407. Toyota bB. What they are, a fresh right-wing handlebars?
Hi All. Below You will see the inspection of the Toyota bB. BUT! This time all the more interesting. Will be 2 posts. First will be just my inspection and I told the client. A second post will reveal all the cards. I found aukcionnij native-a real one and compare with what I told the client and what was on the car.
And I can confidently say that I am wrong in a couple of moments, and now I will be even more picky about everything. And You now realize that if I doubt something, then, were the prerequisites and expect the worst, not the best as everyone would like.
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It was necessary to inspect the Toyota, and know all about it. About liquidity issues and so on. It was necessary only to inspect. In 2008, 400 000. Yes. Prol for 400 000! And this was not a problem for the customer, it's by choice. And this is important. Do not judge and do not write bad comments...
Many from the Far East asked me prula. And this I passed the kitchen, but for a long time. And you know what the auction sheet fake and so and so. Mileage 30 000 km on the flap on auke can be 270 000 km of examples.
But I have never zamarachivatsya finding the real story prolinol machine, but only assesses the condition. And that's what I said to the customer.
From three feet, the car looks good.
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But it has a lot of stocks. Just pictures with no description, and below is the result.
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So much for the shoals, and here they are not all. Just not enough 20 photos to put everything in detail, but for clarity, everything is clear.
It's not all polished.
Moreover, if and under polished, then it would not have helped.
Why? It's simple.
One bochina painted! And a layer of 150 microns.
Another bochina painted and a layer of 60 µm.
And in that and other case colors, not native LCP. All of these elements were shot.
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Left bochina painted, but the openings of this part is also painted. What is seen as eye and instrument. Although spakle no.
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In my opinion, the whole car was the trunk lid, the roof. Rear right wing is painted, I think in Russia, as is very clearly visible shift.
And I You all spaced. Photo is not very clear, but look closely and you will see where it shines and where matte.
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If you open the trunk lid, you will see that inside krasiny the joints of the wings and so on. There is not a native LKP and hair, and other schools of color elements. That's me on the left rear wing.
I told the customer I will describe later, so it will be correct for the sake of completeness.
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The motor worked perfectly. And very quiet! Though gas it. Here the engine 1.5 liters.
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The shoals can be attributed to a cracked windshield.
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Salon. It's nice. It is no frills, but everything is there. 10 speakers, sub. This is all controlled from the armrest. And if it is clear you will understand ahead of sofa, not seat. Space in the car quite a lot.
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Bought the car with a mileage of about 13,000 km, and it is hard to believe it? Me too. Now a small run.
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Swept. Running works! No knocks. More precisely bushings or struts stab but nothing serious for sure.
The seller, who is also the owner, and he alone is the owner of the car, not counting outbid, said that the body is not checked. And running only stand staba changed and all. The seller normal adequate man. Hold nothing back at all. What I have found, I showed him.
The result of the inspection. The car is not worth the money. Need to paint
both bumper
— door left
— left wing
— the hood from chipping(at the discretion of the buyer, stupid chipped)
— right front fender
— both door sills. And a little solder need them.
Therefore, it is not worth the money initially. Technically I think it's good. That is, the machine is not bad. But take it not worth it.
I called the customer said so.
Crash all except the roof and trunk lid. All the doors were shot. On the left side openings krasiny, right there. Perhaps the doors are not painted, and the color set with the disassembly.
The rear left fender is painted and the doorway too, there are schools of painting that You saw above. Does the wing? You never asked me, and I specifically did not say anything, but may have varied, but not 100%, that's my assessment.
The purchase of the machine refused only because of the shoals. And last night, I ran Auktsionek and learned everything that was with the car about this next post.
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nitros83
who on the right wheel sat the stuff on the left already will never go . for comparison look at the prices on the Prius 20 body for 400 000 only in 2004 right handlebar to buy and left for the money 2008 -2009 year . also kruzak and ferrets (RX300) in in the right will be more expensive 150-200 thousand machine quality is very different of the Japs themselves will not do wrong .
I will say briefly : PLUS WILDEST !
All right !
So. I initially precisely because of liquidity only left-hand drive looked, in the end it turned out as always...))
Peter, I noticed that it is colder belong to pulu. Even on sale hang longer than ones in the MSC would have sold in a week.
Splash332
Waiting for the story that Citroen is safer prule))))
I, by the way, recently Peter moved the man, who went to Citroen on RHD Honda...)) is true, helped make the decision. He doubted, but on my drive, bought the same...)) Happy travels...))
I watched skaylan V36 it without run across the Russian Federation under the full fee is 300 thousand cheaper than LHD date Coupet. But again there is a matter of taste when impractical the car is 1 million+ and you can afford a 200-300K difference to the left to find)
In principle, you correctly say, Prol desire to buy a good car without any problems for not expensive, and with this task he copes by 100%. And that is its main advantage. Actually I have exactly this reason was Prol:)
well, I, for example, with a budget of 1 million to BU proly not even approach will not) Not see the point.
From hotelok date FX35 in the foreseeable indefinite future, in a year/half. But Prol will remain for the soul)
And just like on vyhi to drive to Minsk/Peter/ the sea, at the same Citroen, with a budget of 200-400K, I would not dare)
For me reliability is not a priority in the car. The better you can tell what is safer — no. Reliability is an important characteristic, but for me not at all in the first place... About the reliability of pros know from personal experience the only positive emotions, but it's not a priority for me.
nitros83
who on the right wheel sat the stuff on the left already will never go . for comparison look at the prices on the Prius 20 body for 400 000 only in 2004 right handlebar to buy and left for the money 2008 -2009 year . also kruzak and ferrets (RX300) in in the right will be more expensive 150-200 thousand machine quality is very different of the Japs themselves will not do wrong .
That's why I moved right back and not going? And my friends also do not hurry back to the steering wheel in the glove compartment, even those who consider what is best Toyota car?
Yes, I just watched.
Further, if this is so, then it just shows that people are willing to buy these cars, for God's sake, I don't mind but I'll never understand
nitros83
who on the right wheel sat the stuff on the left already will never go . for comparison look at the prices on the Prius 20 body for 400 000 only in 2004 right handlebar to buy and left for the money 2008 -2009 year . also kruzak and ferrets (RX300) in in the right will be more expensive 150-200 thousand machine quality is very different of the Japs themselves will not do wrong .
Yes, you live by stereotypes and fairy tales have long been light a wedge has not converged on the right handlebar.
Well, that ferrets are more expensive than the Lexus I have never seen, in Krasnoyarsk, the Lexus is much more expensive
My friend ;) you are damn nice and interesting "chat about life" ;) !
However, slightly agree with the words about "D. V. is not the poorest region ! "because if just the phrase "EVERYTHING is relative ! "well, then you can not continue ...
Most importantly "...Japanese women were available for the price of a Zhiguli" !
I do believe that the car is just stupid has no right to snatch from the Family Budget more than $ 5,000 to 6,000, well region of $ 10,000 ! Everything is more expensive — already "beyond good and evil ! "personally I want to once again fly across the border, in "Civilized Europe" to hire a car which will take and "SW buchlein" poklesu in their neighborhoods ! I will never forget "Caribbean" in Greece after klobusnik, right on the coast, slightly shnyreva in waves, A-HA-HAAA ! For the sake of it "in-JOB-yvat" to opupeniya, to postpone the loot$$s on vacation and all that stuff, in short you understand me !
"For sbychu dream & enough money ! "YO-HO-HO !
Well I agree that the statement on the right who sat on the left will not sit down, or Vice versa, or who sat for the Germans on the other not sit down, all of this nonsense, I know people will be moved from the right to the left, from the left to right, from the Cayenne to the Highlander))).What about the fact that the far East never had the money for a new car, too, Hz, first DV is not the poorest region, the second was just available cars from Japan at the price of Lada, now that normal is already about 1 million.The fact that Radikov and Docstoc with the LR a lot more, but the lx 570, I just do no right-hand drive in Russia is not seen.My personal opinion is that the PR could be considered in the price up to million, the above is nonsense, the exception type machine gtr)
AlexAllion
Oh well to tell the tale, transplanted to new predici, dvuhsotki, Lexus and there are more
It is, of course, may change — but it's not "mainstream" : "... on new machines from the far East never had any money ! "(quote from "the Right wheel" Avchenko ...)
It is the same thing that the Japanese "hydrocarbon pursuit of Exclusive" ezdyuyut in Japan "MB" and "Boomers" left RHD ;) ;) ;), "ANTLERS", you know ...
habarovsk.drom.ru/toyota/...uiser_prado/21857055.html, habarovsk.drom.ru/toyota/...uiser_prado/21094832.html for your information I live in a RHD region and see how people do when they have an opportunity to buy a car in 3-6m on the right wheel won't even look
haha try pradika to buy the right wheel is cheaper than in the left . they will not find because they sought after the PR on 2mm thicker frame . for information, I am already 12 years engaged in repair and spare parts and only PR left is only 5 %
Oh well to tell the tale, transplanted to new predici, dvuhsotki, Lexus and there are more
who on the right wheel sat the stuff on the left already will never go . for comparison look at the prices on the Prius 20 body for 400 000 only in 2004 right handlebar to buy and left for the money 2008 -2009 year . also kruzak and ferrets (RX300) in in the right will be more expensive 150-200 thousand machine quality is very different of the Japs themselves will not do wrong .
nitros83
there is no sense to cut 1.5 more will come . and the year is not old clearance 1500-2500 $ costs
This is now a customs clearance?
there is no sense to cut 1.5 more will come . and the year is not old clearance 1500-2500 $ costs
It was the case my BB was sold at an inflated price from the market Rubas 50, bargain still had a twenty. Now they are really hell to find, even the day the fire, though the night with a lantern! Those that now claim the ideal, still slag... revised not long ago and a bunch more... If there were a dozen in the whole of Russia in the sale of that good. But mostly they ride and enjoy and resell to others!
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Not all of them. there are living, but the price will be the horse.
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there are live and for the right price, you just have to look)
I was so pleased with commentators here)) "azazazaz premise".
The body of BB was always on the fan, but it was revealing.The demand for these machines was and is always there. Unexpectedly, right?
PS: the car on gas I would basically not have considered to buy that there uncle Vasya nakakabili and how much it'll ride one the randomness is known.
carlsson910
In both! 8-year-old Toyota as an equal 20-year-old Mercedes
a funny joke ))
datalova
full game, not a car)))) with the layouts easier on the pelvis to travel...400 laughter
In the Mare, also the transport.)))))
not easier) even in this situation the pelvis only wins in liquidity)
knowing that machine for years, it's better this than any of the pelvis.
full game, not a car)))) with the layouts easier on the pelvis to travel...400 laughter
Once upon a time my Mark2 is also repaired in Japan. Changed the rear left fender and door. Made was obscene, really. How about on this BB. The grain of the paint was not matched correctly, it was much larger than necessary. Lac imposed at some cheap, he was covered instantly chipped. And after a couple of years on the ark got out of under the paint rust. Recently drove the car full repainted, removed all the paint, opened the designated replacement wing and said that the replacement was done well, but then have shalyavili.
if I knew you before I could have the Car looked over 4 years on the backside ))
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a strange stereotype...just have a bad car, in consequence of the apathy of the owners.
or pictures of the mechanics and possible
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you can also left-handed and about to say. everything from the car and its previous owners depends. another question: why do You Peter a right-handed car? it's in Siberia and in the East they more than left-handed and spare parts is no problem, and you, I think the situation with this otherwise )
Nothing rusted. This is important:) of Course I have not seen. It was my second car.
well, you see... you didn't even see that)
and stay after this training iznochalno in good condition after 3.5 years-this is unlikely)
What are the words?)) The car was completely poured direct on top of the chips. I overlooked inexperience. The specialists told me after 3 days. Grieved and went:)
not a fact.
it's probably just words.
my father rides a 50% repainted 96g.in.car with really small mileage and thinks that it is from the factory, and sometimes even spackle sank, where the eye can see what is beautiful... don't want to upset him...and he with cars from an early age, and the rig autoengineer and experience in vehicles all my life until its almost 60 years
So it's most likely you did not see OR did NOT WANT to SEE the shoals of your car, or is there now I'm a sheep, rubbed) or of course it's a small percentage that it was perfectly colored, and 3.5 g n-nothing let me know... this is a very rare case and not believe if he did not see.
Took a fully repainted car for 410 with mileage 146, using 3.5 grams sold for 360. Nothing shabby)
here you PPC... scratchy and peterhost certainly comparable to almost completely repainted the car and partially painted in Russia outbid, and ie anyhow cheaper to e will soon wear off, will crack, will subside, something else...
and a car for 400 Tr?! you Tovarisch exactly medalis head on something sensible is not buy and would not advise anyone to buy...
consider auto ~2005+GW relatively fresh... or what kind of nagua fresh car do you want? that would be out of the salon a week left, and enough Japan with her, in Russia drive?
Plus. Moreover, this "fresh" proly 8 years already. My current car took too 8леткой after retired, so there, too scratchy, there peterhost. but 80 thousand km on it in 4 years, dashed and satisfied.
Well, Cho? The bucket was purchased when XS, drove on the roads and areas of the Russian Federation 60 tkm. 60 tkm within the boundaries of mekhapolis naturally obtaining chips and printerdata. Traditional bucket 400 sput. There are better there are worse. LHD will be the same bucket.
If you write an article about "Fresh Prol" you need to look in Japan, before shipping. Not about usatake with mileage.
More like a remote attempt to buy a new car, and in fact bought a bucket! Now you so not happy with that kick... I want to cry...
Kosaciov to abandon the car.
found no mistakes and the car colors almost the same money.
There are still misunderstandings?
I mean, to operate a car found "shoals" is not particularly affected, crooked crafts bought the car not looks, geometry in norm, interior is OK, I think too much attention to minor details.
I say that if the price of the car does not suit you — what to watch?
If the price suits then you can safely it had to take and with what you found
If you want, but the price does not suit you — you can haggle, but still take the car.
Sense to look, to discover what is not a Museum car, which is expected in daily operation, a little crash and not to take?
mountains spackle too, all done quite neatly, why not take it?
Shoals of such — an occasion for bargaining, not in order to reject the car.
That is, you think the seller got rid of pictures and told all about the car itself?
This is not a problem? Can buy? 390 just simply price.
Or is it not for your car is expensive and generally yapov don't like? NO, it's otmazy. Advise is to buy for the same amount is nonsense.
HERE IS SHOALS HERE IS THE PROBLEM
Yes, little things is all, not worth attention.
Another reason to bargain down the price, and another thing, if in principle such a price is not enough, but why then do the nerves of the seller to do?
here here could not agree more, over 400000 fresh pros, in excellent condition, with some reservations, can be found only purely utilitarian, the commercial centre for example. Want fresh year and acceptable condition, plus included in unit and not a vegetable - it is necessary to pay a hundred.
Boxes for moving ass from point A to point B, design the levels of the 80s, no different from the Oki Soviet, utter bad taste.
You, fellow members(some of them), the author of the post, in many ways really aquavite, his criticism, the dissatisfaction of some expressions...
don't like-go and buy such a machine, man does useful work for those who are INTERESTED! not for those who popustiti, and to Express their gaven unsubstantiated stupid opinion.
I like these machines, I would rather take such) but 400 Tr and such a state... XS...XS
if only in a perfect and serviceable and not requiring replacement for $ 400 and thought it would be) for 300 Yes, but for 300 ideally, who will be given)
450 is. Reviewed all. You can buy a new ravon on the machine. 7 and 400 for the car — the toad presses
unfortunately we often deceive sell--- the promise of new cars without mileage without all the price is low and actually bring these curves oblique goats killed and taezhnye instances And in fact, if you buy and sell an honest car all very well and reliably and for a long time
Unfortunately I'm one of those suckers who bought into the fairy tales.
JAPANESE auto super I'm very impressed with the quality and clever solutions in the manufacture of
I do everything myself
Aukcionnij was not looking. Write from your experience and ask you what seems strange to me.
I'm sure that 150 µm from the factory was not, and was thinner.
The fact that Krasino and 60 and 150 ) Sure.
Aukcionnij a look or just write? I correctly looked at, not only the thickness but also the eyes.
No, you're in the post, he wrote that 60 and 150 krasiny. Do you think years if not painted, the layer will be erased or will grow? Are you sure that 8 years ago the thickness was 150 from the factory, not 60-100?
you know what they write)? looks like no)
if a new factory item 150 µm 8 years is not repainted item will be 150 microns?)) sashasasha
The Toyotas with novya not all 150 microns is. Here all is clear
+ all filmed, why?
60 µm is not a problem if the part is original, new, and painted yapii
The question was not about that) what is the factory thickness? And what is the thickness of the repair?
I only rely on my experience with machines in service(including Buzovna), with both new and used. The Japanese are so thin paint from the factory? less than 60?
Both wrong. See native aukcionnij in my posts and you will understand everything.
60 µm — painted detail? if only they put the new. like 150... can easily be native, if you paint over the original — from 200-300 to come out.