The new Volkswagen Touareg, how much? BU why cars are not getting cheaper? Prices for the new Volkswagen.
Hi. Why did you decide to show You new cars, not Boo, as usual? All just some good, BU bought cars seem to be expensive for many. People were frozen in 2011 when the new Solaris/Rio was worth 400,000 rubles.
For ten years in Russia much has changed (except the President of course), including the machines themselves, and the prices on them. And for most people, buying a new car is a very heavy lesson, but looking at the prices of BU cars, they think that BU is too expensive. And I remember in a different debate, for how many bought them new in 2012. And it's not quite right! Yes, you need to compare the price for which you bought the car new 6 years ago, but adjusted price, you need to consider in dollars, not in rubles.
For example, consider the purchase of Solaris in 2011 over 450.000 rubles. Dollar for 27 rubles. It is 16.666 dollars. And at the current exchange rate of the dollar at 64 rubles per Dollar this — 1.066.666 rubles. It turns out the new machines do not even have risen, the ruble just fell. So why now, for Solaris 2011 people need to ask for 200,000 rubles? Just because he had bought new for 450,000 rubles?
So let's look at the price of a new car, and why a used car is constantly becoming more expensive? we will start with the new Volkswagen Touareg. I remember I posted Volkswagen Touareg in the last "booth", it was perfect and worth 1.830.000 rubles, and many thought — it's expensive!
Meet the new Volkswagen Touareg — RLine.
While we are all not used to it, it looks interesting. But most importantly — the salon. His torpedo he's like the new generation of Mercedes. Although nowadays almost all modern manufacturers go to huge screens in the salons of their cars.
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Tastes differ, but to me this Volkswagen Touareg like! And just, you always want something new! And this car is very interesting. Pass it a test drive soon. It's really this leap forward after the previous generation Volkswagen Touareg.
But the price! Here, that people look at. The beginning price as the tablet says before auto — 3.399.000 rubles, which is quite expensive. A specific vehicle is worth and do 5.152.000 rubles. And that's without the hull insurance, without armor and alarms without labels means against stealing without a second set of wheels.
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And in the video below, BU Volkswagen Touareg R Line. Now the price of BU Volkswagen Touareg doesn't seem as big as the new 3 times more expensive, right? And about four different Volkswagen Touareg can be found here, there is one ideal state.
Now let's see the new VW Tiguan.
Yes — it is a new body/interior/exterior and so on. But nothing super new/innovative there, and the box is now not Aisin, and DSG. While choosing a car, do not want to buy a robot. And prices for this car start from 1.399.000 rubles, but only in theory. In fact, You are such a machine is unlikely, where you will find.
View photos Tiguan. Yes, everything is new pleases the eye, but if you buy a new Tiguan last generation, no "WOW DAMN THAT was close" You will not. Just another machine, but not head and shoulders above its predecessor.
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But the price is quite different! The price of a particular VW Tiguan 2.120.700 rubles. And again it without KASKO/OSAGO/rubber/signaling and other things. This car not everyone can afford, and prices for b/a two times lower — a post about the different VW Tiguan.
The VW Polo.
These cars sold a huge amount, and surely people still remember the prices when they cost relatively inexpensive, and such a machine even new, many people could afford. But time inexorably goes on, and that's what the prices are now. But first, let's look at equipment. Plastic steering wheel, no factory radio. Only automatic, air condition, 4 power window. (soran for the photo quality).
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You are in my head already introduced the price at which willing to buy it? Minimum salary from 599.900 rubles, and this car is 770.980 rubles. And for the money, not even alloy wheels on the car.
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Many are not willing to pay for b/y VW Passat about 1,000,000 rubles. And I think that these cars should cost even less! "After all, there is the DSG, and fixing it is expensive"
The new VW Passat also changed! It became a little more powerful. Again, no wow when buying a new Passat, you will not experience if driving a B7 Passat or Passat CC.
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Starting prices on these cars from 1.499.000 rubles. And the price of a particular auto — 1.956.300 rubles. Almost 2 million and that's without the hull insurance, rubber and other things. And the warranty on the DSG7 is not 5 years as previously! But only two years.
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Entered the market and the new Volkswagen — Volkswagen Teramont.
I personally do not like it, because of the great similarity of the headlights and the "muzzle" with the Renault Duster! Compare for yourself. No, I'm not saying the car is bad. Just because of the similarity of the forms, I was not impressed.
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The salon is no frills and it is similar to the other VW, and it is clear. Now almost in the entire range of cars of the same brand, same seat/handlebars/pedals/torpedoes. But if it a torpedo was in the Touareg, this car would have blown up the market!
Price VW Teramont, starts from 2.799.000 rubles, and the specific vehicle is 3.325.485 rubles.
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We're in the salon, came for the VW Jetta! In picking Life. And the thing is that I had to find a fat VW Jetta on stock motor and conventional hydro machine. But scrolling through all ads up to 800,000 rubles I have not found a suitable option, and the customer decided to buy a new loan. And in the naked automatic Jetta. For those who want meatier, took the turbo mainly, but not finished options the simplest variation of the engine/transmission. And if someone did, today it did not sell.
And most importantly, many people think that their 800,000 rubles, which they have long earned a lot of money. In fact, it is not so. And I who think so, go to the dealership, go and ask the price of a new car. But what are the prices for the new VW Jetta.
Manual transmission, atmo motor 110 HP, without molding, with simple radio — 1.105.200 rubles! And that's without the hull insurance/rubber/signaling. That is, the normal C class is more than 1.100.000 rubles today. Ordinary, not ZHYR!
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And bought in the end:
VW Jetta. Equipment Life + radio + casting, the same 110 forces + the machine.
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In the cabin everything is quite simple and usual. But with normal radio, but without navigation — RCD330. And these machines have long been made, therefore a little boring to me.
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On casting, with alarm and some extras. Of course with not riding motor. The price of this car 1.230.000 rubles
Expensive for a regular Jetta? Imagine this price even with the discount trade-in discount for the loan and the fact that the car from the showroom, it also knocked the proposal. Plus gave mats, alarm system, protecting the engine. That is the Jetta, bought and cheap. And the price 1.230.000 rubles is cheap!
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I was also invited to test it before buying. It is no secret that some new cars fell from the trucks, or scratched and painted again. This car intact.
Now an interesting fact.
On nearly every VAG group car, adjust the clearance of the hinged body iron. I wrote about it many times. And if you see that one/two bolts were shot, this does not mean that the body element is not in the original paint. The owners of these cars will understand, and others you remember. Even on a new car, often some of the bolts were spinning. And it's not necessarily only the doors or only the wings. Anything could be subject to adjustment.
On a specific car was regulated both front wings. The two bolts of the four was shot. See photos it is well visible! Stripped the paint on the bolts, and they are not like the factory seat.
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But the other two bolt those wings weren't removed, and you can see it!
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How to distinguish regulation from varied item?
When adjusting the body element is not completely removed. That is, not all bolts of one element was removed. Although that's not always the case. Is completely removed the door, but it in the factory color (seen this more than once)! And the wings are usually removed not completely but only the place where the adjustment is made. This car is the two bolts closest to the headlight and two rear had not been touched.
And even on the new machine, you can find a lot jambs assemblies. Before gaps I'm not even to the bottom, almost all cars are now collecting "feet". The Assembly of this Jetta in Nizhny Novgorod. And You thought it's a German car?
Why is the price on BU car is also constantly rising?
Have you seen the price of new cars? They just space, and more than once more expensive. Following them will rise and BU cars. Usually it happens, people looking at ads and think to sell their car. Sees high prices, in his opinion, and thinks I bought it new a little cheaper, they're all crazy, or what? Puts cheaper and the buyer finds per hour. And then going to the salon, see how much a new car. And then epigeum! The prices of new cars is not like it was 5 years ago. And his BU car, or not sell at all, and goes on. Or raises her price, otherwise, just makes no sense to sell it.
So if you saw a good BU the car, despite the slightly inflated price tag, better buy it. Because it is not always possible to find better and especially cheaper. And for excellent condition and low mileage even overpay is not shameful. But to solve certainly to You.
So don't think that the price on BU car high. They are low in comparison with a new car! What was the new body does not mean that the old will become cheaper, quite the contrary! Price on BU car will increase. And not even once. But to understand this, look at the price of a new car, and ask yourself, how much would You be willing to sell your maloprimetny/perfect/whole/serviced the car?
Compare the price of a new body and the old, is it possible?
Why not? That's not to sell more new Kia Rio in the past the body. Not they all! There is only in a new body, and they have no armrest there are more than 900,000 rubles. So we bought a BU Kia Rio for 700,000 rubles with mileage of 7.500 km + rubber + alarm + insulation + only after THAT, and so on — the description of the link. Machine as new, but it is used. And the client thought that 700,000 rubles for the previous Kia Rio is expensive. We went to the salon, to see the price of a new Kia Rio. Completely new similar — 920.000 rubles. Rio in the past so the body does not become cheaper with the release of new "boxes", but on the contrary has risen because there is no alternative! New or very expensive, or BU for a cheaper price tag. With all the extras and stuff. And 920.000 rubles overpayment on the loan + winter tires + hull + carpets + signalling is almost 1.000.000 rubles in total. It turns out that even 700,000 rubles for the purchase of Kia Rio is even cheap. You can safely sell that ideal, with all the extras for 750.000 roubles.
Or remember my ancient post — Dispel the myths about which he wrote. Sable. Sandero. Solaris. Then a new in fact Solaris gave 660.000 rubles, and also all the shouting — it's expensive. A year has passed, and you go try to find her infant on the machine with a mileage of 8.400 miles buy for 660.000 rubles buzzer and rubber. Hell find.
I what is it? Our life is changing rapidly, and many of You simply do not have time for her. Don't know prices, market BU car and other things. And understand, it is not necessary to compare the current time and that was 5 years ago. And with the release of new cars in our time, past body nifiga not cheaper. And still are in great demand, because prices on new cars for many simply unaffordable.
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PS: Everything written is my personal, subjective opinion. No more. Post that BU car, will not get cheaper. Rather than compare the new body from the past.
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I am talking about. Growth according to statistics, 50 % and actually more than 100 % because the dollar in 2 times is more expensive.
Yes, but the increase s/n.
For example getting 30000 RUB. in 2013. It was 1000$
Now the half hour was 60000 RUB. it's not even 1000$
I.e. even if s/n is raised two times or let's say profits from business, respectively, for all this time prices have soared by 2 times.
For Sarasate. 2013 z.p. I have doubled. But if translated into dollars, it turns out she left$ 1,000 in value. And correspondingly, everything around rose...
And it turns out that s.p. I grew up only on paper.
that's when the salaries will be indexed, might not we assume that not expensive. this summer saw the opening for the place where you worked 10 years ago, the salary is the same, nor in a thousand is not raised, and C-class cars increased from 500-600 to 1100-1500. so what would a three-volume arguments do not lead, and cars under 10 years are expensive
Completely disagree with you about the new Taiapa, he fucking looks become completely different inside, in the top configuration of the bomb at all, in the past the body of the Tiguan at all in my opinion was dumb car, the outside what's inside, even never looked in his direction. I think he has changed from the past body is not less than the Touareg.
Avtopoisk74
Finally can easily. Old Tiguan R-Line it for the money (two years ago), and the new money that is specified in the post. And get that new no pleasure does not deliver, and will cost more.
Let me rephrase that. Octavia A5 RS new Octavia 1.8, 1.4 and even now so worth it. What's more interesting? If you do not take the body, the rest is not very different from the Vaga, what is fundamentally new will be there? Rocket into space? Occasinally camera? Other navigation? What? The car is the same, just in a different shell but with a loaded price tag.
A New Passat. The other motor? Yes. Another salon? Nah, he is almost the same.
What would agree that the Touareg breakthrough. The rest of the car remained the same, but in different price tag. However, and Rio/Solaris is similar. This is my personal opinion, not impose it.
To understand what I mean, just look at the last Touareg and in the new. And then similarly, do Tihuana. And of course, where something has changed, and where it remained the same.
Again. My personal, subjective opinion. No more.
So the Touareg and the price moved into the space of the last body! He stands now as the new X5,the GLE,😂Q7 Tiguan was 2 times more expensive, it rose only in line with prices for new cars.
Avtopoisk74
I understand what you're talking about, do not post about it.
Hands and priests is one thing, but look at Mercedes, they've seen the difference between old boxes from new. Look at Volvo, I think will understand where the new, where the old only through the cabin. BMW is always the same for 100 years. And the VW Touareg made the rules, and the rest have not changed much.
🤦 ♂ This is a BMW the same? G05 new X5 is built at all on another platform, if you compare it with the bodywork F15. BMW 5 models G30 and F10 obsalyutno different cars...
Yes, jet was looking 5или6 years ago from 599 for 640 wanted to take but did not) now here is 1 more 🍋
Shomalolpro
You are certainly right about paralelli with the dollar)
But what about average wage growth?) since 2011, CP has increased by 10-15% kind of a machine in the price gained 35-50%
What do you say, Elon musk drabowski?))
Something I did not notice the growth of wages, which in 2008 received 20 thousand, in 2019 we get 20 thousand
Shomalolpro
You are certainly right about paralelli with the dollar)
But what about average wage growth?) since 2011, CP has increased by 10-15% kind of a machine in the price gained 35-50%
What do you say, Elon musk drabowski?))
And who should care?
Manufacturer and sell your car?
As far as I understand, when wages and the cost of manufacturing a car there. Who is paid more, someone less but the cost of production is not reduced or not increased.
You are certainly right about paralelli with the dollar)
But what about average wage growth?) since 2011, CP has increased by 10-15% kind of a machine in the price gained 35-50%
What do you say, Elon musk drabowski?))
Deemon96
Because the Touareg is better. With a complete set of 5.5 million it is stuffed with Goodies like a goose with apples. Two heads are better the same ку7 have a BMW against the Tuareg in response to no-trump. The Touareg is more practical, sit in the cabin — he stupidly modern, with timespolice to argue, little loses value, reliable transmission and engines.
VW generally, in this respect oborzel. Better ку7 Touareg, Tiguan is better than ku3, Golf and Passat are better than A3 and A4. It is considered that the Audi head and shoulders above Foltz in the hierarchy Vaga, but in fact it is not so now.
"Touareg" better than Q7?
Was the test drive?
One wheel from the Polo a lot.
And for 5 200 000 Q7 will be the only knight without Videnov and other tinsel.
Russian-red
half-yearly income on a car?! Oh Fig. Me a Mercedes cost a little more than 2 months of work, and I think that came out a little expensive, but the mats and a second set of tires I was given. but again, oil change, fuel costs, the sink, the same for the year you know accumulates. and income, no car insurance policy now only repairs the insurance also only repair, but with the Cayenne came out well, it 3.5 times over the 2 years I strayed
A con artist galleries? He strayed from her. Since when was not improper to admit in public?
Damn, and I was hoping that the prices fall here Soul a bit in connection with the forthcoming release of a new body...
Speaking of birds, m.auto.ru/cars/used/sale/.../touareg/1082928098-63ab/
the car of my boss and everything that is written is true.
But those days will remember with the warmth of the era of muscle cars. Saying: "Wow, cheto expensive. Yes, I'm in twelfth snatched eshku sport package for 1.8"...
On 3 January, the ruble against the dollar was 71.45))) though not for Long. But it was.
karbidtt
No matter how good a new car, buying it is not economically profitable. With the exception of commercial vehicles. She needs to earn and not to stand on the repair. But special touches of our fellow citizens are buying a new car for 5-6 mil a loan. And the majority on the roads.
And with the ruble is not so simple. Roughly speaking, when $ was 30 rubles, I earn 3K$ per month — 90k rubles. Then the ruble dropped 2 times. My earnings in about a month was 1.5 K$. But all the same 90k rubles. And not 180K.
The trouble is that all commodities are priced in dollars (auto in particular), but wages have remain in rubles. Therefore, buy can I in 2 times less. If the government has increased salaries after each drop of the ruble, it's still all right. But this is not happening, and only increase the levies. The standard of living of the people falls. Why people don't want to buy a new car, and b/y evaluated at the old prices.
P. S. according to forecasts of $ to the end of the year will be 70-80 rubles.
Well, the forecast almost came true. $ crept close to 70 before N.G. But then fell back a bit
I worked in the defense industry for 5 years.
In 2014, the normal salary of everyone in the enterprise.
Then it remains the same in rubles, but in dollars fell 2 times — that is, purchasing power declined sharply after the ruble depreciated.
Then the guide offered to all scheme "50/50" when the old salary in rubles, half called a salary and the other half to the prize (and not always paid part of the employees) — that is in fact over 5 years real income has fallen 4 times. And the prices, as already noted, increased by all significantly.
And I would looked at it through the fingers and would be considered more or less normal, if not a rich country we would have. After all, it's only an unfair distribution of income from exploitation of mineral resources (not even taking labor into account), which in fact contradicts the Constitution. And so we went to Nove and could push forward global auto industry, instead of digging in landfills and used, as well as separate retrofits in the style of "crazy hands"...
Kadyrova is as much his came in and bought it. A simple example is my Pajero 14. With verifiable mileage and history. If the price is the same, not even different car in the cabin for 2.8 nobody was interested in neither 1.4 nor 1.3 . For 4 years palenie more than two . And it is the truths of life.
Just who wanted to buy and could have bought. And those rare calls that were from rogue, whom to talk and dream, that is, from the theory of Masturbation — how many eats, good machine, that is, never from a buyer willing to come and take
AlexZemlehanov
And here I do not understand. Car needs to sell for the price competitive and appropriate at the moment. The price at the time of purchase not meet any difference.
And to sell and sell are two different things, even between strangers. I've sold and left, just realizing what to sell. But the laws of the market are — the compulsion was to throw until x, when not come and pick up.
And everything else is just veineuse dreams — new costs 1.000, so your 4 year old will throw for 900. Yes the consumer wants a new car, and neither saves you a hundred thousand to buy along with the machine the murky history of the beer style of riding
DrOn55
I had It up To (Grant) what is the mass of the components?
This 9-ka with airbags and air conditioning.
I also see this relationship of prices and exchange rate, but I don't think this is correct.
Removing all the competitors they have resolved the issue with ...price. As much as they want and put.
brickk
annual like it was. semi-annual RFP and the machine it is necessary to be either an oligarch or ride the subway. because even Kalina is 500. ie at the SN 100 to ride properly on it? the truth is somewhere around the annual salary.
I ride on the main car... for a monthly RFP. What? The spouse is more expensive ... it's the stereotypes and our attraction to bluff
BritishScientist
I say no more) For many car for 2 month s\n is quite a normal option, even if it is 2109. But not shaking at night — maybe someone will hit it and leave, suddenly someone on the road to ass be the box will be covered. And if God forbid, roll over in a ditch — it's all life the tragedy, because a car still pay for several years, but the machines are already there.
But it's about the fact that people are working for several years on the car, even get into debt and get not even the BMW X6, but only Solaris or Kia Rio.
Great when the S63 is coming out in two month s\n. But when it comes to the sale of my grandmother's apartment plus the credit is not great.
This while our thirst for luxury...kitchen, fucking in the loan. So a neighbor came to visit and bitch envy gasped.
AutoStudio-G214
$ despite the fact that the owners of AVTOVAZ in them receive a salary. They can not less than $ to start to. Had to pull up the prices on cars so that everyone had the same amount of $ as before.
And you think global competition removed from the market, so too are the prices to keep the bottom?))
Himself tradinig in Ukraine. Is the concept still margin on the new machine, which is now of the order of 2-5% if we are talking about Volkswagen. And especially to block her redemption machine comes out. This trade-in usually is a tool to sell a new car, which most cheap redeem a customer's car as quickly as possible to sell and return the money in circulation. It is more a service to accelerate the sale. Want to get more money, sell yourself a month or two.
For fun, I thought to give up my car in treydin the same, but entirely new, while doing THAT I mumbled sitting with traderscom. So they are cut off from life.
My mileage now 39тыс, the machine is barely three-year period crossed (a is operated less than 3 years).
How much is it to get 1:1 the same car in the same configuration, but 3 years younger (or even two, because there are machines from PTS!) and on 39 thousand less mileage? 500 thousand Russian rubles it costs. And this is WITH ALL DISCOUNTS and no carpets and alarms (and I have premium carpets, signaling security)! I tried some voice of reason in tradeindia, which makes sense to me to throw away 500 thousand for the same thing? Well there is a new customer whim-well, logic must be enabled and the new sell (at least some approx to) and the old (and there pugnaverit), so still a loyal customer, and so that all miletinae oil change/brake pad/tormozuhi makes you do the same at the dealership (third gain).
No, let's 500k (almost half of the car) and it will be the same but a bit newer. It's not merc, not Audi, it's a Kia.
Is no logic at all. Poke the author in stores twisted, perhaps broken, with unknown equipment (without summer tires with bald winter tires) car that has no history of indentured servants and the service book and govorit -Yes, that's mximum how much your tub will sell (yeah, licked at them with complete kit and new no different well, actually anything except the numbers on the tidy). But treydin unwavering.
In the end, went to his go, what is the point to change?
Ps the firewood disappeared from sale and now the price, with a lot of miles, a year older and unknown equipment, history and accidents (not punched avbot, and author of crap) is already 150K more :)
Petro-cars
Good article and comparison.
And when Jetta was C (C)class?
And what class should it be?
ESV2012
Now it was a shame. Sam you n@DAB*L. I bought the Optima for 495 at the OD in 12году.
For some 495 thousand of you bought a car in 2012? If it is from 900 just begun?
Now it was a shame. Sam you n@DAB*L. I bought the Optima for 495 at the OD in 12году.
ESV2012
In the 12th the Optima for 495 bought, with the extra 50 and waiting 3months. Naked then cost 445, only was not available and pre-order 8месяцев.
Shouldn't a 12 year Optima so much.
I'm 12 year, I bought a Sid in premaximal 660. The price was on the website.
Maximum speed Sid was 720т.
And the Optima is even more expensive.
Very cool written
Yes, now as before will not
It was a Golden time, but the ambition of geopolitics and so require gerv, but people apparently don't complain
Author — well done, all well painted, kudos! Subscribe on YouTube channel :)
I have a similar thought has been on price changes in future years. Used as a measure of the same dollar, not the ruble or the hryvnia (for Ukrainian market). However calculated this to dispel the myth of the "benefit" of buying a new car on credit.
If the author won't mind — I'll link to my video: 
why do Raschke thought the price in rubles? Or a moment the people thought that he is great and the currency of his country's all international)))) Ukre always and apartments and cars in bucks considered. Yes, and everything else. Clothes and so on. Baksova in the colonies as it should be.
Whether it was not profitable to buy the Octavia?
Essentially the same avtomobil as the Jetta, only the body lift back, which is very convenient and is cheaper.
Of course, the new platform is perfect.
Plus cars with mileage already traveled, the suspension was podralas.
The main question is, is it worth the money that asking for Nove? :))
Watermann
Platform is different, Yes. But a normal user will notice it? Unlikely. The average car owner to a side on which platform his cars, what blocks are, how protocols communicate and so on, he do not want to know. It is important that the car was driving fine, not rattled and was worth the sanity. In the regions for the price of a bare Tiguan to buy 1ку in the suburbs for example and to me it's crazy.
The new generation goes much better than the old. We have many years in the organization of the Scouts. And all converge in a single opinion that the new Vaga better at taxiing.
Pirotexnic1978
Be sure that. Scout in box A5, but certainly not A7
A5 on the road — like shit in the hole. The A7 is much more stable.
Slavomir
Yes, that's right. I'm one of those who are stuck in those years when the dollar was worth 30 rubles. And I realize that, but I can't go. Maybe because the salary in 2 times have not increased?
Sorry, most grown