Kia Sportage or Hyundai ix35. Selection and purchase.
Hi!
This time things were so: needed Sportazh or ix35 from 2011гв. There were specific requests for the color of the car, mileage should have been smaller and only first hand. At first, it was the search for the full drive, but on second thought, decided to look for a front-wheel drive. The car was needed solely for the city, so I decided not to overpay for all-wheel drive. The same preference was given to the mechanical transmission.
And so, the choice between a Kia and a Hyundai. By and large these machines are twin brothers on the technical side. As Solaris and Rio, Led and i30. Preferences here give, as a rule, only appearance – someone they like more. In my subjective opinion nicer Sportazh. In the Hyundai many people, me including, don't like the blue instrument lighting. Kia Sportazh very poor visibility through the rear window, but there is daytime running lights, for example, in contrast to the ix35 at the time. Te difference is in the details, ergonomics and trim, and not significant.
Both these machines have proven themselves very well, so they are willing to buy on the secondary market and these machines are very popular. This means that "sweet" sentences here very much, you see what I mean? The Koreans are cheaper in the Japanese, have a good set of options, even the basic package cannot be called empty. Moreover, guarantee for 5 years, albeit very limited – this is a very good marketing move by Korean manufacturers. People go on and this means that buying even a 3-4 year old car, you can expect that she will be with completed service book.
In General, decided to look for something that will be in the best condition. The first was Sportazh. The seller named Helen (say). Claimed mileage 28T km, 2012, excellent condition. Call. On the phone it turns out that the car can be viewed only in the evening, after work, that is, in the dark. Nothing was painted and not beat the service there. The story about the car either, that is, to everything is perfect! Honestly, I would not go to watch such a machine, be it far from me. But, the car was nearby, it is even possible to look and, really, if only very quickly. I think we need to take the risk!
Full sizeReally, the car was in excellent condition, without Perekrestov, chips and scuffs. The mileage on the odometer was km. 28001 On the steering wheel and seats cheap seat covers from date of purchase, however, under the blankets was all new. Wear the cabin did not exist, however, as to the body. Winter tires with minimal wear, the brake discs too. The downside was the smoky interior. Nothing more I could not see, and here's why.
I went to a woman with her daughter. I such a business, especially a daughter. "The machine is like new, this will not find, to the dealer for service did not go, I have a driving experience of 20 years, has its men in the service, they gave me all done," she said. In my reasonable question to look at the documents, I was sent straight to the traffic police, that she did not show wanted. No, STS has shown of course, but as soon as I was asked to photograph the back side where I needed numbers and letters, then immediately removed. "Why? Here is the machine I'm an owner, what more do you want, everything else after renewal," retorted she. No checks for the autocode, electronic diagnostics, and the offer to go to the service station, she said she's not going anywhere, that is, to never know her car will drop from the lift! And all this communication was accompanied by such vile and false a smile that I wanted to spit on it and forget. But the car is really good! The price tag is a bit expensive – 840тр. With full confidence in 2012 GW. I didn't have the glass ones, that is, the machine could be 2011гв, just bought 12. Well, okay, I decided to phone a couple of days to something to try to negotiate.
The next day I call her and ask when can I see the car with the buyer and, in case of positive outcome, to make a deal. "You know, I've daughter told that the machines has risen by 30tr..." — sang Madam. I interrupted and said we will consider it only at the original price. But, for myself, I realized that I need to look for another option, that with such women it is better not to have Affairs. And no one knows what's going on with the documents. In General, well, it nafig!
So forth were found ix35. And he also promised to be good. 2011гв, one owner, service book, repainted left rear wing. I found this out on the phone. The downside was that there was a summer tire according to the Manager, well, what's with the wing, it was necessary to investigate on the spot.
Full sizeThis time the inspection was very long, that the Manager left me alone and went about their business, and then, as I understand it, and completely forgot about me. Speaking of summer tires he lied to me, that it was in stock, but I had no complaints about it:)
Full sizeTwo tires lay in the cabin and two more in the trunk.
The color of the wing was, shall we say, insignificant. Repaired only arch of the wing, a piece of 10-15cm with putty and painted the wing is not entirely even, already just above the arch of the readings of the thickness gauge is almost to the factory.
Full sizeThe defects were: a couple chips, couple of scratches under polishing, sandblasting on the chrome grille:
Full sizeBut, in General, state machines are very good. Glass all relatives, the engine is dry, all the liquid in norm, stand as dry, brake rotors with little wear, everything that should work works.
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Full sizeThe cabin also all great. We can say that he without wear almost.
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Full sizeAdditionally installed on the machine rear Parktronic. Picking simple, but everything necessary is present:
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Full sizeAir conditioning, heated seats and quiet zones front wipers, aux & usb, all power Windows, armrest.
First owner with all THAT passed. There is also a certificate for a 5-year warranty. Expires 27.03.16 it, but nevertheless:)
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Full sizeThere you have it. The car with clear history first owner low mileage with one parakram, two sets of rubber, with a clean, not worn and not smoky interior, the most desirable for a customer in black, the Slovak Assembly, 2011гв for 795тр.
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Full sizeBetter it or is worse than Sportazh, which we decided to give up? I do not know. It simply allowed human being to see, was not allowed to see the documents, and then wanted to throw thirty to the price. How to buy this car? Daughter her you see said cars have gone up. Well, even more often listens to his daughter. And generally, always, when you buy or sell a car, you have a bunch of advisors. Except you know how to sell and buy a car. How not to sell – I would say that cheap for how much buy – say that expensive, but still need that broken and painted.
By the way, when my buyer came out from the cabin, having made a deal, this aunt called me, asking when we get to buy her car. But it was too late, like last time with the Sorento. I did not mean to her, or learn to properly sell cars, I think that the insights she will. Just politely told her that we bought another car and explained the reasons. Aunt also did not show off, we wished each other luck and said goodbye. It is the market and there is no right and wrong. Do not want – do not buy, do not want – do not sell. I adhere to the thought that if something did not grow together, or took the car from under the nose, so it was not my car, no need to worry about it, you just need to find another one.
Also on the topic of the blog:
Good Kia Led, which is not bought. The New Skoda Rapid.
You do not move out. Where is the first you suffered. We are talking about tests which were carried out in 2013. not those that are available now. Now, and Hyundai's all GOOD! Buy now for 795000 car 2016goda!
About the Wrangler is better to be silent. www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings.../class-summary/small-suvs And do not continue to tell their tales which is a 2 door версия...www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings.../wrangler-4-door-suv/2016 where is Good? or do you only watch the Small overlap front and the rest of the tests this is not a bucket? and Yes it is the same Marginal top security!
Everything is clear with you. I'm not saying ix35 best car, it I personally do not like, but do not tell this bucket. The Kuga is also a bucket? X1 and Tiguan almost a bucket?
No tales. Just the facts.
1. Where is the majority?
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Cm. my original expression:"At the moment, so do most of the cars on a positive evaluation of the test runs". It is, in principle, on all machines that pass this test today. And so it is. Can't believe I bet. Prove separately.
And about the change of generation ix35 can not tell it is the same upgrade!
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This change of generation.
5 or what? and that two in three 14 and 15 year upgraded
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At the moment, from the list of 14 vehicles have a positive rating and only 3 negative, and of these 3 only 2 poor.
For the Wrangler, I generally keep quiet!
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And rightly so, because he Good 
Just broke only updates 5 door modification (greedy apparently). But obviously, 3 updated test pass is not worse, i.e. Good. By the way, even before the modernization of Wrangler had no catastrophic deformation.
You don't rely on the facts, and frankly to one specific car clung, broaden horizons ix35 is not alone he is not a small company like you say buckets are from each other not far away!
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Well, first, as you can see, the facts. Second, the "clung" by the fact that in your post talking about him. Third, the company already small. Fourth, the same bucket. Fifth, it makes no sense to take such a bucket now (and in ' 11, too).
Supchikkkk
Well, first, even among you named machines from IX35 is one of the most catastrophic deformations and assessment of the poor to do the same.
Second, many of these were eventually upgraded to the point that passed the test perfectly, and this CX5, Wrangler, CR-V, Mokka, etc...
At the moment, so do most of the cars on a positive evaluation of the test passes. And where is the exaggeration? He doesn't hold the kick completely. There were other cars, not very pass, but so crushed... It's one of the worst results among the worst.
With the rigidity of the body it also problems.
The question is, what for to take unsafe nedobrovolnou, needyou and a lot more significant shortcomings of the car?
What you are telling tales! Look carefully, I have listed only 5 machines upgraded to a positive rating! For the Wrangler, I generally keep quiet! it is this test, and 13 passed for two others failed! Where is the majority? 5 or what? and that two in three 14 and 15 year upgraded. And about the change of generation ix35 can not tell it is the same upgrade!
You don't rely on the facts, and frankly to one specific car clung, broaden horizons ix35 is not alone he is not a small company like you say buckets are from each other not far away!
16 year is a different generation machine. I mean, that makes no sense to take such a bucket now (and in ' 11, too).
Bit. Just stating the facts and draw conclusions.
Well, at 16 that is not so?All tests are good. www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings.../class-summary/small-suvs What do you say about this? You just have a biased attitude to the car!
Well, firstly you're not just "by eye" look, open the report detailed. Merginal not poor it is not just worth it. Secondly, why to be the worst? If there is more worthy of the last test of the car? And what is the exaggeration? In a squalid back of a Hyundai, which is neither torsion nor kick does not hold?
For its time it was not normal. 2 for the crash test and the strongest deformation was not normal even in year 11, not to mention the fact that it makes no sense to take such a bucket in ' 16
Thanks for the info. I agree it is useful. But we are talking about cars 11года, and those who upgraded and then later, one in 14 who 15 , who is in 16g.(ix35 in 16g. also everything went great), and who have not upgraded until now! And looking at the damage to the Mazda's they are not much different(in appearance) of 35, although unee assessment Marginal! So I'm talking about exaggeration. I just would not be so categorical! The other tests passed the car, although there is, with the worst results! So it's normal for a car of its time and for the cost.
Well, first, even among you named machines from IX35 is one of the most catastrophic deformations and assessment of the poor to do the same.
Second, many of these were eventually upgraded to the point that passed the test perfectly, and this CX5, Wrangler, CR-V, Mokka, etc...
At the moment, so do most of the cars on a positive evaluation of the test passes. And where is the exaggeration? He doesn't hold the kick completely. There were other cars, not very pass, but so crushed... It's one of the worst results among the worst.
With the rigidity of the body it also problems.
The question is, what for to take unsafe nedobrovolnou, needyou and a lot more significant shortcomings of the car?
Nissan Qashqai, Jeep Wrangler, BMW X1, Opell Mokka, Ford Escape, Honda CR-V, Mazda CX-5, Volkswagen Tiguan and Jeep Patriot also failed this test, of the 15 only 2 crossovers! passed. So no need to exaggerate! By your logic, you need to take or Subaru Forester or Mitsubishi Outlander Sport? all the rest are not machines?
I see no reason to read, for the purchase of these machines is not a good idea. Again, you know about the "strength" of the body ix35?
Did you even read the post? Of course all-wheel drive it runs bad...
Because he's NOT here!
Neither one nor the other... You know what's ix35 safety, body rigidity and how "perfect" works full drive?
In mid-2014. chose a car for his wife, as comparing Kia and Hyundai. The second was much more interesting, especially the cabin. At that time, he has undergone a restyling and has become cuter.
Today, we continue to drive this car, the replacement was looked after Finance is not enough.
In General, normal cars of the downsides for me is hard and short-stroke suspension and closing doors, not slam slam, but the effort is sometimes not enough. You also need prinorovilsya to bring the high leg when landing to not stain clothes and threshold.
The feeling from the car the positive: it seems that the car is indestructible, feel confident, including due to the high landing. Continue operation.
I'm happy for the man! Congratulations on the purchase, ezdy and not have anyone look, great machine!
Alexx775SM
My mom on the focus 2009, about 40 mileage))) Lucky to someone. And I have about 22 in the year of the wind.
the wife ay 30, also 44 mileage, and the car is 10 year, then try another to prove that it is not twisted))))
G73
Yes, of course 43 thousand
Very little, less than 10 thousand a year. I have 25, but damn!
My mom on the focus 2009, about 40 mileage))) Lucky to someone. And I have about 22 in the year of the wind.
"I adhere to the thought that if something did not grow together, or took the car from under the nose, so it was not my car, no need to worry about it, you just need to find another one." Golden words! I'm five years ago this truth for myself learned) Now the paradox — could not afford to buy any Sooo the truck, because the buyer refused to sell the installment per month Well in any! (I had on hand 230, and he wanted 260), by the time I'm on this machine hunted for six months, through the day, psihanuv bought Valday (work it!), and in the evening he calls and says I agree... almost made me cry... So, this car was never sold to him. More than a year already according to the ad walking — probably waiting for me...
You're just about Sportage wrote he was not sure of the year, STS showed so I asked to immediately read run your title looked
Belka001
Kia is much better, the suspension is softer, Hyundai unbearably hard. Salon Kia is much higher. The quality of materials, design, ergonomics. The Hyundai plastic like in 2109. Well, on the exterior of the machine, as they say on taste and color!
when you consider that the machines are technically absolutely identical (motor, box, suspension) — this is nonsense))))
Belka001
Kia is much better, the suspension is softer, Hyundai unbearably hard. Salon Kia is much higher. The quality of materials, design, ergonomics. The Hyundai plastic like in 2109. Well, on the exterior of the machine, as they say on taste and color!
strange, considering that hyundia now one office.
Kia is much better, the suspension is softer, Hyundai unbearably hard. Salon Kia is much higher. The quality of materials, design, ergonomics. The Hyundai plastic like in 2109. Well, on the exterior of the machine, as they say on taste and color!
don't need the ass with a finger to compare.
talking about crossover-wheel-drive and neprivodimykh.
odd primitive as it is) you're the owner of a BMW will not fit and will not say it is better to be than to seem, it is rear-wheel drive)))
anyone who buys a front-drive crossover-I want to feel and not to be.
they are probably still on the beach cucumber shoved in trunks.
"Everyone except you know how to sell and buy a car. How not to sell – I would say that cheap for how much buy – say that expensive, but still need that broken and painted." — That is so true)))
Golovin13
Handsome! One does not understand in people, why to city crossover with all-wheel drive to want))).
So the inhabitant of Stavropol do not understand. I also spring-summer-autumn pusateri ride — troubles do not know.But every winter about sneakers thoughts stronger and stronger pressure on the brain.At least front-wheel drive, but very often you need and complete, at least as crappy as sneakers.
Southerner I do not understand))). You have in the MSC in case of an emergency, the hotel was excellent!
Golovin13
Handsome! One does not understand in people, why to city crossover with all-wheel drive to want))).
in the MSC you know, snow in winter sometimes. And it happens that it is removed so that the crossover will not pass, and prepared jeep on the bridge will sit.
well, as in all Russian cities in the spring the asphalt floats. probably in the sewers... because the rule is the higher the better + 4 the leading better of the two works in many places...
Not with every motor on the crossover with all-wheel drive with a traffic light you can tear! But the barbecue — Yes)).
Golovin13
Handsome! One does not understand in people, why to city crossover with all-wheel drive to want))).
To traffic light tear (does not happen the same with the rear). Snow and not slip. Well, "a barbecue to get out"
rain99
City are different.
In Yekaterinburg, an asphalt highway can go into offroad. Where people leave the bumper and punched the wheel.
So if you want to go and not to cling to the bottom ---> or liftwell car, or SUV you buy.
And this 3-4 times a year. One million fucking the third city of Russia
but probably a little understated prior. for them there is difficult to survive. :)
Golovin13
To get. We have in Stavropol the normal way. I'm in the Ryazan region to work here, too, tin.
I Alrod Audi A4 like it) ))
You have it in Ryazhsk was not... the Ryazan region.
Superimposition bleach blazeski — that's what it's time to introduce rastrel as the deliberate damage of a road cloth and movable property of citizens.
One word Ural.
Not only that, through the freezing point takes place throughout the spring (day rain and +3C at night-5C) then the asphalt just off the road.
But Parking at airport Koltsovo, pancake air gate of the country.
To get. We have in Stavropol the normal way. I'm in the Ryazan region to work here, too, tin.
I Alrod Audi A4 like it) ))
Golovin13
Handsome! One does not understand in people, why to city crossover with all-wheel drive to want))).
City are different.
In Yekaterinburg, an asphalt highway can go into offroad. Where people leave the bumper and punched the wheel.
So if you want to go and not to cling to the bottom ---> or liftwell car, or SUV you buy.
And this 3-4 times a year. One million fucking the third city of Russia
Then the question should be put differently — why for city crossover at all? On the curb to climb? So it is not correct. And there's nothing in it.
Handsome! One does not understand in people, why to city crossover with all-wheel drive to want))).
DmitryTh
For the same price you can get a rapid new.
A Lada how much!Own fleet!
It may mean that the size of the machine is more that its more prestigious manufacturer that materials used are of higher quality that she has more sophisticated technical features that it has a thoughtful design and ergonomics. Sportig ideology is more inclined to like the Lexus RX400, while rapid this car is B class on the basis of the fol'ksa Polo that I have personally not associated with quality of movement, rather credit commitments, potatoes in the trunk well and all of that.
Always wondered what does "a class above". Prodavci usually bleat something like "a size bigger". So, rapid to place beats these your crossover.
DmitryTh
For the same price you can get a rapid new.
Rapid like on a pair of classes below. You can take 2 new grants yet.
Last year sold the same configuration with mileage 65тыс for 860.where expensive?
what blavatskoi Assembly ? Czech Republic manufacturer of the car, and you bought an expensive car .
if you purchase sit behind the wheel of a car that is the inner voice that tells you, this is your machine or not excitement what is breaking out in the first, the second minute it means it's not yours, if peace of mind while driving your something like this!
The Kia cars are quite common (often seen on this stamp than on the other) glass is different from the year of the car. I have a Cerato '14, glass '13th. And about what is best... As for me, Solaris is interesting Rio, and ay x 35 interesting Sportika.
Well as you all describe, I read avidly)) Thank you for writing so interesting.
Yes, aunt such tuporylye there that want to kill. One on the phone asked about the strange button in the photo under the steering wheel, like maybe some kind of optional equipment. She snapped and threw the phone.
Tell me how proffi. I have a scratch (what is the bitch the key or nail) from the front headlights to the rear. Paint is native everywhere. The scratchy smeared with a thin brush. Here I am afraid that there will be many questions why half of the car repainted. Or is it better to paint?
And posts about sportazh will be? I also have a 2011 release.
Remember how the car was driven in service to a friend mechanic, he looks it and I'm trying to find the catch:
— drowned — ask ?
— can a designer?
— and what else?
In General, none of the things that I warn you before buying a car.
Be careful and good luck to all!
ahah) my daughter, like her mom). a typical case of female logic!).there was a similar case)... .now has never buy and\m from aunts)... usually killed hadovka and salon Uelen so . chem-cleaning with no strong !). not all of course. . % so 85. .
I my Honda bought two years ago. The girl also business, to drive does not, the computer cannot be connected, even a dipstick to pull out was not allowed, began to shout, You are my car will break.
On the other hand, it must be understood there are all kinds of morons who will come to watch, something will break, or the car will hit, turn around and leave.
But as the car really was in the ideal with mileage 46 000 km. had to endure))) No regrets)