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385. Kia Ceed. What to buy for 500 000 on the machine?

Hi All. Below You will see the inspection of purchased Kia Led, its condition, its equipment, mileage, and what was needed and what we eventually got.

For starters, if You just got on my blog, I advise you to run through the navigation on the blog and navigate the blog 2, You'll be able to find 3/4 of the answers to your questions.

Ordering was such a small car, be sure the machine, the machine searched the girl, and the customer guy. Price 450 000 rubles region. Began to think, what to buy? Led 3 door wanted real that you could find. Other small cars, but they're all robots or only mechanics. So cut off from the Fiesta and other cars. Stopped on the side of the door 3, the options for inspection was (although wanted a car smaller). Fabia as it is not wanted. In General, choose a small car on the machine is not easy. Robots don't like it, options are traded only on the mechanics, we still from 2010 and put it 450 000 and that the actual mileage was up to 100 000 km.

And I began to search. Girl sold Led with three doors. 2 master bumper, painted, checked, and so on.
In fact, 3 owners, roof in space, all bochina, and muzzle. Cracked spackle on the bonnet, the radiator grille is split on the inside, and all podkapotka napile in white paint...
Girls sellers are almost always right... And the girl was surprised, the whole roof is painted and spackle? To me the previous owner she said that painted only a small vmyatinku(ie me initially is silent).

Further still Led, his face collected but not even painted, and others are not the best options, and everyone wanted for these machines more than 400 000 RUB and does Some 480 000...

When I inspected everything already, I told the customer — nothing to take... Or to wait(can be forever), or add money, but 3 doors is still there, and to look for a full 5 door car, or not Led, but something else.
After consulting with a friend, wife, sister, do not know who it this girl found another 50, 000 and agreed to a 5 door Led, if it is a good option.

And again, as usual. On the phone one, in fact, everything is different... a Sea of shoals at all, the machine is not well maintained, the owners of 3+, a lot of options have outbid, and then I found finally this Led.

By phone, one owner, bought new, without colors at all, service book all done at the official dealer where purchased. 2010 release, the warranty has ended not so long ago. Rubber both sets, cracks on the windshield no. Equipment maximum. Watch the food.
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Looks good. Nothing critical at first sight.
The machine is really whole a whole, has podchasov. Claimed mileage of 60 000 km, All marked, except for one glass. The seller says issued driver's window, dragged the Registrar.
Please note, the headlamp is marked, not overwritten, which also indirectly shows the mileage.
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The shoals on the body was.
Painted rear bumper, got it done, but not perfect. There are chips on the bonnet, not much.
On the door of a small frame with no dents. Said marker.
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The biggest disadvantage of the body it began to rot the trunk lid(the problem known). And its not repainted under warranty... And the owner of the car says he didn't know that you can paint under warranty from a dealer... It's sad, because already the warranty came to an end, and color will cost 7,000 rubles.
For example, on this side, the problem was the same, and even in the same place, and painted the cover a month before the end of the warranty(even less).
Here, this will fall on the shoulders of the buyer.
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Was petty and scratchy on varnish, which no machine can buff out, nothing critical.

Brake rotors with little wear for its mileage.
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Normal as winter tires 16. Summer as is.
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Service book, full filled. The first oil change on mileage 2800 km, then how it should be, once a year or after 15000 km.
Last service carried out on 29.10.2015 years on the run 57 736 km. About the book still at the bottom of write.
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Salon laundered. Did the dry cleaners before sale. And I was, I thought her sign up sells. All these underfoot, paper, carpet and dry cleaning, but it was just a good owner the car! In our time is rare.
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On the condition of the cabin, see for yourself. Nothing killed, no zacharchenko. There is stabilization, eyeglass case, 2 zone climate control, alarm with auto start and so on. Even the windshield of the native original and free of cracks and chips.
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385 Kia Ceed What to buy for 500 000 on the machineFull sizeAgain in the trunk compartment for change.
Run the engine and look podkapotka. Any bolts not spinning, the motor avtoteplo, the battery is new and under warranty, bought in Cepheus(our understand), the battery is also in the "insulation box". The motor is quiet, operates smoothly, has no leaks. Everywhere the marks on all the bolts.
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Mileage You probably have understood from the just described.
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On a test drive. I sat down, asked the owner to screw me. Hodowca did nothing and never! Go, stand staba bryakayut 100%. But it is a trifle. She hodowca elastic, works perfectly, the car still hard the machine is working perfectly.
Machine price 520 000. A bargain at 490 000.

Call the customer, explain everything, and he was there quickly approached. He's seen it all liked it. Send the customer in service by a certain time, and himself, with the seller going to the dealer to punch a book and warranty repairs. The seller Sid said under warranty, changed the bearing of the generator to him and nothing more.

Owner of the dealer has confirmed THAT all dates, all purchase orders. Warranty repair of the generator is also in the computer, I was shown.
The same was held revocable company, like all the Seeders and replaced, mount the gas tank, and brake tube, and the corresponding records in the computer authorized dealer.
All work was carried out from a dealer, even such as alignment.

Go to the service station, do a diagnostic on the computer. Everything is normal, everything works. The air conditioner is running and the system pressure 3990. All as it should be.

Diagnosis khodovki.
Me service, say the mileage on the ride(approximate mileage). Just pulled up on the lift, felt the tail ends and so forth, and said 30 to 40,000 km mileage? I say, no, 60 000 km, well-Preserved, went gently.
All the underbody is like new, all bushings is normal, rack and sleeve stabilizer are normal.
I like normal, stuck some have. Look better.
Showed me how to both the seller and the customer. Well, not something to dig. Swoosh I thought of)), Although not invented, running the chassis by itself. No, it is not something that would how all dead beats, but some of the sounds definitely has. But nevertheless, nothing found for hodowca not a HUNDRED, and my masters dig up hodovok much.

The total for the car.
Fully serviced, well maintained, in pre-maximum configuration, without Ponkrashov on iron, the bottom never fought, protecting the engine is the iron(not the boot), the signaling with the startup, 2 sets of wheels. Almost the perfect machine, except the joints on the body. The price is 490 000 rubles.
7000 rubles will need to paint the trunk lid and all attachments. Nothing more needs to be done. Is done recently, oil is clean still. Mileage of about 80,000 km need to change oil in automatic transmission.

The car was bought, around the city of Chelyabinsk. Such cars need to take! Expensive You say? And who will find better with the same condition and package and mileage?

All over the WORLD.

What else to read in the blog?
361. As a born machine not bit, do not paint?
366. Body post. How to sell is not broken 3 summer business-class machines
359. But what if you buy a 3 year old Touareg?
376. But what if you buy fresh Skoda Octavia with mileage 60 000 km and service book?
347. Don't buy nothing! Diagnostics German.

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Dimarikk 13.08.19

308 is more than a rival to sid in terms of equipment.Flowers at this age the body of the Frenchman you'll never see.But I must admit that the Koreans are easier and cheaper to service.But driving is so-so.

in addition to the indentured servants and the type of low cost to take them is nothing more at these Koreans

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Dimarikk 13.08.19

Google

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Avtopoisk74 13.08.19

Ford is the brand?

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Dimarikk 13.08.19

Avtopoisk74

That over 500 interesting?
Jetta 68 years?

I have over 530 bought a Mondeo and I stress that it is with the mechanics I have searched the car because it is now where do not spit one automatic transmission for sale(which I'm not fond of) and I've 11 years. and this despite the fact that Ford is a brand and not some Korean suchlike. Mondeo in itself is interesting golfing class. because Golf class and all that is less than and not jeep, this is not a machine.

and why poke a man who has no dough saying that you have a Jetta ? you also won at tycoon go on the rice in which I drove and got out with the words — thank you puked. I went on all these and rice and the Koreans — its share perekopskii machine such that the comfort — there appearance is not simple ... there are of course exceptions but the Golf class to them is clearly not the case ...

and even then there client didn't want, I also have such service as selection for money but I people transplanted without problems on normal machines according to their budget and then I say thanks that dissuaded us from this is such that the car ...

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kirichhh 13.08.19

I agree

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Iexpmhihx 13.08.19

Even if the "pleasure" expressed in money ))) And loved the car, keep it in order... And then on the secondary all this shit... and the fact that you have maximum speed, which is a decent amount more expensive than the market average. set (((

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kirichhh 13.08.19

Nice to buy cars from such owners

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Dizzart 13.08.19

Good, honest car, in my opinion she's the only one minus is the outdated exterior design. So the author coped with the task 100%

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somebody 13.08.19

Driver559

Of course, each frog about the bog, but... In 2010 I bought a Rio, and 2 months waited tired. Came to collect the money and there LED stood, swept long thought added 150 and took( the car my wife had). After a year with a run of 20, I passed it ovno. Now Peugeot 308й she has, much better car. Tales is all about frogs. And if you look that over 500, you can take the maximum speed with a panorama from 12 years and above and will remain, I personally do not understand what this side is 500k. PS. Rights IMHO. And not impose.

Owned sid, everything is fine, but the engine it still is!

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Circony 13.08.19

Also approximately the same owner bought a normal man at the age of two months looking for, too much stuff has revised, and is now in search of asking for the machine 550 and above, not painted not broken, 1 owner, punch through a friend, 3 pensioner went 1 man, 3 crashes, the second title, quiet too, anyone expect such hydroweb...e people. You know, without the sucker and life is bad, but damn this is arrogance of the highest degree, to sell a car and then walk around with a smile on his face, like regular brow lit.

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jus17 13.08.19

Here srach lit, Nahua?each DRO.em how he wants.Someone that like to let it buys.

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Bruneller 13.08.19

Yes no there are better cars for 500 thousand

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Avtopoisk74 13.08.19

Fixed

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AleksandKIA 13.08.19

All read. Interesting, informative. But! the Cepheus!

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region198 13.08.19

Inspection is akin to interrogation. Honestly any seller of such approach is not pleasant, even if you have nothing to hide. Want a perfect car, go for a new one. No money BU taking for granted with small joints. As a seller, I wouldn't spend so much time, exposes for the 450 but not for the 520 from the market to 490, and go to buy a new car without the hassle.

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efremenkoas 13.08.19

interestingly, the signaling is the same)

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region198 13.08.19

And in the presence or absence of prejudices, complexes and biases.

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somebody 13.08.19

well, if 40 thousand. for 4 years, then Yes, big investments will not come soon...probably.
the Lada has advantages of their own, here it is only in the preferences.

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Avtopoisk74 13.08.19

machine on the machine.
hodowca goes over 100 000 km.
40 000 km will pass mozhnt to be for 4 years only
Lada is hell. a new Lada, even more so

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somebody 13.08.19

well...as an option...but after 30-40 thousand, the new owners waiting for a big, clutch, brake discs with pads, hodowca etc.
He recently looked at what to change my Lancer with a budget of 500-550. Domestic is not considered. In the end, decided to keep, maintain and ride on.
Option for the money to get a NEW car at all.LADA))I. this is a good option in terms of reliability for 2-3 years. If you're lucky with the particular machine, of course)))

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Galloglas 13.08.19

Also recently completed this quest. 3 days nonstop was looking for a car. Around looking for suckers who will buy their old killed buckets. Reviewed about 25 cars — only a third of them were the real owners — the rest of the outbid, Parking, showrooms. These bastards blatantly lie on the phone about the condition of the car and the seller, the number of owners and place of the inspection. And only when we come to a place — you know that you cheated.
In the end I was lucky and I got to a normal motorist who followed the car and honestly without hiding anything told about it and shown.

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rain99 13.08.19

It's never the speed.
Penultimate.

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shalyn 13.08.19

For the money of the children of peace could be find the Mazda 2. In excellent condition and on the machine.

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Dshch 13.08.19

412 Moskvich

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Predatorxxxx 13.08.19

I wonder what will be like this Led after a year with this girl.)))

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UdavKaa 13.08.19

Driver559

Of course, each frog about the bog, but... In 2010 I bought a Rio, and 2 months waited tired. Came to collect the money and there LED stood, swept long thought added 150 and took( the car my wife had). After a year with a run of 20, I passed it ovno. Now Peugeot 308й she has, much better car. Tales is all about frogs. And if you look that over 500, you can take the maximum speed with a panorama from 12 years and above and will remain, I personally do not understand what this side is 500k. PS. Rights IMHO. And not impose.

308й nice! Equipment good. That's just the French and the machine...

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Lefffff 13.08.19

Who seeks shall find.

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b4rt-s 13.08.19

nalilord

yeah, I see you have the whole BJ is a continuous repair of this German.

well repair and basically write to-morrow if others helped, and he did not forget that as a Yes .
and so useful to do not write, I am lazy

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b4rt-s 13.08.19

bought this knew what they were doing ... it was originally cheaper th MNA market . what it should have done long ago hurts, right here Karabas basking in the serpentine, but it is decided ... MacLane dirty the radiator was overheated box of malso there is cooled

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nalilord 13.08.19

b4rt-s

Mercy... you have to buy because cars are either German or washing :) and what about the brand of machines you have to bet . here the choice is wide Mercedes BMW Audi :)))

yeah, I see you have the whole BJ is a continuous repair of this German.

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mabt 13.08.19

but not for that. first time for everything. :) :) :) :)

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b4rt-s 13.08.19

Thanks, signed up for the first Japanese-sedan :))) surprised myself :)

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mabt 13.08.19

I also like the 211 and 212 to choose and really there are plenty. congratulations on the birth of

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b4rt-s 13.08.19

In short there is plenty to choose from, if I had money, I wanted a w211 e320cdi Yes, there twins were born my son and daughter, and another problem came out — right now, not to the car, then buy it.

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mabt 13.08.19

but the way the Porsche is gorgeous. Panamera peripersonal sofa. cube also goes well off-road.

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b4rt-s 13.08.19

well here on the fan I Germans admit Mercedes BMW Audi Porsche ... everything. well SUVs, it's Japanese of course ... the Germans only the cube is ...

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mabt 13.08.19

agree comfort on top. Koreans, in principle, not considered. this is certainly a washing machine. like BMW, a little less Mereni.more of the Germans did not like it.

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b4rt-s 13.08.19

mabt

yeah, and chains are torn on the go! about have a washing machine. this before Meyrin had a hurricane-fire! now is not the same — planned fatigue their mother. also look eshku or cesku 8 years... but... sadness trouble...

and of course ... the same w211 6-9 years after restayl you can safely take the major shoals there fixed

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b4rt-s 13.08.19

could not agree more, I'm like a tractor :)) and a lover of diesel engines was surprised that the new 4l engines are prone to stretching the chain... most likely formirovanie fashion e250cdi for example
But the om642 v6 224 HP on w211 body great motor and it is able to move 500 thousand without any problems, and if the 5g tronica to find the car that this unit will go very very long.

In General, the situation is not so bad... there are countries where second-hand Mercedes is 40-50% of the fleet of the whole country +10% BMW... and a little bit of everything else and people love them and sometimes I go for 15 or more I have not a few of such examples. Still the comfort of my Mercedes new Korean or Japanese not master but if mastered it and the price is not cheap machine

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mabt 13.08.19

b4rt-s

Mercy... you have to buy because cars are either German or washing :) and what about the brand of machines you have to bet . here the choice is wide Mercedes BMW Audi :)))

yeah, and chains are torn on the go! about have a washing machine. this before Meyrin had a hurricane-fire! now is not the same — planned fatigue their mother. also look eshku or cesku 8 years... but... sadness trouble...

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b4rt-s 13.08.19

can't the Koreans ... I'm Korean just like Kia Cadenza and Genesis the rest is all garbage... but these machines are not cheap, they price fairly close to merc and BMW

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Sviar 13.08.19

Even BU a German, about 30 percent more expensive BU Korean! If for the same money, to take what the author wrote, the car will be 5 years older and of lower quality

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b4rt-s 13.08.19

so they're not so expensive :) what about the new not say of course

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Sviar 13.08.19

And you open a charity font, in support nemeckogo automotive industry, and add to the population to buy cars!)then I'm sure we are all happy to take on the Germans!

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b4rt-s 13.08.19

Mercy... you have to buy because cars are either German or washing :) and what about the brand of machines you have to bet . here the choice is wide Mercedes BMW Audi :)))

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KoTiOsiF 13.08.19

If I'm not mistaken Led it seems like the class? Or not?

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Alex-Obukhov 13.08.19

Super. To find such machines is a rare stroke of luck! Usually for that kind of money only firewood.

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nevergood 13.08.19

less than 500 Lacetti on the machine set at max. you can buy

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Makcimyc85 13.08.19

What to say who seeks will always find))))) well done!
Not advertising but could be more Elk to look, a lot of decent options for not much money and it's a great car for the city:)

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UmbertoKavalli 13.08.19

kropachev85

In Kirov go on the machine, no problems, and machine guns on Kia's pretty reliable. And I do not understand — there was a question 500 on the machine — what's to argue? Will be able to offer a car based on these criteria?

pikanto

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UmbertoKavalli 13.08.19

NightWarrior

Sometimes, just with the focus of 2 the analogy is painfully obvious. There are also all of the cover started, and then peel all, now have such instances occur! Leave Sid she just dyed bad? It's hard to understand why it is so. Sometimes the seam in bloom, there is clear but in the photo the ginger out in the open. On the subject of corrosion of fresh machines is not the first time I hit it. The same with Teana cap blooms. I do not dig, I'm really interested to understand why so locally, because of the salt load on the rear arches and wings too sickly.

was the same years, RIO is a ginger on the hood just appeared.

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Valeratal 13.08.19

I can't understand how the car C-class became a "little" :)

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Dorash56 13.08.19

these machines only need to take))

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nalilord 13.08.19

Well, these just need to send

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BLUESEAL 13.08.19

still adequate the seller got all signed up to go to check.Sometimes even that ride do not give or how schools will find the story begins with the tale-))

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Hardwalker 13.08.19

Sometimes it is better to keep silent about the future, about which nothing is known. NO one, no man on earth can say how much more is the car, okay ?
Love Korean women thin and insecure? That's your business.
And I don't want anything to show, I've seen enough of Korean crap. That of Koreii, Korean Assembly — may be worth something. But what we collect...well...it would be better not collected...

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artemka-p 13.08.19

Hardwalker

up to 100 thousand ride and sale. new loin do not go.

Want 3-year-old sid's show with run for 200 thousand, which is still the same like? Sometimes it is better to remain silent if in something do not understand

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Avtopoisk74 13.08.19

hahahahah

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Hardwalker 13.08.19

This is not so. Neither the Pelvis nor Kia is not worth the money at purchase, both brands overcharge. But unlike cues, the Pelvis can be repaired all the way, even 30 years on it, you can go, and the prices are always low, and always available, and Kia in the region of 100 thousand begins to crumble, and so can afford weird that it would be easier to sell it.

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Avtopoisk74 13.08.19

But the eternal game of tag. Once a year, digest all and went over and over again year ride.

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Hardwalker 13.08.19

up to 100 thousand ride and sale. new loin do not go.

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BrodyagaAl 13.08.19

Fixer042

I don't understand...why a robot is just bad ? Of course in magazines and on forums everywhere "is stupid, slow, not sporty riding and stuff"...went to jage the robot is fine, just the console the sport is now trying out for everything from viburnum (lack of sportiness like to write) to Amarok...

Hey Hey where is the sport in Amaroke?:)
There's a mode on the machine. While shield is nowhere...

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gin178rus 13.08.19

I went on obeliskom the robot, and vygovska, and here and there a kick when starting off and shifting into 2nd gear. In traffic if the neutral is not to put the clutch to the 70 thousands to replace

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Fixer042 13.08.19

unreliable and expensive to maintain — it can be about all to say. if gently press any kick will not. It dies of journalists from the magazine for the ruble

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gin178rus 13.08.19

Unreliable, expensive to maintain, requires constant adaptation. Well, he loves kicking me. If you take a new car, you and the robot, but b/a have much to think about

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Fixer042 13.08.19

I don't understand...why a robot is just bad ? Of course in magazines and on forums everywhere "is stupid, slow, not sporty riding and stuff"...went to jage the robot is fine, just the console the sport is now trying out for everything from viburnum (lack of sportiness like to write) to Amarok...

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Avtopoisk74 13.08.19

Prigoni SV. If ideally buy the same day

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xWilliamBlacKx 13.08.19

The 10th year of the 500r...) and I Bati rubbing that it more is not worth 12th year)) ST...

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Nervotrep 13.08.19

I agree!

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ViNSEJ9 13.08.19

Yes, not for the sake of argument, so chtop history not kaverkat =)

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Nervotrep 13.08.19

👍I will not argue!

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ViNSEJ9 13.08.19

No, it's not maximum speed.
Maximum speed is Prestige was. At least tidy Supervision, Parking sensors and native color, we can th more XS. He wanted Lux to take, but eventually took the Prestige at the price of the Suite =)
Oh, that's right: even the graphite casting 16 only in Prestige.

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Nervotrep 13.08.19

Luke goes to maximum speed... but they only in Europe do! So we can say that the maximum speed!

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saint 13.08.19

why premaxilla equipment ? climate zone 2 is, there are warmups, folding mirrors, too. And max then what else?
I bought the same 05.2014. happy with the car and the price then was 450, while looking for somewhere for a month, a lot of Perekrestov, even the roof.

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nalilord 13.08.19

To Amarok to sid and different approaches)

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BrodyagaAl 13.08.19

I even wonder how much my appreciate (with this approach, there is stone, there is a dent makes people) :)))
Chips on the hood a bunch, on the doors of almost no heap, there are grooves from careless Parking near (this is for those who Bang the door on the other car), scratches by itself (wood, branches, chips fly:)) in the body stains to the metal. Protection? Well, you understand. Painted? 2 parts + 1 OD (he accidentally found out, while driving cars...).
IT? of course the OD, everything. All calls criticism immediately repaired.
This is despite the fact that I try to keep track of your car in the rides do not kill and try to preserve...
No, I do not sell. I still have to roll and roll:)

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Malefica 13.08.19

Well, after the second accident I also understand that the bumper — it's the little things )) But when the machine is new, from each kotska heart falls out ))

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artemka-p 13.08.19

Malefica

I have the car a year, bumper — three scratches, just about to paint (I do my Swallow watching because!).But this post made me think, as well as two years later when selling me the buyers brain begins to peck: "And Choi then painted"?Che for shit pushing? )) At that bumper a bit, I just scraped it in the Parking lot, and then I stripped ))

The bumper is nonsense, and its thickness is not to break so. Look at the body in the first place, but painted bumper detail

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nalilord 13.08.19

it is better than nothing)

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Malefica 13.08.19

Well, the photo is not a guarantee, of course, for particularly picky and distrustful too, not gonna fly as proof ;))) But everyone amp case zafotografirovali military markings on the bumper ))

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nalilord 13.08.19

for such cases it is necessary to do a photo before and after painting, in order to show why painted.

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Malefica 13.08.19

I have the car a year, bumper — three scratches, just about to paint (I do my Swallow watching because!).But this post made me think, as well as two years later when selling me the buyers brain begins to peck: "And Choi then painted"?Che for shit pushing? )) At that bumper a bit, I just scraped it in the Parking lot, and then I stripped ))

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stasskrip 13.08.19

skated 5 years of doing this(though dorectal)-a good camera, all the time not had a single problem.

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kamall 13.08.19

We are for 510 mother-in-law took the Kia Venga 11 years, 55 mileage confirmed and book, and official, with a cap\climate\machine\bezrucovy access and so on. Full komplektaa, except panoramic roof. Before the sale took place THEN. Attachment — bought relatives wipers, even the old factory was 1300\PC )

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Irgit 13.08.19

Sell good sid on the machine))