common Scorpion
The VM diesel is better not to take
-The price of the suspension Scorpio II unpleasantly surprised by the price
-Compatible parts Scorpio II Scorpio I is not very good, but between the first generations is wonderful — after an accident with frontal impact can Scorpio and the first person to make the transition.
Should we be afraid to take Scorpio? What can I say, I say "not knowing the Ford not poke your nose into the water." So Wade deeper into Scorpio II — ignorance can be serviced as Mercedes E-class price. Otherwise, in all senses cheap right now and nice cars that are able to deliver driving pleasure, despite his age. And on EEC IV rod as tanks: the CKP sensor and the coolant sensor is dead will not start the car)
Good luck in your choice and thank you for your attention.
Read what you want, not what is written, right?)
4. 3, they themselves are singled out: the vacuum or the solenoid on the 4 (A4LD and A4LDe). About how much are they interchangeable with A4LDE (which perhaps even a marketing name) to judge were not taken. Well, in this write about choice as if it wasn't thoroughly accurate, which was discovered a little after recording.
5. I don't really like to engage in dialogue with people who are everything in this world is measured and normalized relative to your 5th point. Don't believe in 17 liters 92 on a DOHC? Do not believe on, I had no leaks.
4. Link ...so as not to offend the author...not fully relevant. To avoid any further dispute, for me the authority either of. manual or at least a book level of Haynes, and all sorts of pamphlets on the forums. And once again, these boxes ON the SKORPIO was 2 species. In the first generation, 4-I have been involved with either the vacuum modulator or solenoid. And electronic the second (except motor is a 2.9 12v, Pro diesel will not say anything, because none of the machines are live not seen, moreover he burned a long time the idea to combine diesel (although Peugeot) with it).
Structurally, they are quite different, if the box with the modulator into a box, where the 4th solenoid is activated, it is between the boxes to lupato on it (in addition to the above exceptions) interchangeable only parts. The same applies to boxes of Cosworth, they are VOA and the second world war differ in the same way as on other machines generations, showing their enhanced version, provided for cooling the external radiator. Which, by the way, IMHO, should payment not oblique.
5. DOHC?))) Except that if it will flow somewhere. Even flow)))))
4. Where?) So, Yes, brochure nonsense of course and links to nonsense.
5. No. And flow measuring devices motors 30 and eat can.
4. Read. Complete nonsense. I think it is better to read Haynes. Or googling on the subject of boxes R44E.
5. Record. Win))) It is you definitely never have emerged, among other things?)))))
6. For example, because compliance is weak b & b RV. On DOHC lubrication made it much better, seen worn RV with DOHC only as a result of using really bad oil, or problems with its filtration, and only once. to Chu again, this does NOT APPLY. The resource is OK 350K+-50. And probably in less.
Of course, another worth mentioning problem is the balance shafts 2.3. And the problem is the intake manifold for it too, not a 2.0.
4. Read the same record. e and E is different yeah)
5. The result of the measurements, a full tank, mileage 100 km, the Gulf of calculation.
6. However, the upgrade was. But I'm not a mechanic and I can not argue about what is the difference between them, which is. But in practice DOHCев longer, I wonder why, because OHC significantly older. So whoever wrote that about Dogz certainly saw that in Doha for some reason a lot of replacements does not require (or in connection with the half-measures), when at the same time AHC capital.
3. The question is, what cars in Europe is almost gone. He before last year, while in Poland and Germany went on a couple of sites where the such sell — people said that there is no almost, very rare to come across. In Poland on the meal saying the same.
4. Not true, without EEC go only vacuum. And even easier Google photo boxes inside or whales for their repair, will become clearer. Or ask the beggars with animals.
5. Still, the figure is surprising. This testimony of BK, or the result of measurements?
6. The life of plastic, but the following decides the oil and temperature, at least. Including overheating in history. According to ANY normal mechanic, if a part needs replacement — it needs to be changed. And half measures of the type vpihivaniya new rings in the pistons with broken grooves and apply this to the block oval cylinders — IMHO, nonsense. I can understand (generally, it happens with diesel engines) when the piston is alive, sleeve worn. Not to mention the fact that if hones does not (and usually not), then meaning without boring and honigova at all.
About OHC and DOHC. The second is the result of modernization of the first. the fact that the first 6 types of blocks (165,185,200,202,205 with minor varieties,207) says nothing, because their basic parameters (dimensions) are the same, the difference in the channels, place under the knock sensor, the drive timer and More., if you're interested, www.soyleyman.ru or in Haynes.
2. Maybe so. Average fine, but at the time was a comparison table with all DELAMI. And not affected I Mondeo)
3. The year is not an indicator? Maybe so, if influenced by territorial characteristics. I am sure that Peter transition all right, MSC is easier at first to find (disassembly I rarely contact cars 10K more expensive, sometimes 20 charge, but no more, and the transit from Europe, it seems Peter established)
4. A4LDE then www.drive2.ru/l/8097239/ . Rooms may be others, but the detail is essentially the same. But let's just say, A4LDE without EECV will not go, and the rest can be sapati anything.
5. I ate oysters was 17, in traffic jams especially were not. Replaced this set and was fine, more such figures are not seen.
6. It was about that I wouldn't hard-code DOHC in line with OHC, on the basis of similarity of the blocks. On OHC even went a few different blocks, one of which is very much like a Coswoth YB but it is not so easy. In fact, I very rarely see on sale (like cars and engines) OHC and DOHC that's a hell of a lot.
According to practice faq.ford77 in dohc have less change in motor and rarely when it is necessary to rastajimosti and Gilsonite. Gaskets, caps, rings, compensator and oil pump — here's where to go with dohc. Well, not every overheating kills the cylinder head.
The life of plastic decide just the same hands and tools. And so — all ages. Only 2.8 does not flow, if the curves hands do not apply. So what, so tohtsu to impute the disease or age to write off? Then as if almost all run in oil.
1. The weekend will finish Bo is there too many letters.
2. Pipelin wrote a lot of things, and then he himself changed opinion — example — relative to the same DOHC. Ekzist is not quite figure, I take the average value, Exist, Avtoklad, Olimpia car, and multiple local offices.
3. It is not an indicator, because now the deliverers of the first analysis do not carry the recent search of a good bonnet and wing on first ended restayl muzzle. Few of them already. Transition NOW, at least in Ukraine showdown anymore.
4. I repeat. A4LDe box with lupato. The rest are just A4LD. Hydraulic unit fundamentally different, the case of the other (the middle part). GT is similar, but the rooms other.
5. With the same set of+reputa head more than 13 in any way. While in Moscow traffic jams, more when standing than going, in principle, willing to believe. But there on the proper to achieve this probably can.
6. It's not about installing the head, except that instead of 8-valve DOHC to put on 16. With a subsequent swap of brains and wiring. It is geometrically identical blocks, the distribution of loads to the Chu too. So the resource they have, though, is different, but not much, given their age suggests that ANY need to repair, and replacement of elements of the Chu and boring or gilzovka unit. Once again about FAQ. FORD77.RU resource decent, but nothing more. And it is worth remembering that most of the articles on it were written 10 years ago or more. About the leak — by 2.4 and 2.9 are treated lids from 2.8. Once and for all. On Cosworth harder. On the DOHC there is a problem of aging plastic and which would not have hands, they do not attempt to solve in addition to as a substitute. And a little lupato, we have the whole city about 5 in the analysis of the power. 3 of them exactly with the second world war.
7. If you list all the book to get. It was about major.
P. S. the purpose of the comment is not to insult the article, and to add, moreover, some things are really controversial. And in a dispute, as you know, the truth is born, so happy to accept reasoned comments.
1. Still waiting for records about their characteristics)
2. In comparison with the first generation there is a difference. At a time when Papilon engaged in the Scorpio was more manduka faq.ford77.ru/choice/sc95vsmon2.htm. It is now possible for the sake of interest to compare ekzist.
3. Depends on where and statistically they will be less. 85-91 — 5-6 years of production, 92-94 2 years in fact (in 94 out скорп2).
4. For automatic transmission later will finish. They were there at 3 types: A4LD — vacuum almost everything. A4LDe — enable the 4th brain, electronic . A4LDE — electronics very much, but I don't think she's just absolutely nothing to do with the A4LD does not have otherwise.
5. 92 gasoline, a dead lambda, is a dead TPS. A standard set.
6. Sorts of crap saw. Transition and second generation - two different varieties. However like wrote exactly why. About kapitalku - something I have not heard that on the block ohc put the head from a dohc. In practice, it is now more DOHC's into the sale and about the same resource do not agree. On the completeness of capitali was written on faq.ford77.ru but with the move record is not found, but the essence was this.
And cap and the leak is the disease of all old motors. On the v6 they from time to time (laying dead) and curve hands (and bent), the dohc — cracks, curved hands and an unwillingness/inability to buy new or to alter lupato. And who in the old car care of an oil leak, not on the pavement and on the flow from the replacement to the replacement is not affected?)
7. Sores Vaski all do not care — go to death of the motor with them. Good Vaska a great motor, but more often the dying Vaska found: noisy, eats, but somehow rushing. If V6 is open, you can even more call problems.
Not agree with the author on several points:
1. Regarding the VM diesel. Have personal opt and Peugeot and VM, Yes Peugeot indestructible, but VM is no worse than other average motors. And somehow they blamed those who did not have them in the main. Coincidence? I don't think (C)
2.Prices on the FRONT suspension of the 2nd is not more expensive than at the level of the Mondeo 1-2.
3.The transition is not much less than the price of kuzovnyh for the first (especially the hood) is now even higher.
4. Regarding the automatic transmission: Before the N9 (DOHC) transmission 4-I have been involved with the vacuum modulator, then electrically. In fact, it is the same box, modify one another in 30 minutes at a leisurely pace)) But on the "Lopata", except the motor is a 2.9 12v is already FULLY electric box, at first you can only deliver with the full swap (myself at that ride). Information on the operation and repair of the insane, should want to look. The box itself not the sample of reliability, but if you follow it and not to get involved with flying, nothing. It is strongly recommended installing auxiliary radiator (as in Cosworth). Yes, about Coxworthy: the first (VOA) would be put in same box as others with the inclusion of the 4-th electrically, only reinforced. On the second (WWII) again enhanced with fully electronic control. She (in the normal and the enhanced version is called the A4LDe.
5. About DOHC: I wonder what to do with him, he ate 17 gallons?! Ride 1st gear?). Of sores author did not mention the plastic cover (valve and circuits). And that means not requires a complete capitali? Block there is essentially the same as the OHC and the resource is +- the same. From advantages — has a very unpleasant, imho age-related ailments OHC — loss valve seats (a ; n?" came up in a cast iron head removable seats — a mystery of the ages))) ).
6. About the wiring — it is equally crappy on the 92-94 and the 2nd to restayl. Fray. Especially in Wishkah.
7. About these same Vaski. Except for disgusting work, noise, vibrations and disturbances of weight, they are also sore in the form of the impossibility of conducting some operations (for example, the fixation pins of the headers) without removing the engine or cylinder head. Also, the versions of the ha when they die, you have to remove the heads to replace them. Well, another driving time — they have a cart moment on bottoms, but twist them almost pointless, except for the rumble and the roar, nothing will happen.
P. S. Sorry for many letters, all of the above based on personal experience with these machines. Overall imho one of the best fords in history...
would now the new Scorpio — the prices would not have them. And so... alas, twenty-five years for the machine periuterine face because of the iron Cologne, but given the margin of safety machines that could for a long time operated in a state where a thread of lohan, even before the landfill wouldn't make it in the body of the truck, plus the game mechanics-rhinos...
In General, alas, unfortunately to find now living Skorpio first generation belongs to the category of unscientific fantasy...
In this and the opposite side of the way.
Because of the fact that Ashot will not fix it, and even uncle Bob the neighbor does not know what it is — these machines are bypassed. And services too.
Therefore, if the machine and into pioneer or Ashot, it will go into the analysis with a negative opinion to everyone.
But the owners left themselves quite good at killing these machines, whining and in General what to speak, if their mass dictates that buying the original is "fu" and kolhozah "this is reasonable".
And with the pots often fell on the head of someone's inheritance. And it will either sell or put the price tag than the market average. And a good car will go quick.
grxd
Actually not really.
Dead rotten Taz fix anyone for a penny. And the mass media.
And these machines can easily be in the light of day... Well, just as dead and rotten (worth lifting the carpet to look at the lift). But even if was not, then the repair is much more difficult and more expensive. But it goes without repair for longer.
The problem is that many are not willing to understand on their own in a repair. And if riquleme/niladari a ride (more archaic), macrofagami not always.
I never found more or less live PELVIS. Initially wanted to take the 2141, but they're just gone, all gone. The pots are either killed by the pioneers or Ashot.
And to the question of "buy or 2109 14/15" I get the attack unprovoked aggression.
Well, the fact of the matter is that those who have problems periodically and deducted %). For them the information is not exhaustive. And the quality of spare parts — also manage to take crappy analogs, and not to get out of repairs.
The new creditpolicy now equipped with better. But not only that.
People take the car to drive normally.
Creditopolis new is the best solution to drive and anything about the car not know (well, close eyes on shortcomings, they are there too).
A little cheaper and used in excellent condition with new but cheaper. And the more used and cheaper the more chances to get into the car. But it is massive.
The bottom of the b/a on the brink of a rarity — this is where the masters no arrangements nobody really knows and it is likely you can travel for many years and not get into a scoring machine for schools.
But if suddenly to repair or knock in the head to bring to the ideal... Then there will be only a waste of money, negativity and whining while the car does not merge or is not allowed into the analysis.
And if VAZ can help, without the desire to understand how it works and what the consequences might be if any action with the machine — it will be the worst choice. But it's okay if there are hands, head and Google no one get banned.
Often still whining and obhaivat engineering solutions.
Given the absolute gonocoxite VAZ spare parts and the rapid development of online shops (in my town of about 6) and the emergence of comprehensive information on repair, technical and ergonomic misery Wazowski products, special problems do not see. Of course, if you have a little budget and direct the hands.
The other option is a new creditpolicy equipment worse 30 years CL.
The experience of owning and renovating two Jaguars makes an infernal laugh, to treat the issue "is difficult to find spare parts for Ford"))
Actually not really.
Dead rotten Taz fix anyone for a penny. And the mass media.
And these machines can easily be in the light of day... Well, just as dead and rotten (worth lifting the carpet to look at the lift). But even if was not, then the repair is much more difficult and more expensive. But it goes without repair for longer.
The problem is that many are not willing to understand on their own in a repair. And if riquleme/niladari a ride (more archaic), macrofagami not always.
Given that for the same money you can buy only the dead rotten PELVIS/vases, even 10 years younger, the choice of necropotence obvious.
Once I went to repost again...
Should make an amendment on 2019.
Fewer machines.
Good ride still and change is not in a hurry (less economic opportunities for many, but it's not about that).
So you expect the average piece of junk on which you can ride or drown in the nearby pond.
And may be for example lupato Scorpio, which is altered qualitatively and wiring followed. And that will drive 5 years without intervention.
And you can buy aesthetically disgusting and sometimes problematic piece of junk for the price smartphone which will go.
And I think that the way to homologation and the construction of an ideal is closed. New genuine parts will be from ebay after a long search. And with aftermarket parts it is better not to repair the engines.
Paying expensive, you will not necessarily get the ideal machine which tomorrow will not rise suddenly.
Paying a scrap car that you drive for a long time without serious intervention.
But in any case, in case of problems with the machine you will have to count on yourself first and maybe learn in the process of taking appropriate decisions (2 extremes to fix all new parts are of questionable quality and do not get out of capucci, or bring in the ideal of what not to bring to the ideal).
And Yes, this is andtimer that attention will get more on the road from the former owners than from "experts — connoisseurs of antiquity".
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Often you can expect problems described in the article. But given the age and typical owners — expect anything.
Whether you need it all to you — decide, but have no illusions.
I was on a three-year Octavia the radio on the original. When pulled from the torpedo the radio from the previous owner, was in shock. And so everywhere. And this is a one owner and almost new car...
Not all ends. Much skarpowa then stuck in transit. Plus nerezinovoy warehouses and packers also dabble in original numbers filed. So not such a problem. Just a detail in the worst case lie on Ebay, but not in the near automake.
>To cut off the original connectors?
Very often. And what to do, where to take them? Ford original connectors are space, and the parser is usually the wiring pass into the metal. In General, there is benishoga in a particular region. Not everyone will put in place of burned-out chips to fans rotorcrafts for 100 bucks.
>Kolhozah crooked hands the alarm?
It's all relative. Curvature hands too. Well, simple — diagrams, but you hold and the work is not salary. So the inevitable.
>Throw the exposed wires?
In lupato, they lose the isolation. From time to time. Sometimes it's the consequences of an accident, sometimes something else. Common one — not always intentionally.
>Use a ton spackle and cold weld (the cost of a new threshold) instead of passing it? About such "netlenki" as foam
Until you try you'll never know which is cheaper and easier to give in for repair. And the foam soak the dirt really sells cars with holes. Integrates with the environment.
>oil in the motor M8 is polysynthetic
The motor can be shed of anything. The question is how archaic it is and whether it is normal to change a fill. Say and DOHC you can fill M8, but change less 5000 km and nafig it is surrendered, if the motor is rattling around as a super-duper thinner than full synth with friction modifiers? Not so clear here.
>Chinese plastic ties instead of steel clamps in the cooling system
Temporary, could become permanent. And will generally keep, if there is a "mushroom" on the receiving side. But not for very long. Ties don't like temperatures that crack and burst. In chairs for example a metal ring of a change to tie the nylon and everything is OK for a very long time.
The issue is also the price of the machine. On fords it is low. From BMW — they're not getting sold on Craigslist/author. That gets there often trash and sometimes someone's garage finds (but very rarely).
A contingent of owners — and repair. And if for ~15 years of Internet and aksitov no one wanted to clean up the farm dictated by the conditions — then it will continue. A contingent of owners and nothing to do.
Original ends after 5-7 years the production end of the model. The problem arises where to find quality analogue.
In any car you can find absolutely stupid farm, and in the most unexpected places.
Cut off original connectors? Kolhozah crooked hands the alarm? To leave exposed wires? Use a ton spackle and cold weld (the cost of a new threshold) instead of passing it? About such "netlenki" as polyurethane foam, oil in the motor M8 is polysynthetic and other Chinese plastic ties instead of steel clamps in the cooling system, I say nothing...
classroom article
for ourselves yesterday Scorpio restayl 92 with 2литровых DOHC
prepared after examining avito on the availability of spare parts.
to become truthful, reinforced my belief in the correctness and awareness of choice.
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but the strange complete set
condos(disabled)
power steering, power Windows front, sunroof electric, ztd and sameblock