431. Volkswagen Passat instead of the Audi A4. Why?
Hi All. Below you will see a small overview of the purchased Volkswagen Passat. Will a 10 minute video, where I show You the actual mileage, and the tension of the timing chain, and will show You the status of the machine. A little will add pictures in a post, because the video may not look all.
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And bought this Passat instead of the Audi A4, which was not able to find the sum of even up to 900 000 rubles. But one inspection of the Audi's I showed you — 426. The Audi A4 B8. Why not buy an Audi? And then I promised You that I will lay out this Passat, and You will have a real chance to compare the state of the car! Watch the Video, unfortunately, there is excess wind noise but you can hear everything.
This car was sold one of the official dealers in my town, but it was not put on the trade inu, but simply left for implementation to the dealership. And the owner of the car, also sold over the Internet, so we were able to find the owner of the car themselves.
Car — 1 owner, original title, winter tires in addition to the car, mileage 74,000 km, all THE dealer inside and out, no colors, no mistakes, top speed. The car has no scratches at all!
By the time my client received the full amount of cash in the Bank, the owner of the car said her I have now taken! Already, they say, the keys give up, so You guys don't have time... In the showroom the car was sold the car for 850 000 rubles, and the owner was ready to pick up from there, and give us over 790 000.
But, once the car is sold, we decided to continue the search, and were going to go for a day in Yekaterinburg, seen it all, the Audi A4 and the trade winds. But I again called the seller and said that the car buyers are not taken, somewhere lost, their time is up, so if you want, come and take it!
Of course, I said that we will only now for 780,000 rubles. The seller took 5 second pause, I almost said the f-word, but said God is with You, just take it on the native summer tires, not new tires. I agreed.
The fact is that once the person is calling himself, means he needs it! And there is no place I trade, and I offer my price for the car, but now I don't need it, and him! And even if he refused to sell, we would go to Ekaterinburg and found something there:) But the seller agreed.
The dealership sold the car to his native rubber, and in the ad the seller was new summer tires. But when I asked the seller about the tires, he told 790 000 is a native rubber, and 800 Tr on new year ready to give. In the end, agreed, 780 Tr native Tr 790 tires or new summer tires which I bought just before this summer.
My client looked at this new rubber, and there was Hancock, he didn't like it, buy the rubber itself, and the machine stood at 780 000. Let's see how it looks from the outside.
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But actually the rubber on original rims. 235/45 ZR17. The state of the tires — to dokatitsya season. And winter tires in good condition, enough for 2-3 seasons.
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The CDA engine 1.8 T 152 horses. He was all clean. The dealer of course washed it completely. But even now stains nowhere. Maclear in these engines is, but here we were lucky, after 2-3000 miles the oil level is in the same position if zhor will, it is about 1 litre of oil per 10,000 km. And a joint with the piston eliminated under warranty, but after 2012, the plant has won this issue on all new cars.
The timing chain is native, but it does not require replacement!
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The original factory windshield with heating. It was one chip, which successfully patched the seller.
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The car interior was clean and not shabby. No odors or wear a big no! Even nothing to clean after the purchase had Thanks to the first owner for the car.
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On DSG7. The customer is not afraid of any turbine or a robot. He had a seat, and Golf, and he understands all the possible issues and knows what well-groomed car will drive with no problems, and if you buy rolled, then the problem will be everywhere.
We deliberately searched for such a machine to the warranty on the DSG was! Here another half a year warranty, and all of these box problems corrected under warranty, and you get a machine with 2 year trouble-free operation, and then sell:)
The history of cars — the first replacement clutches were made under warranty for 25 000 km.
Mechatronics replacement was done under warranty at 50 or 60 000 km.
Currently on the car for about 74,000 km and mileage with transmission problems again it is:) No, she gets a stake, and not kick like a machine gun from Akaki on W210, but not so clearly works as they should! There are light twitches in the beginning of the ride with the hill.
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Now about the main thing, about the condition of the car why not buy an Audi A4?
It's very simple. This Passat just in excellent condition, with little real mileage, fully serviced and maintained. Possible in the future to let her Koolance if anything, to do this, my client is in need of friends. No remarked there are no openings, no torn seats and other outrages!
As of this Passat much better than all Audi A4 who at the time were sold in the city. And why take the Audi in a condition not very good, if there is a Passat in the state — almost ideal?
The main thing here is to prioritize and choose what you need! The customer is very pleased with the machine!
Show-off.
Someone will write that word in the comments, arguing that we should have bought the Camry! I'll tell You this, everyone takes the machine to fit your goals! And not everyone is going to go 5 years on a single machine and for a couple of years, this Passat is a good choice!
Who went on the turbo motors do not want to take the atmosphere, I think many will understand me now, and not the other way around:) Customer turboveg long rides in cars, and not had any problems with them, and all because they took them not depressed! And if you know how to use them, even these "disposable" as You say vagi, can pass more than Your reusable vehicles. And the interior, taxiing, options and finally price, this machine is very good!
The car was bought for mostly city driving. After Golf I wanted the car higher class. Got what I wanted.
PS: the Seller instead of the Passat I bought the Tiguan at full drive. Says you need a vehicle, four-wheel drive and higher, and bought a new Tiguan in top speed. I write in order not to ask the reason for selling.
All over the WORLD. Just don't buy pressed buckets, and then any car will drive without any problems.
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You're a strange person) had a couple of shots by to do?)) Bagaza, I have a drain. Despite the fact that I for very little money (10 000 – 15 000 R.) you can make plus 80 HP, right?) Whether it was to not long ago? No, but I do not need.
Fans of Honda have always appreciated her for her athletic character and appearance. And there was only a look.
Dynamic is not a race. Dynamics is the General feeling of the car and the thrill of the ride. Dynamics determine the price of all the cars, all classes, makes and models. And if you make a list of brands and models that have this feature better than the 2008 Accord 2,4 – then it will be long enough)) And interestingly, it will auto significantly less. But the inconsistency of these performance characteristics and real – so this is needlove))
ZhukovPetr
Ahaha, man, you seem not aware just what Honda now and have not seen the races))
A chord is a vegetable from the vegetables of the internal combustion engine which has no passport 200 forces, and the strength of 170-180 and the ancient 5 speed hydrotransformer, which at BEST give infamous a 9.7 sec 0-100. And often not for the best Bense and imperfect condition of the car 0-100'll be 10+ seconds. And here comes a prior only on the chip (but that there is a chip at 1.6 atmo? Laughter through tears) and to the cheers of the crowd makes this chord with its 9.6 h)) prior, Carl?))
No, it's better. Do you think if the people who built this Honda, has suggested that to her once in Russia will arrive prior to the chip... You're not stupid, he think of that) Prompt) They'd pererezali conveyor! And then he began to build and was thinking: Stop! But if the prior will with the turbine? And once again restarted) In fact, the common man will just smile from this nonsense with the numbers that you wrote. No offense) you still do not deplanes to me its tuning venom)))
ZhukovPetr
Maybe you haven't wrote me... I Have a Zhopelya in full flow. When Zhopelya performance characteristics is also not so hot compared to the German counterparts, the same Skoda that I had. So you give out wrong diagnoses – I chose it because overall the car is interesting. And available on my ice chip to 300 HP for a year and a half I didn't, and probably won't, you shoot bad at all))
Now to the Honda. I originally only said about her shitty dynamics. No one accord with Priori not comparing like machines. Example "in Priorei" I just said HOW much brighter it is weak. And he is very pinned when I saw it live)) And weight, automatic transmission, etc...it's all clear, no need to yell that?)) But the fact that most of the Chords on automatic, and almost all priors do some "chipchick" +10l.with., what a joke...and in reality, this means that in General, the Chords losing on the dynamics of the Priors))) It's just a very speculative picture is very funny, no?))
And it's not a mad drug, and one of the main characteristics of your car. And all would be nothing if the chord is not positioned as molodezy car... And all would be well, if Honda was not in the 90s great atmospheric engines 1.5 to 160 forces 2.0 211 HP So everyone who knows and knows the history of Honda it is not clear how in our time it was possible to make this vegetable a chord.
The most important thing! If the surrounding us reality makes you a rejection, not creeps if you think that you're in something wrong?
ZhukovPetr
Maybe you haven't wrote me... I Have a Zhopelya in full flow. When Zhopelya performance characteristics is also not so hot compared to the German counterparts, the same Skoda that I had. So you give out wrong diagnoses – I chose it because overall the car is interesting. And available on my ice chip to 300 HP for a year and a half I didn't, and probably won't, you shoot bad at all))
Now to the Honda. I originally only said about her shitty dynamics. No one accord with Priori not comparing like machines. Example "in Priorei" I just said HOW much brighter it is weak. And he is very pinned when I saw it live)) And weight, automatic transmission, etc...it's all clear, no need to yell that?)) But the fact that most of the Chords on automatic, and almost all priors do some "chipchick" +10l.with., what a joke...and in reality, this means that in General, the Chords losing on the dynamics of the Priors))) It's just a very speculative picture is very funny, no?))
And it's not a mad drug, and one of the main characteristics of your car. And all would be nothing if the chord is not positioned as molodezy car... And all would be well, if Honda was not in the 90s great atmospheric engines 1.5 to 160 forces 2.0 211 HP So everyone who knows and knows the history of Honda it is not clear how in our time it was possible to make this vegetable a chord.
Look, they sold their cars. And even if you happened to cheat when selling entire planet, then for b/a should at least demand to be low. Reality exists independently of your rejection.
Because you're a lousy therapist, we figured out that the chord dull the vegetable too. You can arbitrarily refer to the mind of the Japanese, but in fact accord 2008 became a transition from "past" Honda with sporty looks and excellent dynamics for a pensioner's appearance, which he has now become. He became fully copy marketing the Camry, in order to fit into D class — gray machines "firms". Yeah, the market is cruel and a Yapi agony. I find it funny how you try to justify why he rides as prior in any case 10+ are going very, very many With class hatchbacks, crossovers and other cars that are cheaper in two or three times)) you think everything is OK?)) I don't know, with such a price tag. This may not only upset the aunt of the pensioner, gay or just non technical person with testosterone not all right)) Ie initially dibs to pay insurance and taxes then as a serious machine to pay, which in reality is not. You say those who are not satisfied with the "they'll just go" in the Studio? And then the chord avno sad, because you nothing will! It's not a Skoda and not an Opel, where only a chip you get a WOW effect. Thun Chords – this is perhaps the saddest thing is that I meet. So many colorful zelenock fetish around, so much crap with the settings so many kilotons of dough...for the result, which for VAG mediocre. So I don't know what kind of rejection you're talking about, I went over the last 10 years on 12 machines and clearly understand why it is called "sheep in wolf's clothing")) Read the forums and Драйв2, read from owners, a lot of resentment and little who then selects the chord and on the road they are less. So not stsy, well, you choose a car like an aunt who is just beautiful and the colors you came, and still afraid to press on the gas, relax, do not bother about such nonsense as dynamics)))
About cipcic don't. Where cipcic, there is a camshaft and rushed. Besides this people like to give Honda on pumped prior, saying that I'm just chipchick did. If I hadn't ridden the Honda, and Priore... Okay, I'll tell you. About how it was possible to do... Your response is called rejection. There, in the land of the rising sun, over machines are serious people. I assure you, they do what people need. People, not you. If they did, then it is not necessary to the people, not you. Remember, they are working in the highly competitive market in which the error cost is very expensive for the company. They know that those who seem a little, go in the Studio. And they will always be small, so they do not care for them. Always the rejection is based on ignorance. Nedootsenili, you know? What is the point not to take natural things? Just think better and not perturbed. So they made a vegetable chord) Sorry that I wasted 30 minutes...
Maybe you haven't wrote me... I Have a Zhopelya in full flow. When Zhopelya performance characteristics is also not so hot compared to the German counterparts, the same Skoda that I had. So you give out wrong diagnoses – I chose it because overall the car is interesting. And available on my ice chip to 300 HP for a year and a half I didn't, and probably won't, you shoot bad at all))
Now to the Honda. I originally only said about her shitty dynamics. No one accord with Priori not comparing like machines. Example "in Priorei" I just said HOW much brighter it is weak. And he is very pinned when I saw it live)) And weight, automatic transmission, etc...it's all clear, no need to yell that?)) But the fact that most of the Chords on automatic, and almost all priors do some "chipchick" +10l.with., what a joke...and in reality, this means that in General, the Chords losing on the dynamics of the Priors))) It's just a very speculative picture is very funny, no?))
And it's not a mad drug, and one of the main characteristics of your car. And all would be nothing if the chord is not positioned as molodezy car... And all would be well, if Honda was not in the 90s great atmospheric engines 1.5 to 160 forces 2.0 211 HP So everyone who knows and knows the history of Honda it is not clear how in our time it was possible to make this vegetable a chord.
Hey, man, look, you lost the normal rational thinking on this topic a fucking fucked-up races. It's just a car. Transport. You know? It also said other things being equal, both on the handle and without the firmware. Do you think Honda did for you? That can't logically set the criteria? Honda is heavier from the factory and ice under the weight of this and also priori. Look, shit all on your unhealthy opinion. Honda intelligent auto, nice. A priori, you know, for the money. How many people change on prior with Honda? Chips, huipi, this is for fanatics. How many of you? And count up the scale... About you don't even know are doing for the average motorist. And you Oh, chipovat and then poison spit at each other. Stupid...
A machine, Yes, old, but reliable, modern, not yet reported, robots, CVTs and DSG with their problems. This topic is simply illogical to develop with a person "under the tuning of" who wants to pass everyone and then poison spit) Or to see ahead, and then spit)
Look, you're not saying the cheaper sausage roll, roll — shit! This products for different people. And with machines as well. Well, catch?
Ahaha, man, you seem not aware just what Honda now and have not seen the races))
A chord is a vegetable from the vegetables of the internal combustion engine which has no passport 200 forces, and the strength of 170-180 and the ancient 5 speed hydrotransformer, which at BEST give infamous a 9.7 sec 0-100. And often not for the best Bense and imperfect condition of the car 0-100'll be 10+ seconds. And here comes a prior only on the chip (but that there is a chip at 1.6 atmo? Laughter through tears) and to the cheers of the crowd makes this chord with its 9.6 h)) prior, Carl?))
Are you having fun? Other things being equal in the drain? It's just prior, buddy, you're probably confused something))) Although if the Honda does not start, it turns out)
rukarukumoet
And I look like trailing атмоACCORDы, say 2.4, 2008 V.))) He is like a bullet!
Prior to the space can make this chord this is a super stupid Japanese with their volume and the horses.
why?
turbo goes, stock is lagging.
And I look like trailing атмоACCORDы, say 2.4, 2008 V.))) He is like a bullet!
GlavniiEnergetik
2 liter atmo thing is, in city more than enough, on the track fire, too. The issue with the turbine is eliminated permanently. Not on the rally
I had a Audi A4 2 liters atmo 131л.with., and was Opel ASTA 1.4 GTS turbo, which I'm almost 170.with squeezed, and feel the Astra is much faster than was...
And then I can't go on "vegetable" atmosfernykh...
There are thousands of cars successfully rolling on this DIC at 200 and 250 and 300 HP...
Too bad they didn't know that you need to change it all) And successfully skated and returned to stock and sold and are still successfully ride like fools)
PS Box manual gearbox and ...it's not Opel.
It is not necessary chipovat if chipovat over 180л.with. her, then the box needs to be changed, and the piston to forged, and so on, why reduce the already small share of these engines...he's in the runoff rides fine...
GlavniiEnergetik
2 liter atmo thing is, in city more than enough, on the track fire, too. The issue with the turbine is eliminated permanently. Not on the rally
The concept of "enough" at everyone)
Someone question the principle of the machine has disappeared, and what?
Who needs popovska who the buzz from the machine, therefore treat for the dynamics of a thankless task)
And konkrentno this 1.8 cipressa from 152 to 250 HP But optimal is 200, I was like that. For a reasonable price you get a plane that will surprise many cars, very reliable, with a thrust of 1,500 as of diesel and a consumption less than 2.0 atmo.
about fire on the track neighing))
how many rides 100-200 2.0 atmo? and how many vahovskiy 1,8 ген3 CT1?
lol, the passenger in emergency situations I threw. drain basket counts, go pasis.
95 % of users (if not more) these numbers 100-200 will not put her, unfortunately)
TheRigle
2.0 atmo drives like the 1.4 turbo VAG, well, for the same mass of course (Tolley 1.4 turbo Skoda Yeti, Octavia or omitted there is a difference)
At the same time the consumption of that 1.4 turbo will be lower by 1-2 liters in average, well depends on how you drive, with the same style of 100% on 2 liters below...Plus when changing the oil, the savings are small, because we must not pour 5литров, and 3-3.5 litre ))
only the engine will constantly eat oil and come even more than 5 liters)))
About the cock-motor not interested in a single gram, I have a boat with that cock he season do not ride. That he's coming? There are ocatvia on DSG 122 HP -ebolowa it all.
And I cock these races do not stick, to put the lava in the car especially. Better to build a house and nice rest.
wwwsnoby
fuck Yes rides are almost identical, and had the 1.8, now a 2.0
2.0 atmo drives like the 1.4 turbo VAG, well, for the same mass of course (Tolley 1.4 turbo Skoda Yeti, Octavia or omitted there is a difference)
At the same time the consumption of that 1.4 turbo will be lower by 1-2 liters in average, well depends on how you drive, with the same style of 100% on 2 liters below...Plus when changing the oil, the savings are small, because we must not pour 5литров, and 3-3.5 litre ))
about fire on the track neighing))
how many rides 100-200 2.0 atmo? and how many vahovskiy 1,8 ген3 CT1?
lol, the passenger in emergency situations I threw. drain basket counts, go pasis.
fuck Yes rides are almost identical, and had the 1.8, now a 2.0
GlavniiEnergetik
We didn't rally more than 110 impossible. For overtaking enough. Well, if the fool in the head it is incurable. In the furnace of the turbine.
Sometimes rushing to work and due to the good dynamics of the drive 2 times faster than these old men who barely trailing...
Travel around the city no more than 100 as a rule, pedestrians passed in the red, not the food cut, but I know how to do it so much faster to get from point a to point B than the average driver...
We didn't rally more than 110 impossible. For overtaking enough. Well, if the fool in the head it is incurable. In the furnace of the turbine.
about fire on the track neighing))
how many rides 100-200 2.0 atmo? and how many vahovskiy 1,8 ген3 CT1?
lol, the passenger in emergency situations I threw. drain basket counts, go pasis.
2 liter atmo thing is, in city more than enough, on the track fire, too. The issue with the turbine is eliminated permanently. Not on the rally
there are some rules for riding on a turbo car. you drive it as atmospheric does it mean to be blunt.
why is it less resource? to drive normally, and the resource will be the same.
Buying a car in Lam nehochetsya think how to drive, I want to go as your heart desires, this happiness is owning a car. And if the manufacturer tells you how to drive, then excuse me, you're under the hood.
25 tkm replacement of clutches, and 50 tcm replacement mechatronics.
Sounds like nonsense! And this new VW B7! Very reliable car)))
well, not utter nonsense, buy a car for 780 thousand, and end up with crap. why is it necessary? and what will another two years after replacing the box? will fall apart the second? and then what? a car, how much you can sell without box? how much is a new box? Fuck your VAG!
not great why would you take an Audi in worse condition when you can take IT with not really a whole box and warranty, what's the word then... soon it will be impossible to buy a car which is not on warranty...
You're a storyteller
"And if you know how to use them, even these "disposable" as You say vagi, can pass more than Your reusable vehicles"
Look here in-flight magazines and every second problems with the engine. piston replacements warranty runs about 40 000 — 50 000
And with boxes in exactly the same way every second of the problem.
And here is something I don't want to look in the direction of "quality vagov"
sscdimon
Disposable VAG will never pass more reusable vehicle. He and disposable.
agree) so the Germans not worth taking, they don't even disposable, and coachie in the service staff! Therefore, a priori disposable!
Well, except for the motor and box is a great car. At least the wheels are round, and that is good.
Only in terms of the turbine and automatic that prevents to take on the mechanics, the Turbine will result depending on the car
Passat B7 150, Passat B6 - about 50, Passat B5 - 25
The period of operation of the turbine also depends on many factors...
Type boxes are not needed, me especially. Just a fact, nothing more. Didn't mean to hurt anyone.
Ctpadibapi
At a friend's A6 , six cylinder, her mother, and furious price when buying! Hell! 62 thousand km died mechatronics... I'm not saying. that robot shit, but for the money I want something more reliable. However, he does not just sprints, not raping the car, on the contrary loves the car and invested, and this is even more do not understand the vitality DSG
On the A6 DQ200 is not assigned. And the 6-cylinder engine is a reliable DQ500, which digested the moment better than many GDT-boxes. In case your friend is either a manufacturing defect or his own school. By the way, for such a powerful motor, you can expect death from any type of boxes.
DSG was created to suck money from us on the same path now go and assault rifles making them supposedly maintenance-free... no oil is humanly not changed nor the filter in the automatic transmission can not replace... bitches!))
beback
I do not understand, with all the DSG that, if so?
"the first replacement clutches were made under warranty for 25 000 km.
Mechatronics replacement was done under warranty at 50 or 60 000 km" Tin-what...
Replacement box per 100,000 )))
I do not understand, with all the DSG that, if so?
"the first replacement clutches were made under warranty for 25 000 km.
Mechatronics replacement was done under warranty at 50 or 60 000 km" Tin-what...
People bought shit and I'm glad ))
Passat — Ponty? Do not tell me. Although who knows, maybe you and so, we have this stupid bulbosa.
year the Passat what is it?
questionable purchase for the money obviously problematic car with great mileage.
If a customer's DSG is not a problem, all the other cons of this machine...mmmm... it's nonexistent! Choosing the correct
Sergey, thank you for the interesting review!
Now, wondering whether to change my Passat (catalyst KIA is still the same powder keg, and hunting automatic gearbox, traction, dimensions, and velour).
In my town sold this: auto.ru/cars/used/sale/vo...passat/1047872344-4ed266/
Blog reviews about the inspection lot, and some detailed review about how to weed out the dross from the ad text — not found (that's a topic for another post!). What can you say on the ad — whether to inspect or not?
The difference still is) Just a good A4 is more good passata.
The difference is not in favor of Audi