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Single Turbo vs. Twin turbo - Toyota Aristo, 3.0 liter, 1994

I am often asked if I am satisfied with the transition from two turbines to one big one? And how does the single feel? Well, I described the main technical advantages and disadvantages of one turbine in the third part of my story, so we will not dwell on them, but let's talk about sensations ...
Imagine that you are sitting on a sled, on top of a gentle hill, pushing with your feet and starting to slowly accelerate ... Almost immediately a man runs up to you from behind and starts pushing you in the back, and after a certain period of time a second one, a little stronger than the first, joins him and together they push you to the bottom of the hill with good acceleration. This is how the standard twin-turbo system on the Aristo feels.
Now imagine that you are again standing at the top of the same hill, sitting on the same sled) Push off and start to move down ... Eat. Eat. Eat. Damn, where is the person who should push you? You start to get bored on the sled slowly rolling through the snow ... and here HRENAX! A Kamaz crashes into you from behind at full speed, your brain falls into your stomach, and the hill disappears in puffs of snow from behind)) This is how a single feels like, that is, one turbine))) In the city up to 3000 rpm, this is a manual and very docile animal, and after 4000 thousand he gives you such a pendal that a person who is not mentally ready for this can fly in the desired direction, but with his ass forward))
Below I bring to your attention a video of the single on my car)) Smooth acceleration to 3000, well, then see for yourself) )

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somebody 20.01.22

impressive :)

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BaHek550 20.01.22

Acies

Ummm… Actually, according to your descriptions, I was expecting to see how RIDES, but she just rides something.

How much pressure? Boost worth it?

Here is the stock
and here is the stock

she drives well

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Acies 20.01.22

ChameleonD

The goal was not to show the dynamics of 0-100, the goal was to show the kick of the single, so no starts from 2 pedals, but just a smooth acceleration to 4 thousand, and the speedometer is lying down) It's funny, but on your video the stock rides much more fun than the stock ) Daka I have 0.9 — 1.1 by 3 it beats in the cut-off for boost if it's cool outside)

ZY I will make another video of a combat start from 2 pedals and up to 180)

Z.Z.Y. By the way, it's strange ... In your video, the 1st speed ends at 80, and my 1st speed ends at 60, is my speed really driving like that? ((((Or something is not clean with the first arista on the video))

"It's funny, but in your video the stock rides much more fun than the near stock)"

I don’t know those cars, I just wrote what I understood from the comments.

We are waiting for combat overclocking.

Did you measure at 402? This would be a more understandable indicator.

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JDM156 20.01.22

he probably has a longer gp

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ChameleonD 20.01.22

The goal was not to show the dynamics of 0-100, the goal was to show the kick of the single, so no starts from 2 pedals, but just a smooth acceleration to 4 thousand, and the speedometer is lying down) It's funny, but on your video the stock rides much more fun than the stock ) Daka I have 0.9 — 1.1 by 3 it beats in the cut-off for boost if it's cool outside)

ZY I will make another video of a combat start from 2 pedals and up to 180)

Z.Z.Y. By the way, it's strange ... In your video, the 1st speed ends at 80, and my 1st speed ends at 60, is my speed really driving like that? ((((Or something is not clean with the first arista on the video))

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Acies 20.01.22

Ummm… Actually, according to your descriptions, I was expecting to see how RIDES, but she just rides something.

How much pressure? Boost worth it?

Here is the stock
and here is the stock

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Zhanas 20.01.22

Yes, a kick is visible on the video))) I would like to ride ...))

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somebody 20.01.22

Nice kick in the ass :)

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Golovnin 20.01.22

Damn it - for some reason the video doesn’t show for me, well, it’s interesting to the point of horror.
I honestly read your story in fragments

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ChameleonD 20.01.22

Well, it all depends on how to push the minimum city of 12 liters, track 9, but it’s hard to drive like that ... The maximum City is 35 - 40 liters, the track is about 18 - 20, this is if the slippers are constantly on the floor, during normal driving I get 14 - 18 city, 11 — 15 route)) Something like that))

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Golovnin 20.01.22

And what consumption is obtained on a turbo ariste?
city/highway/mixed?

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ChameleonD 20.01.22

Do not forget that gasoline is exclusively 98th)) Horses need to be fed, do not believe those who say that he has a lot of horses and at the same time low consumption)

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Golovnin 20.01.22

I'm silent, I'm just silent,
I'm definitely not ready for such a car, at least

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Golovnin 20.01.22

I had a chance to ride on the same ariste of 93 onwards, or rather, on the occasion, my uncle bought it, kept it for about 2 years, then sold it as unnecessary, and so, but it was all killed except for the internal combustion engine, after the "nine" ride it was with a simple 2jz turned out to be an airplane, turning on asphalt with probuks is easy, well, very impressed

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ChameleonD 20.01.22

My goal is a city car of 500 horses)) I don’t want to do cramps, the wrong car, it’s too big and quite heavy))

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Golovnin 20.01.22

Yes, in my opinion the best option is a good vegetable for every day
And + half-worry with the embodiments of ideas

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ChameleonD 20.01.22

Well, from my own experience I can say that this is one of the most reliable Japanese motors. Not much climbing inside, you can remove 600+ horses from it and at the same time drive this car for bread, that is, it will not be the most extreme forcing, I think the resource before the bulkhead will be more than 150,000 with proper assembly and tuning of course. And if you already tune with all the money, then you can achieve 800 - 1000 horses, but this is already extreme, of course not for every day, with unpredictable reliability.

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Golovnin 20.01.22

what do you think (know) what can be squeezed out of 2JZ? (approximate maximum)
And how much survivability will it have?

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aMasterMind 20.01.22

and here it's already 6 :)

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Leon2JZ-GTE 20.01.22

nice way to describe the sensations =)

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nunogolos 20.01.22

excellent comparison)
at the first one, she pulled off your kapets and then even not very much, I think these are problems that have been eliminated for a long time)

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ChameleonD 20.01.22

Mostly from America) Doraga balin (

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Salesman 20.01.22

Yo-my ...
Where do you get inspiration to describe the work of certain units?
Ah…
No…
Who do you take inspiration from and why? =) =) =)

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Lis-850 20.01.22

Yes:):):):)

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ChameleonD 20.01.22

Yeah, don't go anywhere at night

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Lis-850 20.01.22

The main thing is not to go into the yard with such an evening :) :) :) And it’s so cool :) :) :)

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ChameleonD 20.01.22

Uh-huh will yell) And spit fire)

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Lis-850 20.01.22

In general, when I did it myself, I wanted to bring it to the rapids. But then my friends dissuaded me, they became scared:):):):):)

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ChameleonD 20.01.22

As Corky Bell said: "The best exhaust for a turbo engine is its absence")) This is not the atmosphere where you need to calculate according to the law of gas dynamics) On the turbo motto: -Wide! -Straight! -Briefly speaking! )) In general, nothing complicated)

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Lis-850 20.01.22

Properly made for a turbo engine. I tried to hang my own on the shed - there is no such effect :)

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ChameleonD 20.01.22

Sad without it) Exhaust — gives a lot)

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Lis-850 20.01.22

God himself ordered the exhaust to be sculpted :) :) :)

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ChameleonD 20.01.22

One

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Lis-850 20.01.22

Does it have 2 lambdas on it?

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ChameleonD 20.01.22

Yes, with an equal length and also with a stock exhaust, the bottoms were bad - then pearl

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Lis-850 20.01.22

Puffy pickup :) I had a smaller one. Although boost 1 — 1.2 was … I wonder why …
Do you have such a pickup with an equidistant collector?

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Lmtyf 20.01.22

Gone with the part about KAMAZ.

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somebody 20.01.22

Tin!