My opinion about the car and a little story about consumption, etc. — Toyota Mark II, 2.5 liter, 1993
So, sooner or later, all lovers of sofas become interested in what Tourer V is and what it really is, here I will try to talk about its qualities, shortcomings, consumption, small baubles and the like.
I will not repeat how I got this car, everything is described on the main page.
What can I say in general about the car, it's a car with a character and not quite a simple character and getting into her soul is not very easy, but it's worth understanding it as you become one on the road.
So the first week of driving, I actually never turned off the TRC, because I was afraid a little bit, at least from the back, there is a native lock that drags it on it well enough. A week later, he began to turn it off more often and give heat. As for consumption, the bar did not fall below 25 liters for the first month. for a hundred 95 in the city, well, driving out on rides 98. I fell off without taking out, as they say, from a traffic light to a traffic light, we have a lot of different bemeve 525 here, it can be said that for most it is a very racing car that knocks down just PPC like, well, from doing there is nothing and rode around the city from traffic lights to traffic lights leaving them far behind, and then when I realized that there was no point in drowning, what was the point of burning extra gasoline, my consumption fell from 25 to 20 liters, after another couple of months, it was already 18 with driving around the city and going on rides with slight anneals, and with just a quiet ride, sometimes it turned out to fit into 16 =) on the highway, the consumption in principle makes me very happy, it was 10 liters. with the included condenser. Although I didn’t feel much difference in consumption along the highway with him or without him. With regards to handling, well, I rode a stock car and realized that this is a very fast and soft sofa in principle. But if you put the screws, then everything becomes completely different, when I took the car it was underestimated to the very worst, and it handled just like a big kart, but here you should not forget about the rubber, there is no rubber, there is no good steering, and of course in a critical case at high speed blows the face because it is not easy at all, and if you have bad tires in the back, then with a fun braking and simultaneous rearrangement, it turns out to be a very funny thing and the rear wheels begin to block and your ass begins to be dragged intensively. so don't skimp on good tires. Later I lifted it up a little. on our roads and with our recumbent policemen, he hushed up all the thresholds for himself, well, in the management it played in this way, it became much more comfortable to drive in the car, I don’t know why, although all the hardness adjustments remained at the very hardest, but the car became much softer, with all this management has become a little worse, tk. when cornering, the muzzle of the car began to lean more, but still this control is enough for me. Now about power and the like. Initially, when I took this car, everyone said that they say you will drive in the winter, because a lot of those people who we have ezdiit tourers only in the summer when there is no snow. Well, to be honest, I was frightened, I thought everything was so sad, but even so I didn’t preserve the car, but decided to buy 16th wheels from the supra and put winter friction tires on them, and you know, I rolled all winter without zaparok, you just need to have a head and not go where you don’t stands in the head should always remain that this car is rear-wheel drive and quite a powerful engine. Winter is in principle a great time to start learning to drive sideways, which I did, studied and got used to the car, understood how to put it in a skid, how to pull it out of it, and thanks to winter, I sometimes allow myself to burn a little and ride sideways. I will say this to put it in a skid, in principle, it is not difficult for anyone, and then it is also quite simple to manage it on the track without much hesitation, the main thing is to do everything smoothly and accurately, he does not forgive mistakes and fears. I actually drove all winter with the TRC turned off, since the roads were often in ice this year, and it’s simply unrealistic to touch the TRC on ice, the car is so choking that it just stands still and you can only hear how the damper is silky, and without it you slowly play gas and you go. Spring is coming and in order to ride in the summer without straining, I decided to make the whole hodovka. china didn’t take it, took everything off and took it for restoration, everything was restored and tfu tfu tfu to this day everything is fine, only when collecting all this, one jamb was allowed into place, I broke the ABS sensor at the back, and, accordingly, ABS does not work well and since TRC is directly related to it, it also doesn’t work, well, it’s summer now, and many people say that summer is much better without it, well, I felt it and I’ll say, in fact, the car slows down much better, well, if you know how to stop without causing the wheels to lock. To this day, I also go without ABS, but I think it’s worth fixing it by the winter =)) because. in winter, braking such a carcass on ice is not very fun =))) So, summer, summer, a couple of fun, annealing, rides at 402 meters, I won’t lie, I’ll tell the truth, I learned to touch correctly only after a year of owning this car, now I’ll try to roughly tell how to do it , you warm up the tires, drive up to the start. you should turn the car until your wheels start to stall, that is, we catch this moment at the peak of the breakdown, then the car leaves just great and does not fall into the turbo lag, you just need to carefully play with gas and it will go just gorgeous. To this day, I also go without ABS, but I think it’s worth fixing it by the winter =)) because. in winter, braking such a carcass on ice is not very fun =))) So, summer, summer, a couple of fun, annealing, rides at 402 meters, I won’t lie, I’ll tell the truth, I learned to touch correctly only after a year of owning this car, now I’ll try to roughly tell how to do it , you warm up the tires, drive up to the start. you should turn the car until your wheels start to stall, that is, we catch this moment at the peak of the breakdown, then the car leaves just great and does not fall into the turbo lag, you just need to carefully play with gas and it will go just gorgeous. To this day, I also go without ABS, but I think it’s worth fixing it by the winter =)) because. in winter, braking such a carcass on ice is not very fun =))) So, summer, summer, a couple of fun, annealing, rides at 402 meters, I won’t lie, I’ll tell the truth, I learned to touch correctly only after a year of owning this car, now I’ll try to roughly tell how to do it , you warm up the tires, drive up to the start. you should turn the car until your wheels start to stall, that is, we catch this moment at the peak of the breakdown, then the car leaves just great and does not fall into the turbo lag, you just need to carefully play with gas and it will go just gorgeous. I learned to touch correctly only after a year of owning this car, now I’ll try to tell you approximately how to do it, you warm up the tires, drive up to the start. you should turn the car until your wheels start to stall, that is, we catch this moment at the peak of the breakdown, then the car leaves just great and does not fall into the turbo lag, you just need to carefully play with gas and it will go just gorgeous. I learned to touch correctly only after a year of owning this car, now I’ll try to tell you approximately how to do it, you warm up the tires, drive up to the start. you should turn the car until your wheels start to stall, that is, we catch this moment at the peak of the breakdown, then the car leaves just great and does not fall into the turbo lag, you just need to carefully play with gas and it will go just gorgeous.
Now I’ll tell you about some of the jambs that you should do when buying this car, if you are going to change the timing, then do not be stingy, take a repair kit for the power steering right away. rubber bands and gaskets over time, if no one has changed it, it starts to slowly get wet and then slowly eat dextron, the same thing with a copper washer on the radiator, the same thing happens from old age, dies and starts eating dextron from cooling the fan. I never repeat, never fill up with 92 gasoline, personally checked, at first everything seems to be fine, but the candles die instantly, you will be lucky if the candles die, it’s worse if they are coils, coils are nothing cheap, if we convert into rubles, the cost is 8000-9000 rubles, the car begins to fail during acceleration, jerking, the speed is growing but there is no dynamics. There are also 2 exits here. either buy new coils or, as they say, a collective farm, we wrap all the coils with electrical tape and everything works fine, it will last for a very long time, but in the future it’s worth replacing with normal ones =) It’s also worth changing the thermostat when buying, because how many of these machines they took they got out of standing after a couple of months , my Mark skated longer all the whole year =)) but then his time came. at first we thought that it was the pump that opened the pump and it was like new, climbed to the thermostat and PPC to him ... Well, for now, everything seems to be, I will slowly update the story with new articles. And if you are in doubt whether to take or not to take a tourer ... Do not hesitate to take it! Do not wish! Machine for the soul =)) it’s enough for a very long time, but in the future it’s worth replacing it with normal ones =) It’s also worth changing the thermostat when buying, because how many of these cars they took they went out of stand after a couple of months, my mark skated longer for a whole year =)) but then its time came. at first we thought that it was the pump that opened the pump and it was like new, climbed to the thermostat and PPC to him ... Well, for now, everything seems to be, I will slowly update the story with new articles. And if you are in doubt whether to take or not to take a tourer ... Do not hesitate to take it! Do not wish! Machine for the soul =)) it’s enough for a very long time, but in the future it’s worth replacing it with normal ones =) It’s also worth changing the thermostat when buying, because how many of these cars they took they went out of stand after a couple of months, my mark skated longer for a whole year =)) but then its time came. at first we thought that it was the pump that opened the pump and it was like new, climbed to the thermostat and PPC to him ... Well, for now, everything seems to be, I will slowly update the story with new articles. And if you are in doubt whether to take or not to take a tourer ... Do not hesitate to take it! Do not wish! Machine for the soul =)) And if you are in doubt whether to take or not to take a tourer ... Do not hesitate to take it! Do not wish! Machine for the soul =)) And if you are in doubt whether to take or not to take a tourer ... Do not hesitate to take it! Do not wish! Machine for the soul =))
exactly! a car for the soul and even a bit universal for a family e-class and long-distance travel =)
by the way, I also left the first winter without the fuel dispenser ... because for some reason it stopped working after replacing the engines
yes, this is a perennial problem. for the majority of those who swapped zhizet why the mall does not want to work =) it stopped working for me just out of stupidity =))
Interesting review. Everyone who has ridden and rides an atmospheric brand wants a turbo (don't believe anyone who says otherwise). Very informative.
Pour at your discretion, or try everything that they advise, well, except for shit, of course ... I first poured gastroest Edge Sport 10 60, I didn’t eat it normally either, but in winter this oil is n *** ... the temperature regime is not the same for us if you leave and rush in the summer in 40-degree heat and the engine does not spin up to 9 thousand, so this oil has stopped pouring. then I tried a regular castrol 10 40, but even somehow it wasn’t bad and not good, the engine worked noisily on it, but it didn’t burn and didn’t eat, so it’s normal, but I didn’t drive it for more than 5000 thousand nirazu. But I also stopped pouring it, now I’m pouring American Mobil is sold strictly in liters of 10 30 tfu tfu tfu and in winter and summer the car behaves perfectly, the engine does not work noisily, the oil does not burn even with good dumps, it turns black, which means that it works and collects dirt, I drive 6000 thousand km on it and live normally, filter put sakura from Kruzak. But if, of course, the Motul cash allows you to get into the engine, excellent oil has been tested on levins, etc. they spin up to 9 thousand and the oil shows itself well under conditions of harsh use, so it’s up to you to decide what to pour. I and a few tourer growers pour mobil and tfu tfu tfu everything is fine, oil is not very expensive, but not everywhere, there are a couple of places where we have it, you honestly have no idea where to get it in Astana, castrol 10 60 is expensive, 10 40 cheaper but not very, motul ahu**noe but stsuko also not very cheap. judge decide choose =) I and a few tourer growers pour mobil and tfu tfu tfu everything is fine, oil is not very expensive, but not everywhere, there are a couple of places where we have it, you honestly have no idea where to get it in Astana, castrol 10 60 is expensive, 10 40 cheaper but not very, motul ahu**noe but stsuko also not very cheap. judge decide choose =) I and a few tourer growers pour mobil and tfu tfu tfu everything is fine, oil is not very expensive, but not everywhere, there are a couple of places where we have it, you honestly have no idea where to get it in Astana, castrol 10 60 is expensive, 10 40 cheaper but not very, motul ahu**noe but stsuko also not very cheap. judge decide choose =)
lol bro! I back about what oil is better to fill. special for turbo or no difference. welcome!
that is, as I understand it, there is no such thing as strictly pouring special oil for turbomachines. As for mobile, I know. on his former Mercedes flooded like not bad. thanks again for the advice. and one more question how to be with the intercooler. how to clean it and how often.
there is no concept of special oil, but you need to pour only synthetics. You don’t need to wash the intercooler, the water will get there and if it doesn’t dry out and this water will go either to the intake or to the turbine, which is not very pleasant, so drive calmly, even climb in there, clean the front =)) change the oil change the candles and everything is going well.
With washing, everything is simple, remove the akuma, wrap the clamps with thread (stupidly package), and wash. BUT! the only place where water should not get is the ignition coils, you can try to remove the plastic cover and seal all these things with tape, but I just tried not to get water there, if water gets there, take everything off and land so it’s better not to start, well, about this I don’t know for sure, I just tried not to get there, I washed the dviglo, put everything back in place and started it calmly, but I think if you changed the Akum you should have faced the fact that the machine’s speed is very low and it works like a barge, if I didn’t encounter it, I say, don't be scared, everything is fine, just the computer dies after the clamp is removed, you start it warming up, it can go away by itself, or you can just leave it a little well and put it on it and everything will be fine.
Well, here, too, you already know better, when it happens, I accelerate L 2 D, well, just when you drive, in the usual rhythm of driving around the city, you don’t need this, I rode on 402 just like that, because the rubber was finished in the trash, and with normal starting if it was in D, then it switched to the 2nd, which is not needed at all, so I pull it on the L-ke completely, although it slips, it pulls normally and does not switch earlier from time to time, you need to switch from L to 2nd on thousands of 6 otherwise he’ll hammer you into the cut-off and will switch to the second one for a long time ... Well, in general, I’ll say this, I drove this way until the rubber was killed in the trash because I wanted to get under way normally, I drive so rarely now,mostly on D and mosk I don’t soar ... Well, maybe the right box for these cars is 1 2 3 4 5 and one more carrion to the left of the brake =) I’m hopeful even when I’ll accumulate money and buy myself a mechanic =)
rakhmet calmed down. otherwise I recently threw off the clema, I look at the low speed, I think something is wrong, but later everything became buzzing. so what else to ask)))) how to work with the box when annealing on the road?
Well, depending on what kind of surface, if the asphalt is not wet and not oily, then it’s quite hard to break it into a normal skid on the second, so I just carefully also rode on the l-ke and the 2nd but don’t overdo it, it’s no longer a straight line where the switch is just going on , here the box will play all the time by switching. But on the drive it’s hard to shift it, but you get used to it and it’s normal.
yes, you are right about the mechanics on the markovka.))) in short, do not bathe and drive only on the d-ke. (for beginners) it's just scary to switch at such speeds. and if the drift will need to be done there how? welcome!
Well, take it off, with a cacher, fuck all the dirt, knock out all the dirt, it will heat up less, but if there are holes in it, then put it in the rack and look for a new one, but just ask for a font =) oil in the box is 40 thousand, I don’t immediately remember the nuances ... but, well, maybe the pulley on the crankshaft is fucked up, but it’s more likely from old age than from the type of use, well, in general, I already changed the pulley for myself, it’s good that the pulley was lying in the box from the usual dvigla not a turbo, but they fit without problems, put it in and everything is fine =) ask questions .
thanks again for the advice. I think 2 speed is enough to drift. What other nuances are there for tourists? How often do you need to change the oil in a box? Today I looked at the intercooler Mlyn, I don’t like it. all covered in dirt. can wash it gently. he is not just covered in dust, but a layer of dirt on him. welcome!
Yes, there’s no problem, you’ll ride puff, I have a Blitz that’s nice and hisses quite loudly, of course I like the sound more when pressure is dropped through the west gate, the sound is just gorgeous, but **** it’s a bit expensive, it’s a pity for the turbines, but put a bypass Yes, go ahead, it won't get any worse.
Hey! how are you? I have another question)) is it worth it or is it possible to put a pshikalka (blow off) on the stock turret. what can you advise? welcome!
buy where the thread is on the KZ forums, in Astana I honestly don’t even know where you can get it, we have a lot, both China and Not China, look on the forums on www.toyota-club.kz/forum/ in the Flea market section, look on the Subaro forums, in general I think this is a small problem, the more there are people who are from Astana, they can send ours, I think, by train. How to install, there is a lot of this material on the same forums or ask Google =) it’s so easy to explain quite dreary, and everyone can connect it in their own way, I threw a photo into the topic here, zoom in, you will see it circled in red (not very brightly true), I have such a scheme. and so if you want something to hiss but quietly, put the filter to zero and you will already hear the hiss.
If possible, can you take a picture of what it looks like. where it is located, etc. big rahmet in advance.
Hey! there is most likely a difference, because the walker is a little different than on ordinary vegetables. It seems to me that spacers are not an option, either buy new springs, or take screws right away =)) The screws are easier, adjust the buish as you need, raised it higher for the winter, lowered it to the floor for the summer, a convenient thing, well, the only thing is, of course, hard, but then the control quite different =) Well, for me, the screws are raised for the winter, a little, I think I’ll lower it to the very bottom by the summer =)
Hey! how are you? another question. whether there is a difference in the springs from 2, 2.5 and turiks. the old owner cut off a couple of turns to underestimate, now on the contrary I want to make it higher since I put on 16 wheels. what do you think brother springs or spacers to buy.
I don’t know, you know better with springs, if you like soft and comfortable, then put it from 3 liters, if not, look for screws and that’s it =)
here they also advise from a 3 liter spring. supposedly moving harder than on ovoschi.
there is a speedy run of 120 thousand, $ 300 delivery at your expense, respectively.
Well, you can remove the cut-off like this, as far as I heard $ 100, you can install a computer, we could take mines for 300, all the cut-offs were removed on it for both boost and speed and fuel, but you can’t set it up. There is one good computer, by the way, the person who carries them lives in Astana, the computer is called Vems, if you have heard of an autronic computer, it costs from 1700 in foreign countries, it comes to 2000 atoms and more. Vems with its full assembly costs 900 if you collect it yourself, that is, solder it and somewhere in the region of 1000 it is already ready in the curpus, you just need to put it in and drive, the kit comes with the computer itself, map, egt, something else, it can be controlled completely to everyone including the box, but for us this is it, consider essentially the same autonit current cheaper, but a little more complicated, but you can figure it out, when you buy it, they open a branch on the forum where there are some approximate auto settings, and then you yourself. In general, the thing is very worthwhile, I’m saving money right now for him, you can take such an initial set, consider it around $ 600, in general, if you are interested, I’ll give you the person’s number, you will communicate with him. He will cut you down and tell you what and how. and if you just need to remove the speed cutoff, contact a competent electrician, they will most likely do it.
everything is clear. I still have enough current to remove the limiter.))) how have they not sold the tidy yet))
By the way, the skin number of the person who deals with computers. Can he recommend a good electrician?
the surest way. you lift it up on a lift, put it in neutral, climb under the car and spin the Cardan, at this moment if both wheels spin in one direction, then there is LSD, if you spin in different directions, respectively, no, well, there is an opinion that LSD is on all tourers, only someone didn’t change the oil in the gearbox and it stupidly stops working, you stupidly change the oil and everything starts working.