426. The Audi A4 B8. Why not buy an Audi?
Hi All. Below You will see the inspection of the Audi A4 B8. So, you know, why not take this car. Talk about who was my customer and how we communicate with the customer. At the end of the post the result of the examination, and that in the end, we bought.
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Navigation 2 blog, there You will be able to find 3/4 of the answers to your questions.
But we'll start with the history of how people in General became my client. I picked up a year and a half ago, Lancer 9, and my client introduced me to his company, about 8 people. At the moment I have almost all of them have updated the car, and the client is already like half year my friend, and we are from the same party. He Vagued, he has Golf 1.4 T DSG7, so the problem of Vagov knows better than me. On his car I just trained the diagnosis, and he gave me to try on his car. And now it's time to find him a car. 100% confidence, so the pictures did little, mostly explained by phone, or went to inspect together.
My friend(Alex) wishlist are — Audi A4 or the Passat B7, the sum of 800 000 rubles, need celiac pair Ponkrashov will not interfere, if in color and openings intact.
The trade winds will be around 2011-12 1.8 T DSG7, and Audi will be about 2010 years 1.8 T CVT.
Of course, the first task is to find an Audi, and like them more, and as if there is Foltz Foltz, and Audi is a type of different level. To which I explained that to find a Audi A4 in the amount of 800,000 rubles and yet not the bare, very hard... and sometimes impossible in his wishlist... But he persuaded me, like th lose? Well, to be trash, so will look for a Passat. And if you are an Audi, it will be super! And a head, he knew that the Audi's we can find, but hope dies last.
Cars for sale is not much, the budget isn't that big, and this is their lower limit price and the lower threshold all all know that sells.
The first car agreed to meet at the Parking lot where it is sold, I arrived 20 minutes early, and found nothing whole in it at all... Painted, all a + schools! Peeling paint at the arches and as for all the Germans. The altitude of the inspection was that it does not start, the battery is dead to zero, and the car was 2 days ago in the showroom, and the room she did not Chelyabinsk. Called Alex, said don't even drive:)
The second machine, just call and ask. And I answer, the machine is not local, THEN the dealer didn't do even once, standing in the garden, it don't go, rubber winter there. And so the car is good, told me. Well, it's past at all...
The third machine. And here interestingly, the ad says the following:
— Car in excellent condition in body, interior, chassis all in the ideal, the actual mileage is confirmed by official dealer, new summer tires, replaced front brake discs, brake pads in a circle, the steering rack is fixed and under warranty, the car followed and spared no expense.
Everything seems clear as day! Wheelbarrow fire! But here's what I found on the phone:
— Two owners, a whole, has no colors, polished the whole car, the polisher said that celiac! But bought the car and did not check the box! THEN the dealer made 70 tkm, rubber summer, winter gone, the rail did, cardan steering did stand staba changed.
Always confuses me the same thing! The owner of not one, not tested before buying... Everything else is typical Audi sores. How to buy a car for a million, not checking anything?
Let's get to watch... I like the looks of the Audi! I'll try less subjective and more on the case, and in the end, the inspection and write my opinion on the car.
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Just let us inspect body, wheels and so on. Look what is outside! And we have schools such:
1. Painted right bochina from wingtip to wingtip!
2. The lacquer peel off with painted elements.
3. German rejects paint, as You could see in the previous posts about the Germans.
Passat B6
Audi A4
And another B6
4. There is a small dent, but it is not critical.
5. The rear bumper is also peeling, as bochina, but the photo I just did.
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Go on. New summer tires, it's not new! It is 2012 and type without run across the Russian Federation with the wear and tear of 5-10%, this was stated by the owner himself during my examination. In every city there are some firms that sell this tires?
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Brake disks are actually replaced, they are in new condition!
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Standard question to any Viovode. What is maloor that wagon?
The seller said — 500 grams per 1000 km topped up. Quite a lot, if not lied yet! The attendants at the car dealership. And 1000 grams for 1000 km is the norm for books in German cars.
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The body is not all. Colors right side was not cosmetic, even painted the door, and opening the front. And the renovation will not have for this car. Dust, dust, dust... I will only repel it. Can't remember if there were spakle, probably not, but it looks ugly. Photo there is only one, never did.
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Diagnosis the machine is working! Maybe there were some mistakes, but it was a trifle! And I kind of Audi!
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Pretty tidy numbers around 280 km/h, that's what I, as a child, understood, knocks the car or not!
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A lot of buttons... just a lot, a heap, is not very clear... 
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It's the lyrics. But the condition of the cabin are far from perfect! Hole in the driver's seat, I repeat, a HOLE, not a hole like profursetki route. And the hole in the passenger front seat.
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The question is, would You buy for 800 000? But let's summarize to make it clearer?
— It is necessary to buy winter tires is at least attachments. For fans to say that nobody is obliged to give it, I will say that I bought the car fully complete. And the post about her will.
— Need to re-paint, bumper, rear wing, can't remember exactly whether peeling varnish somewhere else, and the pictures were only these. If an old car like Passat B6 and it would cost 400 MP, it would be possible somehow condescending to treat it. And the machine of 2010, in my opinion, should not be so!
— The salon is not the best! Has several drawbacks.
Look, the car is not shit! She's not dead, not dead! She's just not the best. No desire to buy this car, especially painted doorway that is not good, the lacquer is detached from the machine, and so on. That's what I told Alex, and he'd just painted bocinas already took it! And the thing is that we had a choice, and the trade winds did not sell enough, why take the Audi in a state not much, if there is certainly a Passat, because it is not very marketable? The more that 800,000 rubles for Audi the amount is not large, and the trade winds are quite reasonable! So we decided to watch the machine on, and we did not in vain!
Another point, this Audi is not Audi. In the sense that it is on the monodrive she has a motor with a milk carton and the box CVT, the sales are not a robot! It's not fast, she does not give emotions, it's expensive and old. And have Audi not cheap.
If the car is so perfect, like I said on the phone, it would certainly have taken, but upon inspection it turned out that it is not so perfect! And take it from want, although the machine and not a ghoul, and had already bought it. Good luck to the new owner, I hope he's not rogue, and that in three years there will be another ghoul, which will be pressed and all the jambs.
In the end, we found the Passat, but this will be the next post! And there is also its own story, not just so we got it:)
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GeHa6yKuH
my opinion — if to take new and drain in a year/two/three — it is generally not important type of transmission. If drive like in Soviet times — one machine for 3 generations — I'm old hydroautomatic more impressed.
Then it is on the stick.
I liked the phrase — "Another point, this Audi is not Audi. In the sense that it is on the monodrive she has a motor with a milk carton" especially about the milk carton like it))) it seems that the author sort is professionally engaged in machines and do not vkurse that the usual motor 1.8 T goes approximately as the average 2.4 — 3.0 l atmo, and on account of that terrible massager for Audi is the norm, there is, I admit, but on my old Audi 1.8 t — first generation and consumption of less than a liter from replacement before replacement is given what her every day and she tumbled into a run for 310 thousand At the expense of the variator agree. P. S and Yes, this milk goes, passengers who for the first time go, almost always ask what's the engine size, and are very surprised when they find out that it's just a carton of milk)))
I myself working in the salon)) and Yes, there are new cars with damage, but so maniacally to consider beushku there years? Clear the stump, or it will be painted or scratches
so buying new is no guarantee that it is.there are many cases when salons sell dinged up.
somewhere here on the drive man wrote as the evening I bought a new car, drove home, put in garage.in the morning happy was kicked out of the garage, looking out, and he has a lacquer flaking off the paint!
he is in the salon, those in the position, such as myself night hit!done! and now we want to blame?!
don't know really what it was over, he was going to do the examination.
PM in the salon with you, too, need to take more understanding of human nature, especially with a thickness gauge.
I would adequately correlated amount and the car in question. That's why I always buy new - I don't want scratchy, etc.
You sorry, of course, but all these micro-defects on the paintwork (which You photographed with a special lens, or not to see?), painted details, old rubber — it's like you take a new car in the cabin, not mileage, what is the price — the car
vyacheslav1983
What is that new Corolla for 800? There will be two airbags, the condo and the caps on the stampings. Just need Audi more interesting to watch. The Passat is also a great option.
I've also wondering where Corolla for 800 saw... I have Ofitserov worked BU Corolla 12 years was worth 780 thousand, the new 980 and costs from up the hill! which showroom we were worth 1150т.R
Found something to compare, I have a Mercedes too, 300 tonnes km travelled and the box with the motor did, in a box, even the oil changed, CVT Audi is less reliable if you know how to ride it
personally see a normal machine on the B5 Passat which is on a regular basis goes to an Amateur ride. in winter and summer. and alive. and there is no problem.
and machines already hell knows how many years. and their reliability is no doubt. all robots and variable speed. never reliable.
at Audi no hydro, reliability as lucky, from a friend diesel Audi with a CVT with a mileage of 240, and it is only the flywheel changed at the mileage 220 and then goes, a simple machine is too long rides, so it's all relative
DJ-DIMA
without prof inspection, pushed to only the CVT.
but if everything else is in about good condition. obviously would have picked.
probably did the new owner of this Audi.
than the CVT bad?)
Well haveactual use for almost 4 years, it is worse than the Passat or A4 nudeprivate don't even know a month mark pretty close, I've had 3 Audi's and a few from a friend. for the money this Octavia is the best option, it's option quality/price. The Passat is something obscure enough money take Octavia, on the top level of the Passat is already A4, so wrong place is not here.
Hunter088
Well, the above class is very conditional, especially when the price tag over the bottom bracket look. The master, of course master, but beyond that it's all status considerations, rather than economic component or common sense. From Audi there is not very much, no motor or drive.
Passat and haveactual Yes, next do not put, the Passat is a great choice in the money but if komplektaa Highline the General bomb.
sng174
half a liter of oil in a thousand miles? so it all turns should not be changed, and so is fully updated for 10 thousand km))
in theory Yes...the filter to twist every 15-17тык))))
Oh I would not be so sure of that:) I work With a guy, went on the old 124. So to change it is not what is not wanted. Wife bought it new and he had fun on the old merc.
HiGen
I wonder what she eats faster, oil or gasoline))) God, what a hat, I even have a Lada as not ate.
die...that does not know me what to change Mercedes with mileage under 400 thousand of a gram is not eating oil...
if you figure out my mileage on a Audi...you get 1 liter of oil in two weeks ...ethno full picnic
well, then you young people need the Lancer 9 and paint and buttons takes a little !
KE is the mechanics and its resource is very large, all this is still not cheap, especially the sensors.
We are repairing KE on the principle "began to stall, garbage, turn blanks," while this system requires only a qualified service.My friend restored KYO to the factory 4 years ago.It cost him in the 70T.R together with Khamenei injectors.He has traveled more than 100T km and problems with it whatsoever.I think they will not soon.
By the sound of the 5 cylinder 2.3 AAM very pleasing to the ear, especially at low revs, but he is still pretty sluggish, especially combined with ancient акпп4.
2.3 better with KYO.
For 20 years precisely enough.
Guys, do not tell tales about crashproof ke. The system is quite complex and enough things to break and there. There are only a couple but: firstly it's worth the penny. The second on ke was not self-diagnosing (at least on early cars), and with some of the failed sensor can be spend on a trip years podobreeva about it. This is not a modern car where any deviation from the check Engin light comes on. And just 2.3 ke the sound of the engine just pleasing to the ear, he how many years cupeski with such departure.
MBDP
Why this machine is a corpse in your opinion
You wrote: "... and what about the motor and box I would bet. Goes to 1.8 if 160 horses cheerfully any other machines with dviglom 2.0. But there is clearly a corpse, Cho talking."
if there is any doubt that four 1.8 will break the same Mazda or Ford two-liter, find the norms of the car and rolled. To prove that white is white I'm lazy.
MBDP
Why this machine is a corpse in your opinion
You wrote: "... and what about the motor and box I would bet. Goes to 1.8 if 160 horses cheerfully any other machines with dviglom 2.0. But there is clearly a corpse, Cho talking."
Finally separate issue — every dead motor vahovskiy now eats oil due to a factory defect in the opinion of the outbid. Yeah... Hitting 300-400 thousand, tied to 80 and "massager, it's turboveg" Oh brother...
MBDP
Why this machine is a corpse in your opinion
You wrote: "... and what about the motor and box I would bet. Goes to 1.8 if 160 horses cheerfully any other machines with dviglom 2.0. But there is clearly a corpse, Cho talking."
"If the car was perfect, as I said on the phone" — quote of the author. It is not something that is not perfect, it is a living space there, believe me, I have seen the perfect Quartet after 5 years of operation and with a run of 80-100 thousand. and they cost 800-850 already outbid. I.e. the Owners of their max 750 gave. Presents auto — rags.
and how else to call in a circle, and something like a battered colored car? If you Tinker, take the VIN to see what she was doing, there's a complete asshole, I Dodge this at 95%
Why this machine is a corpse in your opinion
You wrote: "... and what about the motor and box I would bet. Goes to 1.8 if 160 horses cheerfully any other machines with dviglom 2.0. But there is clearly a corpse, Cho talking."
Could.Just remind me what it was 4 PTFE back.Although, as principle, I see no difficulty in the definition of junk.
This A4 is junk, there are living machines for the money, but they leave swoop in allawah not.
And what about the motor and box I would bet. Goes to 1.8 if 160 horses cheerfully any other machines with dviglom 2.0. But there is clearly a corpse, Cho talking.
The most important thing! It is to ask a knowledgeable person to render a verdict on a typewriter! And to solve already to the buyer, to take or not to take ;)))
the dog is your father. not notice because shit, no one pays attention. ahaha))) discard her better
Dog, you were driving? The doors were closed by the 60-key? Went? No? Well, Seeley and not put out then. Bitch.
those who believe in the word of consumption is small. Checked it's only time. And obviously if the blue smoke goes.
Allexandr
Yeah fuck it so Goram need... half a liter on 1000km and not the fact. this is crazy!
you can lie and say that does not eat. Do you like it? Assholes
Discussions about the painted — unpainted cars... Usually this situation occurs. Come to the market three dudes in baseball caps, one of them with a purse. Those without handy start charalabidis around the Bazaar, his casinomore for all machines on the market, even those that are not sold, simultaneously bargaining with everyone and saying that the car bits in the moulding, this step-pisalka etc, etc. And they do it until you find a pot-bellied man with a tsepura trading ekstrapiramidna necessarily black or gray - microadvantage color, with black interior, icons, and rubber mats. And when a pot-bellied man with a tsepura pulls out of the glove box SERVISNIJ the Book, a dude with a purse gets out of the purses wrapped in newspaper a wad of money, and becomes a happy owner of extrapremises. Then this dude rolls around six months, telling everyone a beautiful tale about небитнекрашенкупленудиректорарынка, terribly proud of himself, until one night wipedia drunk in the neighbor's fence. Phatasses over his head, he drives away the stricken magazadan in the garage to the Uzbek Ulugbek, and the use of NOVOL and Carolina leads all in original form. Then the unfortunate owner magazadan begins to bear the thought of selling cars, and that it's already broken, and getting older and losing resale hard earned on trade tomatoes denyuzhku no way☝. So this dude puts magazadan for sale, not bits do not paint, the price is more expensive than bought. And now he is sitting about a year at every Bazaar, every weekend in your mahosadha, simultaneously zasrat his sunflower seeds and cigarette ashes, it's not serving, and why, anyway the cart sold. And here come to his boys, who just got my license, dad gave a little money, and buy magazadan. And they don't give a fuck, beat it, paint, it eats oil, not eating, in front of them only like Chicks in miniskirts jump and jump and jump on the back of the sofa... And these patiki, pretty bargain, give the dude cash cutlet, which he wrapped in a newspaper, hides in the purse, and the next day goes with two dudes in baseball caps look new unpainted magazadan...
What am I? Yes to the fact that it's all true, plyat, materialistic, and boring.
Mironov22
Well, that's exactly what in comparison. For in comparison with fast cars... Well you know)
And who compared with fast cars, then ? I naturally wrote about the segment of this car. And he is good.
Well as 1.8 to compare with fast cars? No way. Need in its segment to compare, but in its segment it is cheerful.
Well, that's exactly what in comparison. For in comparison with fast cars... Well you know)
She very cheerfully edit it for your motor. And she brings down not only after the Lada, but after all Koreans for example.
well, I don't have 300 HP, I say, my coming down how. All in comparison.
What's the 335? When a person writes "fells more like" in the car either 300+ or he rode Zhiguli.
Mironov22
OOO yeah, just coming down hard, probably leaving from the Priory.
Normally she edit. You don't compare with the 335 ;)
"she's on the monodrive she has a motor with a milk carton and the box CVT, the sales are not a robot! It's not fast, she does not give emotions, it's expensive and old." — it is generally not in cash. This motor knocks and how. He will give the drain a light around gonochorism fashionable the avtohlama. And with a chip, so do be healthy. And 6 buttons in the cabin is for the author of a scattering of buttons? Yeah, well, miserable Korean-Japanese dashboard simply perfection. How many have I done in the Japanese, the Koreans, the Italians and the French, which had to manage not 5 and not 10 minutes, so better ergonomics and readability of the instrument panel than the Vaga is not and will not soon be none of them. Confirmed by personal experience. The body design is of course a controversial thing, it's a matter of taste, but kurashina fast boring, but the designs of cars of the big German three have always been, are and will be the benchmark. Any attempts Korean-Japonsko-Chinese design in vain, they are temporary and repeat each other.
That's how I read the blog but still can't quite get — what do you mean "painted doorways"? What openings? Where are they located? Well, it is a matter for personal control. If you like the painted body as a whole, to be painted in theory, should all, every seam and crack with a bolt.
And it's kind of not the 8 - th and 10-th year. After assurances from Vaga is coolant.
The consumption of 1000 grams for 1000 km can and is the norm for Germans, but certainly not for the Vaga. Consumption of more than 500g — warranty replacement of the motor Assembly.
Damn, that each opinion meet pearl. Where is it in the case where it is just rude... No offense. in this case, two of them, but just a killer.
1. A lot of buttons... just a lot, a heap, is not very clear...(C) HOW? In Audi's all very discreet, intuitive and understandable to almost anyone! Almost... I understand if we were talking about the Japanese or Koreans...
2. she has a motor with a milk carton and the box CVT, the sales are not a robot! It's not fast, it does not give the emotion (s)
Here I just under the table. Not even a robot! Seriously? DSG 10 g. better than the Vario? Or better yet like the Toyota was))) It's not fast? And to compare? If BMW M5 or C63, but if the Sonata, Camry 2.4 and other evil spirits, then hmm... nothing to say. Audi does not give emotions? Compared to what car? Toyota gives emotions or Hyundai? But damn, I esdev on old weaving blissed out and about today, do not say anything, even on front-wheel drive.
Nonsense, who you buy the car. Especially Audi.
12 thousand euros a good price for this condition.
I like that all his life considered type-Tronik great box. What she specifically does not like? Though, given the saying about the buttons ... can respond with
damn
I was wondering how you my car would have looked the price of which was at the time of purchase of 600 tons rubles and mileage 168 t km.
this car really did not look too although stocks in the rear and on the front to replace the front bumper I think you would have gasped...
watching your reviews I would my car appreciated
the rear bumper under the restoration and repainted(scratches and whatnot), the rear left wing repainted(to iron the paint had peeled on the arch), by far the under the hood repainted(a lot of points from chipping) so we have 34 thousand then again took off.
and on the technical side no problem.
Yes guys, you just had a snack, bought my Audi a 4,nothing good to say about it, he tells himself shit, by the way and sat down on her after Lancer 9,there is at least the buttons are smaller, but more reliable than any Audi, so it is better to drive, and sex is better with women and not with the car.my personal opinion.