422. Audi A4. Or how to look petreski?
Hi All. At the end of the post answer to the question in the PM. Below You will see first hand the condition of the car cost more than 550 000.
It's German, as many people like. Machine for taking pictures of girls, car show, car for an enjoyable driving machine for fun. And it is, just as 6 year old creditpolicy! So why do people take all sorts of shaft of Kia-Hyundai-Octavia, etc., and do not take an Audi A4? Let's see in this post.
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I will write to You that You could buy for the money, and will show the status of the Audi A4, and everything will fall into place. In this post, I beg You, write in comments, would You have a car, or could You recommend someone such a machine? At the bottom of the post, I'll summarize the inspection, and most importantly, there is a video which clearly shows everything, and there are my comments. Start viewing post with the video as the pics I'll post a few. I also explain who is buying these machines and why it can not buy. At the end of the post I will mention why people began to take budget, but new cars, and why around 10-year-old Germans do not enjoy any demand.
We'll start at the beginning and in order, with the description ads. The most important thing I noted with a marker.
All used to believe the listing description! And from this it follows, and I quote — car home PAINT! Motor the best and most reliable. All gaskets replaced.
What does it mean? This means the machine is ideal! And despite age, it still will give odds to any Solaris-Rio Seeders-Manduka-Octavia and other vehicles. And all this in the budget of those creditopolis! This is often write to me in comments that I'm not so often read, as before:) Let's You watch the video below and then view the photos because the video is not all!
Well that looked?
The machine is completely repainted. It is not in their native paint, she painted everything! And how beautiful it looks on the photos, even by my note. But it's only ten meters.
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The seller mentioned to me such a thing, even a new machine can show the thickness of the paint, that is double the factory color. And he's right! Indeed, it is on the VAG it often enough, and not only on the VAG, and the Koreans, it happens. The main thing to understand, whether it is a factory color.
Cerato. Rio. Rapid. Octavia. Ceed SW. Magentis. Mondeo. Mazda6. If I found the car?
But unless all openings paint also dust and remove all body elements?
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Is putty in places and snot on the paintwork this is a factory color?
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Then we go further.
You saw in the video all the schools machines. List and calculate how much it costs to finish the car only on the body?
— Both bumpers repainted. I agree, it is possible to score.
— Both rear wing repainted.
— All the face repainted.
— Doors repainted.
So we can remove the stocks, you need to paint 100% car. 100-150, 000 the price of this pleasure, occasionally making body, but by examining the car, there is still a lot of interesting things, I'm sure.
— The windshield also changed, with such a glass and a reconciliation can not take place in Chelyabinsk.
But the video was not all the schools machines. Also on the trunk lid there are shoals, and on the front wing there are more schools, and a lot of what I just shot! And just so you know, I 100% found, not all, I'm not the owner of the car, and 20 minutes is not the fact that all will see and all about it know, so considerably more.
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In addition to bodywork, it's time to just change tomance and headlights. Yes, of course, can not do anything and the car will drive, but You want to drive this car in this condition? Personally, I do not. YES, the girls are 17-year-old she the effect, but those who know about cars, with a laugh, refer to this.
To replace the optics worth the money? I don't know, and I will not look. But both headlights from muddy run. They both scratch, printerdata two sides, polishing already there is simply nothing.
I always say that BU German, if it is not a guarantee or not about the warranty, it is simply a dead guy, which makes no sense to buy generally, if you calculate its attachments. You do not realize that they are buying, of course, only then without But not all people understand how to actually look these cars.
Hydraulic bonnet stay is as comfortable and cool right? But, unfortunately, it tore off the hood, as you will see in the photo below, the token I said.
Also, I marker noted as painted the hood. You see this orange peel? Of course about double the factory color to not speak at all. With this machine and a feeler gauge are not needed at all.
On the hood there is no sound insulation. Where is she? Probably disappeared with time.
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Under the hood we have an engine 200 forces, and how we remember it 5 times in a row took the prize for engine of the year! And if you just put the photo of the motor, then it looks beautiful.
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But if you look closely, you can see that he's covered in oil. ALL. The antifreeze from the pipes flowing, all right, if a pipe. Box oil, drive oil, all oil. The crankcase can be seen that oil flowing. At the time of shooting of the first video, the hood I haven't opened it, and immediately said that the leak is there. My question is — where is the oil flowing? No one will answer, it is necessary to wash and then observe. Whether to change the pads any? Can't exactly answer this question, but looks like did not change anything. Perhaps the information that this motor is reliable and what condition is it in here — it's one and the same?
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I You photos not even all of the leaks did. And these will be enough. The seller says so changed fuel pump, pusher. 12 compression in all pots except for one, one for 10 points. Makoare as such, no, but eats a little oil.
And let the salon take a look?
And that's beautiful, comfortable seats! And the condition is good, for his year, but as everyone likes to say they properganda and old, and sit in them want not everyone. Time spares no one.
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And little things like a leaky pad, worn steering wheel, etc., repels buyers. No one wants to take the shabby car for half Lyama. Girls that do not look, they look at the rings on the grille, which sheds chrome. Chrome all sheds on all sides.
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Also, people always write that German cars overtake your time! Looking at the center console, I just feel funny:) She is originally from the 1990s:) Awkwardness, strange buttons, disc radio, etc. Very modern looks, to put it mildly. What is the use of the disc changer? Does anyone still listens to CDs? Among my subscribers are?
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Then we had a "test drive", or rather I drove the car. The chassis according to the seller moved, but stands are BU. Talkie in hodowca is. What do You know about chassis Audi A4?
On the muzzle of her lever How much is it?
1. VAG 8E0 407 509 P Arm left rear upper 1 piece 1 days.5 698 R.
TRW JTC 345 suspension Arm 2 PCs 5 days.2 356 R
2. VAG 8E0 407 693 AL Guide arm 2 EA. of 3 days.165 p. 12
Moog VO-TC-8229P suspension Arm 11 PCs 2 days.3 182 R.
3. VAG 8E0 407 151 R control Arm front 1 PC 1 days.10 R. 769
TRW JTC 936 suspension Arm 1 PC 1 days.3 413 R.
4. VAG8 E0 407 505 P Arm front left upper 1 PC 1 days.3 825 R.
Moog AU-TC-6995 suspension Arm 2 PCs 3 days.1 814 R.
I showed You the price of the original and not the original. Multiply the price in half, because these arms for one side only. There plus the work on the replacement for the SRT, it's not MacPherson, who to touch and work cheap and for parts, this lever from Audi, which may not take place even a year after replacing our Ural roads. In service where I look at cars once a year to replace all levers come postanski on the A6, not always original, always on a maximum of a year it is enough. But as said its owner, profitable many times cheaper, than at once to throw a large sum of money.
Just do not forget that all-wheel drive, respectively, more parts, CV joints anthers, which sometimes require replacement, more seals and other things. I won't paste parts, it is not cosmically expensive, just a lot of moving parts in hodowca who die. Eventually everything dies. But an old car of course the ideal will never happen, and most likely You will have to do.
To "test drive" I asked you to kill the floor! What? I think she's going? I say to the seller, no odd "WOW" I don't, it will overtake any of the Skoda RS, and just a Skoda with engine 1.8 CDAА, not stitched in 152 horses will leave from this Audi. But the seller says that I want much from the machine that had four-wheel drive and a lot of weight, and that only in winter at Audi understand what four-wheel drive, and in the summer she's just popovska and no more. And I will tell You that fatigue of the whole and the whole makes itself known! New it rode better, and much more. And here we Prokuplje on it, and then I shot another video. Asked to press to the floor to see what would fly out of the pipe.
And now I'll write the result of the inspection, and why can't it buy?
Even after a simple inspection it is clear, the machine requires a lot of attention! To do hodovku, motor, body, tires, and even whether it is not right with a hernia, which is also not a plus machine. To buy this car not consciously impossible. Painted all the doorways too! And you know, there spakle low, and I didn't find vzajemnosti, more like paint updated. But again, painted doorways, to me they will not rest never. I'm human, I may be wrong, I just need to protect yourself and the client, and say that taking it is not necessary. I don't know what it was, but to say that it is 100% updated the color I can't. It's too much responsibility. To bring to perfection the machine requires about 200 – 300 000. And for 850 000 rubles that you can buy? Audi A4 year 2010-2011 about, maybe younger, and there will not be such problems at least. A post about a more recent A4 will be soon.
Who can I buy it?
Someone who understands this car. The one who will be able to do everything and not spend a lot of money. Or someone who is ready to invest in it, just because he likes her, a kind of Acacius of our time! But she will ask for money constantly, it will never end, and we must be ready! The machine is also suitable to someone who will put everything out there, and will roll it on, until she dies in the end.
Show-off.
Yes, the Germans in Russia is a show-off. And take them for the transport of Chicks. But the women of today are not stupid, and Cayenne, the new from the old to distinguish steel, and even a 10 year old Audi from fresh tell even more so. And if it is to buy a young kid, not thinking, not assessing everything, then maybe the girls he will ride the tram, because there know better, and money for repair will not be simple.
Why buy creditpolicy?
Is it a difficult question? Seeing this condition, do you have any more questions, why people prefer to creditmany? But I'll explain. People, and my clients, and personally I'm just all in a row, the machine is necessary for what? TO RIDE. This is the main function of any cars, except sports cars. A car should drive. 80% of Russians can't afford to invest in the machines all the time! They need more or less reliable, the car and everything is there, and to more or less bearable for the money to fix it, and not standing in the garage for years, and originally bought the car as fresh and alive. And Yes, many people will prefer the hard Kia Ceed than the Audi. Others, buy the Octavia A5, and also just to ride.Third buy the Chevrolet Cruze and will not care about the Ponte. And in Chelyabinsk, in particular 200 forces this is an expensive tax, and the most expensive insurance in Russia — in Chelyabinsk. Even just the tax + insurance hits the pocket, not counting repairs. And even because of this, these machines become illiquid, about what I once wrote.
The liquidity part 1
The liquidity part 2
The liquidity part 3
The liquidity part 4
Not everyone needs the thrill of driving, and not everyone needs four-wheel drive. Now I buy the crossovers on the front drive. To own a car in Russia is expensive, and owning an old car is even more expensive. Now the era of tubes and cameras on the roads, nowhere to drive, the handling on the track in city mode is simply not necessary! But to get from point a to point B all you need.
Why still should not take this Audi even if you want?
The Germans have a paradox. No matter even BMW's, Mercedes, or Audi. If you count how much money is needed to lead the ideal 10 year old car, it is cheaper just to buy a 5 year old German, and to ride on it a couple of years without problems! Otherwise, those 10-year-old Germans get worse and worse. They do not mend, and put on the course, that is just drive, and drive, it doesn't matter. And in the end we get such a car, as in my posts.
403. Mercedes W202 Rate.
401. The Old Mercedes. C class W202. For their love?
397. Mercedes 124. The video inspection. The total for the car.
396. Mercedes 124. What are the old Germans? If they are worth their money?
315. Mercedes C-class W203
Yeah, they're not all like of course, but even according to this Audi, she'll be good... And in turn is more expensive than half a million.
Why I don't do a search of these machines?
And how do I tell the client that this machine is good? Imagine, this machine is in General good(!) better perhaps would not even be in my city! Because it is not an outright beating, she runs and rides, which is not often the Germans these years. She is not from the motor spare, with no sound yet. But how to say take it?
But what are my risks — motor copany, tomorrow may be dying, call me and ask me about it.
The box was to die tomorrow, I'll ask.
Masroor buckets, again, as I couldn't see?
And stuff, stuff, stuff. The Germans are old and healthy never happens. I'm trying to convey to everyone. They all are. 5-year-yet there are normal, but the car these people are not worth generally, they travel a lot. I have not posted a photo of the mileage, and don't see the point. Is important to you, what's the mileage? In this car it does not matter, they are all dead, and there, on the flap does not make sense.
Why do people have to take on more new creditopolis?
It's very simple, looking at around 10 year old machines in the price more than half a million people are just not ready to buy them. What is there to pay that kind of money? After all, the residual life of these vehicles is extremely small! And if to collect it, and bring it to a good state, it turns out the price is simple, but new creditpolicy type Ceed and other cars With class. But people get not just a new car, they get a guarantee, get trouble-free operation, and receive options not found in older machines. Heated helm, a head - (and the forehead is not in the chips and cracks), multirule, rear view cameras, multimedia touch, navigation, and so on. Also get low fuel consumption, unlike the old car, less tax, and I can enumerate for a long time. Just people tired of poking around in old cars, they want to ride! Not all people are car experts and not for all taxiing or driving performance is important. People take what they like and that fit into their budget, regardless of the rest.
Why not buy old cars?
And why are they so expensive? In Europe the situation is different, and we are to do the same. No one wants to take the problem car expensive. To spend big money and get great problems it is necessary for someone? Yes, and the price of the old Germans, there are fresh creditpolicy. Few who are willing to give a lot of money for an old car, let it even reliable Toyota with the right wheel(for example Mark2), or Lexus or something. You will see Yapi hold the price very well, even when old, but as such the demand for them is very fallen in the last couple of years. And all because of the fact that they rolled in the wood, and asking for them a lot of money. And people are forced to take a budget car. FORCED. Because the prices of old cars inappropriately high in Russia.
So people take it — Post good machines. Corolla, Ceed, Octavia, Mondeo, Sportage.
Or is it, Kia Cerato coupe. The history of the purchase. And yeah, maybe she's not, but it works, and 50-100, 000 km drive without any large attachments easily, and its appearance and options like a lot.
People are willing to buy even this — 413. Hyundai Sonata. As his bought? And why? if only it went without problems.
And after this Audi, even looking at nearly new Led understand that he was still cheap — 406. What to buy on the machine, with warranty, in a good configuration for 750 000?, only 200 000 rubles more expensive than the Audi dead in the shoals, which is 8 years older.
And once it is clear, why take a new car budget — 394. Skoda Rapid Ambition 1.6 MPI. Because you can go without problems on them. Many even just the possession of a new car is fun! Not taxiing and handling characteristics, and it is the possession of a new car!
And looking at the old, dear YAP international understand immediately why no one takes. Perhaps even now this car is sold, and the seller thinks the market is — 388. What if you buy a Toyota Camry v40 ?
Also understand why I stopped taking Lancer, too Japanese, too reliable, but expensive, and for what? — 344. Mitsubishi Lancer X examination.
Many people just see how much deception with BU car, how many problems they can expect and then see these pintoresca live and go for a new car, because you can lose more, and the % on the loan now is not huge. And someone neznanke will buy it — 400. Hyundai Avante. Useful post for all. With Korea carry stuff?
And maybe even this — what if you buy a 4 year old with Superb mileage 70 000 km?.
And Yes, You can say that 2 million rubles for a crossover it's expensive — New Hyundai TUCSON. What to pay almost 2 million rubles, but people, looking at how doing a run of 100-200 000 km, easier will buy new now than vdohnut then — 359. But what if you buy a 3 year old Touareg?
People began to buy cars as possible fresh! And they are right! Because older cars simply ceased to be worth their money. If they had loved for a great resource, now the resource of these cars is not at all! I'll finish the post that I was watching cars with almost the real mileage, it was four. Four German cars, a couple of Tradewinds, a pair of Audi A4. And I'll show them all! And You will understand why people began to take the car fresh, even if it creditpolicy.
All over the WORLD. What would You bought? Audi or creditpolicy? Or some other pintoresco? It is in the comments.
Question — I Have Teana j31. 2006. Thickness gages checked everywhere 50-60. The hood and floor of the wing 100-120. How could such a thin layer of the clearcoat?
The answer really without seeing the car to answer 100% accurately, no one can. Maybe 50-60 it's the colors, maybe 100-120 is the colors. Clearly neither one nor the other, I will not answer. See the bolts and so forth. Again, polished the car?
Yeah, maybe a thin layer of LCP, consider no Polish at all, and 100-120 is a painted part.
Yes, it can be repainted it all, blew delicately, and blew out a thin varnish.
And the other option in life I came across.
I his saying, "creditpolicy" know not how to credit cars, how to junk/Chermet which people in the loan takes )))
muthafucka the expression of creditpolicy. write and talk well, but don't use this expression in your articles.
we have half the country goes on the credit machines and people will hate you.
To each his own, the author is right in that 60-70% can't AFFORD a 5-10 year old Germans, but in their hearts they would be happy to possess them, but that's barely enough money to feed a family from SN to SN, in the end, these machines are bought only by those who they really like, it will be empty appearance, show-off, or quality... Personally, I am completely satisfied with my www.drive2.ru/r/audi/1513279/ Audi A4, pure aesthetic pleasure from materials, soft plastic, etc. the author also touched on the subject of design, seriously? BMW that's where the clumsy design. In General "every frog will praise the bog", so either you can afford this car or not...
Damn, believe it or not, the demand is there even a 20 year old Americans! And to find such in a condition no worse than this A4 is quite real!
Reading these articles realize that the machines in Baku much more good as. Maybe this is due to road conditions and reagents which we have not used. And another fact, I do not know as there at you business with loans but to me, even if you take a new Korean car after 2 years, the loss in the price of the machine will be more than if you buy a 10 year German (in good condition, we are there) and to spend money on repairs for 2 years. At least with my calculations Koreans lose up to half the cost or so for these 2 years, whereas in German you will spend much less. If I'm wrong then email me your opinion. And picking quality so it seems to me that Koreans are still not up to the Germans even if the German 10 years.
And Show her competitors?drive-Quattro, if there is no information how it works -you need to teach the math part.the sores -during this period is full of information that as a body-who is it? In the Studio ! In conjunction ICIE -chip, or a K-04?Yes price, but how is the price a direct competitor for the loan?and where are they?salon from the 90s is the same as not to distinguish a Chinese watch with 24 tunes from the Seagull, worn belt, look dull, Golden body.
Taxiing and driving performance of bolshinstvu consumers not vagnv even in the new premium. What matters is the bluff and tchotchke.
Vladowski
you're a rogue idol :)
of course the Germans are more expensive to repair, and they are significantly more expensive. and stuff for 8K bucks of course will be rubbish. what the fuck will sell a good German price b/ear kiaria/Solaris/of polusidya?
Serge works for your audience. And the old Germans it was not his audience. But this theme is great it promotes in its audience.
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And I would take, not specifically this, but just the old German in good condition. What actually did. There was no money for anything better at the moment, and the pelvis enough already with the warranty cases 6 Grand a year. And Yes, bring a hundred a year, but taxiing and strong enough. Yes, the attachment is sometimes required, but forgiven for the pleasure of driving. I agree, I am sick and a lover of the brand, it would be the consumer attitude to the car-would take Solaris or similar and riding, bed not knowing, but that's boring)
Many people simply do not vkuril to forgive attachments)
zurab913
In General I pricing!At the time this car в2005г the DTM series was worth new about 850 t. p, which happened to ask for this stuff 550 t, R, the same applies to all that sell for 300-600 tons poluchaetsya how much was taken, for nearly as much and are trying to sell!That's just all that more expensive is sold very cheap!I have my 2.6 was taken, God forbid, that someone will give now 1 Lam!
Everyone is trying to "recoup the investment". And against the background of the car for 500-600 rubles, this price does not seem crazy
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As soon as enough courage, that's the kind of stuff to evaluate "excellent condition".
This is not the courage, and the calculation of the lohan
The article is good, though, and trolling.
Going with a girl on a date, you're not going to compare it with the last wife/girlfriend?
Audi is still a luxury, let's not forget that.In this case, it is very neglected luxury.And of course, it does not make sense to take, if you are a perfectionist.It is not economically feasible.But let me, if you have a cheesy taste to the new, but in Solaris, Rio, Lacetti you are uncomfortable and you have 50 in a month on the car, why not?
But you can not fifty dollars.Only on the most necessary to went.
I had a cheap German.Extremely cheap.For 1.5 years he ate 50 thousand rubles for repairs and service.If the cost of a kilometer, it is 1.7 p/Km.
It superbyudzhetnym.Provided that it does not cut out!
But he was just wound up and just drove.There was no zest, charm.And, at the time of departure from the car not want to turn around.
Yes, it was a Astra G.
The Germans, even live, still require attention, even if we take the ideal.
PS: this instance, the price of 200-250 thousand.And if European.
Zzy:in any case, a thorough analysis-5
Good work done!
The huskies put.
You zabanili on the website on? Clculator online works.
Belgorod oblast
www.nalog.ru/rn31/service/calc_transport/
The calculation of the tax for 12 months. 2015:
For vehicle: Cars
With the engine power (in horsepower): 200
Rate: 0 RUB 50 kopecks.
The tax amount will be: was 10000 RUB.
Chelyabinsk oblast.
www.nalog.ru/rn74/service/calc_transport/
The calculation of the tax for 12 months. 2015:
For vehicle: Cars
With the engine power (in horsepower): 200
Rate: 0 RUB 50 kopecks.
The tax amount will be: was 10000 RUB.
And 2016 will be the same 10000rub.
Why lie?!
About the cost of insurance, after your lies about the vehicle tax I was just silent.
In Chelyabinsk the most expensive in Russia, road tax and the most expensive in Russia the insurance coverage. no experience in prior insurance paid 20, 000+
About the transport tax — complete lies. For 2016год 200 forces will cost 10000r. also in the Belgorod and a pile of other regions.
To this fucking Customs Union of USA it was profitable to drive "slightly" broken "almost new" car.
For example, one-year-old 335xi with a funny run slightly hit in the wing just written off by the insurance company, and sold at auction.
Special guys are buying them on spec.prices, restore OEM parts, with a detailed description of the process. And sell for very reasonable money.
All fresh premium-car (and others of US to take stupid) are sold with free service package. So "uncle Bob" on the tools to go zero sense.
Not all the cars doing there in official service. In Russia, too, in the accident the car to penetrate, and that in fact? I think I know)
Check CARFAX it is necessary, but to think that if it is fine, then the car is good — it is IMPOSSIBLE.
If the CARFAX does nothing — the machine is not necessary to take, she was under a rider without service.
Normal credit cars in USA are sold with free service to 100ткм and entries will be at CARFAX, and mileage.
And since all new cars insured, any accident will be the basis of identity.
So I took the us — for $3 you can break through any from the comfort of home ;)
Regular service to 65тыс miles with a description, a few official surveys and no accidents (in the US they all get into the database). And of course southern state without snow.
Do you think the dealer will carry a good car expensive to sell to sucker in Russia)? What's the point?)
Yes, almost no winter, salt toss month of the year (I usually immediately wash off at the car wash for 10E).
Runs low, because everything is close and fuel is not cheap. I change the oil on time, once a year, not mileage (less than 10K passing).
There is the pits, really.
So not all cars from Europe cal (just read Your other growth). And mileage in some countries it's possible to see dealer stamps to check.
Just don't need to take a Frank meal because it is cheap ;)
You even winter is not normal, with reagents and gravel. How can you compare? We have not rotten Mercedes even.
old and not rotten. And the road heaven and earth against your.
The country certainly have an impact — I have all auto native suspension. And GL native air springs (sand and dirt from zero).
Just someone in the scrap to repair the car, pokk it goes. And the car lives on the street.
And someone reacts to every extra drop on the clean floor in a warm underground garage. And just following the manufacturer's recommended service manual ;)
The mind says it is necessary to take a fresh, marketable car, but the soul needs to find the most well maintained here is a Audi 2.0 all-wheel drive, leather, sunroof, and more. Such machines are, for whom follow, but adequate owners, even displaying a car for sale, honestly — the machine requires constant attention and investment of money, or at least always keep the N-th sum of money for unexpected repairs.
thanks for the review! Just thinking now what to take, I want exactly this, reading, a little better to me :)))
However, you don't like Germans and it is alarming, I read all your posts about the Germans and not a single positive review. And more alarming that the Germans you take in a certain price range, from 400 to 600 tons.RUB. Is now sensible to vest the money can not buy. But I dare say that 80% of buyers even look at these Laibach will not. The good German starts from 800-1 million.RUB. Something here not so!