An outlet for the exemplary family man

handling any minivan can compare with universal, which build on a sedan
and generally the fashion in the minivan was invented by the Americans, with their tendency to excess weight . one sedan( or wagon) perfectly fits a family of 5 people, and if they don't eat too much junk food :-)

Boring set. When I chose, I realized that the best touring is the minivan. Universal it's kind of polupoker, and not a sedan and not a minivan. betwixt.

MadSaray

they all say that, but regular tablets of the piston, with rings, brought a Manager Vaga to the thickness of the blade can not withstand a reinforced turbine, not personally for me to ride on a powder keg.And so forth, with the songs ))
And prove that the earth was round, there is compelling evidence besides Wikipedia and fotomodelki NASA ? ;)

my St3... the engine in the runoff. only the intake/release. a little more turbine and the program under it. and that's all.
forging the engine is already under Garrett's there or LOBA 500, etc

MadSaray

they all say that, but regular tablets of the piston, with rings, brought a Manager Vaga to the thickness of the blade can not withstand a reinforced turbine, not personally for me to ride on a powder keg.And so forth, with the songs ))
And prove that the earth was round, there is compelling evidence besides Wikipedia and fotomodelki NASA ? ;)

Yes, all it endures, generally replace the turbo ( if SS turbo IHI) is light for Vaga ( saw one car which fell to 140 thousand km, and the fault of greba quite a different series) installing the k04 here is article 3( not at all) and if soup does not blow davolno for a long time they move, but for article 4 ( Garik, etc.) there is no forged bottom not do 400-500 forces required. Generally VAG davolno simple for downstroke and not so gamorean as it seems, you just have to take a new and necessary years, and to serve correctly and on time!

shtirlitz74

Go for k04 people of one hundred thousand km and motors in excellent condition. Forging this is the next step)
Regarding the shape of the earth say the devices. Gravity — our weight in different spots))

+1

Duc to give more horses and torque to the road surface, 1значно need something more heat, and more, in unit time.And not just to heat )

MadSaray

the hundreds of thousands on a St3 ? )) distribute links, who actually drove it so much on the stock piston ) they at the station 0, collapse)))

You're right, do not go. Full of examples with a welded piston and raped by shock loads the crank. Even as you adjust the mixture, from the physics of the thermal regime does not go away.

MadSaray

the hundreds of thousands on a St3 ? )) distribute links, who actually drove it so much on the stock piston ) they at the station 0, collapse)))

www.drive2.ru/r/skoda/567964/

-)))))

In Krivorukov all falls apart.

the hundreds of thousands on a St3 ? )) distribute links, who actually drove it so much on the stock piston ) they at the station 0, collapse)))

Go for k04 people of one hundred thousand km and motors in excellent condition. Forging this is the next step)
Regarding the shape of the earth say the devices. Gravity — our weight in different spots))

they all say that, but regular tablets of the piston, with rings, brought a Manager Vaga to the thickness of the blade can not withstand a reinforced turbine, not personally for me to ride on a powder keg.And so forth, with the songs ))
And prove that the earth was round, there is compelling evidence besides Wikipedia and fotomodelki NASA ? ;)

Not) Well I tell you that the Earth is round...)

not needed?))) then no Bueno on contract )

Don't need forging. Just turbine, intake, release, sack and firmware)

in the motor is forged, and she is necessary in connection with replacement of the turbine, and this is a St3

The motor without modifications

ST2+ is not quite cheap, this basket already, and cooler advanced, and more Nintendo relevant.And St3 is the replacement of the turbines if I'm not mistaken, and again perekopivka.

But a 1.8 with a penny change

native, but not the same stock.Not stock.

Motor native. Only the impeller is different. From 2 liter.

how to understand the stock, but on CT2+ ?=))
feature bahovskoj chipovka, it's just the cooler takes out 100 to 200+ to hundreds of verse he brought

SS 1.8!) At that time approximately 270 forces. Subar ' and 2.5 liters and 300 HP. The Passat stock motor, though, and for ST2+.

shtirlitz74

You just do not sharish) Subaru is a race! Here is the video of the last Verse 300 HP and Passat CC 1,8 ST2... in Short, race the all-wheel drive and a juice box on the front. The sofa, basically)

the SS aerodynamics + cooler increased immediately obvious was taken.

Article 1 Yes

This shed is also all-wheel drive... And 5.1 to hundreds.

Analog RS Skoda is the correct drive and gearbox

He is not charged)

A4 avant 249 HP

For the same price?) 2-3 times a difference...

shtirlitz74

And who else has a loaded wagon?

AUDI!

Still modify a file.

I have lived with family for 10 days and now texting .New year congratulate each other at the first opportunity And again to him will go . Very good people. he's that car in that year, I bought — maybe the previous owner is the man. and his mom is alive and well felt — sells flowers.
Here they are

It is clear to Us...he introduced himself as hvicha. And was told that the mother of his 90 years with horseradish. He's the only one with this Opel. Juliet with her son at all ugarayu))

do not understand what Hwic? Ovakim his name . wife Juliet they have someone on born or to be born,

Valerii843

I liked the Opel Zafira when we first got to sea last year and us, the owner drove the Ritz diesel cheap he then took over 250 000 but roomy camera

Damn, well it hwich you've ever seen! How much he told you his mom? He could not tell)) On that lie and he got burned, as different figures all called.

Yeah, so we rolled the previous owner of the Opel)

Kompakten! auto.ru/catalog/cars/seat...318242-40974§ion=used

This van)

shtirlitz74

And who else has a loaded wagon?

I have!

tarkuss

Not this car going so fast. Lies.

the Yeti and also the type of barn. and you can drive... 0-100 in less than 5sec.
www.drive2.ru/r/skoda/567964/

Morons is not a visionary:). Perhaps the only Amer has a pain-men the potential for tuning, which will allow them to go and for a long time. And then you have shafts, pistons, connecting rods to souped up change with the replacement of the braking system. Local idiots where I believe that it is sufficient to alter the management program drygatel and voila — you have a Cayenne:), not Sandro.

tarkuss

You want to say that this car rides as 911 and even better?:) Konesh know better. Here you Drive a lot of dreamers:).

The drive is crowded with dreamers. Especially of the discharge: 1.8 TFSI + Revo + k04 and it turned out almost Koenigsegg. True, there are pragmatists who demonstrate a welded pistons and valve sipahiya mechatronics and many other things after these dermansky gadgets and write about that if you want 4.5 seconds. Yes, for this to work, without the deep evisceration of the units can not do. In short different people.

Full of examples, measured by telemetry. But this is the best results. On average, of course, slower. 4,5 usually at St3.

You want to say that this car rides as 911 and even better?:) Konesh know better. Here you Drive a lot of dreamers:).

Well, you know better)

Not this car going so fast. Lies.

To laugh is good, they say prolongs life) to Drive I see acceleration to 100 in 4.1-4.3 seconds, wouldn't you agree that it can be called "drive"?) www.drive2.ru/l/7252518/

Read smeyalso:).You see, the definition of "drive"?:)

snaiper74

Family car for large families! What is the number loaded, turbo and acceleration to a hundred in 5sec? First and foremost is the comfort, capacity, safety and efficiency.

Which family car with character! May the whole family of the sea take comfort, and when one, from the heart to drive! Universal mix!

cobra35

I fitrec want the same Golf R but cheaper and ven

Nonsense)

Information from people who ride on the new diesels.I'm already the fourth person to hear about the problems with the injectors. Runs and quite funny(20-50 t/km). The displacement engines of around 1.4-1.6 L, I have 115 HP on "only" 1.9 L. At a friend's 90 HP, engine capacity as mine, the cost 1l more. the engine was a real 750 t km, has not yet moved. Believe it or not.

sborbobr

New Alhambra skated on the test drive, really not much! Cars from 2000 to 2009 was done better. "Swimming" in turn, the interior is designed without taking into account fully retractable seats(they're only fold into the floor and get dirty about it sometimes), Russia was only besinci with a gun. The 1.4-litre engines, with uprated engines(i.e. minichannel lifespan). Very whimsical to quality of fuel. A lot of useless stuffed with different electronics, Steklarna roof all killed, okay it was just Luke. With my height and weight hard to climb in the driver's seat(in free!), ground clearance is obviously small — 12 cm vs. 18 I have now. To be honest not impressed, and at that time I had the money and desire to buy a new car.

And it is possible more in detail from where the information about the "Very whimsical to quality of fuel" and what is in your opinion the extra electronics?

mixa-audi

2.6 I 150 LITTLE. ))))

Because this bucket is not going a damn)

DrHouse

Yeah, well, garbage not a machine)

well, Yes, sadly)))

There is a little bit)

Strange to see this from the owner of frita) sarcasm?)

ZNDZ

Most of all I love the seat of Freetrack with article 3... when you're on your family Microfine trolls that X5 and Kenny =)

Yeah, well, garbage not a machine)

jenique

There CT1 enough, what would 90% of the traffic to drop, and even mother-in-law to sit in the back with a Dachshund could easily)

Nonsense)

RS6 dream)

Personally, my choice of the Subaru Legacy 2.0 DIT in the effluent 300лс.
In General, IMHO the top of this niche Audi with their numerous wagons

Severed

there are still budget XV :)

Wow budget )))

and I said something about the budget?

But the Golf R is the type of cheap car?

Alexandr260268

2015 audi s6 avant probably will be better. My opinion

seems to me you are the class of car was wrong a bit)

and more

2015 audi s6 avant probably will be better. My opinion

antares-se

Why hot shed for the city? Is Moscow so fast traffic without 250лс will not arrive in time? I 190лс 400nm and I would be quite a bargain 25% in favor of less consumption.

I have a 140 horsepower 1.8 consumption average was 11 to 13 liters. 230 strong 2.5 consumption average... 11-13.

Quote from the article:
>> In the city you need something more compact, comfortable, but, preferably, faster and more efficient.
So I think what if the same 2.0 TDI 150hp in my last A3 was missing including on the autobahn) or the author of the article spoke about those who goes to the track regularly?

And where does the city? Took the wife and kids to the cottage, and then went straight to the track, where the Golf R and the seat of St feel great.

And during the week on them you can calmly go to work.

Why hot shed for the city? Is Moscow so fast traffic without 250лс will not arrive in time? I 190лс 400nm and I would be quite a bargain 25% in favor of less consumption.

I'm not talking about the new GTR35, and about the old GTR32, GTR33 and GTR34.
While Odyssey LHD completely different, compare it to 2004, and contemporary left-hand drive...

2.4 only pruli?

I'm not talking about 35.

SIMych

I like Odysseus. But they have one huge minus — right wheel(((

actually levy also have

Octavia or Golf, but we only have Octavia, and probably you can buy :(

KirillDmitriev

pointless car, this body type usually do not take family men, and those who in life have had enough, will download the trunk and vomiting in the right lane on the autobahn is these cars makes no sense to put powerful engines and paying for them a huge insurance such take only diesels are so economical
even if you take the professional racers who have universal for seedlings, it is the most economical car, because the drive still can't play with, it is better to buy a simple universal, but for the money saved to buy a viburnum with a frame and trailer, ride on racing and there off in full

Such a body take smart people who understand that they do not need to carry a ton of extra iron in the form of "crossover", but they need to carry bulky items — like work (not all white collar too!), and the family court — if you have two kids, the station wagon is a necessity.

No one says that they will vomit vegetables.

Two cars contain (for business and the soul) is not always possible and meaning.

KirillDmitriev

pointless car, this body type usually do not take family men, and those who in life have had enough, will download the trunk and vomiting in the right lane on the autobahn is these cars makes no sense to put powerful engines and paying for them a huge insurance such take only diesels are so economical
even if you take the professional racers who have universal for seedlings, it is the most economical car, because the drive still can't play with, it is better to buy a simple universal, but for the money saved to buy a viburnum with a frame and trailer, ride on racing and there off in full

I think the choice to leave every your.
someone like that.
the meaning or lack thereof, understands only the owner. taking into account their preferences, compromise.and surprise the world after the trivial savagery 80/90's and matured in the era of materialovedenija$))) become apparent in the abrupt change of the choice of freedoms in terms of household purposes.
(damn.what I have written under the Muse)_)

Vadim-K

Audi RS6, apparently, also technology buy, following this logic )))))

One can see that in Europe there are very rarely or never. In Austria universal — the most popular body type. Similarly in the mountainous regions of Germany, France and Italy — over 80% — rounders. Well, sales statistics if you look at station wagons in General across Europe — leaders :)

100% he was not in Europe)

now I do not know, and 6 years ago, according to statistics, in universals about 43% of sales were

KirillDmitriev

pointless car, this body type usually do not take family men, and those who in life have had enough, will download the trunk and vomiting in the right lane on the autobahn is these cars makes no sense to put powerful engines and paying for them a huge insurance such take only diesels are so economical
even if you take the professional racers who have universal for seedlings, it is the most economical car, because the drive still can't play with, it is better to buy a simple universal, but for the money saved to buy a viburnum with a frame and trailer, ride on racing and there off in full

Audi RS6, apparently, also technology buy, following this logic )))))

One can see that in Europe there are very rarely or never. In Austria universal — the most popular body type. Similarly in the mountainous regions of Germany, France and Italy — over 80% — rounders. Well, sales statistics if you look at station wagons in General across Europe — leaders :)

Yes, now there are diesel engines which are for 5.5 sec to hundreds of dispersed
I would only take diesel

pointless car, this body type usually do not take family men, and those who in life have had enough, will download the trunk and vomiting in the right lane on the autobahn is these cars makes no sense to put powerful engines and paying for them a huge insurance such take only diesels are so economical
even if you take the professional racers who have universal for seedlings, it is the most economical car, because the drive still can't play with, it is better to buy a simple universal, but for the money saved to buy a viburnum with a frame and trailer, ride on racing and there off in full

M5 E61

read as: from the heart to =)

No credit.

brickk

few of them sold. Really a little. Wang, the people taste did not. And the consumption of gasoline was not sour. She weighed 1.8 tons. A diesel on the dynamics of sad. I eventually scared away the dynamics. And so thought to take.
The ratio of meat-size (although the ventilation units under the seats order interfere when the rear sitting, feet under the front Sidhu does not fit)))) all-wheel drive and ground clearance — analogues were not. but 2.0 T 250 forces with the dynamics of 9 I was scared. This with consumption under 20 if the pedal is active. Otherwise, how actively, with such a dynamic I would and could not.

>>> but the 2.0 T 250 forces with the dynamics of 9 I was scared.

And you decided to buy a Renault, which is now actively pushing for? 😁

Toyota kaldina GTT 240 the body in the drain, a real bullet! reliable Japanese compromise, for little money.

sheds rule )))

really vans

Interesting review)

Generally in Europe, not only in Germany, namely in Europe hot Audi's Avanti rule.
Auto that the survey also found but not as often.
Therefore, from a cognitive point of view, the review is good but not complete.
On really popular powerful sheds a single word.
Waiting for additions.

Of course, Dodge has already scored :D this niche

Looking for a just the version in the description. Family, but bringing down a great and economical... found. Car in proifle. The A6 Avant

it is strange that no mention about Avanti from Audi ... more Passat altrak the Outback and do a lot of things not written.
seat liked.

Fasting certainly incomplete without a mention of the insane RS6

And BMW and Mercedes where?

Benz would...

Logan's take))