New tires - Toyota Corolla Levin, 1.6 liter, 2000
My neova last year (which was on rear wheels this year) was already completely worn out and it was necessary to change it for something. The choice fell on Advan A048. I had never ridden semi-slicks before, I wanted to try what it is, compare it with Neova and combat slicks.
Unfortunately, there was no choice of dimensions, so I had to take what I have - rather narrow 195/50/15
After a couple of weeks of use, I can share my impressions :)
1) Holds just super! Neova nervously smokes on the sidelines, the hold is almost at the level of combat slicks
2) Noisy, which is just PPC! The rumble is such that it is as if you are riding in a trolleybus
3) It is erased literally before our eyes :(
I wonder what will happen in the wet, it has not rained yet ...
in the ball it is erased before our eyes, in the lower one I did not see wear for 100 minutes, without changing shoes I went from the lower one, the impression was like flying on an airplane.
Slideman
Do you mean the article on apex.ru? :) I don't ride in Jimkan.
I like handling, the car has become faster.
Wow. good site, I did not know)) I will study))
and about different wheels — I dabbled in the winter. front Hakka 5, rear summer tires. and along the ice track))) just let off the gas - that's it, ass forward))
The front-wheel drive in slow corners understeer by default (well, with rare exceptions), so the character of the car has not changed at all. Well, in the fast ones, where the understeer is already excessive, the speed has increased due to the better holding on the rear axle.
Nope, the tires are the same. I mean, in theory, the butt holds better than the muzzle, so at the speed where the butt is still holding, the muzzle should begin to plow due to the worst handle. I guess so, because I have never ridden on tires that differ greatly in front-rear grip. The fact that it is faster is understandable, because the overall grip has improved anyway, but has it become more difficult for her to control, adjusted for the muzzle sliding before her ass?
Do you mean the article on apex.ru? :) I don't ride in Jimkan.
I like handling, the car has become faster.
Slideman
neova
Different tires interfere with normal driving? In theory, understeer should be significant.
Well, in the rain it will just have to be taken into account, that's all.
Fortunately, in Myachkovo rain is rare.
In addition, you can always rearrange the front and rear wheels in some places.
on wet pavement in a ball you will know which rubber holds better, the main thing is that without serious consequences.
This is what I meant...
In general, Myachkovo in the rain is a rather dull attraction, even on the same rubber, I try not to ride there unnecessarily in such conditions.
I don’t think this is necessary :) Neova holds better in the rain, and putting it forward will overtake you ass :) last year I experienced it, my back overtook me in the Samara turn, not a very pleasant feeling.
Question price?
Composition like M.
And about the cup, an honorable second place is not so bad Max:)
if you decide you can take my 195/50/15 they are not quite in the trash yet ... it’s enough to fail once in the ball ... I put the last set of heavy 050s (:
048 were erased just terribly quickly ... those that were from the back to the cord ... from the front were still alive but the
old 050s are still alive :)
what composition? M or MH
for the OP Cup, it makes no sense for me to go =)
Pasha, I told you I'll bring it and show you.
I do not know. how can that be.
Shl The tire fitter was also surprised when he changed shoes.
Sereg, how can this be? :) My 048 195/50 is really narrow, definitely narrower than 205/50 neova.
I agree!
BUT! If you want, I will show you bottles 08 225/45 and 048 195/50.
Now I will not write, because I really seem like an idiot. But 048 - hmm ... to put it mildly, not already and decently more ...
And another 048 scratches my arches. On 888 in the same size, this was not the case.
Is it just me?
It is incorrect to compare rubber in such different dimensions.
In driveland and Mytishchi, tire width is everything, so it's not surprising that the time on 08 was almost the same. But your times in Myachkovo (there are very wide tires interfere on the straights) confirm my words!
Well, in driveland and Mytishchi (eight), I drove one day on 08 (225/45 16) and on that 048 that was in the ball (195/50). I wrote about it by the way.
The time was something + - 0.5 seconds ...
Of course, it felt like 08 was floating, whistling, but God forbid, it gave out time.
And most importantly, very stable tires.
PS I do not argue with you, I repeat, perhaps the composition is different.
I have 048 at 35 degrees, I started to keep the circle from the 3rd.
Of course, 048 is better, but I didn’t have a space difference.
But after Hankook, there was space on 888 ...
Times in a ball (mine)
Hankuk Ventus R-s2 - 2.10 (first time in Myachkovo)
888 - 2.05.815
Ad08 - 2.06.210
A048 - 2.04.096
Sereg, my conclusions are based on practice, and yours? I drove on different tires one day, and could compare the time and behavior of the car on 048 and 08, all other things being equal. 048, even with a smaller width, holds an order of magnitude, or even two, better!
Well, if you say that between 08 and 048 heaven and earth, then between 048 and a normal slick - no less.
By the way, I do not agree at all that 08 is just so much slower and worse.
What is heaven and earth then? I got the same amount of time. Although it’s faster on slicks, of course, but I wouldn’t say that heaven and earth
Well, you compared with slicks. Heaven and earth.
You have to look at the ingredients...
For some reason, it wears out much less than 888 (you yourself saw it) and it starts to keep very well warmed up.
By nature, I like 888 more.
In time, 048 personally gave me 1.8 seconds. (When compared with 888)
Paradox
Apparently the composition decides.