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A little bit about car prices

Hi!

I often write in the comments about a particular found the car that I bought expensive, you can find cheaper. Sometimes, even links sent to "great" options. Honestly, I'm happy, I have no reason to prove something to everyone. Buy stuff, no problems at all, they swamped the sites for car sales, Yes, you know better than me. About various obscure car dealerships are not told is that lazy. But, these car dealerships still exist, and so someone buys them. So it is about outbid is said and written a lot, but some believe that among them there are honest and decent representatives, while others believe that the most important is the machine itself and no matter from whom she bought. In short, the price of the same model vary greatly, and new cars including.

I'm writing a little about the new, everything is clear, new is new. However, even when buying a new car can fly. Here's the story from JOHN12355, he sent it a couple of months ago, there was no reason for anyone to publish.

"Now, about the salon. It is bright, there is Parking for cars near girls pleasing their appearance and friendliness.
Managers are not originally from Asia, but it is a Nicolai, Yes Ivana.
Machine is in stock at the salon, but the prices are absolutely not low as in the Internet, and is recommended. Ie, you don't win the money, unless you buy the machine from an authorized dealer.
Now, regarding the scheme of buying those "sweet" and "cheap" machines.
Low price due to the 2014 release. They say in 2015 launched another program to support the local industry and she was only on cars of 2015 model year. Therefore, bearing in mind in addition, on the beginning of the crisis, cars 2014 never been sold and are waiting until they take price 300 -350 thousand below the recommended.
Cars only here at sweet prices are in Yasenevo and nothing else.
The car at a delicious price have the option to buy in two ways.
For cash or take a loan.
If you want to take a loan, there is no problem — the paperwork and waiting for the car. Thus a single ruble to pay in advance is not required, probably, all will be included in the credit, or rather paying for it )))
But with the cash situation is a little more complex.
They clients trust, but not to the end. Therefore, please note that 10% of car value in cash. Give you order order delivery of Yasenevo car, of course give a receipt.
But the contract, which would be written that 10% of the cars are in payment for a car no one gives.
The question — and protected the client from the fact that those 10% will it cost to ship a car or what price of cars can change in a big way, the Manager said — "not protected", to dissemble did not.
In General, the Manager immediately realized that before him is not a client of his target audience and made it clear that "freebies" freebie is not worth waiting.
I will not be bred, so that the time for such customer do not want to spend.
All cars numbered frames of the motor show.
Can give prices, etc
Even gave a sample of the OST.
Here's a story."

There are even some photos:

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As you can see, it is a decent car show, even the bus from the metro will take for free:

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This is an example of that if the cars are expensive the official, then please have options to buy cheaper. But in the end, you will buy the expensive car, and still remain without a guarantee on the car.

With Used all the more interesting and confusing. Many people know just, about such car dealers, on the contrary they dismiss immediately. Moreover, without an official dealer or a modest showroom in the metro, just looking for cars only from private owners. But, as privateers, the car as sold, and bought, a dealer without a title at all. Moreover, at very attractive prices. Yes, and you also know yourself.

So here it is. All perfectly know, but someone always buys that stuff, which is sold under the guise of "not bit, do not paint, the grandmother on the weekends in the Church went." The question, why? Why do people know about the huge number of scams and each time they buy a car? It's very simple. There are three ways in which you will definitely buy is a good car – a headache. Without going much into details, I will describe them all:

1. You want to buy a cheap car. Either you want to buy a car of higher class, or you just don't have much money, but the requirements are high. Te, if you initially set themselves the main objective to buy a certain car at the lowest price, the more likely you are doomed to failure.
2. You are relying on luck. With this I face constantly. Every time people think that this time, they should be lucky. It is in this particular moment, someone will certainly give the gift of a beautiful car. Good luck, you can expect, but not only her.
3. You don't have the patience or, on the contrary you think too long and not strong. Is that a good car you have to wait long, and sometimes that delay is just impossible. I have not once described a similar situation in their posts and still going, believe me.

So, to summarize all these three points, I can say this. To buy a good car for below market price is still possible, but only if you originally set the goal to buy a good, not a cheap car. If you are counting on only luck, then it's possible you'll get lucky. If you know exactly what you want, that is, you have a goal, you'll come to her.

So, everyone decides for himself what is more important to him, or save 20-30tr and buy a car cheaper, or to buy a good. Well, bad cars too, someone has to buy, because somewhere they need to go in the end. So the prices on the secondary market are different, another thing, when price is high sell the stuff, this also happens often. So high price does not guarantee a good car.

Also on the topic of the blog:

The inspection, which was not, or another scammer

Skoda Octavia 2010 V. in "excellent" condition

Bit, paint, duplicate title...

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BarryBall 13.08.19

Nope, it's the angel wings on his back))))

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arzy 13.08.19

From Chicks at reception is the phone shot? )

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Akoz 13.08.19

No matter where they are, with the exception of Ofitserov they are all assholes.

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Foxynya 13.08.19

Worked there when something))

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Akoz 13.08.19

Ryazanka

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Foxynya 13.08.19

Inkom na ryazanke or at ENEA?)

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Akoz 13.08.19

Network Inkom-Avto went bankrupt in 2008. I got in my first car was a guarantee there and I remember the whole story.

as if we broke a month ago there was

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WeltBMW 13.08.19

Now under this guise, again began to appear in salons

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somebody 13.08.19

Network Inkom-Avto went bankrupt in 2008. I got in my first car was a guarantee there and I remember the whole story.

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Akoz 13.08.19

Suggest from the salon Inkom-Avto holding on further, drove the car for a sweet price, started punching the car and 2 buckets spackle, word for word, the tea and coffee so we got a Manager that the machine fell from the truck on the go.Well, in the cabin mate was specific, people from Ryazan and Smolensk come for holyavu and its not okozalos .

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kolka-1178 13.08.19

A. This trick. There is no market .resona tomorrow morning will go, its just at the opening of the engine to drive will take a picture of him upisatsya with laughter.

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ivanoff-T 13.08.19

Especially the bumper and bolted the plate to the inner fender.

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kolka-1178 13.08.19

I'll try to talk to friend's wife, may be allowed to snap pictures of this thing for me personally.

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ivanoff-T 13.08.19

Yes.

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kolka-1178 13.08.19

You mean this Tiguan?

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ivanoff-T 13.08.19

kolka-1178

Please. Another example for you. The showroom "Avtograd" what is in the centre of Warsaw at the Warsaw highway, 170g house. Outright fraud and selling complete junk. This trap last week on Saturday caught my friend with his wife, which machines do not understand at all, trust to chance. There they bought a Volkswagen Tiguan. The car with St. Petersburg rooms, 2009 year, automatic, 1.8 engine, leather mug. They paid for the firewood, in the truest sense of the word firewood 670000 rubles. Got my mountain friend to our plant, to make the car complete thus .The guys in the master looked up and freaking out Honestly say. The machine seems was a specific accident, broken in the left side bar, some how made the engine, front bumper is screwed a wooden plank to the lockers, by the way can be seen painted parts of the machine almost to the knee with spray paint, even on the piece of wood there, lights hanging out, chain stretched and who knows what surprises are still waiting for the autopsy machine. Mount buyers poohali, has Poehali, his wife in hysterics, the car still bought it. And they decided the wood to restore, to dissuade him from my side to sell it was pointless. According to the estimates in this Tiguan will have to invest at least another 300 -400000 rubles. I don't know how they do this car was inspected. Oh. Freaks a pancake.

If the owners will give to pofotat can be a very informative post to write

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kolka-1178 13.08.19

So my buddy is wrong, most likely the 2.0 turbo.

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Legich 13.08.19

And I say, this engine had it not set.

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kolka-1178 13.08.19

I have no idea. I did not buy this car. And I'm not a fan of Volkswagens.

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Legich 13.08.19

kolka-1178

Please. Another example for you. The showroom "Avtograd" what is in the centre of Warsaw at the Warsaw highway, 170g house. Outright fraud and selling complete junk. This trap last week on Saturday caught my friend with his wife, which machines do not understand at all, trust to chance. There they bought a Volkswagen Tiguan. The car with St. Petersburg rooms, 2009 year, automatic, 1.8 engine, leather mug. They paid for the firewood, in the truest sense of the word firewood 670000 rubles. Got my mountain friend to our plant, to make the car complete thus .The guys in the master looked up and freaking out Honestly say. The machine seems was a specific accident, broken in the left side bar, some how made the engine, front bumper is screwed a wooden plank to the lockers, by the way can be seen painted parts of the machine almost to the knee with spray paint, even on the piece of wood there, lights hanging out, chain stretched and who knows what surprises are still waiting for the autopsy machine. Mount buyers poohali, has Poehali, his wife in hysterics, the car still bought it. And they decided the wood to restore, to dissuade him from my side to sell it was pointless. According to the estimates in this Tiguan will have to invest at least another 300 -400000 rubles. I don't know how they do this car was inspected. Oh. Freaks a pancake.

For a long time on the Tiguan 1.8 to put started?

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PotAlOK 13.08.19

kolka-1178

Please. Another example for you. The showroom "Avtograd" what is in the centre of Warsaw at the Warsaw highway, 170g house. Outright fraud and selling complete junk. This trap last week on Saturday caught my friend with his wife, which machines do not understand at all, trust to chance. There they bought a Volkswagen Tiguan. The car with St. Petersburg rooms, 2009 year, automatic, 1.8 engine, leather mug. They paid for the firewood, in the truest sense of the word firewood 670000 rubles. Got my mountain friend to our plant, to make the car complete thus .The guys in the master looked up and freaking out Honestly say. The machine seems was a specific accident, broken in the left side bar, some how made the engine, front bumper is screwed a wooden plank to the lockers, by the way can be seen painted parts of the machine almost to the knee with spray paint, even on the piece of wood there, lights hanging out, chain stretched and who knows what surprises are still waiting for the autopsy machine. Mount buyers poohali, has Poehali, his wife in hysterics, the car still bought it. And they decided the wood to restore, to dissuade him from my side to sell it was pointless. According to the estimates in this Tiguan will have to invest at least another 300 -400000 rubles. I don't know how they do this car was inspected. Oh. Freaks a pancake.

Rooms St. Petersburg. In Moscow from the provinces normal cars don't bring

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kachran 13.08.19

As the saying goes "do good, do not know and evil". Now prefer to watch from the side). He made a lot of mistakes, learned a lot, got it. Who will ask for help but to climb out of here, to explain that they will logout has no desire. Everyone will go on their way).

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ivan481 13.08.19

kachran

Well without the sucker and life is bad))) there are friends and relatives. Ask for something below their dignity, and then))), bitches sold p****PS bucket 😂

As it is familiar.I have a friend like this)))Head nods, agrees, but stubbornly making his own way.It is this type of people...

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kachran 13.08.19

But it was possible with you to solve everything, BUT why "We have something worse than themselves select, which is better))))". And then suck his paw)))).

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EvgeN46 13.08.19

kachran

Well without the sucker and life is bad))) there are friends and relatives. Ask for something below their dignity, and then))), bitches sold p****PS bucket 😂

100%, my sister asked what you can get for 550-600 that would go and comfortable and not old - I replied Octavia 1.8., nodded, after a week my husband came to the Mitsubishi GALANT 2.4 automatic 2008 year, for sale is a few mesacev. Why take ask her - she was with her husband, great great. Already in the minus for the price of 60 thousand go.

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kolka-1178 13.08.19

Well Expensive Yes, Cute! Cheap and nasty! In General, the main asset of our people now is the word Free.

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kachran 13.08.19

kolka-1178

Well, Yes. Got to the point. And then help please.

Once I met the troops, "C, will take on first nine))), train and prior take. Say what the fuck the nine, you better like to walk and get your prior, and better yet be patient and buy Kia Ceed full-blooded Korean. Yes, no, n, Yes, that brother, friend, Kent took was fine)))). Explain how much is normal rubber winter summer, pads disks brake, in response : "the fuck you want to invest? Say Brother, when the machine is not going no problem! But when she travels and can't stop it's really a problem! Talk about insurance, generally square eyes 😂😂😂😂

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kachran 13.08.19

Yeah, with the word "*lyayayaya count slipped" look well, it tries, "also try to merge (though hell so, language is not so povazan as previous doctors) and begins amatoria with this slag.

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kolka-1178 13.08.19

Well, Yes. Got to the point. And then help please.

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kachran 13.08.19

Well without the sucker and life is bad))) there are friends and relatives. Ask for something below their dignity, and then))), bitches sold p****PS bucket 😂

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kolka-1178 13.08.19

Shit, is an understatement. With my own eyes this is a must see. I saw it and was speechless.

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kachran 13.08.19

Fucking sold them)

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kolka-1178 13.08.19

Please. Another example for you. The showroom "Avtograd" what is in the centre of Warsaw at the Warsaw highway, 170g house. Outright fraud and selling complete junk. This trap last week on Saturday caught my friend with his wife, which machines do not understand at all, trust to chance. There they bought a Volkswagen Tiguan. The car with St. Petersburg rooms, 2009 year, automatic, 1.8 engine, leather mug. They paid for the firewood, in the truest sense of the word firewood 670000 rubles. Got my mountain friend to our plant, to make the car complete thus .The guys in the master looked up and freaking out Honestly say. The machine seems was a specific accident, broken in the left side bar, some how made the engine, front bumper is screwed a wooden plank to the lockers, by the way can be seen painted parts of the machine almost to the knee with spray paint, even on the piece of wood there, lights hanging out, chain stretched and who knows what surprises are still waiting for the autopsy machine. Mount buyers poohali, has Poehali, his wife in hysterics, the car still bought it. And they decided the wood to restore, to dissuade him from my side to sell it was pointless. According to the estimates in this Tiguan will have to invest at least another 300 -400000 rubles. I don't know how they do this car was inspected. Oh. Freaks a pancake.

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kkonti 13.08.19

6 photos, written on your face like some arborvitae you take a picture of me )))

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DeafJohn 13.08.19

After buying the stuff to an understanding at least to some people comes.
There is always the option to buy a new car ML)))
But from the point of view of investment option is not the best and optimal )

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potter27 13.08.19

Not everyone understands this.

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DeafJohn 13.08.19

Miracles happen only in fairy tales ))))
And if we talk about BA, it is almost impossible to buy a perfect car at a low price. Put yourself in the place of the seller. You have a car ideal, first owner, low mileage, not a single scratchy... And you will set the price at the lower market price and still do the discount?
Of course not!
Igor, the reason number zero — to deceive someone who wants to believe in fairy tales and who wants to be fooled.
It is better to buy a little more expensive but really good or a year older or not top equipment (you may choose any option).
Well machine 2008 with run of 20 thousand km is a rarity. Although there are, of course.
You need to look for the real version for real money, not cat in the bag a bit cheaper market.

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Apollopwnz 13.08.19

Worked in a similar cabin.
These salons do not have any Parking outside Moscow or somewhere else.After the prepayment or the loan, bought the car from a dealer and drove to the salon.

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WeltBMW 13.08.19

Said all right. I'm also tired of people hear "expensive", "but there's the same thing and cheaper.",

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johnrzn 13.08.19

Yes, Yes, and walking.

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KDA01 13.08.19

Many years work in a salon, learned everything along and across and honestly I'm sorry that our consumers prokidyvaya how do nefig. People, even from a prestigious car dealership can be a pokemon. I sold myself to a guy battered wheelbarrow, honestly. The boys stayed up all night doing it and such case almost every day. About the price, now demand for cars in General no, at least in Kazakhstan, the dollar jumped and astalavista. The interest on the loan are extortionate. Honestly wait this moment, is not worth it to buy a car until the situation ustakanitsya.

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ololob 13.08.19

the girl at least smile )))

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AutoExpert58 13.08.19

Only came with the inspection. Sorry for the sell of the father and the son. Four years ago, I bought the car first hand. As usual not a bit, not crash. In fact "stuck" front and rear. Sell above the market price.
Very surprised - why not buy?
Who auto stuff at a price above market? No takers? That's right - buy a proven car!

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johnrzn 13.08.19

Yes, the mass of Auto salons in Moscow.At least take the cabin on the Georgian shaft . дом11(m. Belarusian)There to sell what they want.And floor mats + wheel (from the same machine) for additional loot.Mash with a run there, if you look closely the stocks a lot.Only to sell and credit under extortionate percent.People on the Internet think cheap, comes and here begins klounada.

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Ep0x 13.08.19

A familiar place. Former Dim to where I bought Gesu and there was a salon Yamaha (Moto). Was an official dealer of both brands, and then there is something.

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353 13.08.19

Topic about.

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nera71 13.08.19

We're in the country( and not only us) without a lawyer a loaf of bread buy hell, brick in bitches and in the direction of the court indicate. Scam, Scam, but for example it's not every day contracts signed and study and because I can easily soar what you want. Second in the salon do not even consider, it makes no sense...

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mexes 13.08.19

As they say the browser will not die, if in Moscow people have friends and realize that the free cheese only in a mousetrap, regional Ivan going to Avto ru course begins punching the cheapest options, with mileage the way they also sell the basic broth is a loan, low rate without PV and so on, if the car for cash that has already been written about how this works, I always wondered how it works sellers do not suffer if their conscience?

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chebyrash021 13.08.19

On account of any "Pseudocalanus" no questions, all already 100 times discussed and all are warned, now the question about the B/C. Especially now, when financial downturn and a dead market.About cars in the premium segment. I know personally 3 of these pieces of history, and the country of their thousands. A slick young, before the crisis got good money at the sales and went to take a "cool car" to "all respected and feared, and the Chicks loved themselves from cowards jumped". He takes some gelding or Behe credit for 5 years. Then comes the crisis. Sales in the ass, the wages have sunk to a meager salary. And Beha is, to Behe must be fed, must serve plus loan payments are now a third of the salary, and more than half. What is the logical conclusion? To sell the car, but that's just the problem... Who do you sell second-hand premium car in crisis? They are in good years sucks sold. What is the solution? To drain much below the market.

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endrubos 13.08.19

You are certainly a big fellow that constantly procrastinate the topics of the day.But...when there is no head of man, then on his time will not put, if someone wants to believe that the car is cheaper than udrugih, awesome quality(condition) with 3 owners, with a beautiful 10th mileage in pererasti on the days went, by 5 kilos a day and the last owner of frugal grandfather, or caring not *navalawala* girl student who went through the suspension around and decided spontaneously that now sell now... but let them think in this story:) and tell us that one in in mullion*, when they have a friend(brother), sold your car, ideally with 1K mileage...and they are now the same case are folded, devuli believe in princes on white horses and some waiting for up to 40 years), and chehabi and musicm not to believe:)

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DmitryPol 13.08.19

There is no need to call in an informal salons new and used cars. Bought myself BU car, traveled all the official and private traders did not like it. Called one of the managers said there is a suitable machine, the website still did not put, I came and looked, took their device to check the paint and bought it:) not battered, not dyed:)she even showed up. For relatives chose two cars new, so they are directly pulled from these stores:))) Chevrolet Niva cost somewhere up to 40% less than the official:))) barely talked.

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Thunderbird 13.08.19

I Subaru BRZ a couple of months was looking for, but found.

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GERbI4 13.08.19

so buy up simple to identify, and immediately send. And in such "showrooms" in life will not go.

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JT88 13.08.19

the damn place probably )
one dealership I remember I even worked round the clock )
across the street right now official Hyundai and WV by the way.

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KoleYashka 13.08.19

OOO! A familiar place.
In this enchanted place for the past 15 years changing autosaloni. Most likely it is the same, but each time under new names.
This is the end of Volokolamskoe shosse. The train is perfectly visible their internal Parking lot.
I have been there out of curiosity. As soon as I realized that I'm not a potential customer so immediately tried all the ways to ask out of the cabin.

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DeadDriverS 13.08.19

Exactly@ ! Withdraw bastards need clean water ! )

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APXOHT 13.08.19

So why did you obscure the name of the dealership, why? Let everyone know them in person!

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ZhuravlMsk 13.08.19

Ahahahahha, I even know where the place is.

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voyager888 13.08.19

below market they are "right" — there are always smekalkin ))

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alarm101 13.08.19

Really good cars usually go to their friends\friends for a really reasonable price. It is possible in theory to find the interesting "institutional" machines — they are usually far below the market are sold, but this is a separate issue.

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Igor-Sergeevich 13.08.19

"Famous" multi-brand dealers))) How many there have been investigators, and even more offended and upset "suckers"...

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shubinae 13.08.19

By the way, Yes!

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Foxynya 13.08.19

Multibrendovye about these salons are a billion articles on the Internet
The DAEC is not enough for them, did not all cover)

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lelikz 13.08.19

A blasphemy? One life and I want to drive a nice car. Here such history

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IndigoDiva 13.08.19

we have polls credit cars are worth more than the owners... and go all season on one set of tires, the second pair no money. But a solid "IPI" hard workers, which the whole family live in odnushke.

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Veretyoshka 13.08.19

I agree, ready for the last money to buy more abruptly, not thinking about the service, about what you can buy a car easier, but to live in his apartment, not with relatives in the Khrushchev

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Danbort-839 13.08.19

People are fervently looking for right now as it is cheaper to buy a car. I was faced with the fact that selling your car really is perfect, with a small yet seats at the right price, from the first owner. Come, we say that the real buyers who give us a discount 150-250 thousand Start tells how much service the dealer disheartened. I don't understand why trying to buy a car can not afford...

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somebody 13.08.19

I bought a Yaris to buy the cheapest Yaris and bought ))) all right)

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Pashu-86rus 13.08.19

Thanks for the article... there are moments that are not challenge!

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BrodyagaAl 13.08.19

baaa, Yes it is Volokolamskoe sh:)

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Krass1976 13.08.19

Know this salon RI@ the car. They have written an official dealer, as you have seen at least one certificate confirming such? (Rhetorical question). On account of low prices for their nature, I realized after 5 minutes after visiting the salon.

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Cudesnik13 13.08.19

Hmm, that's sad-melancholy. And not legally undermine. Can't we have more people come into the store and leave without buying. Still shy, they say politely, not with empty hands to go or not convenient.

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Djamal229 13.08.19

But where to go — you pay, has managed to beat, she started on the speed - caught post

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Cudesnik13 13.08.19

But the cap looks like just slapped. ) And in the end, paying or somehow managed to change it back?

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Djamal229 13.08.19

So two children, what divorce 😆

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Cudesnik13 13.08.19

A divorce filed? )))

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Djamal229 13.08.19

There was a case of interesting co-worker
The phone receives SMS auto Kia sportige at an attractive price, loan
He calls Bobby at the office, the office in Moscow ( 800 km away ) to him there by the ears blah blah blah, the price is very low, can be a loan, he finds a place for himself, in the end takes the other and on the train to Moscow,
It is coming, and there's no Kia did not smell Datsun salon sells, in short, apparently he thought that nothing was going or something, agreed to Datsun, filling out paperwork took all day, all night had tired the lads slipped the paper for a loan with oooohweeee percent...
Arrived home, his wife looked at the monthly payment and gasped...

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Limbo-O 13.08.19

How to remove from my news feed your empty article? I'm not interested in your story. Piss off already started.