FAQ on removal of logs on VAG VAS\и0027ах
I am often asked to help in analyzing the logs, what is wrong with the machine, to help figure out what the problem is. For such requests, I almost always respond positively and are willing to share their humble knowledge and experience, in order to help solve the problem of a stranger or customer. But as soon as I see that I sent, I almost immediately understand that do not understand)) In principle, for the analysis of certain nodes requires the entry of different Logs, but there are Usrednenie logs on which you can evaluate the quality of the machine settings for example, or just to find out what is faulty and what should be paid attention to.
And so, how correctly to write down, and what are the correct logs should be written.
Let's start with HOW to write them:
Open the Bob and go to the desired unit where you want to extract any data. Example 01 engine electronics
The choice of blocks
Select the desired block
There is already two version of events, you can record a narrower range of logs but with higher quality (longer recording) MEASURED GROUP, and you can record a wider range of indicators, but less quality (shorter record) CUSTOM GROUPS.
What is the main difference. When BOB records with 3 groups (the measured group), he can pull them much faster and the communication speed is higher if BOB records with 12 groups (custom groups) that the polling rate of the sensors is significantly reduced. Also, there is a caveat. There is a program like the Diesel Power Log Viewer, it helps to watch the log as ready-made tables, and in the form of quickly-built graphics, but there is one but she is able to see only the logs of the MEASURED GROUPS.
Personally, I take 3 main log to check the operation of the motor as a whole. Two log in the MEASURED GROUPS and one log in CUSTOM GROUPS.
the measured group
03 20 31 — to analyze the ignition
20 31 118 — for the analysis of ignition and boost
a custom group is much more than
003-1 RPM
003-2 Mass air
003-3 Throttle
003-4 Ignition
031-1 Lambda SPC
031-2 Lambda ACT
106-1 fuel pressure act
Eng 114-1 load spc
Eng 114-3 load act
boost or 114 and 115 group
114-4 n75
115-3 boost scp
115-4 boost act
or on some machines 117 and 118
117-4 boost spc
118-3 n75
118-4 boost act
And so continue, how to write log in the measured groups
Select the measured group
Be sure to press turbo to speed up data exchange and enter the needed group in the Windows with numbers, after a poke to read
Push the log to log
By clicking Browse you assign a file name and folder where to save
After selecting where to save, find a straight stretch of road preferably at least 800метров and 4th or 3rd gear in manual mode (if automat) begin acceleration from 1500ob before clipping mode (gas to the floor! but no KICK DOWN!), of course after pressing "EXECUTE". Once dokrutili to the cutoff of the discharged gas and push the BREAK.
After recording, press to interrupt and ready to close
CUSTOM GROUPS are all very similar.
Select a custom group
I press turbo and start to put ticks on the right sensors I mentioned above.
At the end of the stamp see this picture
Just as before, select the save location and file name. On the 4th or 3rd gear with 1500ob click run, and hit the gas to the floor (before the kick down, if automatic)
Well, as dokrutili before clipping, press to interrupt and ready to close
Here are the logs in principle I need for analysis. If you have any questions or comments on the post, let me know and I will correct.
useful information . and there is no case of the same painted process with VAS PC? thank you
dimasya23
Thanks for the detailed instructions!
Maybe next post I'll write on what numbers to pay attention to? For example, the retard should be no more than, and so on. Ie the normal value for each indicator to the kettle looked up and realized that everything is fine or there are deviations. I think many would be grateful, and I among the first. ))
+1 would be useful to know
Tomorrow I will add, there was no time, if the measured force to remove you, the program pointed out, if the custom, the Excel to watch.
DotG
I will add tomorrow)
I will add? ;)
I want the logs to be removed, then what to do with them I do not know )) They kind and what they can see? Only the program that you've indicated or Vasya Diagnost them too open maybe?
Thanks for the detailed instructions!
Maybe next post I'll write on what numbers to pay attention to? For example, the retard should be no more than, and so on. Ie the normal value for each indicator to the kettle looked up and realized that everything is fine or there are deviations. I think many would be grateful, and I among the first. ))
Mego FACTOR! www.drive2.ru/l/6390466/ view my logs on freedom. thank you in advance)
Andrei whiz kid, too, once thought that you need to make a FAQ;)
Respect and +100500 to your karma:DDD
looking forward to the sequel! thank you, someone began at least as it razzhovyvat us)
So still have long chewed Misha Look-lock in the group:
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Hi, your motor is different the lambda a little bit and it shows a few other values you need to look Lambda Control — Bank 1 (specefied) and (actual)
Welcome! Have a 2008 Passat B6 1.8 TSI BZB. As I understand it to gr 31 should be the readings on the lambda, the lambda query and lambda fact(Well, or something like that), I have the same 31 GRS the voltage on LZ. What the case may be, or is this normal?
If you have time, please look at the logs. Referring now www.drive2.ru/l/6046318/
Thank you.
Please probably)))
in the beginning of the post when listing sensors to do the translation)))
for dummies like me(well, supposedly I taught French and anglitski not spreay)))))
Hi! I somehow log writes, but not reads (((
Not open diesel power, and in Excel all in one line
Please tell me how to accelerate to the right removing the logs?
I gradually old in manual mode(automatic) and after 1500 rpm all three (or four )of transmission of twist to the cutoff, or only the third (or fourth )you need to twist before clipping?
It is clear that nothing is clear, I got my BOB, lying at the post office, it is difficult to delve into such a text when he VAS not opened even once, if you do not mind added to podpolschiki, then motsk to carry on working with BOB =)))
And can you tell me where to take the ratio of numbers of groups on a regular block and on the block like me? Now riding N75 timing is not found at all.
DotG
Does
And I have the air flow of Mariet through the "custom group", a group of 208, but I have the group numbers are quite different, no like at all for some reason.
This is a 1.4 with nulevik in the state? If so, so not bad
I understood you, once again thank you)
Hammer ) I pozovchera on the stand was measuring the client machine with the drain filtrom and no difference on the top 8-10 PM
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Tell me how the efficiency of nulevik to evaluate? At the set time to watch? Or score)))))
Andrei, how our motor air flow to remove, and it is some crap in the 3rd group in bars writes is similar to the supercharging. I want maximum flow to be measured with the standard filter and nulevik in the state.
DotG
120-130 is the norm I see no deviations. about the humps can not say, you need to at least look at it. So it is difficult to draw conclusions
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In numbers, it looks like failure in the readings the MAF at higher rpm. and 100% throttle.
120-130 is the norm I see no deviations. about the humps can not say, you need to at least look at it. So it is difficult to draw conclusions
Andrew, Hello, noticed that the 1.8 cab, the testimony of the LFA does not rise above 120(most odnoklassikov 130). If the evidence to build the schedule — have 1 or sometimes 2 backs with shelf for about. after 3500. Sin on the MAF? Not seen this? If you have a leak before the turbo, although there is nowhere particularly, why a hump and not evenly.
Here's what I have:
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Question!
Kaki settings I choose for the lifting of logs of the turbine.
Well, kickbacks.
In the comments and have not found answers.
DotG
You have a uds bloc so only custom. The chain is impossible, and the rest can be
Andrew, how to see setbacks if the measured no access?
clear .
And do not tell, wanted to see the fuel pump pressure, oil pressure, well, in General the main parameters that at idle you can look (nout from 220 — tied the wire to the garage)
DotG
You have a uds bloc so only custom. The chain is impossible, and the rest can be
and the number of groups in a customizable and measured the same? (the line number and the monitored parameters)
I understand he was not lazel (only wanted) but in 93 the group the people of what the numbers see, I don't know what... but maybe typing statistics about what were the values before replacement on the run, and after it is possible to diagnose when it is necessary to think about replacement.
On the 1.4 it's impossible to see the chain through the VA. Though old, though a new unit
ooh cry... well the chain and before all 1.4 looked and strange figures seen... just wanted to see ...
understand, go look in the custom...unfortunately tied to 220 V smotreti it will only idle — that it is possible to look and estimate the parameters of the engine on the XX?
I have a "Bob" Gad generally comes in measured scoundrel... only the chain wanted to see, but the pressure of gas... Yes, kickbacks. and he... eeeh. and in Custom — it's all you can see?
Hi, tell please, what program and where to buy for diagnosis and removal of logs?
Belarus, China? If possible with link))
Good afternoon. You can tell whether the VAS graph of measured groups to build?
Car jerks when driving at low speed in the cold. Stops when the oil temperature reaches 70 degrees. Do not tell what values should be salaryrate? All the same, or even maybe something? When recording picatta vosproizvesti jerking or still before the cutoff? (in this mode will not be twitching) Thank you.
Tell me a column with the right in custom groups, found I understood the language, how can I fix it( the language is similar to the set of different letters), he's not even English.
Good afternoon.Why not have a TURBO button?Am I flawed Basil bought?The logs to remove as I understand will not work?Thank you
Good a lot of them, all in a row makes no sense to write, you need to watch what you need and what ails
Good day, please tell me where to get which groups that mean and what metrics should be the norm? Thanks in advance.
Good evening. Please tell me what items to choose to test therefore the car was "dumb". The father of adr 1.8 with manual transmission, can't understand where's your sense of who keeps the car in the ass. Would like to zapisati logs, tell me what to choose. Thank you
Hi) Tell me please, and you can clear the logs is not in motion. I need for example, to see the correction on the injectors.
Good evening! In the cabin today but were unable to do the activation of the buns, I say changed, in General roads lead to You.
Very useful Your work. More such specialists as You. Hats off to you. And of course bookmarks. The logs will be removed according to your recipe and try to understand my problem. Thank You.
But I have a fuel pump pressure as necessary. However, I was told to check tnnd. If tnnd sags, the moments or always pressure below 4?
If tnnd sags, then the injection pump will sink. Crush must not be less than 4 bar minimum.
DotG
And TND its not. The pressure gauge need to be connected.
Can I ask another question. If suddenly losing the pressure in the submersible, fuel pump will work fine? And if to measure a pressure gauge, what pressure should be and what is critical?
Good afternoon. Please tell me group submersible pump CDAB engine. Group 103 to the drive in and it does nothing.
Hi. Have a question maybe faced with t5 facelift 7dsg starts and stops immediately no error before this was the loss of power also no error;(( what to do where to look?
Hi. Please tell me. The engine AKL/AEH. Brain Simos. Cord Chinese 340 chip. If I remove the logs ?
Welcome. Che seemed to me that the car repair bad trip was-removed the logs, looked through the Online viewing of logs, well and in General any conclusions did not, can you help?
Something I completely lost in this hand. I have version 18.2 there are a few different tables and there is no button to execute. Tried to remove the log, but it is still not preserved. Custom groups I and did not find it. What was recorded — that data on idle — lambda 1.8 — not a lot? Boost specials. — 350 measured 1000Mb, Rev 760. Engine 1.8 CDAA As normal data? Thanks in advance.
Hello. Thank you for your clear clarification on the removal of logs. Not everyone is going to tell us all what is sought for years...Tell me please, atmo Skoda Fabia 1.2 bme do I need to remove the logs from group "20 118 31 — to analyze the ignition and the boost of" I can't find what it is necessary to select groups without turbinate.(if you can have the group select).And then with the lambda universal base somehow became not so good, and the map sensor changed to Chinese, I would like to know what does not work.Thank you.