Picker vs. AutoTech
This post was a long. The video on YouTube for a hundred years. But to make a version for the drive is not stupid enough forces. Then time. And then the story got unexpected continuation.
I think you've all noticed (because to ignore it is not possible), how sharply all the popular blogs the cracks began to get out of the service AutoTech.
To me they knocked on. Well, actually that's what happened.
My acquaintance with Autotakas not originally specified. About the service, I learned the stupid way: found the car together with the customer examined — all super. Shook hands with the seller (cute girl), and in the evening, the client sends a terrifying report that the car under the tank, twisted mileage and other horror stories. Night without sleep, exacerbation of paranoia, long negotiations with the bewildered mistress... In the end the machine is all fine, but refused to purchase because, as rightly noted by the buyer: "And how I then will sell?"
Needless to mention that the report was from AutoTech? In General, such is the case, I would be about him and not remembered... if not for the heap again.
I was looking for in the spring of Elk. Yes, not normal, and with "Anami". Their attitude to the Volvo I had long identified – the car is very serious and strong. And very underrated. Well, thank God that is undervalued.
Full sizeIf ikeevskogo meatballs are quite deeply absorbed into your DNA and old XC90 you started to like it, look for it with the 4.4 motor is a really good combination.
So. The elk I found. And by accident! And where it should not be!
The announcement of the sale of the eerie, the photos the photos to examine the car in zazhopinsky settlement, sells it to people who just took it... in short there were no signs of success. BUT! In the photo I clearly saw a super live moose! Though quite blurry. In General, went.
Arrived. Cold. The brightest spring sun burns the retina of the eye don't see don't. And not look too much, because from the first seconds fell in love with the car and have not heard anything and not seen simply as happy as a fool (that's here with me it already was).
In the end, we agreed that taking the car and drove off to withdraw money.
I'm usually not fond of checking for various databases (especially the necro-wood) and only trust the eyes. And here's something I decided to double-check everything well, and among other things threw 99 coins in the aforesaid service.
Pulled the rope and the monkey caught a banana... well, that is, received a report from AutoTech. And there...
And again. That I do not like to check on the bases. The investigation and encumbrance Yes, it is. And try to find the whole truth about the car via the vin at the current stage of development of our market — it "igrovoy" clean water.
So.
Full sizeVerification by the traffic police.Russia showed the crystal clear machine.
Full sizeVerification of the Autocode is a little strained.
But the car I saw, so decided that it was made out of some scratchy, yet it was hull. And now I open the report Autotek...
Report Autotek. And then the color of the spars, and airbags, and a new face and even the dashboard...
In General, sleep I for a day lost. Like and understand that it is unlikely such damage I may have overlooked, but the report seemed pretty convincing. And raise the insurance on the Volvo, which whole life is hanging on you – like-the twins are stupid, so this option seems to have disappeared.
In the end, instead of writing a post about the next revelation, I drop everything, again going in Novotorova, and put the car in service, which sees Volvo more than I do. Take a look and even (!) raise the car on a lift (once again convinced that you can see everything, but to soothe it was an important ritual).
Full sizeIn search of damage. That's what brings the report Autotek!
And nothing find. A rare case for the Moscow machine – for 10 years she didn't touch anything – everything is native.
Tutorial: How to check the car over
Full sizeFor a start a simple exercise — verification of marking glass
d-cd.net/H0AAAgOqf2A-960.jpg width=960 height=533 itemprop=contentUrl>Full sizeNot a large expansion by the year acceptable if they are the right and left are the same. Well, it is obvious that the glass must not be under the car.
Full sizeCheck of the fasteners of the hood, fenders and struts (they are in a strong accident often pulling out or oppression, from which there are traces (see the video about Starclass)). This exercise also everyone is able to master. However with age the dirt becomes a serious obstacle.
Full sizeTest fixture doors. Requires increased attention, since not infrequently the bolts are where they are not visible, plus do not forget that often disrupted the fastener tint
Full sizeinterior Inspection. Frank traces of an accident you are unlikely to find, but the deployed airbag / replaced and interior elements will certainly leave traces. So, the XC90 panel difficult to change without removing the glove compartment, and through his insides are poor connector airbag (melts when triggered) and its mount. Fired or replaced the seat belts are also not difficult to calculate.
Full sizedashboard on the old Volvos is often removed for winding the mileage (here its fasteners are pristine)
Full sizeOn most modern cars you can see the mounting of the instrument panel. If the airbag is triggered, for sealing broken of it must be removed.
Full sizeof the Estimated gaps (very problematic for Volvo at the junction of body repair) and spars. Barely squeezed across the V8 ate the entire place (even the dipstick Fig get) and to see something hard. The benefit of XC90 you can go back by simply removing the lights.
Full sizeExercise of increased complexity. Appreciate the side members, the cross member and their mounts from the bottom. If you don't know, looks like a factory seam (actually no one knows), then at least let the left and right everything will be the same. Welding marks and strange growths spackle or mastic in such places should be very alert
Well, for all the doubters and instrumental evidence
Full sizeTake a cloth, wipe the spar...
Full sizeAnd voila! Measurement of the thickness of the paintwork on the front of the spars and around the middle (top and bottom)
d-cd.net/00AAAgOqf2A-960.jpg width=960 height=800 itemprop=contentUrl>Full sizeAnd a little more into the topic of dispersion of the thickness values of the LWA. Here, even on the Chinese car everything is OK
Full sizeQuite OK
On the one hand, the dream coming back to me, and on the other an unpleasant appendage to the machine was formed... Like some mutki insurance was... and finally, now any fool can go to the glass, punching machine and start to squeal, that Autoramitra rides in total.
And then the mail drops a letter, whether from AutoTech felts from its advertisers. Well guys write, saying "Monsieur Autoramitra, not if you please you a wonderful to advertise our service in your blog?"
Tell them that they are very in time turned, as their miracle service me rather puzzled, has described the situation, told what and how, and received the answer, which I quote almost verbatim: "do not know, we have a mega awesome service!"
Well, actually all. They merged, and I don't feel the need to continue some communication with such a constructive position of the representative of the service. Just made a conclusion that the service hat.
And that's probably, humanly it was not correct. And he was a man who shamed me, who explained that anyone has the right to be wrong, and that to understand how it happened — my duty.
The name of this car Messiah – Paul Karin PavelCarin. And your debt I neatly hung on him...
To say that Pasha is good, this is called "Turbo S" fast, ie, nothing to say: he began to dig with such zeal and extract not produced with such speed that I quietly provigil and decided to continue to be cautious with him
In the evening I again deprived of sleep and reason – all the same Autotecha. Pasha wrote: Found the report of an expert who evaluated the machine, the machine is really broken, tomorrow will be photos.
Not well, okay? Under night. And the movie already was released...
In General, the whole head I broke, HOW CAN you RECOVER a machine from a total while in the morning he finally fell asleep, not finding the answer.
The long-awaited call from Pasha, excited as always the voice on the other end reports that Volvo really was without the muzzle... JUST COLOR IT SILVER!
Another day of journalistic investigation and found out that the car with the same vin is partying somewhere in the Samara region (it seems), estimated coverage in Ufa (sort of), and that all this smacks of what we all thought. It remains only to understand who "the double".
Pasha is clearly in shock, and here-here will reveal some evil scheme...
But in the end everything is simple, you just have the vin of my car ends in "4", vin a wrecked Volvo to "9". The report was written by the hands of someone didn't understand the handwriting, when I enter the data in database. And so it happened one very puzzled by the pick-up. Here it is the real price of all these reports!
Now what I did not understand. All this investigation and zakapyvanii to the bottom did not Avtotekh, and Pasha! Despite the fact that it is known that the guys in Autotake was aware of this history and time to understand (and opportunities) they had a lot. In the end they all brought on a platter, they fixed it, and now paying again 99рэ I can confirm that the service is really good.
By the way, to turn a trick in the blog, and personally tell "what and how" representatives of AutoTech in the end did not want to, but mentioned that it would be great if Autoramitra would have written that they fixed it.
Write: Pasha Karin AutoTech fixed it!
But it's really about something else.
I'm not against cool ideas! And the idea is cool and very needed (especially on the surface)! I'm not even against the curve of implementation – all know where I live.
I am against aggressive promotion, given the fact that everyone understands where we live. Early billboards around the city to hang, Donati bloggers, and paste everywhere the button "check for 99 PE"
Because I have statistics of use Autotakas until we get the following: from 10 cases in 2 cases the right and 1 wrong, in 7 cases NO, IT is NOT at all! Pay 99 rubles and get info, which can be obtained free of charge from Autocode or traffic police.Russia
In short the benefits of AutoTech yet, as much of online casinos: it is legal is good, the interface for online casino suciency is bad.
Any exposure with it has not happened yet, no rewound mileage is not pulled, and in those cases, when Autotake specified total, it will see even a blind man.
And again, the idea is great and good! But not for a year or two will pass before you will learn you will find the normal way to fill the database. In the meantime, all dealers have an internal order outfits that never go away. Bought long ago got used not to Shine the car and the mileage. About the insurance, I generally keep quiet, but everyone understands that written off vehicles are not under pressure.
And in General, I think the creation of such services and obligations on its content must take the state. The time has long come. And while we have chaos. The same AVinfo, do not argue, rescued. But the availability of personal data, even infuriates me.
Well, morality. We live where we live. Base need, but we have them just learn to cheat. Already, many insure, maintain and sell cars with an eye on the fact that the info will go to database.
So believe only the eyes! Otherwise you risk nothing to buy.
Well, probably the most important. How is the car? Awesome!
Full sizeLovely heart detail Scandinavian design...
Brand bottom exhaust! Exhaust and brakes. Again: (Japanese) the Swedes made a V8 that actually does not sound. HOW DO THEY DO IT?! Because this would have to violate not only the laws of physics, but all the foundations of the universe! And worst of all, there's nothing you can do about it (the guys on the XC90 with the banks from H5M, I'm sorry, but a V8 should sound wrong)
Well, the brakes are dead: not Infinite of course, but frankly weak. By the way, digging the scanner in the brain found an interesting option: you can see the temperature of each brake disc – it seems that I have never met.
Full sizethis all something to eat... Even after the Germans, even after Porsche and BMW...
Everything else on a decent level: the skin is tender, the music is playing, lights are shining, the road holds all 315 forces on the spot. This means that to drive fast she's not capable, but capable of a lot to surprise someone.
Peers confounded. 530 BMW E39 sedan (live) and G55AMG left behind. Precipitated the owner of Gelek with three Alkami was particularly pleased to witness (first two gears are the same, but then Gelek gets up, probably in the air rests).
The youth also greatly surprised. Rides old elk exactly how the new diesel Q7, at the bumper up to the limiter, but if you linger Q7, the Volvo forward leave.
In short for those who format "wolf in sheep's clothing" I'm tired, have the format of "mad moose to elephant skin" — can surprise the neighbors in the thread, even 24 hours a day, they still do not understand what it was.
But, seriously, the car is mega successful! Best my firewood for the past many years. Even a two year old Volvo in this state in the sale have not come across.
PS Sorry for the brake. A lot of things and don't have time. Publish all this to the extent possible.
S80 a completely different program the engine control. Alas, to do similar on the XC90 will not work.
I have come to like even come to appreciate ))
About the exhaust — it's a Volvo, the intelligentsia) On the tube there is a channel one pole on the S80 with the same engine and Bush exhaust sound which you can hear at the beginning of each of his videos. Mellifluous, it is recognized.
But garbage all these bases! Winter friend I sold the car. 2 years ago he was in Poland ushatal her in a ditch with two coups. Rebuilt and six months later there was an accident with a scratch on the bumper. The sale through Carpris they saw only the bumper!
Support: Pay 99 rubles and get info, which can be obtained free of charge from Autocode or traffic police.Russia
Fine yourself on the way. For its size and generation right after a surprise. And if the name to remember...
Well, about the measurement of the disc temperature could well guess ))
everything was great, until like It goes))) not to introduce people in a mess... although she weseley hard after chip, maybe you got this...) and joke about the temperature of the brakes... I fucking know how they do it)) but just for shits and giggles checked the accuracy of plus minus 15%...))
I have all the machines I autotake exactly. I would not find fault with the service — the stage of formation so it always runs with shoals. But it is better to chill and have a good resource, than to have nothing
There is no real price. Not exist in principle. Everyone asks for the car as much as the head will climb.
And the car comes alive in one year. And how much it will cost, no one knows.
Well you can just Google. Why asked interested in the real price for a car in good condition.
I will answer all at once:
Unlockable cars.ru, ask Volvo XC90, press filter by engine size (4.4), press to DISPLAY ADS. ALL! Before you all Volvos with a V8 that is on sale and their prices.
AvtoREVIZORRO
Less than you might think. Who needs it? ))
and you can PM the price tag? very interested in such a device
AvtoREVIZORRO
Less than you might think. Who needs it? ))
500k? no, of course...
and by the way on the glass. glass could easily be replaced. for example after stone. or broke (thieves in the car climbed). and that. car from in total?
well, there is something. 315 mares. he eats a lot. tax horse.
still and air pump for sure.
I have a friend who six months ago bought Opel Astra with mileage of 15 thousand km, the car was not crash one door without removal. Then he needed money and he decided to sell the car to buy something cheaper. So the car is not sold, the mileage at that time was about 25, and it was painted half of the car, painted sorci and scratches. And he ordered the report autotek, according to this report, the car was allegedly Stateline) although the machine was all in the family
Tell me how much to break on these sorts of avtotek wines? My sevice history and the actual mileage I would like to look at foreign websites that gives but asks 100 bucks
It's all good but a bitch when ndog for 315 horses comes as something painful to be😭😭😭
1) to Push across the V8 is a better idea; by the way, the former flank "homeland" aka Autoreview quite mentally "ride" on the XC90 with a V8 under the heading "Second hand", if I'm not mistaken...
2) On the "China car" I laughed heartily ))
3) Cool. Cool. Beautiful. Great when the car has to offer!
Made recently in autotake report. Showed the same as the website traffic. The car had an accident, the report and the traffic police, it is not displayed.
Possible this variantets:
1) What if Autotecha not lying.
2) the Car really broke and sold for parts.
3) Then documents with site for wines sold in another place.
4) They were attached to the stolen car.
Perhaps this technical error, but I like this car very carefully looked at the wine and around him, the date of production of plastic parts, glass and belts...
Replacement glass does not mean that it was an accident. I cracked, bought the original. Of course another year now
Many have this "moose." I'm on a course already started to grow old — looking grey and beige Volvo.
love the moose as a service man, no 2.4 diesel has capitally. . the same bottomless pit the Volvo as my Cayenne :)
I like this car)) but the belief that it is possible to find her alive each year melts...
On the other hand, described here — conflict. If the good machine will leave the hands of kallizii is better than if the bad will fall into the hands of poor service.
Simply put — better safe than sorry )))
How can they fix it? Let him write there whatever you want, truth is on our side, car is in excellent condition, sane people see it with my own eyes.
Not so long ago was selling Mazda CX-7 2.5 the parent, sold a long time, a lot of calls, a lot of questions, but it was merged after I sent them the VIN of the car. And finally, the car I want to buy at the last moment and run it through this service, and it says the mileage 280000, when the real was 110000, the car with the interior in our hands, that's how I met this "cool" service! Naturally, the car is not bought, saying, "me, too, then sell". And the car, incidentally, was in otlichnaya condition, for 7 years nothing was painted. However, the next day, other buyers took it on the fly, without checks.
A few years ago, faced with the crime:
Turned to me for advice with the question: "Why VIN he beats the Gora, and in the car is a MDPS? How to find spare parts?"
He has SH Forester 2007 (SH indeed produced from December 2007, as the "2009 model"). I ask him for the VIN to verify parts of the program. And VIN I have Forester SG model 2008 (SG produced until December 2007, as a "2008 model"). Model year is 10th digit of the VIN is possible without programs to check.
Then read from ECU VIN and see another which corresponds to Foresterу SH 2009 model, which is really characteristic!
Release year coincides — 2007, engine type match — EJ204, the colors match. But one of the 2008 model year, ie is SG and the other a 2009 model — SH. Outside it is a different machine!
Well, of course, a few punched VIN in the database, and not surprised: "stolen in Moscow"...
The car was purchased in Trade-IN at local dealer. Without problems are put on the account in traffic police. Traces of perevalki bulkhead bonnet is not visible. The VIN plate under the glass and on the counter there.
Moreover, the owner, is not much attended to this: "Well, just on the account set — will travel". He is very happy that now knows the original VIN for the selection of parts...
I really thought the double — crime))
What about the sound the machine must be quiet! The Swedes are great!
with this logic, Cadillac 56 should be worth the price of scrap))) Went to such connoisseurs in the ass))
then prodaesh bucket and have those experts atopognosia to buy a car for 65тыс rubles)))
one guy came and tried to scan a Camaro 4ген))) garbage from aleski))
well, the experts have ponabezhalo when I fire sold ))) the machine of ' 87 can't cost more than 150-200 ru))) I finally ugarnul))) although I deshego sold for 850
Scatt
To me responded: "can't be, we all clearly". Write as you said.
Their response.
Hello, Simon.
Thank you for the information provided.
AutoTech does not store data about vehicles and only request it from the project partners during the formation of the report.
Therefore, we cannot make any changes to the report. We passed your request to the project partners. The presence of collateral will be an additional check. If it is confirmed the presence of inaccuracies, they will be eliminated. Please note that verification takes some time.
We can't get the money for the purchase of the report, because the service was provided. In this case, compensation is not provided.
If the current treatment you still have questions, post them in reply to this letter.
Sincerely, support Autoteka.
I subscribe to every word. My car recognized totalnym in the amount of half a million. In broken circle, even a door. But when checking the beginning be confused about the fact that s/h has changed 4 times and the same position, until finally they came to view detali that, IN PRINCIPLE, MY CAR is not there! AutoTech CHEAT and does not want to accept the complaint. Pay attention to the tools feedback: sense 0 0 tenths of the whole.
And che, it was simply statelily and all) This car is still normal not buy, because the total in the case of severe accidents will pay a penny)
Here I read the comments, many people write that they listed an accident which was not or runs etc...It should be punished somehow, and pay the moral and financial damages they incur due to the curves of assholes.
also checked the car, called the guy, he is in disbelief that in General ochem it
Also fell under the nonsense from AutoTech. There was no crash, but the payment type was...
Look at the review I am not the first with this problem...
So I have a "conflict" with autotakas. Sell the car and potential buyer I got information from this AutoTech that I have and the door was almost changed, and the tailgate replacement. I just can't understand how this is possible if I am the only owner, the accident machne did not fall, and no such repairs were not carried out. Now here's how to sell a car — hell knows...
Good day so I bought a car the car inspected fully, the machine is all intact and even the Hyundai Solaris, I bought a report from AutoTech it was that he was hit in the face, well, as I inspected the car and was sure that the whole car then bought it, a week has renewed itself and after 5 days I got a call from the traffic police and asked to re-inspect the car . In the result, the car was taken away, a broken car, the original car was total and the owner of the car died, caught crooks with forged photocopy of your passport, now your money, and in autotake information about the total was not!
Heck check your car vin number, and the "miracle" the car is pledged on the basis of NCBI and the chamber of notaries it is not in the pledge, wrote a letter to autotake, NCBI in response-silence, how to be and what to do with this kind of "services"?
For constraint checks used AutoTech. AutoTech because Craigslist only had to poke the link, is inexpensive. In principle, for this purpose you can use. A habit I have to double check on the traffic police — similar information was given. Well, that until the technical condition is good, what is the mileage of an accident, but also trivial to verify the thickness and the eyes need to learn, even I, a girl, that's understandable.