What people are buying on the secondary market
Hi!
Some machines do not fall into the blog for various reasons. Sometimes, I just don't know what to write about anything interesting. Sometimes customers are requested not to publish their car. There are other reasons, there are no normal photos, for example, that watched the car together with the customer, so it was not until photos. In General, it depends. But, it is not a single month that was not ordered by the Koreans. For example, Kia Led, so in General, two or three monthly for this car. And, I have a real feeling that all the good Seeds over:) just Kidding, of course, just remember the days when good LEDs can be found for a couple of days, but now it does not work. So why are people so willing to buy these Koreans? Do not pretend to the role of the analyst in this matter, I will simply give some examples and tell what you ask clients and why.
An example of the first. Needed person the first machine. Got WOO, a lot of money to spend didn't see the point, that needed a car to learn to drive. Something inexpensive, reliable, in good condition. Stick shift with air conditioning. The rest does not matter, the budget 350тр. Well, actually, the customer opted for the Kia Rio.
Full sizeHere's a car I found quite quickly, literally within two or three days, I do not remember. 2011, 1.4, manual, first owner, mileage 75T km Bonus to the car was the second set of tires. The car was repainted the bonnet and right wing, without fillers, in the shade of color was no different from the factory paint. The whole "nutriance" was intact, original lights, and so on. In General, the "shoals" on the body was, but nothing critical, a couple of scratches on the bumpers, some chipping. At the price I bargained the car gave 320тр. (I do not remember already) is All you need to do after purchase is to do THAT with the replacement of PTK, the drive belt and the condition of the timing belt.
Full sizeSalon here, as you can see, no frills, but everything you need is there. Well, what to expect from Rio-nonsense, and no one was going. However, this car is not bought. Why, I did not understand. As it is not very adequately behaved a customer, I won't anything bad to write about him, I just wished him good luck in further search of the car, but without me.
An example of the second. The customer chose the car for my mom, budget 350тр, it was important to find a machine at at. Wishes — Hyundai Getz. In General, the machine is very good, sometimes change the timing belt and consumables, which, incidentally, is very cheap on it and ride. However, there is a small problem with these Gettemy. They are almost all dead. The fact is that very often they are bought as a first car, to the same girl. And sell them some outbid runs the machines 2008-2009 40-50 km in the ads. In short, to find a worthy Goetz is not so easy, even if more expensive.
Full sizeHere's a car I found. 330тр, 2009 second hand. Surprising even to me was that he actually had no colors. Of course, had flaws, but they were not critical for the client:
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Full sizeA bonus was the second set of winter wheels on the stampings. After purchase it was necessary to do THAT with the replacement of the timing belt and a few light bulbs in the lamps.
An example of the third. Kia Led. The order was clear, like. 2011, mileage up to 100k km, servicebook, first owner. A couple of recoloured items, if done well, it is not critical. Owner at 1-2 PTS. On picking, preferably with the climate, the budget 500тр +/- 20tr. The customer was looking for a car for his son, and because of this almost any problems. Explain. After about a week after I took the order, I was contacted by his son. He wanted the car as soon as possible, and the appropriate Sid is not. And flew me links. A lot of references to different machines. Mainly on various sign up options. But who have patience, those thanked fate. I always explain to clients that by the time the search can take a long time, there's no telling. Sometimes it's a day or two, and sometimes more than a month. So, the option to purchase was as follows: 2011гв, one owner, all dealer. Was repainted driver's door and wing, but the colors were cosmetic and were done in 2012. Mileage 37т km, equipment Suite with the climate! Price 500тр
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This time I'll show no service book that you always write that the seals affixed to her own, and twisted mileage. Information on the passage stored in the database of the dealer, if the machine is declared as warranty, it is necessary to check necessarily!
Full sizeWinter tires with the car was not, however, a native summer in excellent condition, and where the car went, and no winter to do, in principle.
Full sizeFurther, Kia Cerate Cope. The machine, which, frankly, I do not understand. Not understood in the sense that she looks like sporty look, there are even paddle shifters, however, with atmospheric engine 1.6 about any sport it is not.
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Full sizeIt was bought by a young guy in a young guy, everything is quite simple. But, personally, I think that in this segment there are cars more interesting, or to take cope with the engine 2.0
Go on. Off-road machine. These, too, were the Koreans, Kia Sorento 2008гв.
Full sizeFrame SUV, 3.3 petrol. From second owner, in excellent condition, I do not remember how much it cost, but something around 700тр. The customer chose it myself, so I just came for a visit. He remembered me more as a seller. Man, a decent, retired, former military, and served in some kind of intelligence, a lot went abroad. But he has a really loose tongue:) He told me so many stories that I don't really remember. But the car was really good, so bought it. Besides, apparently, off-road she saw.
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Full sizeBut now she has a new life and the machine used as intended:)
Full sizeThis picture was sent to me the new owner a couple of days ago.
I missed the crossover, but about them, and so have the blog posts:
Search Kia Sportage or the best the enemy of the good
Kia Sportage or Hyundai ix35. The selection and purchase
Purchase history of Kia Sorento
Besides, soon there will be more. Have Koreans and large sedans such as the Hyundai Equus.
Full sizeThis car hasn't had the rebound, skated on it, one of my customers, and it just looked and pofotkat.
Of course, there is almost everything, falls short if the ECUs to German cars? Don't know the owners of the Germans will say no, and the owners Ecosov that, Yes, probably. The car was running 115т km, the state can assess for yourself, but keep in mind the fact that the car used as a taxi business.
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Full sizeSo, as you can see, Koreans are represented in almost all classes of vehicles, there are vans and trucks. They proved themselves good, are inexpensive, relative to its competitors, so cheap maintenance. Now, in these difficult times, people increasingly want to buy a simple and reliable cars. As such, the majority of Koreans are. I myself encourage everyone to buy the Koreans, personally, I don't pay extra for laudatory posts about them:) Yes, I do not praise, in General, but only showed what people buy. There are those who fundamentally do not want to buy Koreans, don't know why, I don't know. Everyone has their opinion based on any experience, so we can share them in the comments. And I have it for today, next post will not be about the Koreans, I think:)
Also on the topic of the blog:
What we will ride in a few years
The result of this search Kia Rio 2013гв. New Nissans for the price of the apartment
The author was asked a question and given the opportunity to share the experience . I travel a lot on machines including rolling ... both in Russia and in the EU ...
Based on this I want to say that the Koreans:
+ cool inside ... but often only mean
+ cool on the outside
very strange to taxi
— almost all at boot much SAG (rear axle)
— the declared and the actual l\s obviously not the same
Are not as Hand Ponies at the time (a month ago I bought a second car in the family a pair of Rio \ Solaris was more expensive than a couple Polo \ Rapid on the average on 35 — 40 Tr — new)
With high not at all clear ... whether it is whether it's not ... and in 30 — 50 t km they have not felt such a nice car as when buying (You know).
As flashy the design is very quickly bored and out of date ... but this is IMHO
Niko23
And I'll tell you why many do not want Koreans:
1. Old cars (like the Rio and Getz in your post) was a poor cabin, and announced in the budget in the first case you could look for Focus, while the second Opel Corsa (owned withdraw and their'08-happy as an elephant). Feels day and night.
2. They drive like a shopping cart. Example: take with each other to hire for the trip from St. Petersburg to Finland first seat Ibiza with a 1.2 Turbo with DSG, and then Kia Led on the machine. For the price in the showrooms at the time was worth the same. But Seate you want to savor every turn, every bend in the road. They rulitsya amazing, the box switches instantly sit comfortably... Well felt the breed.
And Kia led? The seat is so-so, it goes... mmm... Yes, just going, without passion... Not the feeling at all. It's like comparing an iPhone and some sort of LG-difference and different approaches manufacturers. In the first case, you're nice to hold it in your hand and use, and the second he calls out to the Internet, does not break, but the sensations and pleasure.
Also rented Chevrolet Aveo fresh on the machine-fierce midrise. Back start to ache after an hour driving, and at the end of the day was just off. No suspension, automatic just degenerate: shake that much (!) sneaker to speed up, he removes the gear, thinks, thinks, thinks, then involves the transmission is lower, the car roars, but nothing happens. 6-speed, and the acceleration is almost there. Box in between rushing here and there, and the effect is zero, about overtaking you can forget, and about smoother acceleration too. Horror. And highway consumption of about 12 liters!
I have about a month was a Dodge stratus 1998 with a 2.5 V6 170 HP and automatic. Now there acceleration is acceleration-no loud and clear-clicked and flew (despite the old primitive 4 speed automatic), on the road from Moscow to St. Petersburg trucks bypassed the only way. And the flow went the route of 8.2, the vegetable city 11, city more 13. But unlike the Aveo to drive to the buzz and the 92nd gasoline.
3. Reliability. I advise you to read on the website auto review the section "Second Hand" and a "Resource test"
There is not one Korean itself well is not shown. At the same Aveo mechanics during the test, simply collapsed, and the suspension is constantly demanded intervention. Sid had the same sore with the mechanics + engine is disposable and with little resource.
Koreans it is a reliable machine for the duration of the guarantee. Ie 150-200 thousand of course they most likely skated, Yes. And then all. Scrap. In contrast to the same focus, or the Japanese.
And the price is the same led nifiga not cheaper focus for some reason, although the focus and better engines and boxes.
now you throwing tomatoes. obsession with the people on the Korean cars, and the DSG breaks, and options of the Kia will be a lot. what else to say. Not talking about the fact that half of the cars from salon polished, because while the dealer doesthat all the scratches, small large, and what to buy, because the Kazakhs in the shower, and bought by a neighbor. Optima GT line explicit example of this, but it was impossible to think that Kia can fake it :)))) about Korean, I can say that this is a great car if you have not had German. and best buy Polo than the Optima:)
Niko23
And I'll tell you why many do not want Koreans:
1. Old cars (like the Rio and Getz in your post) was a poor cabin, and announced in the budget in the first case you could look for Focus, while the second Opel Corsa (owned withdraw and their'08-happy as an elephant). Feels day and night.
2. They drive like a shopping cart. Example: take with each other to hire for the trip from St. Petersburg to Finland first seat Ibiza with a 1.2 Turbo with DSG, and then Kia Led on the machine. For the price in the showrooms at the time was worth the same. But Seate you want to savor every turn, every bend in the road. They rulitsya amazing, the box switches instantly sit comfortably... Well felt the breed.
And Kia led? The seat is so-so, it goes... mmm... Yes, just going, without passion... Not the feeling at all. It's like comparing an iPhone and some sort of LG-difference and different approaches manufacturers. In the first case, you're nice to hold it in your hand and use, and the second he calls out to the Internet, does not break, but the sensations and pleasure.
Also rented Chevrolet Aveo fresh on the machine-fierce midrise. Back start to ache after an hour driving, and at the end of the day was just off. No suspension, automatic just degenerate: shake that much (!) sneaker to speed up, he removes the gear, thinks, thinks, thinks, then involves the transmission is lower, the car roars, but nothing happens. 6-speed, and the acceleration is almost there. Box in between rushing here and there, and the effect is zero, about overtaking you can forget, and about smoother acceleration too. Horror. And highway consumption of about 12 liters!
I have about a month was a Dodge stratus 1998 with a 2.5 V6 170 HP and automatic. Now there acceleration is acceleration-no loud and clear-clicked and flew (despite the old primitive 4 speed automatic), on the road from Moscow to St. Petersburg trucks bypassed the only way. And the flow went the route of 8.2, the vegetable city 11, city more 13. But unlike the Aveo to drive to the buzz and the 92nd gasoline.
3. Reliability. I advise you to read on the website auto review the section "Second Hand" and a "Resource test"
There is not one Korean itself well is not shown. At the same Aveo mechanics during the test, simply collapsed, and the suspension is constantly demanded intervention. Sid had the same sore with the mechanics + engine is disposable and with little resource.
Koreans it is a reliable machine for the duration of the guarantee. Ie 150-200 thousand of course they most likely skated, Yes. And then all. Scrap. In contrast to the same focus, or the Japanese.
And the price is the same led nifiga not cheaper focus for some reason, although the focus and better engines and boxes.
That's why you outright nonsense? The reliability of the nation still rides on the ancient Sonatas, Sportage first generation (frame by the way), Magentis and Rio also first generation. Even colleagues have Rio 2001 on the machine from the USA. Mileage for the 300 and nothing, all riding and running machine.
Secondly, I will refresh the memory that in fact, thanks to Hyundai, the world now knows that a cheap car may not look ubludki. The salons have them in the budget class also changed the idea about budget machines. Still no one can furnish of salon KIA Rio in b+ class. So what about ublyudstvo shut up. I see no difference between KIA Led the first generation and the second generation Focus at the cabin. And Yes, even Hyundai has introduced in the budget class of options like heated steering wheel, climate, Bluetooth, cruise, etc. none of this was new to dermansky car.
According to the resource engine. You are in your life a lot of technical documentation read? Well, there is, on the engines BMW Vagov, etc? There is always written resource about 150-200 tons. But what is the real machine will be, depends on you. A Solaris have even 400 skated.
I can mirror to give examples of how people in the first year killed the Merc, Audi or Beemer and also say that these machines are shit. But we know that it all depends on the owner. So respect the others.
Also, funny to hear your nonsense about the comparison with the Seat. Not only is it the turbo, so do something you yourself seat never buy for many reasons. How many times to Russia came and dumped.
Niko23
And I'll tell you why many do not want Koreans:
1. Old cars (like the Rio and Getz in your post) was a poor cabin, and announced in the budget in the first case you could look for Focus, while the second Opel Corsa (owned withdraw and their'08-happy as an elephant). Feels day and night.
2. They drive like a shopping cart. Example: take with each other to hire for the trip from St. Petersburg to Finland first seat Ibiza with a 1.2 Turbo with DSG, and then Kia Led on the machine. For the price in the showrooms at the time was worth the same. But Seate you want to savor every turn, every bend in the road. They rulitsya amazing, the box switches instantly sit comfortably... Well felt the breed.
And Kia led? The seat is so-so, it goes... mmm... Yes, just going, without passion... Not the feeling at all. It's like comparing an iPhone and some sort of LG-difference and different approaches manufacturers. In the first case, you're nice to hold it in your hand and use, and the second he calls out to the Internet, does not break, but the sensations and pleasure.
Also rented Chevrolet Aveo fresh on the machine-fierce midrise. Back start to ache after an hour driving, and at the end of the day was just off. No suspension, automatic just degenerate: shake that much (!) sneaker to speed up, he removes the gear, thinks, thinks, thinks, then involves the transmission is lower, the car roars, but nothing happens. 6-speed, and the acceleration is almost there. Box in between rushing here and there, and the effect is zero, about overtaking you can forget, and about smoother acceleration too. Horror. And highway consumption of about 12 liters!
I have about a month was a Dodge stratus 1998 with a 2.5 V6 170 HP and automatic. Now there acceleration is acceleration-no loud and clear-clicked and flew (despite the old primitive 4 speed automatic), on the road from Moscow to St. Petersburg trucks bypassed the only way. And the flow went the route of 8.2, the vegetable city 11, city more 13. But unlike the Aveo to drive to the buzz and the 92nd gasoline.
3. Reliability. I advise you to read on the website auto review the section "Second Hand" and a "Resource test"
There is not one Korean itself well is not shown. At the same Aveo mechanics during the test, simply collapsed, and the suspension is constantly demanded intervention. Sid had the same sore with the mechanics + engine is disposable and with little resource.
Koreans it is a reliable machine for the duration of the guarantee. Ie 150-200 thousand of course they most likely skated, Yes. And then all. Scrap. In contrast to the same focus, or the Japanese.
And the price is the same led nifiga not cheaper focus for some reason, although the focus and better engines and boxes.
That's really where, where, as in fords with Hello kitty interior, and the materials are recycled from McDonald's
Niko23
And I'll tell you why many do not want Koreans:
1. Old cars (like the Rio and Getz in your post) was a poor cabin, and announced in the budget in the first case you could look for Focus, while the second Opel Corsa (owned withdraw and their'08-happy as an elephant). Feels day and night.
2. They drive like a shopping cart. Example: take with each other to hire for the trip from St. Petersburg to Finland first seat Ibiza with a 1.2 Turbo with DSG, and then Kia Led on the machine. For the price in the showrooms at the time was worth the same. But Seate you want to savor every turn, every bend in the road. They rulitsya amazing, the box switches instantly sit comfortably... Well felt the breed.
And Kia led? The seat is so-so, it goes... mmm... Yes, just going, without passion... Not the feeling at all. It's like comparing an iPhone and some sort of LG-difference and different approaches manufacturers. In the first case, you're nice to hold it in your hand and use, and the second he calls out to the Internet, does not break, but the sensations and pleasure.
Also rented Chevrolet Aveo fresh on the machine-fierce midrise. Back start to ache after an hour driving, and at the end of the day was just off. No suspension, automatic just degenerate: shake that much (!) sneaker to speed up, he removes the gear, thinks, thinks, thinks, then involves the transmission is lower, the car roars, but nothing happens. 6-speed, and the acceleration is almost there. Box in between rushing here and there, and the effect is zero, about overtaking you can forget, and about smoother acceleration too. Horror. And highway consumption of about 12 liters!
I have about a month was a Dodge stratus 1998 with a 2.5 V6 170 HP and automatic. Now there acceleration is acceleration-no loud and clear-clicked and flew (despite the old primitive 4 speed automatic), on the road from Moscow to St. Petersburg trucks bypassed the only way. And the flow went the route of 8.2, the vegetable city 11, city more 13. But unlike the Aveo to drive to the buzz and the 92nd gasoline.
3. Reliability. I advise you to read on the website auto review the section "Second Hand" and a "Resource test"
There is not one Korean itself well is not shown. At the same Aveo mechanics during the test, simply collapsed, and the suspension is constantly demanded intervention. Sid had the same sore with the mechanics + engine is disposable and with little resource.
Koreans it is a reliable machine for the duration of the guarantee. Ie 150-200 thousand of course they most likely skated, Yes. And then all. Scrap. In contrast to the same focus, or the Japanese.
And the price is the same led nifiga not cheaper focus for some reason, although the focus and better engines and boxes.
Yes, all manufacturers have already sunk to the same level and this level "breaking shit", except the French of course those make life good Blowjob
And I'll tell you why many do not want Koreans:
1. Old cars (like the Rio and Getz in your post) was a poor cabin, and announced in the budget in the first case you could look for Focus, while the second Opel Corsa (owned withdraw and their'08-happy as an elephant). Feels day and night.
2. They drive like a shopping cart. Example: take with each other to hire for the trip from St. Petersburg to Finland first seat Ibiza with a 1.2 Turbo with DSG, and then Kia Led on the machine. For the price in the showrooms at the time was worth the same. But Seate you want to savor every turn, every bend in the road. They rulitsya amazing, the box switches instantly sit comfortably... Well felt the breed.
And Kia led? The seat is so-so, it goes... mmm... Yes, just going, without passion... Not the feeling at all. It's like comparing an iPhone and some sort of LG-difference and different approaches manufacturers. In the first case, you're nice to hold it in your hand and use, and the second he calls out to the Internet, does not break, but the sensations and pleasure.
Also rented Chevrolet Aveo fresh on the machine-fierce midrise. Back start to ache after an hour driving, and at the end of the day was just off. No suspension, automatic just degenerate: shake that much (!) sneaker to speed up, he removes the gear, thinks, thinks, thinks, then involves the transmission is lower, the car roars, but nothing happens. 6-speed, and the acceleration is almost there. Box in between rushing here and there, and the effect is zero, about overtaking you can forget, and about smoother acceleration too. Horror. And highway consumption of about 12 liters!
I have about a month was a Dodge stratus 1998 with a 2.5 V6 170 HP and automatic. Now there acceleration is acceleration-no loud and clear-clicked and flew (despite the old primitive 4 speed automatic), on the road from Moscow to St. Petersburg trucks bypassed the only way. And the flow went the route of 8.2, the vegetable city 11, city more 13. But unlike the Aveo to drive to the buzz and the 92nd gasoline.
3. Reliability. I advise you to read on the website auto review the section "Second Hand" and a "Resource test"
There is not one Korean itself well is not shown. At the same Aveo mechanics during the test, simply collapsed, and the suspension is constantly demanded intervention. Sid had the same sore with the mechanics + engine is disposable and with little resource.
Koreans it is a reliable machine for the duration of the guarantee. Ie 150-200 thousand of course they most likely skated, Yes. And then all. Scrap. In contrast to the same focus, or the Japanese.
And the price is the same led nifiga not cheaper focus for some reason, although the focus and better engines and boxes.
I would have you to debate, but, unfortunately, a lot of work. Let's just say that in different parts of the world the way consumers and the mentality is different. The Europeans need handling and efficiency, Americans soft suspension and the size of the car (they just spit on plastics and handling), Chinese sedans, bring, and preferably elongated, the Japanese minicar cubes, etc., etc., In General, all very, very clearly. And machines now in Russia is sold on credit less than half, because the stakes are high and a lot of the VAS.
Modern (I stress this word) "consumer" credit mobility is needed in order to match the appearance of the classic social capitalist one. It is still cheap plastic screamy and front-wheel drive.
Write: "so to go and not to fool Yes"
Ask: But what else would you need a car? Not to go and fool?
Koreans... yeah anyways I won't even speak, and the conductive ponabegut a fan of Sarangov and other riffraff. so to go and not bother then Yes, the machine as a machine. The route cottage-home-work-shop-assholes to school or to the grandmother for more it does not fit. but really speaking if you don't done many millions of things and other machine except this and do not
Kia Rio somewhere 750 thousand new. Dude hotit over 320 thousand to buy a new one? invest 430тыс and get a new one. I see no problem at all here.
Kia Sorento new where you in the cabin saw 700 thousand price tag? I understand I bought a b\y means do not retrieve your lost that love you had sold.
Cudesnik13
Just have not made anything, except "Cossacks", so all the machines are import. A duty you have, as far as I know, even more wild than in Russia. You just do not think that I was somehow trying to embarrass you or your country. Just explain why you so expensive cars are. There, in Uzbekistan all cars except Mercedes. So they protect their markets and their production. In the end, 95% of Uzbekistan's population drives a Daewoo.
However Zazovskii cars quite a bit cheaper than the others. Accumulated I get 5K greens, and there is no choice, or necroth with mileage like to the moon and back(with counter twisted), more or less sane Lanos.
In General, it is logical to do protective tariffs to develop its auto industry or offer incentives to residents. So in Russia localized not only Assembly but also manufacture many brands of cars. But it is reasonable when there is a consumer and is recoverable. This is when the car sold tens of thousands. In Ukraine, the sadness came together: no consumers to recoup the localization of production and fees from corrupt officials left. But I think that over time, and in Russia the price will rise in proportion to the growing dollar and Euro.
Not quite agree about the production. For example, we have the Eurocar plant that assembles Skoda. But with all that we have Octavia is 20.e. and you have 14. Our chocolate President, as the then Prime Minister and part-owner of Bogdan and ZAZ, lobbied for high import duties in the Parliament, thereby, making it more cost-effective production of Zaza. Actually, the reason for the high prices of car it is the high taxes.
Just have not made anything, except "Cossacks", so all the machines are import. A duty you have, as far as I know, even more wild than in Russia. You just do not think that I was somehow trying to embarrass you or your country. Just explain why you so expensive cars are. There, in Uzbekistan all cars except Mercedes. So they protect their markets and their production. In the end, 95% of Uzbekistan's population drives a Daewoo.
Here are the prices you car. Go nuts in ocherednoy times. Two times cheaper than in Ukraine((
And it says the owner of two KIA? Humanities is whether or you have a special time of the month?
If you're talking about metal if you want to chat, the MRS finish, or at least materials science and strength of materials five be incumbent on. While it is clear that you're still a babe in the metal. It is a pity that you not the place of my previous post read it. And then suddenly I would know that the lining of the car is not involved in any way during an accident in the extinction of kinetic energy.
About salons Korean cars, you have scratched. Where is the level supposed to be premium, there he is. In the first place is Genesis G80 and G90. As an ex-Mondeo owner I see no real drawbacks and miscalculations in the same Optima.
Go though the book of Henry Ford read "My life and my achievements". Maybe then you will know what market to conquer. One marketing just markets and not to conquer, except for a couple of months. KIA and Hyundai a couple of months on the market. Needless to say about their awards, crash tests, and so on? A reasonable person, and so it is clear that they are worthy automakers.
having only a high quality product and low price you cannot capture the market, but good quality product. Hyundai Kia machine for those who are not familiar with a quality car. now sells design — client given design. the client wants a new modern car, it will change the design at all. leaving unchanged the guise, the engine, electronic systems and everything else, quality metal? and not for anything, for a few owners enough.and the fact that you can't go two hours in the car, not the Charter, it does not matter, a few who drive without a break in them this time, the pillow can be done in shorter. Premium acoustics? no, you can put pseudoprimes because buyers do not understand the sound... This is marketing:)
Do not, please, throw words, the content of which You do not know. Marketers are not magicians and do not perform miracles. Any way you think good marketing has a material Foundation, i.e. a quality product. There are exceptions, but these exceptions live a few days in the market, a couple of months, until everyone becomes clear that the product is of poor quality. If the product is in demand for decades and the demand is growing, the marketing is just a business. Worked for several years with the marketing side by side, and Yes, again, I'm an engineer. So it is quite understand what they are talking about.
Cudesnik13
Because the hand and popular all over the world, including the US and Europe. In the U.S., some models have become the car of the year. This machine is for life, not to boast or hemorrhoids the garage. By the way, even in terms of service the most customer-centric car. For example, you want to replace the filter, even a screwdriver is not needed. Everything is done so that you can not get just by hands all to do.
Moreover do not forget that the leading role in the hand is European and American engineers.
But cattle from the 90s not understand.
marketing.
If I had a Mercedes, at least Cesca, I would be in such a jungle did not climb to the owners budget "creditopolis". )))
Because the hand and popular all over the world, including the US and Europe. In the U.S., some models have become the car of the year. This machine is for life, not to boast or hemorrhoids the garage. By the way, even in terms of service the most customer-centric car. For example, you want to replace the filter, even a screwdriver is not needed. Everything is done so that you can not get just by hands all to do.
Moreover do not forget that the leading role in the hand is European and American engineers.
But cattle from the 90s not understand.
Possibly man pleases the fact of owning such a timepiece. Watch is not a simple subject, I have (say) is not cheap, but absolutely discreet watch, a copy of which sold in each tent for 300 rubles and almost indistinguishable from the original. I am encouraged by the fact of their availability, moreover they are not visible under the shirt. Pont? Nirazu.
But the car is just the same bluff, visible to all. Show. Well, at home Gypsy Baron (it was broadcast on TV). Outside — live the castle, and inside sleeping almost on mattresses thrown on the floor and bare walls.
"the car is just the same bluff, visible to all. Show."
Watch it's only a whim, an indulgence, a toy.
The car's safety, comfort, convenience. And not only for themselves but also for the family, for others.
Kia is not a competitor to the Lexus. Lexus is not a competitor to the Mercedes.
Don't know how things are in German and Japanese cars, but the Koreans, the iron foil. Plus, the modern trend — the painting machine paints "water based". The fight for the environment. Blah-blah-blah. In fact — watercolor or guas (O_o). It was the case, worked for a year and a half by car factory at Sestroretsk. In General, the whole kuzovnyh used one steel, and higher grade — only the corners to reinforce welded. Oh, and about the paint I know first hand from the same place. Yes, of the benefits of the Koreans — cheap maintenance, availability of spare parts, long warranty (although, those vaunted 5 years — one more Scam :) ). But, they are some kind of faceless and disposable. Although, now all the machines are (((
Five it even on the track does not consume. But at 8.5-9 meet — really :) If the city without traffic jams.
axl777
XS who is there as the expense of Marie, but in fact any car with a 1.6 even in a city of less than 10-11 is not hawala. And the more antediluvian 2 litre Korean car with a gun, there all 15 winter probably)
Hawala )))) less than 10 — hawala )))
D15a
I can not understand why take Getz 2008-2009, if the Rio for a couple of years younger to take for the same money, if the hatch is a one to one.they really are the same and suspension components, engine, etc., he owned the Rio as in 2011, but everyone wanted Goetz, unjustified promotion in the secondary
You are not right. Cost Rio higher secondary — this time, the second is slepski design Rio, and the third one does not spin Goetz, people vote ruble