405. Checking the legal purity of the car.
Hi All. Below You will see multiple portals to verify the legal purity of the car. Bookmark, and use them when checking BU car before purchase.
I must say, it's not 100% guarantee of purity. All of these are 100% our government does not do, by introducing a new unnecessary, and do not modify the old. I already wrote a post about the legal purity, but something has changed and want to re-describe innovations, and a little further into the process and to explain something. All of the examples, all sites and so will be in the post.
Many ask how to break the car for arrest, liens and so on? I always tell clients to go to put on record together with the seller. Why?
Actually, I always reinsured 100 times... I'm that kind of person. And about the runs I didn't just write, calculate for further investment in the car always. So, if today I broke purchased the car everywhere, and everywhere is clean, there is no guarantee that it is clean. The arrest may be imposed tomorrow... Stupid over nothing, or over something stupid... anything Can happen, and even because of loan debt on the fridge, You can put the car in arrest... Therefore, to protect ourselves and the client, are going to put on record the buyer with the seller!
As in Gai, I have my people, stories I had heard a lot... But I went to put on record the cruise, and the customer says that before it, people the car on the account do not put Any restrictions they had... And look where they are now? To find the seller and get money from it? This activity is bad in Russia... Easier to go directly with the seller and calmly put on record, and got up, keep the loot in hand. But the owner of the cruise and does not work in the bodies, and he couldn't go, and suggested that, taking the car, eat, yourself put on the account, and then money bring) Well, in my experience it for the first time) But he told me to find You for 2 minutes. In the end, the traffic police, drove his wife. The machine is safely stood on the account.
How to break the car? And where to do it?
1. The traffic police on their official website
When the car is clean, You will see this picture.
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If the car has any limitations, then You will see another picture.
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And even before selling your car, You view, are there any restrictions on Your car. People often do not know that sell.
Examples of vehicles in which there were restrictions on the registration, is and blog. And many of these tests, I just didn't posted on the blog.
Subaru Legacy check.
375. The Dodge Caliber.
And as You can see, with the restrictions on the registration and have the car fresh and old. And even if there is no Fault, but only the chassis number as pravorulki, it is also possible to break all through the website traffic. Time is 5 minutes. Checkout our free!
2. For a loan, you can break the car at fault in several banks on the website of the car.ru Check free
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3. For deposits you can check the car in the registry of mortgages. If the loan is repaid — closed, then there will be no information. As in the photo below. Check free.
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This portal is working since 2014 if I am not mistaken, and the banks obliged all collateral car show there. But unfortunately this is not all the banks! But the big banks, like Sberbank still follow the instructions. And below I will show You how looks an entry in the register of pledges on a car which is in pledge at the savings Bank.
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It was the screens with the phone, so it looks ugly. There is written name of the owner of the car who took her to the loan, its passport data and registration number at the registry of mortgages, and that's where the mortgaged car. It can be Bank, may have a different organization, and there will be States where the mortgaged vehicle. This portal can keep You from buying perekopsky machines! They are often the cars that are in various collateral.
However, the machine can be laid not necessarily in banks, and not necessarily because of the loan. Similarly, in the fast loans can take the car as collateral, but fail to note that, in the registry. Moreover, the Deposit can be made between two individuals, and will be valid and the register of pledges will not be displayed, since no one specifically to go to the notary and to assure the Deposit between two individuals.
So this check as one of the stages and no more. But there are still innovations and read about them below.
4. The owner of the car needs to break on the website of the Federal bailiff service — the Federal bailiff service. Just to know, there are debts or not, and what sizes of these debts. And also, they have an app on the phone that the IPhone, on Android, it's all very simple to break and more convenient. Verification free It is desirable to know the date of birth of the owner of the car. Don't be lazy and ask from the seller. At the same time learn sign up or not, if the meeting has not answered about date of birth, and begin to search for documents and passport copies, everything is clear immediately.
There is also a paid app on phones for verification machine Wine. Easier for You to check. Cost about 160 rubles, if not mistaken.
5. For loans and deposits, you can break the car on the website banks.ru is paid, the issue price is only 300 rubles, but it can save You much more. Do not be lazy to break the best car that are going to buy. So do I personally. It is not necessary to check everything, but in some cases you need to do this. About it at the very bottom.
To check You will need the serial number of the TCP. That is a title and not a certificate of registration. And WINES of the car. After payment etc, You receive a PDF file in which everything is specified. Again it is worth saying that there is no checks at all banks of Russia, and still only for some, and the list of banks will be able to read on the website.
When the car has no collateral check the banks, You will see that. — INFORMATION ABOUT COLLATERAL FOR THE MODELS NOT FOUND
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It happens that the bail was, but it had already closed. And if it was in the banks that are on this website, you will be written a little differently. DEPOSIT INFORMATION ON THIS Veh is NOT DETECTED, as written below and marked the end date of Deposit.
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Innovation in Russia. You can request a certificate from the notary that the car is not in the pledge. The issue price is 80-100 rubles. To check you need only the VIN of the car. Any notary you to check it out. But again, this does not mean that collateral is not!
Explain. You punch a car at the notary at 12:00. At 12:05 buy a car. During these 5 minutes could something happen in the registry, it is updated online, and then the machine will appear in the pledge. And You kind of like a piece of paper that pledged she is not. Nothing good about it. There is only one plus in this paper, You will surely recognize bona fide purchaser, and You will be easier to sue a car from banks and other organizations.
I just want You to understand, the risks are still there. Even if the notary has issued You a certified piece of paper that the machine is not in any pledge!
Another point, if the Deposit was made between two private persons and not indicated in the register of mortgages, the notary will give You a piece of paper, there is no security on the car. But he really is! And then again, You in court will be easier to win the case, as the notary gave you a certified certificate that the Deposit machine is not. And the people, between whom there was pledge themselves to blame, not noted him of a notary.
And again, this does not mean that 100% is not in the pledge, it does not mean that 100% of the problems You will have! It only means that You will win in the court case! But it is at least some guarantee for You as a buyer that the car won't take.
I will write again, 100% guarantee of Legal purity, to GIVE, NO ONE CAN! ! ! ! Always will remain a great probability of problems! Just so you know, and tell your friends and acquaintances! No one can give 100% guarantee of purity. Even the dealers, giving out a piece of paper, about legal. clean often sell the collateral or credit cars. And the state in turn is doing everything through the ass, and doesn't want to protect their citizens!
Do not be lazy to write out VIN, number and series title, name of owner or simply to take a picture, as I do, and then to the ball wherever it is possible.
And better fill the DCT, in which it is written:
The car dealer ensures that sold them the car(VIN, make model) to anyone not sold, pledged, in dispute and under ban (arrest) is not, has no restrictions on registration activities.
And preferably put the car on the account with the seller.
I have previously written that I don't break everything cars all the portals, and especially for a paid portal banks.ru. But I also wrote that in some cases you need to do it. And here's an example.
The car is in another city. Or 5 cars. Before you go to watch them, you need them all to break. And pierce is desirable everywhere. You don't want to arrive and realize that the car loan, the mortgage or the arrest? And if you do for one machine to eat, and she pledged loan or the arrest? Then what? Just to drive home? Easier not to go anywhere at all, and the first to break with cars. Right?
To do this, first, ask all the WINES, the serial number of PTS, name the one car on the account. That is the name of the person to whom the vehicle is registered, not the outbid, which is not inscribed in the title even. And check everywhere. Maybe it will keep You out of trouble.
Can be so that everywhere the car is clean, and the registry of pledges too! But in fact, she borrowed any little-known Bank, and they just don't say the pledge at the notary office. Here You will be able to help the banks website.ru, maybe it will be the info about the car. 300 rubles expensive? And for 5 cars even more? Believe me, for your peace of mind is not expensive. But it will not immediately eliminate the need options. Or will be more confident in the car. And buy BU a car that You don't seed to buy, then have to spend money to protect themselves.
Be sure to check whether You entered the VIN on all portals! I had a situation when I was wrong digit or letter! And once arriving in another town, and seeing PTS in live, I realized that I was wrong in one letter. And in the photo title, which wotsap I was sent, it was hard to see. I phone checked. And as You can see, the car was in pledge at the savings Bank. These screens from the phone because of my mistake. All wrong, but I have no right to it, so recheck everything several times.
Decided the question is simple, I went and paid the remaining amount for the car, got in the savings Bank a piece of paper that the car is no longer pledged to the Bank and be done with it. And the owner of the car said that after the transaction would have closed the loan! But why do You need these risks? Easier when You to pay than to think then he will close the loan with that money? Or just buy another car, and the loan will extinguish quietly... and if he's putting it out... ? Specifically, this seller has been my client in the future.
I have all the. All over the WORLD. Be careful when you buy BU a car, reduce their risks to a minimum. And all their stories write in comments.
in-in. people are scared, "if a duplicate pass". I have a brace. Duck then uchto there in 1 year machine, 3 owners changed and assigned to the office. dealer. already 2 cars were duplicate "Instead of the original" and everything is OK.
When replacing a title for a duplicate, in the column special marks to write *Issued in exchange of the original* or *Issued in exchange for the lost* once again, If you just look in the right place, problems can be avoided
A duplicate title is not a sentence machine
Part of the answer is in your question, namely: wanted FRESH Lexus with low mileage, not bits do not paint: well, in General, all as humans...
Good afternoon. Read the author periodically writes on the case.
And then just leave the story as my friend was pinned when you purchase a Lexus IS250.
The case was this: he looked after himself this Lexus. The machine is in another city. Contacted the seller on the phone, that all documents sent, all told, showed. There was one caveat: the car had a duplicate title. Also hired the same "smotrel" as default. That also all looked to have a shot: the result — everything is OK, the car can be taken.
Agreed on the week to buy. Arrive, buy. Then in the city registers, all right. Rode for 2 years, decided to sell. Sold.
New pokupki — went to put on the record, and it turned out that the car in pledge, in the arrest of some Bank of that city. When they started to pick that as a Yes, it turned out, prodavali (the very first) — laid the car. Then said the loss of the TCP, he was issued a duplicate title. And he for duplicate title — sold it. Moreover, because data are not immediately in the collateral base, my friend managed to buy and put on the account without any problems. And in the end went out th...
Any fraudulent krivosic diagrams: it turns out the ocean and a small box for motorcycle and auto business.
So neat and all of the WORLD.
Thank you.
AntonNew
Hi! For the sake of interest climbed on Craigslist to see what's what. Came across a strange ad
"Legally clean, sold with papers, but without re-registration (tax not pay, the fines do not come with the information of Your vibera and matsapa PTS sent immediately to familiarize)! "
What is a divorce?
Ala the old theme with the gene attorney
Hi! For the sake of interest climbed on Craigslist to see what's what. Came across a strange ad
"Legally clean, sold with papers, but without re-registration (tax not pay, the fines do not come with the information of Your vibera and matsapa PTS sent immediately to familiarize)! "
What is a divorce?
Fines always pay, I don't know
But friends said who have 1 year+ hung, was on the Council some
Confirmed, sold the car, the new owner failed to put on record my fine of 500 rubles, which had already been paid, but for some reason was handed over to the bailiffs
jamb base likely. my car supposedly was a loan, if you beat Avto ru. in fact, there was nothing.
Wanted to buy old kruzak. It was pleasant and the condition of the car and the van and my budget. Everything is always OK. Watch it on the basis of those inspections and do not understand how he passed his day and region, not beating, although the owner said that another half of the year. Then I found a site that shows the history of those inspections...in General, one wine, 2 kruzak in different regions with different state signs (Kemerovo and Volgograd). From the deal decided to give up, though the owner was not opposed to go to Gai on the play.
z.s. Kruzak was 9 years old, but the performances he was helped by friends, allegedly the room is beautiful. Where is the truth - I don't know.
Just a couple of days ago put the car on the account, and straight in front of me wrapped guys with arrest on the car) Guy, a girl and a father of one of them was like pugs with bulging eyes and not knowing what to do next
Unfortunately I do not have time to communicate with them what exactly was the problem, but nevertheless it is better to check as much as possible
Babur
Opened the scoring. Came to another city. Choose a car.Everything is OK next steps? — the amount above the 1 million they do not immediately give out, you need to "order". The transfer to the account of prodavan to do it you will not give it for a check without seeing the money.
500 THOUSAND. AUSTENITE TO REMOVE ALREADY CHECKED!
Clear all. fantastic scheme. opened the scoring for the seller, transferred the money to him and he's such a shithead gave you the docks on a car? you immediately the transfer was canceled and everything. no one would go for it.
Contribution to the seller, Carl! how many times have I already wrote. About percent for money transfers from the region at Alfa Bank to ask them was if between accounts. I finish the conversation, I see that it is useless! Good luck!
Opened the scoring. Came to another city. Choose a car.Everything is OK next steps? — the amount above the 1 million they do not immediately give out, you need to "order". The transfer to the account of prodavan to do it you will not give it for a check without seeing the money.
I'm not a consultant of Sberbank, on the hot line prompt. And Yes chic the theme of going to another city with cash then looking for a Bank with a cell, you will notice not all of the banks they have such Izhevsk, capital of Udmurt Republic is only 3 banks provided banking unit, enter into a contract with the Bank, put your money, and then go watch the car? ))))) Bravo! But for example my situation, I'm surrounded by 3 cities, Anapa, and Krasnodar Novoros and each city cell start ))) by the Way the consultant will need to know how much it costs to check the cash on the fake out of the cell ;)
Account in BEAC for example in the region. go to a different region, you open a new account. to him money to throw the Commission.
trying to figure out).
why carry on the pocket cash?, that kind of nonsense? Money in the BANK, CARL!)))) on account of the initially lie, waiting, percent bring work, do not go with the buyer, the car did not choose, they do the money they place in the Bank ))))) From Sberbank for example there is no problem with opening contribution no matter where the person is a resident of the Russian Federation was (not all contributions can foreigners open) in Short, use the cell that I've loaded.
ie go to your Bank where you have your account and the money is? or go with money in the Bank?
if the money in the Bank - this again can not be reached ))))
and if the account is otkryval — if the car in another city it is problematic)
duck I the food first to the traffic police to check the car with the seller, GAI says OK, we go to the Bank to sign the open contract contribution, at the hands of the contract and the check. After the cells of nal to the seller to check, in a cell, anything can be put, and again the cell checks does not issue.
duck contribution you will discover BEFORE registering a car. and with the cell it is possible to agree that the only access at the time of re-registration of rights.
why not use the cell? I sometimes use when going on vacation, leave the cell documents and all sorts of valuable things. A deal cash with you don't drive, open a Bank Deposit in the name of the seller and transfer the money to him, so my arms got a check from the Bank that the money I transferred to him, so also eliminates the time of verification of banknotes for fakes. Excellent scheme, I see no flaws.
it is strange that the cell Bank is not popular. and so it is possible on the way from the DMV to the Bank without the money to stay.)
Very useful article, do the same, going with the traffic police with the seller to give the documents to the inspector and asked to check for restrictions if everything is OK, go to the Bank fill in the contract and are calculated, then off to registration.
Because of all this morochne system PTS-STS and the mass of documents on the car unlike the one in Ukraine and have problems. we at deregistration checked all the legal aspects and if the machine is removed from the register is a guarantee of purity of state-VA. you can safely go and put. upon deregistration of even examination is carried out and repeated in the formulation in the presence of that that when removing is not required.
you need to tweak the laws to make it easier.
in RB also
I write not from the ceiling, compare objectively
here are just returned by the way of the Dnieper — I sold my car on the Crimean rooms. I took a SIP off.
I can assure you that if the Russian MREO major in the window will tell everyone openly "give $100", the crab and the bee tomorrow are to sit with friends in Syria.
1. no one is forcing anyone to buy a car with duplicate title these cars in the sale of ~1-2%. but if you really want you can always understand why issued this is a duplicate to replace lost or because the place over. you can finally copy of the original ask. But me personally, even from the second owner of the car not interested. I am the 2nd owner and nothing else. 2 years chase cars from the mainland to the Crimea.
PTS and the certificate is not equivalent to 2 of the document.
The Testament is a Ukrainian registration certificate, issued in the name of the current owner. it is necessary to carry with them.
PTS is kept at home in the safe with the documents of the property. need only the sale/renewal. to lose... you know.
2. In Russia, when buying, take seller. go to the notary (sign the renewal of the machines), he checks himself and enter the new owner title, puts printing. All. The issue price 1000rub in the MSC.
come to ired — get svidelstvo.
if we consider the option — take the car in one region, namely the owner — draw on yourself in another. there are many other more reliable options.
if someone considers themselves smarter and/or likes to gamble, he can do something else.
apparently a lot of times the problem of deception aktualna.
Transaction authorization is not a sale, with the same success you can simply give the car key. It is on the conscience of those who conducted it.
Those.inspection — this is pure corruption in its natural form. For a fair price, you can make any car vehicle inspection. What some are doing something else does not mean that the system sales are bad.
With the new system for the sale of a bribe can not pay. He went through the procedure fast enough. If someone still wants to pay — again — not our problem. About the base and can't find it don't know where.
About advantages of the Russian Federation:
1. Duplicate title — and you see nothing else. The very possibility of 2 equivalent documents of ownership for one car is a raving idiot. Who invented it? Information on the number of owners is as useless as mileage. That gives you the number of owners? The machines in the cabin is limited space in the TCP for performine legal.individuals.
2. Deregistration from us — it's not a problem buyer, it makes money for the seller. The buyer receives a technical passport and paper to him stating that the car is removed from the register. This is a guarantee of cleanliness of the car, because the car was tested in MREO on crime and legal clarity, including liens and other encumbrances.
So the system in the Russian Federation is opaque to say the least. Can it be done easier and safer.
Yes, what You say, and many in the Ukraine are removed from the account when buying?
Yes, 90% buy proxy, and then look for dead owner.
the number of twins is through the roof, because machines are simply not required to inspect by the experts at purchase.
inspection again, no.
some even take the title, took the registration, gave money and went, no names and signatures, etc.
only now MREO some recovery in connection with the renewal with the treacherous Crimean and Donetsk rooms.
bribe for cancellation of registration when changing registration plates from $100 and above.
or just on the basis of "no find"
in Russia 2 simple advantages: 1. immediately see the number of owners when buying, you can't hide.
2. to renew the car on itself, it is possible for a modest 800 rubles, without bribes and other pain.
3. car is always your property, nothing else. because there is an annual tax on cars and none of it you do not want to pay.
another thing is that even with such a transparent system, out of the blue, on the table, the Russians manage to find a pit of shit and drown in it.
Because of all this morochne system PTS-STS and the mass of documents on the car unlike the one in Ukraine and have problems. we at deregistration checked all the legal aspects and if the machine is removed from the register is a guarantee of purity of state-VA. you can safely go and put. upon deregistration of even examination is carried out and repeated in the formulation in the presence of that that when removing is not required.
you need to tweak the laws to make it easier.
Glibov
yeah, you're all messed up(
we have a little bit easier...
Just made these DKP, people ponapishut on the knee and satisfied in Gai...
Bought the car and checked the owner on the FSSP (had debts on taxes), he went to the traffic police, subject to calculation after the registration, respectively the restriction imposed went to the police officers he paid all the debts of 50 thousand rubles and got my hands on a certificate of absence of debt, then back to the traffic police where we are and rebook the car. And as it got.
Thanks for the article! I in addition check the car on avtobot.net he sometimes finds car owner by license plate
On account of the 100% guarantee of purity auto a few months ago in the news in the city of Abakan were history. The guy I bought the car (it is a 8 owner) that is put on the account in traffic police and went happy half a year. Through a floor of year the car was arrested as westdoc, because three of the host before him, this car was bought with the money obtained by criminal means after the robbery. And while there is a criminal case, the courts, etc. to the traffic police. And it is not known will return him to her or not. That's how it is. You should always check everything and preferably several times.
Mine in Gai on the website is not properly noted, there is my guilt that I have drawn the whole face is broken (cross 2 front) and my shot was just to the left (there is a photo in BJ), the rest is all right and the date and time and place)
the change of owner as the result of the transaction, entry into an inheritance, merger and division of capital of a legal entity, the transfer by lease agreement
Sorry, can't tell . What does it mean ?
Before purchasing a used/the car, everyone wants to know the whole story of his future car. Here I am faced with such a situation.Appealed to different specialists, but it was not good for me results. On the Internet I came across a website autocode ru avtocod.ru/ Want to use the services of the website. About results I will unsubscribe.
I know guys that do this machine, that punching thickness gauge is useless. Only do not cheap.
To choice BU car must be approached comprehensively. Had to buy cars with mileage. Usually taken with a Jack with one HUNDRED and struck a car on VIN number avtoraport.ru/check_types...rka-vladelcev-avtomobilya . Easier of course to buy a car with interior. In this case, fewer problems, though the salon can sell the car not always new.
Of course, you need to go with the seller in the traffic police and to put on record the car, and then together to wash: it sale you purchase! No kidding, the joint visit quickly puts everything in its place. Second time buying a car through Craigslist. Negligent sellers from moving out from the market. In General, a lot of services to check, but there was only data. What remains "behind the scenes" is unknown. To save time it is better to ask vinkod, the license plate number of the TCP on the phone. If you refuse to say – think about it.
Who does not listen, we're going to put the car on the account with the seller. However, at the moment, it is not easy to implement, because in order to go to put the car on the account, must pre-register for this procedure through public Services — the Department of traffic police the nearest available date for registration 2 weeks on a weekday (2 hours in the middle of the day). Not every seller will be willing to wait 2 weeks and then go in the middle of the working day to put sold the car on the account in the end it's problem of the buyer...
Yeah, well, nobody can give a 100% guarantee. It turns out in any case, there's a chance that you will be deceived and buy at your own risk. You can still use the base type autotake — everything is collected directly from these portals official data about accidents from the traffic police, the deposits/loans from property records + a bunch of unique information on the service and not from dealers/STO, calculations of the cost of repairs, etc.
In the traffic police and I have your man, only known case when a man asked to take a car from a friend, he gave the nod, and with the registration it turned out that the wine is cut. Shelkov said. So in addition to the report you take the trouble to compare the original data with the real. My car bought on Craigslist, but now it is not removed from the register, so I checked out very meticulously.
I checked the car at the state room on the website statenumber.ru. There free service pictures, you can see the accident, use in taxi etc.
Now not removed from the register and, accordingly, is not put? Or am I confusing you? My car purchased in 2015, but I remember well how it was worn. Legal purity was checked through AutoTech twice, for he thought that the updates may be delayed. But it's better than buying nepoymi that and to spare.
Thank you for the info. Very useful.
Look trid-inovsky car in ECx. Under the Agency agreement. The owner where it is from Kemerovo.
trade-in offers calculation after registration in the traffic police.
on a trade-in hanging the writ and 1.5 million from this year.
worth the risk?
how much are your services and how to contact?
Good time, say if the car I bought and put on record on, I'll go take the certificate at the notary. It helps if the car suddenly "pop up" ?
I also once sent fuzzy the VIN, which I later incorrectly stated on the website of the traffic police and, of course, got the false information. And I agree that completely remove the risks not only to reduce. And if you send the VIN number, you score in the service and pleased with the report, not sure by personal inspection to verify VIN numbers everywhere in person and to compare all the data on the documents. Of those services that you describe, I use the traffic police, Federal bailiff service and the registry of mortgages, at different times added AutoTech. This comprehensive approach has saved me from many "not broken, not painted".