Stereotypes about American cars — why it's not as bad as you think.
Full sizeI had a lot of different American cars — passenger cars, SUVs, and trucks. It was not only muscle and sports cars, but I really hope that it all ahead. Any car from the USA always arrived with a decent amount of friends, acquaintances and just random people that attacked me with a bunch of ridiculous questions and assumptions. Of course, all the existing stereotypes about the American cars have some kind of rationale and the real facts — which are piled a wild amount of magical nonsense in the spirit of investigations NTV. Offhand I remembered seven of the most common and I want to tell you why it's not as bad (and sometimes even very good).
"They're all broken"
Before the car will be allowed to export its mandatory hit (head-on collision with a truck bonnet + side with a millennial Sequoia at least), turn over and drown in the swamp. Optionally, prior to loading into the container it is put in the way of a pack of stampeding Buffalo, and of the container to drop too, is not superfluous. Now that I've confirmed all the worst suspicions impressionable audience, you go to the actual facts for the rest of the audience that does not accept on faith the content of sensational shows about idolatria. No one denies the existence of auctions Copart and Insurance Auto, dump uncle Smith in the wilds of Texas and necromancers-lovers, with varying degrees of success engaged in the resurrection of the past the fire, water and steel grip press stuff. But it is worth remembering that in Europe and Russia is also a hit machine, and just restore and sell. Not every car from the USA is broken, and not any machine from any other market — are safe. Unbelievable, but true.
"They burn fuel faster than it flows into the tank at the gas station"
I will not lie, 6.2 Vortec uses a lot of fuel. And 5.7 Hemi. It should be noted that "a lot" in this context is about 20 liters per hundred, but not 40 or even 60 (and I've heard such suggestions, and no, these people were not under the influence of hallucinogenic drugs). It is worth noting that the five-liter Mercedes or BMW is no more economical. And to compare chetyrehjadernyj V8 with three-liter diesel "goodbye youth" is at least strange. By the way, the voracious engine that I have ever had — Toyota 5.7 iForce. It seemed to me that if it to remove and carry to the basement, and there he will destroy the gasoline tons. Just hell and Pakistan some. Yes, in the us market volume a lot of powerful motors, but there is also a two-liter turbo inline-four, the same three-liter diesel and even the box with the number of stages, seeking into space. Everyone will find something to taste, it would wish. And a nice bonus for Russian consumers, American cars are much less sensitive to fuel quality than European and Japanese competitors.
"They have poor quality build"
This statement can be a long debate, to argue, to argue, to get personal and insulting effect, and anyway, everyone remains at the. Much more interesting to debate with those who say "I'm not buying ML W164/X5 E70 from America, the American Assembly sucks, and European — fire." These models, like many others, was going in America. And time the American build sucks, your ML from Germany sucks as bad as America. Although I've met a particularly stubborn trying to prove that the European market is harvested efficiently, and here in the us (in the same factory!) anyhow. Especially the nuts not spinning, not otherwise. I have for many years of operation American auto untwisted nuts are not met. And not because I was looking for.
"They have poor interior and equipment"
I admit, my first car — a convertible Chrysler Sebring 2002 issue — definitely would not have taken the award for "Automotive interior of the year". Neither the 2002 or even 1992. And from the options he is pleased only with air conditioning, leather interior and very creaky roof The roof was treated by tightening the bolts on the latches at the windshield — but not for long. But some of the same Almera model years also will not amaze wealth set. And German cars (not from the premium category of course) for the most part empty as a drum. Curiously, each of the first enemy of the American cars I've heard of the ubiquitous "hard plastic". Didn't realize you are sleeping on it or what? And if we talk about premium Cadillac 2007 was absolutely crammed with space at the time options (automatic far, seats, home electric thresholds) and the interiors they have objectively cool. In the top of the interiors of American cars are inferior is that Porsche, and the number of different pleasant things can surpass. Pre-apologize to fans of Toyotas — but in my opinion with the wretchedness of their salons can compete only salons Subaru. Dvojcatka its interior really drove me into depression, and indeed the Outback. Even the old REM could do that, too, though not distinguished by elegance of design solutions.
"This is unmanaged walkie carts"
Yes, for the most part American cars are soft and definitely not tuned for the track. But when choosing between a Polo and a Corolla, hardly think about how to try at the Nurburgring, as well? And Prado there is also not the rider. American cars are very cool to go far on the highway — moderately soft, stock power is good and they are always very comfortable seats. Fly over 200 Panamera on the autobahn of course enjoyable, but it and the Panamera. Attempt to perform the same thing on the Q7 will result in the understanding that after 160 not all wheels at the same time cling to the asphalt. I mean, what's not in America, and in that each machine performs its functions. If you need to comfortably move on the roads of common use — the US automotive market will provide a huge number of decent options. And by the way in terms of the daily operation rulyatsya they are no worse than its direct competitors. Well, if you need an analogue M5 Cadillac CTS-V ready to argue who is steeper. Viper ASR is at the top of the list of most fastest cars of the Nurburgring, a little above the last of the Corvette and 911. There are plenty to choose from.
"Americans do not follow the machines"
I am now about all these blood-curdling stories about what the Americans polls poured into the motors of their cars mineral (optional: waste) oil do not call in for service, while all will not fall off (when off, sell the car in Russia) and generally disregard the condition of the iron horse. Of course, there are such instances, as well, and cars from Europe "under the Turk" and killed the local carts (in Russia, too, for someone to sell mineral oil — surprise!). But in any case it is not a universal phenomenon and is more about all the medicine buckets "slaughter" of the American heartland. Most of the cars purchased in leasing, and quite often the cost of maintenance is included in the payment — the owner simply has no chance to run the car. And services check vehicle history will allow you to learn not only about the possible disaster of the past instance, but will show a full service history. Transparent buy than a car from America, it is difficult to imagine.
"They are difficult to maintain and there is no spare parts"
Yes, with some purely American exotics will not go to the dealer and Yes, parts are on order. But if you make a habit of keeping a small stock of consumables and to find a service where you know what car and which side to approach her (and by the way not every imprint is one of them, sadly aware of), there are no problems with the maintenance of the American car is. The more that my experience with official dealers showed that with any car you have to go past them. Once went to a Mercedes dealer, they kept the car for two days, the problem is not found to have billed for cleaning. Dealer Ford bravely tried to change the oil in the rear axle in the Aviator (full analog officially sold we have Internet Explorer) — kept the car for two days, "sorry, not mastered", billed for the sink. Thank you of course, but at the sink I can go closer to the house, and wash better, faster and cheaper. The same official is not found in their stock transmission Mercon LV, because the oil in the box from the Explorer filled for lifetime and they have no need for it. I wonder what they do in the cases when it is necessary to merge during repair works — probably solemnly roll out the car in the back yard and burned. Short with official I (and judging by the numerous reviews, not just me) did not work, and spare parts in the warehouse they keep only the chassis — something rare anyway, only under the order. Therefore, global differences in service officially delivered to us car and not American, though there are nuances.
I am in no way trying to turn the world one of the fans of European and Japanese cars and replant all the polls on the American bucket. We are all very different as our preferences and needs. And as I don't get to love Toyota (if ever I'll tell you about at least one Toyota that I like — so I'm already senile and I got to shoot) and someone that American cars did not see any other application, like pour gasoline and to burn, not to persuade. And in any case do not try to do this. But if someone was thinking about buying an American car, but stumbled on the above stereotypes, you may want to weigh the "pros" and "cons" again and try it when the fuel is burned faster than it flows into the tank at the gas station. You will surely enjoy.
I have the firm 3 focus diesel, so I forgot when they refueled last time, BMW is clearly eating more)
About Mercedes and Audi agree — it sucks, for the last 10 years, none of them I have more than 3 months have not lived since leaving the salon
I will not transplant. Went and bought a diesel of the three, because it is worth nothing that on the market that service, and I don't feel pleasure now. I have such cheap parts in my life seen, for the money that I now invested in the elimination of stocks, in a Ford is that on the gas station to call you. Well, until it was enough that any rubbish of type ml, GL and q7, the same experience.
To argue with women — a thankless task.
If I may ask, what is this diesel BMW you transplanted that it is cheaper than the Americans?
Yes I rolled more than while gasoline cost 20 cents per liter, but when I became 50, so once themes with "all that is less than 5 litres, for suckers" such as themselves are gone, and now the collection includes 3 cars with a V8 are. Driving diesel BMWs have like 5 years.
The last American, which he rode was the Ford Mustang 2016 with a five-liter V8, compared to my M4, to be honest — the sound is cool, looks catches the eye, but the rest leaves much to be desired... as it was, and remains, rabid consumption, lousy handling, interior like my truck...
So one of us is clever?
Highly recommend to ride a normal motor and not try to be clever), I then all for a ride. And now I have a BMW diesel. Because on a normal car no money. But I'm holding on, though it hurts.
>>And compare chetyrehjadernyj V8 with three-liter diesel "goodbye youth" is at least strange.
Do a little American V8 can compare with the same 320 horsepower "goodbye youth three-liter" diesel engine from BMW. 5 series (G30) этf thing accelerates to 100 km/h in 4.7 seconds (it is clear that by American standards it does not overclock) the average consumption in real life rarely goes over 10 liters per 100 km, it is clear the real guys on the fuel does not save, it is only strange that the sale of diesels rod in Russia up with every fuel price hike. And 680 Nm of torque almost from idle — it was a shameful result.
Highly recommend a shot at this and to understand that Americans to Europe in terms of engines is still very far.
what is it? not the one who constantly accidentally obserat new Beemer 7-e and sings odes to the Mercedes s-klasse?
The post almost a year, and ignite the fart at Hayter is still going on...Even the guy from Cyprus unsubscribed-dick yourself.
I argue from the user which like the Mercedes w221, w211, w212, and then you buy ml and it seems that somebody says that it idrise not like a Mercedes, only pictures similar.
fiat scydo MORE comfortable car than the ML, it is the same noise isolation, control, softness in the Fiat is better!, such at least was supposed to be ml and not hard, as the Troika of BMW, with the same small seats, only the C grade this helps, and ml's awkward and unpleasant.
dant-by
I'm not talking about "American cars", your generalized opinion based on the Cadillac and American musculares let this be it )
I say that specifically w164 ML a bad car for a man who loves comfort, I checked, and I have to laugh when I see behind the wheel of the bucket of a man with a facial expression as if he is the best car in the world.
German brand and all the parts on. Car was from Germany . The car just Packed in there. Same as now in Russia only we are sorry and our metal) can not be judged good or bad, but the build expects much to be desired)
I know what you mean . There are people who and the Matiz is a great car. The love for cars is occurring for many. The theme here is about something else.
I'm not talking about "American cars", your generalized opinion based on the Cadillac and American musculares let this be it )
I say that specifically w164 ML a bad car for a man who loves comfort, I checked, and I have to laugh when I see behind the wheel of the bucket of a man with a facial expression as if he is the best car in the world.
Hi I went on the Germans, the Japanese, and North Americans)) and the Americans . That is why I wrote that love comfort. And look for the the machines as with all) it depends on the person.
you went on a w164? ML350D springs, new amotization, springs (all original), new wheels, after "interhuman" which reported that the car is "fire".
the word comfort is not something that is not applicable seats as stools, a little bump on the road, it feels like the UAZ, when I was in it food in the pits experience pain from the terrible shaking, the brain hits the skull, not in X5. the saddest thing is that ML on the pneuma is the same.
on the dynamics of the Peugeot partner 1.6 D leaves 700 Newton and does not smell )
the girls certainly like, but it is their appearance is captivating, and we know that they will walk in neudobnyi shoes and say that everything is fine.
and like this car yet to compare with, but compared with w221, swept, so make sure 200% that ML bucket and deceived with the promise of a normal car ))
dant-by
it is a Mercedes w212 called, was produced in one year w164, googling about Mercedes before articles to write ))
w164, too, like Mercedes, but this is for those who do not understand what the comfort of a Mercedes.
an overdose of nonsense that happens when the person is not rolled on the w164 does not understand the difference between a real German Mercedes and a misunderstanding of the American Assembly.
Americans love comfort.and European cars while a bit crowded)
Schizophrenia face)) and Yes, X5 is collected in the United States, and q7 in Slovakia.
what logical connection? ))
look at the Audi A4-Q7,
BMW 3-X6, look at the salons, not worse x5 5series always
and look at the w164 bucket in relation to the v8 w221 and w212 normal complete set with air pump 3,0 turbo, if I had those three cars understand why w164 bucket, he immediately "palitsya" that is not local, not German )
What is the w212 I know. And the bucket luckily only taxi rolled. Well, w164 bucket of course, but not so.
A nonsense powerful I look, put on the full. The logical connection -80 BGN
it is a Mercedes w212 called, was produced in one year w164, googling about Mercedes before articles to write ))
w164, too, like Mercedes, but this is for those who do not understand what the comfort of a Mercedes.
an overdose of nonsense that happens when the person is not rolled on the w164 does not understand the difference between a real German Mercedes and a misunderstanding of the American Assembly.
For the stream of consciousness? And what else w212? Is overdose on some laxatives this happens?
>>>ML W164 from America, the American Assembly sucks, and European — fire
it is true, I checked it myself and can answer for his words, ML is not a Mercedes nifiga, after ML sit in the German W211, W221 or W212 and just understand the meaning of this phrase and why ML c American Assembly sucks.
Although the girl who ran this ML w164 said it was very good and better than the W212 which she received instead of ML, but the facts say that ML is not the car, even a Fiat Skydo quieter, softer, more comfortable, better than midrise from Mercedes w164, ML on a disgusting ride, but if the owner is not something to compare it to he does not know car's comfort bridle level of Lada air conditioning in my ml was 700 Newton, but they are catching up figure a 1.6 TD for Peugeot partner.
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Oh Yes, everyone was waiting for Your advice, Lord of the old buckets. Now I know how to live. Thank you, Sensei! Go carry Your light wild people who do not yet know of Zen.
You can simply say, victims of zombie box does not know freedom. And most importantly don't respect someone else's opinion.
they are there to court, I drove Subur from Chelyabinsk, anything other than Tahi and two ф150 met why
Especially Troll Lx570 owners in the province. In St. Petersburg, with Moscow holding up tube))))), but in the Samara or Volgograd. Although it may fall at this time, but there is more
well powerstrok not a fountain we had, but the stone and Duramax, very good, the firmware is easily brought to 500 force and 1000 n m, and the consumption 13-15, very comfortable and pleasant
There is a 2500 frame picks up, because the car weighs more than 2.5 and grotophorst the same not less than 800 that is not ice. Although the same Stone or Durmax with Powerstorm tease young girls with juicy Tits =)
As for me so to speak IMHO, if the family needs from trips to dalnyak and finishing repairs enough 1500(150) cat "In" here already on taste and color, the difference output what someone expects from a car, who premialnye equipment appropriate, as the peasant version of the corresponding
exactly! all true and accurate, and the outcome, the whole thing is a show-off, inappropriate and cheap, advantage reduced when they see silverado 3500, or Dodge RAM 3500, we have a farm several of them, they shki, but I ride in the centre of Saint-Petersburg safely
Tax you buying a Truck( full size pickup) experienced owners fresh release saying the fines and they frame not how much. It's about 1500(150) model kategoriya voditelskogo "In". Plus taxes spin because scoops thinking: "our people in a taxi to the bakery do not go".
Crusade mostly wealthy farmers/ kombinera or leaders of the collective farm named after himself, where viabon in the order of things, and the dignity 2 cm reduced. What is the initiator, a cargo Frame in Moscow, stebutsya over which the owners of full-size pickups, "he has the advantage decreased by 2 cm" at the sight of full-size pickups.
The neighbors have a separate article, especially in my yard two neighbor bought a BMW 5 the a fresh one the car Packed and diesel version, the color I wanted and everything is fine. Bought a second saloon, petrol, pulled the M - package, clicktale because VIN looked. And flew the first laughs the second kadakal coolness that he M-ka purebred, I say the hood show, in response to the mats. And here I can't stand pokazywa VIN and say this is M-ka, Bavarian Paz will appreciate clear))). In Moscow, everything is exactly the opposite, the owner of the premium loan was chustvoval actively while in dyundel not received.
Stub to boast in front of outsiders is very important for those Lawyers, who meet on clothes, along with premium cars. Another is to have one thing or another not on the Statute as a luxurious evening gown for drunk farmers.
the financial side I have, but the tax trouble are not machines and our wonderful state, akin to North Korea when I see kruzhkovody, and he boast SIM miracle, to throat back laughter in my eyes this person strolls in with a UAZ patriot only more than 5 times or even more. Well there my neighbors think I like it anyway, if I had any rotten Volga, and the question repulsed attachments and the\m akin to nonsense, unless it's a decent retro instance, or vintage. All run for Pontus and credit, the world and the consumer market who have an Apple core on the phone anymore, or who machine the more famous brand, I do not see sense
Karl1941
From my experience, I will say that everyone will find a hundred reasons under which to hide its failure financially, and that is frightening many consumption at 16 and above. automotive engineering all its own, when the Germans were thinking how best to pass the race course on the s class, the Americans thought how to get a town car ride through the parebriki whatever that was felt in the cabin, well, sluggish thought about step 5 in the automatic transmission. I personally do not know where to go in 9 St automatic transmission, I like that 4 stages are enough. And the rest of the truth, but still forgot to specify about the show-off, they all want a Mercedes because the show-off and do not care that it is a diesel, well, or kruzak, although that sweat you see in the Japanese UAZ I don't know me so well enough caprices, and even the Cadillac Eldorado ' 72, quite comfortable to drive even in the city. Many will say of course that the impact per liter is low, so excuse me from them that there is a resource, not as the new BMW 7 where the engine does not die before 100k mileage. Many will say that going fast, what's the rush? 8 seconds is quite enough, I went on the Cadillac cts v well, 3.7 to one hundred, just where to use them? Want speed buy a bike
Forgot to add: taxes, neighbours will laugh on the secondary market for the same price, not sales, etc. in the style of the Adherents of the Toyota
From my experience, I will say that everyone will find a hundred reasons under which to hide its failure financially, and that is frightening many consumption at 16 and above. automotive engineering all its own, when the Germans were thinking how best to pass the race course on the s class, the Americans thought how to get a town car ride through the parebriki whatever that was felt in the cabin, well, sluggish thought about step 5 in the automatic transmission. I personally do not know where to go in 9 St automatic transmission, I like that 4 stages are enough. And the rest of the truth, but still forgot to specify about the show-off, they all want a Mercedes because the show-off and do not care that it is a diesel, well, or kruzak, although that sweat you see in the Japanese UAZ I don't know me so well enough caprices, and even the Cadillac Eldorado ' 72, quite comfortable to drive even in the city. Many will say of course that the impact per liter is low, so excuse me from them that there is a resource, not as the new BMW 7 where the engine does not die before 100k mileage. Many will say that going fast, what's the rush? 8 seconds is quite enough, I went on the Cadillac cts v well, 3.7 to one hundred, just where to use them? Want speed buy a bike
slavasaxa
Not lazy and looked for those characteristics. So. Passport — 6.9 in town!
Urgent call to France! you are the first person on earth who exceeded the performance of the factory tests. After all, engineers are tripping over themselves to declare the lowest flow rates. And then You get on a litre less!
Perhaps I, too, sit down in the Escalade and ride the coast down 700 meters and also post a screenshot with 5 liters in the city.
no, friend, consumption 6.l real
As recently as 3 days ago, was in Odessa, Kherson and Nikolaev. Talked with people, listened to the mood of your company ... Quite all there, sadly
Woldemaar
Given our rich history, we are unlikely someone can make a sensible offer at the present time. the development model of state and society, to which we brought the party and the government discredited itself, alas . can, however, tell you how to allow weak people to power and instead will come the looters and murderers (I mean the revolution of 1917), razbazarivanii in pieces all over the country, from winnings in the war to make a loss (world 1), completely drained cold and not clear results 2 world...
Yes, there is something to be proud of, of course. system zdravoohraneniya, electrification, red army, science... the Whole groundwork of what exist today, were basically made by Stalin, as strange as it may sound.
I do not belong to belolentochnye and other discordant comrades, but to compare the 2 systems to the citizen in society and to society (as a system) to the citizen, as can anyone else. Not the Kiselev-TV is not a notorious CNN I do not need .
The biggest problem is the environment that we have created around themselves, with the connivance or sabotage those same officials. Debris, mud, the quality of roads, the poverty model building as a class, over the last 40 years.
On the second and forth places, the blindness, the deafness of the authorities to the problems of citizens, the absence of guaranteed inviolability of private property, the engagement of the judiciary. Anyone from the powers that be can take away your land for individual housing construction or cottage, under the pretext that the land 20 years ago, were allocated in their opinion wrong.
The villains of the ocean, of course, monitor these attitudes and strongly them heated, but I assure you, most of our problems are created within the state, equally responsible for it and the people living in our country and the system itself, this phenomenon gave rise. The government does not respect citizens, citizens reciprocate. It's simple.
All the advantages of the social system of social mobility and social guarantees of the Soviet system lost . Retired, we now automatically get is not something that poor people in retirement, and simply poor, except maybe the security forces . And try to disagree .
Something I there alluded to the fact that I would be nice to clean the conscience can be more?
villains from the ocean do not care deeply sentiment in your community
Fin42rus
I wonder then where in your opinion the design is? Japan? Korea? China? Russia?
France, Italy
As one wise man "I want to go as all-buy a Toyota, want to drive like a man — buy American"))).
can you with certainty say that American cars as a beer — once tasted, you will not be able to ostanovitsa, and do not want to. And all the propaganda of pontevedro about Americans is either complacency or a stereotype, or curl.
I basically think that American cars (one of which I have in addition to PEUGEOT) is a drug. And I will not sell American never .unless you buy another American. With spare parts is no problem, will take and bring anything! And in terms of reliability it is necessary to remember that oak metal wheelbarrow with eggs .not aluminum bucket from Korea and Japan. The engines are often still cast iron and incredibly maintainable. So fear not, you just need to love the car you picked out and spit in the face of the one who discourages this, based on hearsay.
America would be a little closer, and Your text as it would treat the realities, if not one "BUT": the fee in the amount of 2.5 million rubles for a car worth $ 1 million...
And now to import a car — the problem and only old stock from people:)
This is a great machine, most of them high-quality and reliable unrealistic. And they knocked...I'm talking about muscle cars (V8) and sports cars, and of course the CTS-V, private competitor for the Europeans;)
Cars they have cool myself went to Tahoe 2.And then Ana is not eating it is said to those who they do not went not when.15 to 20 litres in the city is nonsense, in comparison klassami below which small engines do and eat a lot.Take the 2.5 engine 15-18 in the city .That's a lot.Draw your own conclusions.