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New tires - Toyota Corolla Levin, 1.6 liter, 2000

   Toyota Corolla Levin 16 2000

My neova last year (which was on rear wheels this year) was already completely worn out and it was necessary to change it for something. The choice fell on Advan A048. I had never ridden semi-slicks before, I wanted to try what it is, compare it with Neova and combat slicks.

Unfortunately, there was no choice of dimensions, so I had to take what I have - rather narrow 195/50/15

After a couple of weeks of use, I can share my impressions :)

1) Holds just super! Neova nervously smokes on the sidelines, the hold is almost at the level of combat slicks
2) Noisy, which is just PPC! The rumble is such that it is as if you are riding in a trolleybus
3) It is erased literally before our eyes :(

I wonder what will happen in the wet, it has not rained yet ...

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nikon333 20.01.22

in the ball it is erased before our eyes, in the lower one I did not see wear for 100 minutes, without changing shoes I went from the lower one, the impression was like flying on an airplane.

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tim-38 20.01.22

Slideman

Do you mean the article on apex.ru? :) I don't ride in Jimkan.
I like handling, the car has become faster.

Wow. good site, I did not know)) I will study))

and about different wheels — I dabbled in the winter. front Hakka 5, rear summer tires. and along the ice track))) just let off the gas - that's it, ass forward))

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Slideman 20.01.22

The front-wheel drive in slow corners understeer by default (well, with rare exceptions), so the character of the car has not changed at all. Well, in the fast ones, where the understeer is already excessive, the speed has increased due to the better holding on the rear axle.

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Ricerider 20.01.22

Nope, the tires are the same. I mean, in theory, the butt holds better than the muzzle, so at the speed where the butt is still holding, the muzzle should begin to plow due to the worst handle. I guess so, because I have never ridden on tires that differ greatly in front-rear grip. The fact that it is faster is understandable, because the overall grip has improved anyway, but has it become more difficult for her to control, adjusted for the muzzle sliding before her ass?

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Slideman 20.01.22

Do you mean the article on apex.ru? :) I don't ride in Jimkan.
I like handling, the car has become faster.

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Ricerider 20.01.22

Slideman

neova

Different tires interfere with normal driving? In theory, understeer should be significant.

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Slideman 20.01.22

Why so?

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nikon333 20.01.22

in vain you put different tires.

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Slideman 20.01.22

neova

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Ricerider 20.01.22

And what's up front?

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Slideman 20.01.22

Well, in the rain it will just have to be taken into account, that's all.
Fortunately, in Myachkovo rain is rare.

In addition, you can always rearrange the front and rear wheels in some places.

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nikon333 20.01.22

on wet pavement in a ball you will know which rubber holds better, the main thing is that without serious consequences.

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Slideman 20.01.22

And then what, Captain obvious? :)

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nikon333 20.01.22

These tires have different grip properties.

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Slideman 20.01.22

This is what I meant...

In general, Myachkovo in the rain is a rather dull attraction, even on the same rubber, I try not to ride there unnecessarily in such conditions.

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nikon333 20.01.22

I don’t think this is necessary :) Neova holds better in the rain, and putting it forward will overtake you ass :) last year I experienced it, my back overtook me in the Samara turn, not a very pleasant feeling.

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Slideman 20.01.22

Question price?
Composition like M.

And about the cup, an honorable second place is not so bad Max:)

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matik 20.01.22

if you decide you can take my 195/50/15 they are not quite in the trash yet ... it’s enough to fail once in the ball ... I put the last set of heavy 050s (:
048 were erased just terribly quickly ... those that were from the back to the cord ... from the front were still alive but the
old 050s are still alive :)

what composition? M or MH
for the OP Cup, it makes no sense for me to go =)

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Blackyy 20.01.22

Pasha, I told you I'll bring it and show you.

I do not know. how can that be.

Shl The tire fitter was also surprised when he changed shoes.

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Slideman 20.01.22

Sereg, how can this be? :) My 048 195/50 is really narrow, definitely narrower than 205/50 neova.

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Blackyy 20.01.22

I agree!
BUT! If you want, I will show you bottles 08 225/45 and 048 195/50.
Now I will not write, because I really seem like an idiot. But 048 - hmm ... to put it mildly, not already and decently more ...
And another 048 scratches my arches. On 888 in the same size, this was not the case.

Is it just me?

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Slideman 20.01.22

It is incorrect to compare rubber in such different dimensions.
In driveland and Mytishchi, tire width is everything, so it's not surprising that the time on 08 was almost the same. But your times in Myachkovo (there are very wide tires interfere on the straights) confirm my words!

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Blackyy 20.01.22

Well, in driveland and Mytishchi (eight), I drove one day on 08 (225/45 16) and on that 048 that was in the ball (195/50). I wrote about it by the way.

The time was something + - 0.5 seconds ...

Of course, it felt like 08 was floating, whistling, but God forbid, it gave out time.
And most importantly, very stable tires.

PS I do not argue with you, I repeat, perhaps the composition is different.
I have 048 at 35 degrees, I started to keep the circle from the 3rd.
Of course, 048 is better, but I didn’t have a space difference.
But after Hankook, there was space on 888 ...

Times in a ball (mine)

Hankuk Ventus R-s2 - 2.10 (first time in Myachkovo)
888 - 2.05.815
Ad08 - 2.06.210
A048 - 2.04.096

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Slideman 20.01.22

Sereg, my conclusions are based on practice, and yours? I drove on different tires one day, and could compare the time and behavior of the car on 048 and 08, all other things being equal. 048, even with a smaller width, holds an order of magnitude, or even two, better!

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Blackyy 20.01.22

Well, if you say that between 08 and 048 heaven and earth, then between 048 and a normal slick - no less.

By the way, I do not agree at all that 08 is just so much slower and worse.

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Slideman 20.01.22

What is heaven and earth then? I got the same amount of time. Although it’s faster on slicks, of course, but I wouldn’t say that heaven and earth

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Blackyy 20.01.22

Well, you compared with slicks. Heaven and earth.

You have to look at the ingredients...

For some reason, it wears out much less than 888 (you yourself saw it) and it starts to keep very well warmed up.
By nature, I like 888 more.
In time, 048 personally gave me 1.8 seconds. (When compared with 888)
Paradox

Apparently the composition decides.

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Slideman 20.01.22

Certainly. I'll try soon.

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elk 20.01.22

on all four 048x it would probably be faster))

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London 20.01.22

the back became interesting too)

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Slideman 20.01.22

Are you a fan of all-wheel drive? :)

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London 20.01.22

at night I rode on the s2000, the front was winter, the back of the A048 — it holds very cool!
fell in love with rear wheel drive :)

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Slideman 20.01.22

Why is it not good?

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LANOSlet 20.01.22

good cut) but different from the front and from the back it's not buzzing