BMW E90 . The choice of motor .
With the release of the E39 ,66 , 60 and 90 body BMW people had never stood earlier question .
— how much motor it less painful to take ?
It's never happened before .
Everyone knew that any BMW motor is gut and what it is, the better .
Any 6 cylinder engine E34 was a good, reliable and dynamic .
BMW decided to put the fun ends .
Why is that in all discussions of cars, especially BMW, people miss such an important detail like money . Well, about reliability not forget .
And so, what is the most optimal variant of the E90, in terms of price-quality-reliability drive ?
I managed to ride almost all variants of engines of this body . And often at the same time .
Let's start with the m3 .
I have to say, take the m3 as a weekend car it gluhovo event .
This machine, in order to take it new, drive in the tail and mane of EVRI dei, trunk, junk, full cabin of people, mother-in-law, seedlings, hoes, potatoes, buckets and other junk .
For that was the idea .
A very comfortable fast car .
Great chassis, fluffy box, the acceleration and the bluff .
It's all good if you the edge you need a big trunk and full-fledged 4-seater cabin .
My family have transportation for mothers-in-law usually go one or two, I don't need it .
Don't expect crazy bass and sounds . Goes, less mumbling, but no more .
The car for the weekend ?
I tried many times to force myself on the m3 , but all thoughts always ended the same, or rather different machines with tiny mileage used.from.
911 GT 3 odometer 2300км
430 full of opsn – mileage 1200km
612 manual gearbox (!) mileage 12T km
Lotus Elise ( new )
All these machines were cheaper than a new m3 !
What are the options with the m3 ?
And every day I had a Carrera, which is not worse than BMW .
Good fairly reliable car, but don't expect an explosion of emotion .
A normal variant for every day and if you take, then I would choose manual transmission .
love the coupe, but the m3 car commercials, I would choose the sedan they are very few and almost exclusive
335 . Everyone knows that you can take 335 and easily turn it on dynamics in the m3 .
Can . But only on the dynamics and no more .
Comfort, acceleration and that's it . Absolutely soulless and dead motor in stock .
Quiet, dull, a lot of show-off, leather, mug, monitors...
A bunch of friends who are with the service they have not looked back .
New cost money, b.from. all were tortured and depressed young people, the normal variant is very difficult to find .
What to pay for this car ? and forever hangs in the service and sales tax .
My opinion is, if you take, it is better to add and take much m3 .
This is not an option .
335д .
And here IS the solution !
Few people went to this . I was lucky .
Yes, what can I say about the lower classes... While you are unwinding their beautiful tachometers on m3 335д will already be at another traffic light .
Thrust freaky ! Yes, a faint sound of a diesel is not the sound of the 430 , but in a 335 petrol nobility and power in the sound either . And this even pulls .
Gorgeous car and I'd choose it every day with pleasure .
Only they are not . This was only possible to import from Germany, but the price ( !), plus choice is also there not so great — all diesel engines have the horse just runs .
Full sizecan't breathe when I see this nameplate and in this color
325х .
My opinion is — the most stupid and annoying me with all the version E90.
I straddled her with 318 (!) E90 and not always.
The car is worth almost 2 times more expensive 318.
What do we have ?
Just dahlawi and always eating buckets of oil and gasoline motor .
How many motors were replaced at mileage 50K km ! and less .
In the BMW and so the buzz every body reduced to cut at the root need not be much — select x drive in your BMW will remain a BMW at all .
Yes, you will leave in the winter from snow and ice startanete on the first meters faster, but from the sharp and precise taxiing E90 you will not be over .
Machine is worth the money, you do it, and in response to a fresh machine that looks like a E90 , but it's not a BMW !
And it's not even the reliability, all the feelings — dead machine !
Even if I gave her would, I'd sell it the same day and forgot .
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318.
I could see the people laughing and not even having read scribbling comments and throwing stones and sticks at me .
How many times have I heard it all...
To understand the purpose of the 318 need to go to the other side .
And not with the m3 or 335д at all .
You forgot the money ? They're the most important .
Before the release of the f series 318 dealer sold somewhere around 1 million !
Million ! Yes, there is no skin . But there is xenon, Parktronic, comfortable climate control, and most importantly it does not have these stupid monitors and ay drive . I do not need to pay money I'm not ready for him, but for his absence in the BMW . ( and here this joy already in the database )
The weirdest item in the car that I was depressed is plastic spray painted with silver, wood, me more compassionate . But it was fixed equipment and there without it in any way .
In the rest of the options suited me just fine and I did not lack anything .
Drove a beautiful girl with great pleasure take it from her .
It categorically does not like leather and sport seats that were in it before that 118 .
I fully share this position . Never understood this rut at this Pont . We are both the Schwarzenegger and the sidewall is constantly under pressure . In winter, the fabric is not cold in the morning, and in summer it does not get hot like leather .
And with the run of the fabric looks much more alive than the modern skins Deputy .
Motor .
Full sizeYes, not luxury but all you need is a great seat and free wheel, multifunction, climate control, and an informative panel is not overloaded with unnecessary show-off
Yeah, no this is not a sport, but given the price tag, nobody's waiting .
That can be bought for million in 2010-2012 when it was all true ?
Chord Ponte ? Or Camry ? Plus minus were the price .
Why nobody cries that 325х not going or half Japanese or the Koreans are comparable ( and even many much more expensive ) price in the sensations generally douglasie horses ?
But why is the 318 got hit the hardest .
And don't forget that the car is for girls, many in GMT its dynamics is quite enough .
And yet, you buy at the price of the Japanese real BMW with an honest rear-wheel-drive .
You don't have fast acceleration, but excellent ergonomics, unbelievable, incendiary precise handling and very nice design .
Not all of the latter are much more expensive than standing BMW can boast such .
I'm in no way saying it's the best car, but considering its price this is a very interesting machine .
Funny to hear that BMW starts with 6 cylinders .
It was fair to 320 or 330 E46 , not E90 .
325 , 330 and 335 here there is no longer the most powerful sounds and feelings of power of the motor, just a little quicker acceleration, and no more .
Previously, all the engines BMW were approximately equally reliable .
And E90 according to my observations 318 and 320 almost the only reliable motor .
Of all requires attention only replacement maslosemnye caps times 100 .
And that's all . I mean go a few 118 and 318 , which passed the 200T without any problems .
People go, enjoy, and keep hearing some horror stories about their cars .
Excellent body E90.
Of the last BMW for me the best .
And design and on the go .
And even in the weakest 318 real drive and feeling BMW does no less than the modern f series with which a large number of horses and 3 turbines on the cylinder .
And my choice is .
If you take it as a working horse, the mind would have chosen not m3 and not a 330 and not 318 .
I'd take a 320 petrol plus chip, and even better 320 diesel . Not pursued b for options . A tape recorder without a monitor, nice wheels and wood . And that's all . And there were many .
The main thing is to get that oak always have shied away in any gauge flat wounds and put a normal rubber .
And for girls this is a great option .
...but if the mind...but the heart wants more ...335дизель soul loves...and because she and this is not enough...she wants more and touring...
Just the same, it is advantageous to assemble the motor than to buy a lottery in the form of a contract. All collected yet was not such which was to release only the top suffers. Not everyone knows about these motors as we for example, buy a on the ball type of chain motor means eternal but in this case, kui guess))) This is me one customer said motor while Shane bones mean)) I say Yes Yes show circuit after he says it I say no to your motor))))
Remembered Yes I also heard once about E60 535д with a broken chain far to go with the tow truck so I bought it (4K Euro stood restail on Fula) but the mileage was under 400 already. And SP said that was a month a strange sound on cold. So M57 is basically negligent owners.
If you search for pipette diesel then the M47
So) Let's order) When you buy a car with the N47 — just ask whether to change the chain. If you have not changed or there is evidence of replacement — let throws off the cost of a replacement (about a thousand dollars). doesn't want to throw — dosvidos, we find more accommodating.
About buying a car with a broken chain. Do not see the point. If only for a penny, and immediately to throw in her contract motor. cheap and cheerful
About the fact that the chain goes less strap — I agree, makes no sense whatsoever. But then another chip — you know that the belt runs off 50 thousand. Circuit lottery. Maybe 150 to run away, and maybe by 25 tear. Yeah, eyeglass.
About torn chains M57 — heard and very much on М57N2. All on heavy machines and run more than 200 thousand. In fact, for this reason, in his car chain and changed.
About the fact that the motor shit. I agree, but with reservations. Better this shit than malogorski. Just need to take that anyhow and to look at both in the diagnosis.
The buyer bought stuck on a chain and immediately after poured the bucket. Just bought it her for the market and not for the hat crackers the problem. My gift is a bucket do not need for example even for a hat crackers with paranoi chain.Although a lot of dealers do)))
Here is another question the circuit that goes smaller belt, what's the point? You have often heard about break the chains on M57 and derivatives? Even the old two litre M47 and M51 even still running with a native chain.
For example, I have not heard about the torn chain on M57 and to change it you need if you want it tisam to 500 like other normal motors and then we do not need.
BMW itself admitted that the motor shit on new cars pipette motors now take the dog (1.6 HDI) as do many manufacturers.
Well, look. The circuit was changed to 92. You came on 235.140 thousand mileage between replacements. If you take the average a mileage of 15 thousand km per year (as in Germany) is almost 10 years of operation. I bought the car. Changed the chain and all go! It is unlikely you will be 10 years to ride it. And your buyer after the purchase, will also replace the chain, and also will travel. What is not an option?
On account of not riding benzow agree but н47 if it was still as sweet as you Varghese on account of the chain. I changed the chain on the machine where you already OFI changed the circuit after the break on 92ткм and 235ткм she stretched and proskachila on several teeth a total of 8 valves in the dust! So, hell it has not improved rather it is not torn but stretched.
On the go — and suggest. If you do not take into account the M57 and N57, I would suggest the M47 or N47. Certainly better neededa eating butter buckets of Benzino. And that rumbles strongly agree, no argument there. My М57Н2 near N47 did not hear
Well super take н47 then well you 6 boilers we suggest that? I changed them enough at the time of these circuits and assembled engines after the break they are only good for those who do their repairs not to mention the sound of their work is the feeling that there from the factory that it is not twisted. And on account of the flywheel I know that they have put more with M51 BMW only now they fly on н47 more often than all other engines combined.
n1tronick
The author what inspired you to write this opus? Killed me the ending I would have bought disny motor and diesel and to break the circuit every 90 thousand and my mechanic will go to Gucci. You know the design of the n47 engine? There single circuit located at the rear of the motor which is not nursed and 100 thousand and to replace it you need to remove the motor not to mention the repair after breakage)) and limasovy the flywheel on mechanics which razvalivaetsya.
Opus is on the verge of delirium. N47 for a long time already change the chain, stupid propuska box and nothing removing. It's cheaper and faster. The joint was fixed officially, put details of the new sample after you purchase and ride at your pleasure. About the flywheel — neighing. Did you know that the dual-mass flywheel is from the time the E46 dorectal, that is, almost 20 years?
It is not that it is a dead end, or old, as shit of a mammoth, not at all, not to be confused. Rear-wheel drive is still the best base for racing cars and part of the balance gives a head start to the front and complete. Just in the mass market, where the man in the street driving skills as ostrich, this handling drive no one will appreciate it, and most won't even feel. But a transversely mounted motor all like it, the interior is more seats and front drive steer easier in the civilian regimes. Well, in the production peredneprivodnyh easier and cheaper. That have happened, that rear-wheel drive to the mass market — something rare connoisseur... Hamsters want front-wheel drive and vote for him the ruble, the automakers and adjust. But, damn it, to call it a classic layout engines "dead end" is a strong delusion.
An analogy: in the modern musical market, 90% of the music for my taste — a rare garbage and "pow-pumas", some flailing, sorry. But most of it listening to most of the "NERICA". And what now, classical music listens to very few people is a dead end? Not at all. The movement of the masses do not always say what is good and what is bad. In the end, humanity is sometimes like a swarm of flies — flies on...well, obviously, in General.
3ergood
Yes, what sort preemstvennosti and traditions, a grandmother they began to put the engine transversely and front-wheel drive push, all that era of continuity in the BMW ended up with this. And so they hung in there, let's give them credit: rear-wheel drive has long been anyone in the nation does not need and pity. Only enthusiasts. Now they will just go on design and big names, well, maybe even try to save the reputation of driving cars. Trivalosti this is purely synthetic — the steering is artificial, the habits of the Bavarians RWD with good weight distribution will be simulated with electronics, the sound of the exhaust and the roar will play into the cabin through the speakers. But if you turn off the brain, sit behind the wheel and not think about what "silicone Tits", it goes it's all really good!
Everything is logical. The idea of facing them longitudinal in-line rear-wheel-drive became extinct as Neanderthals. Obvious dead-end, which kept too long
Alpinsky
For such a rare ideal? )))) 600 thousand is expensive for this legend ? )))))
A link to the announcement anywhere?
TAXS1ST
In General surprised! This weekend was wound to Moscow, despite the fact that sometimes the speed was 140 and above, the average turned out around 80, so somewhere there is a repair roads, where the camera, where the road has only the name, etc., My trip to 800 km lasted 12 hours + 2 stop for 15 min.
This is an average of 60, not 80 ...
all depend on the machine, on Toyota I after 500km, exhausted, on a normal car the day a penny to go without problems
In General surprised! This weekend was wound to Moscow, despite the fact that sometimes the speed was 140 and above, the average turned out around 80, so somewhere there is a repair roads, where the camera, where the road has only the name, etc., My trip to 800 km lasted 12 hours + 2 stop for 15 min.
WDB126
I travel constantly to the region and them leave always 2000km in one sitting
All the rules on ordinary seats
2000 km in one sitting, this is how many hours behind the wheel have to sit in 25 — 30 or go with an average speed of 250 km/h?
Lenny079
that is, to drive in rear-wheel drive car everyday — it is better suited 120d on the handle?)
With IOS
I am also a little swollen from this opinion of the author...as if he does not understand what he writes=)
Dear, read the paragraph above the author to understand that with this comment you, sorry, rose, not in cash.
Similar models of previous generations (was 330 in the example) according to the author just the same have the power and sound of the engine, but the 325, 330, 335 (based on 335 here it is about E90 body) with this case the span.
My personal opinion is that all just the same Vice versa, but that is another point. But the fact that this argument according to the author promotes the purchase 318i on the principle "and so there is all you need", and the extra moschscha on the N52 — it is a trifle not worth asking for this amount.
How many ambitions! I'm will not going to prove... calmer. And it was about the same models of previous generations, not 318.
So do a CAREFUL reading of the article.
"In 325 , 330 and 335 here there is no longer the most powerful sounds and feelings of power of the motor, just a little more acceleration and no more" (C)
The phrase belonged to the 318th thou Cho!
Did the author actually believes that only the strict 330i 318i faster ? Atmospheric 330 TIMES faster than a 318, and it's not just the acceleration from 0-100. At all speeds 330-Aya allows you to prise off the motor additional resources for performing the maneuver, while the 318-th already with three people in the cabin dies every recruit kilometers.
If you consider the E90 as a car for the whole family, no 318 I wouldn't even think to take this Vario is best left to uneducated blonde who only knows that she has a "red BMW", these will still go in the right series for vans. If there is a need of a certain freedom in making maneuvers, the 325 at least. But since the N52 motor is 2.5 liters, and indeed problematic, it would take 330 and soared.
335 that the diesel engine that Benz is for gourmets, for people who know why they need a complex turbowire motors.
With regards to the design, as for me E90, and E60, E65, E63 — all one barglowski school, which rushing from all angles. Another thing the E92 is the first sedan BMW 3 Millennium, which allowed me to exhale in the knowledge that E46 is not over a true Bavarian form.
I do not agree on 335, great motor if there is not 250 thousand, and there are no special problems, the main thing for oil to keep by the way he is not eating if always oil during a change. About 318 for Lam know, he wanted to take, but the trick is that then ф30 320 on the machine in the base cost 1290, then Yes, the same discount was the friend took her for 1200, and 184 turbo power is another story.
Well as you can about each successive generation to speak about auto industry in General
If you want a BMW it is better to dig and to take the F30
E90 is not traveling Antiques have been...
Was still 325 for America, with 3 liter engine and pre-tax . That's where the Golden mean. Though the mechanics did not seem to be. For the American, 3 pedals, well, you understand ...
Well, here, as gritstsa, or beautiful with a perfect figure, already worldly-wise men and who knows how much in bed or pimply ugly virgin, blushing at the mere mention of the word of three letters ;) Everyone chooses himself)
Alexi87
What is scary then? The numbers on the collection tubes? Who cares if the car is alive and will long to please? Even mileage more than at similar Benzino? My 200 thousand recently exchanged (the original, not folded) in my arms — a little more than 35 000. Even a single joint for all the time use as a watch.
Well, you're stuck to the man! Well, neither does he want with high mileage woman. They want a girl with almost zero ! it is clear to you?! 😝
great description for those who want to understand the meaning of BMW. concise and interesting. it was a pleasure to read.
IRONBalantree
Have You noticed how it became a bad interior with every model?
in E36 interior materials was comparable to any seven. in the E46 was not a hint of compromise, and here on you — following model and oak plastic as in the Prior. and then in the top five. and the smell, the smell began to disappear gradually :(
didn't notice oak plastic yourself
BMWE ended in the early 2000s, as a car is unnecessary. And the farther the closer to hunau. I'm afraid to imagine the design of the new three-pointers. Best dviglo it ATM. in any case. With vanoni and diseu. Or 5 litres but with 4 valves per cylinder:-). or Stroker. Supercharged good as extra to the already vysheozvuchennoy deglam and better drive the compressor. inflated the juice pack for the characteristics with the passport and students. To inflate, too, should be able to not simply raising the threshold bloof. For example, to blow Saab can only at home. Second time — brakes, chassis, manual transmission gearbox. otherwise it is the tractor to dredge. or NASCAR.
on things like seats and steering wheel can not speak.
Diesel and BMW? let's put in the 911 series for the curtain.
I would say quite expensive without holes, but is only closer to Moscow region...in all other areas so Dai caught the dimple. The Japanese is nothing in Behe lever replacement.
so, too, thought that the 318 is enough. but a ride recently, disappointed well not impressed at all.
and generally came to the conclusion that to drive a BMW need a good smooth roads.
smilevrn
I know in comparison to BMW and the Japanese everyone will choose their own, but I have made a choice in favor of the Japanese, due to the situation in the country.Think is not right to compare kamri and chords E90 well, at least not correctly.BMW is just a car for showing off, well, not as Japanese, there is nothing pantovogo is just popovska every day.But if correct to compare the same with the e60 Camry and accord, the choice of a normal person watching their pocket would certainly not at BMW.BMW car off!
The opinion of the villagers
totally agree!3.0 diesel! although the "driving" September motors BMW from 2.3-to 2.5 ranked last in terms of reliability, and the Camry 2.4 1st ))))Here so)))
2 litre diesel, gasoline n13, well, in my opinion, just about the legend three-liter diesel
well, if someone needs a proper engine and chassis and do not care about these monitors, and so on? also a bluff?
I know in comparison to BMW and the Japanese everyone will choose their own, but I have made a choice in favor of the Japanese, due to the situation in the country.Think is not right to compare kamri and chords E90 well, at least not correctly.BMW is just a car for showing off, well, not as Japanese, there is nothing pantovogo is just popovska every day.But if correct to compare the same with the e60 Camry and accord, the choice of a normal person watching their pocket would certainly not at BMW.BMW car off!
I don't see the point in taking the car without options. monitor and others, and even vegetable motor 318.
612 and 430 is Ferrari about it? Is cheaper than the m3? Or car Prometheus brought this "fire" people, or am I underestimating the m3 at a price.
Good article!It is necessary to think a head...always)))I want the IPU.but...common sense and opportunity to leave this idea in my head)))
I agree - any diesel for three perfect. As for the drive, and the consumption and reliability.
Agree with you... Even if you would have given-would have sold immediately ))) That's just the motives are different )))
Modern BMW generally only with a diesel engine can take, even N47 with its sores are not as scary as modern bentincki.
It turns out I have some flaws in your understanding =))) 330 diesel touring. On the rear wheel drive such did not find, tell me, is there any sense to bother to remake a rear-wheel drive it?
DmitryT888
And it is quite possible, because this unit from instance to instance is very different as the oil appetite, and temperament.
Don't remember if there was some improvements with the facelift, but I went to DirectLOGIC 325i and 325Xi - full of corpses, as well as the restyled sedan 325Xi (the Owner sold a year old car because I was afraid to sleep on the go from boredom), but dorustilavat E92 325i on the handle was a little brighter at the top.
The machine has manual mode, so between us...and then the top.
And that would be aspirated had no sound? Facepalm! Try a normal bottle for him to wear, and if you remove the resonator... will be stoked
SHHCG
Still say to you that this hump in the center of the torpedo like).
Bmw е9х without the hump not taken...
First, the skin is shit not only in bemeve, second, sport seats and an oak model mileage 1500 per night tries not necessary, the third author had in mind that m3 for that money that ask for the ratio price-quality is not covered by 320д. And nasua I monitor the machine on which the transport to arrive, to leave, to throw in the trunk purchase?
From the above I realized that:
M3 — shit to carry seedlings
335 — shit, because it is comfortable and fast
325 — shit, because the engine has to be replaced by 50ки and do not BMW
Sport-seat — shit, because the author of the fat
Leather is shit, because between bullock sweats
Monitor, sat NAV, decent music and a Bluetooth — just like that shit
318 — zaebtsa because the drum is cheap and gives pleasure from taxiing BMW despite the lack of proper suspension and brakes.
Oh, and most importantly, 335д — chariot of the gods and inspects M3. Too bad it is virtually impossible to buy in Russia, the more so, that was how, without seat, without leather, without a monitor, and of course the barn)))
Did I miss anything?
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