How to install LPG on VAZ 110 16 KL part 2
Yesterday I posted the first part of the installation instructions for the LPG VAZ 110
Who cares-catch second!
Once again, the user manual did yourself))) That is, it is her first appearance on the network!
PART 2
The highway runs from the multivalve under the vehicle, fasten the nylon ties 200х4 so that it is not in contact with the exhaust system and moving parts of the car. On request it can also be laid in the corrugation.
The installation of the special equipment
Remove the intake manifold and make a hole with a diameter of 5mm at the level of the connectors of the petrol injectors at an angle so that they do not interfere with each other when installing gas pipes, and in any case not against the intake air reaching the collector.
Drilled hole pass with a tap M6 not forgetting to blow out the shavings inside the manifold. Next install the inlet gas, applying the "thread lock" and give some time to grasp the thread.
The dress fitting the gas tube prepared in advance necessarily of the same length so that they would be enough for connection to the gas injectors which in this case we put in a convenient place – reservoir.
Connect the gas hoses from the manifold to the gas injectors and put in place the intake manifold.
Try and set the injector on the manifold by the prepared bracket.
Choose a place for installation of the control unit for which remove the battery and fasten it to the side of the bolt M8 pre-drilled hole. After mounting the control unit connect to the connector wiring and begin to distribute the wire insulating them with electrical tape and gofrey to other nodes.
Select the location to mount the gas reducer, we have in this case, the seat mount cushion car engine. Then use the bracket that comes with gear fit it in place and vygeboom the right configuration, then produce fasteners reducer gas filter to the top.
Install the temperature sensor on the reducer.
Connected to the reducer tosolini hoses with a diameter of 16mm, after cutting off a desired length (blijaishee and convenient place to toolname hose car which is suitable to the cooling of the engine throttle). To the second ends tosolini hoses coming from the gearbox put the 16mm with adapter for 10 mm clamping them with the hose clamps.
To be continued...
Amr78
Moreover, they are not front wheel drive! I will explain. Is the power wire to the starter, it must be protected against short circuit, if closed then kick the sparks, etc. Now look where is the starter on Toyota, where is the starter on BMW and Mercedes. It is identified in crash tests, rear wheel drive starter on the right, in the back of the motor. In front wheel drive the starter from the front of the engine! There is the gift to close it a couple of trivia. When the tests on the strike at Mercedes was not the case circuit the power wires to ground, at the front drive circuit is almost always. According to this, which would free up engine space, Mercedes can remove the battery in the trunk, Toyota and other front-wheel drive can't.
what can you say about the KIA brand, these battery and to the left and right(I know from personal experience, working the official 2 years)?
and about the short circuit, if we talk about new cars, now put power before, immediately after AKB, and if the closure happens before the rest of the previous(as in the case of the starter, as there is no betrayal in the block in principle)-that triggers it.
Amr78
Mercedes leave, there is a special design . And the Volga and VAZ 07? Tea you still remember the 60s
the Volga and the classic Vase are made to this day!)and regulations on them also function as on all other cars! even crash tests are on the same requirements!
Amr78
We have right-hand traffic. If the wheel Japs are right, they are designed for left-hand traffic, they akum with law. During a frontal impact, in our country, damaged the left part of the car, akum set to the left that would blow if it was broken and damaged that would shut down the car. The reducer in turn, must save, it is better to put right.
guys if the Japs have just the right battery? :)
on my car and such, battery is to the left.
Generally we are talking about the gearbox. Should also act as secure. Why put the gearbox near the battery, the power wires? Do not be the probability that upon impact, the gear will collapse and can auto combust? Reducer is necessary to protect it from bumps.
that does not need to explain! this is not even asked. Do not meddle in the bottle.
about the battery the Japanese are wrong, so I ask what this opinion
ZEDger
EURO-standard of the year? Because I have a Corolla and Tercel 1998.
Why do I have to explain something? I need this? Is the Euro-1, Euro-3, Euro-4, etc. To date, the requirements of fire safety other. The collision of electrical equipment to be energized, must complete an additional capacitor for the airbags are deployed. About Japan and America, no question.
Write here, I have something, I have it. Cars manufactured for use in Europe, done right. We are not talking about Japanese cars here which brought by private individuals.
What is the standard? Your car 17! Years! Seventeen years! And Japan there is not included, this is not Europe !
Amr78
It is a Euro standard, which have never been seen before, it was introduced recently.
EURO-standard of the year? Because I have a Corolla and Tercel 1998.
Thanks for the info, all the intricacies of installation. Today the car is being towed with the installation of LPG. Now I know what to look for when the machine will accept.
probably, almost sure that they otherwise you will install the LPG :)
Alex2110-2170
Priore is LPG (installation of equipment under the hood is the same, only the injectors are under the intake manifold can only be reached from below, above they are not visible), the first 2 years the car included air conditioning did not go, flashing brains did not help. Came to other Adjusters of gas from said nozzles on the injectors is 1.5 mm, when I removed and drill at 1.5 mm checked the diameter of the nozzle, and then drilled to 1.9 mm. Machine gas became faster. You rassverlivat nozzles before installing? The reducer is embedded in the heated throttle when the outside temperature is 0.+5 and below when you first start engine in the morning when switching on gas (standing still) when the engine stalls (the first winter after installation, this was not)? The transition temperature gas is 50 degrees.
so much for the installation of LPG...
Rjenich
Also connected to the throttle, winter consumption of natural gas increased to 22L/100km., now down again to 15L. Will connect to the stove, otherwise any savings.
how much is 1 liter of gas?
DimonLPG
spot drilling the wrong hoses from the fittings to the injectors too long!Need drilled with an incline! And the mister is not necessary to remove the pit or on the lifts excellent access))tie-in for heated gear as well is not correct, vrezatsya in system cooling only parallel to the stove and through the tees of the same diameter!In Your case(washing through drosel)))) at -20 degree reducer will be sub cooled, and judisim case, just disconnect the gas!Brains LPG only connector built into the bottom, the water passes through the seal in rateme-verified bitter experience!Not writing from the Phanar, and have two hundred for the installation of LPG, would it help if the questions are!
the meaning of all this? throw a link as a kettle, curious.
Lis30rus
Brains LPG only connector in the bottom, the water passes through the seal in rateme-verified bitter experience! KRASAVA
I have set pictures that after 4 years rotted the connector.
And if I set the connector up and the year would not have skated, though.
pictures installed, and 4 years ottdal.For people like you "not ryazapov" instructions in each kit is attached!
Dee and "bitter experience" not mine, but the customers who themselves LPG set)))
Brains LPG only connector in the bottom, the water passes through the seal in rateme-verified bitter experience! KRASAVA
I have set pictures that after 4 years rotted the connector.
spot drilling the wrong hoses from the fittings to the injectors too long!Need drilled with an incline! And the mister is not necessary to remove the pit or on the lifts excellent access))tie-in for heated gear as well is not correct, vrezatsya in system cooling only parallel to the stove and through the tees of the same diameter!In Your case(washing through drosel)))) at -20 degree reducer will be sub cooled, and judisim case, just disconnect the gas!Brains LPG only connector built into the bottom, the water passes through the seal in rateme-verified bitter experience!Not writing from the Phanar, and have two hundred for the installation of LPG, would it help if the questions are!
Storm134
Well, don't argue yadi.sk/i/BO0e30I0hAp8r
Model cars with the number of bodies in the Studio. We will be detailing the directory to watch.
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In any case, near the handbrake is the SRS controller, not the sensor. The sensor may be built into the controller. But the sense of sensor that measures only congestion will not. Shock sensors there is still. And they should be located at the nodes of the frame — there is good will, where the load upon impact. It and from the pictures on your link seen. I have only the two side sensors and pillows. Is 2 shock sensor, 2 pillows and 2 tensioner belts.
Well, don't argue yadi.sk/i/BO0e30I0hAp8r
Model cars with the number of bodies in the Studio. We will be detailing the directory to watch.
I do not want to argue, it makes no sense. The reality remains reality. Let your car be with the shock sensors, and my car with one sensor SRS, which is under the handbrake.
In the SRS unit with a built-in sensor of slowing down. Shock sensors are placed on the power elements of the body, otherwise no use of them.
Where install? In any car I had ever seen. Near the handbrake is the SRS controller. If you looked closely, you would see that I have a just jap. And the most that neither is a thoroughbred.
Mazda and other Japs sensor one, near the handbrake. Well it doesn't matter. The fact that the cushions are triggered before the destruction of Akuma, maybe. But there's a security measure, such as prohibition of Smoking at gas stations. I, personally, have not tried, but failed to ignite gasoline with a cigarette, not even gas lights up from cigarettes. But still measures predostorozhnosti needed. For this and establish additional storage for deployment, if the system takes out from the impact.
It all depends on the system of SRS and design. I have 2 gauge and standing on the rails in front of the TV. But the design of the pillows the same. Fuse with shock mechanism is in the cocked position. The signal triggered the EM lock(check) and the firing mechanism ignites the charge. Look at the crash tests. In slow motion it is visible that triggered the airbag at the initial moment of crushing the power of the spar.
Storm134
Well, think about it. Undermining pillows work prior to the crushing battery. And it works with a delay in the mechanical strength of detonation-driven EM.
And which sensor is responsible for airbag know? And where it is located? It is only one
Amr78
What is the link? I'm not getting the info. You just have to keep a head
Well, think about it. Undermining pillows work prior to the crushing battery. And it works with a delay in the mechanical strength of detonation-driven EM.
DsOne
Dear fan of statistics... can you provide data on the number of burnt passengers of the installed LPG? Butte good
Usually they were all Smoking behind the wheel.
Proizvoditeli say that no matter how to put the reducer, the main thing that is DVLA to maintain, and not interfere with other components,
It is not about how to change, just one "talent" was laughing with the fact that I put a reducer filter forward, and said that in the current situation will last a long time.
slawan00
Ti wanted to say "parallel" course of movement, it's understandable. And here is where the filter in my care.
And change it as then going down if the cover will look?
DsOne
Hoses should byit the same length, allows for the use rastlinnej langov, but VERY much more complicated tuning system, and not the fact that everything will be rebuilt and will work as it should! You can always choose the location to mount the rail where the hoses will be the same, or use injectors type Hana.
Those that live on the manifold are?
VladOZ777
Just happened to notice this post. On my Tino the starter is behind the engine, and drive forward...
It was said that if the starter and power wires from the front, hence the akum is also from the front driver side. And don't forget the countries in Europe !
VladOZ777
Just happened to notice this post. On my Tino the starter is behind the engine, and drive forward...
Someone here said that Tino starter motor in the trunk?
Amr78
Moreover, they are not front wheel drive! I will explain. Is the power wire to the starter, it must be protected against short circuit, if closed then kick the sparks, etc. Now look where is the starter on Toyota, where is the starter on BMW and Mercedes. It is identified in crash tests, rear wheel drive starter on the right, in the back of the motor. In front wheel drive the starter from the front of the engine! There is the gift to close it a couple of trivia. When the tests on the strike at Mercedes was not the case circuit the power wires to ground, at the front drive circuit is almost always. According to this, which would free up engine space, Mercedes can remove the battery in the trunk, Toyota and other front-wheel drive can't.
Just happened to notice this post. On my Tino the starter is behind the engine, and drive forward...
For farm, no more. Cylinders dropping from a height, and they did. But the gas tank to break in an accident — this case is cute, he's plastic.
decided to bomb him to carry?be careful we got in an accident it is the bomb and earned, the master decided to save himself and lost
Never understood these people who go on the gas equipment for vases.he and so consumption is minimal!
I put myself the 4th generation and I read a lot and delve into the essence, Fitting incorrectly drilled, despite removed the manifold away from the injectors and the jet hit the wall of the collector, no angle = that's too bad, that's the basics, guys. The second heating Drosera is after the thermostat so heated for a long time, the nozzles of the oven coming from a small circle of the cooling system, so heat up much faster, and this extra gas consumption, it is also the basics and this is very bad for flow. It is necessary to connect to the stove parallel with tees and nobody will freeze — neither the driver nor the reducer, since the thickness of the hoses there 16mm., and joselina hose 10 mm Yes, and the adapter kills the section. They will do stuff and then write on the forums "I have a big expense, what to do?" "I have no dynamics..." use your head and You will succeed.
KMaxim
This is the instruction of how to do? You vpadlu was collector to wipe away the mud before drilling? Haven't watched the first part but in this.
1. Fitting serverload as close as possible to benzofurans at an angle of 30 to 45 degrees.
2. Manual installation Podkarpacki says that the ECU is exclusively a connector built down.
3. The hoses to the injectors it is impossible to do longer than 30 cm But generally tends to do as short as possible.
4. Heated gear sucks. will freeze in winter. What prevented to make on the stove?
Moments agree. Flanks short, the connector is only down and fitting in fact does not necessarily direct to the atomizer, but Yes, the closer the better and the angle it is necessary to give thorough, so that the nozzle psycola gas is not in the wall, and the intake on without disturbing the air flow. Well heated... I would hands tore the vampires that hang on the heated throttle. There, and so then desman, and then there's the gearbox, barely heated in winter. Here, too, want periodlate heated, but still has the problem harder, gavlak above 0.5 for the complete endovascular treatment does not rise. Curled on the pressure reducer is a bitch... apparently the membrane tryndyat (
Oh Yes, great difference, who knows better than all manufacturers combined, as I didn't recognize you)))
Oh well. You then see the schema. And I know from experience. Although who am I writing this.
And never for that. Looking at the wiring diagrams from manufacturers. Although, who am I telling?)))
If you take heated with the stove, in this case, it will not freeze the gear and nose of the driver in the winter!
This is the instruction of how to do? You vpadlu was collector to wipe away the mud before drilling? Haven't watched the first part but in this.
1. Fitting serverload as close as possible to benzofurans at an angle of 30 to 45 degrees.
2. Manual installation Podkarpacki says that the ECU is exclusively a connector built down.
3. The hoses to the injectors it is impossible to do longer than 30 cm But generally tends to do as short as possible.
4. Heated gear sucks. will freeze in winter. What prevented to make on the stove?
mrbordos
OOO bomb ready=)))
Explode do gas, but you know what I can say about this? www.youtube.com/results?s...2%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B8
Andrei542
Beautiful gasoline explodes and burns...
You're so validating to say because reviewed a lot of American films, but they do not undermine the gasoline and special bomb attached to colorful pictures, and mind you there is not one video where a guy goes on petrol and he's in the middle of the tube off the gas tank,=))) but on the gas equipment of the full video=)) and then the usual video recorder sealed, not galivud
Tomin17
And where's the gas? And where's the explosion?
Beautiful gasoline explodes and burns...
I agree with you, but I'm only at the beginning of read here the comments where many said that set all wrong, so I concluded that this is another bomb for fireshow=)
It was a subtle hint. Gavlak about 100 points on the test. The gas tank from plastic. Insights? Blame the installers or those who do not bother service.
haa funny=)) you're interested in and others need to Google, the 21st century man Wake up on the nose, climbed into the Internet and find anything you like...and mind you more explosions of cars to gas equipment in the summer on hot days, so on blast is affected by many reasons and factors that you think=))) the very unfortunate cause and effect about which, not one motorist for gasoline't even realize =))))
Interesting, for me personally, for the overall development, at what pressure opressovkoy the tank of the car?
so you can see that the cars go on gas))) and you wish that the camera was mounted directly on a tank of gas and the explosion was visible fire shows, a lot of you want.
Content with the videoconference video regisration those drivers that saw explosions nearby auto=))))
I agree. If not riding so it is in the host . Something is not properly done. Or the motor is fucked. Normally she goes and Bense(95 of course) and on gas))))
complete heresy, some rushing God forbid, and sometimes even rides better on gas than on petrol, maybe this is due to the crappy injectors or filters, but the fact is, I have the most is HBO 4 generation and I would not say that the direct difference so severe, for me it rides better on gas, can speed and losing it, but comfort is better, the car is smoother, as with diesel drive, all so gently, no kicks in the ass what is incomprehensible jerks...and so on)))
This car is on petrol eating goes, and then put gas, it's up, but I put on 10 of gas , I did not like, and I worked for the gas sector and gas interfered with by anyone, she's not going anywhere. WMS had methane or her put pussy.
Ogronom
read as much soul rejoices, the gas set, had questions and then the answers I do not want to take.
but also a lively discussion
the truth is she's somewhere nearby ;)
"conclusions do to you" (Honest detective)
why is the header that is not laundered? in the mud, drilled and fastened, the horror.
I agree. For good I saw if native speaker clamps on the nut, Unscrew and extend the clamps. And the clamp... after 2 years will be the "glass" on the bump and boom the whole pathway on earth. All ties in these moments — evil! I understand wires to pretot, but no it is not a gas pipe 2 meters length.
All gas companies put on the bottom. Did not see any one sensor in the cabin is. Still and everything in ripple, one wire more will not be worse.
Well, and what would the wires to the fuel pump there is not проложиkb at the factory. And less hassle.
It is necessary to guess the wires to put underneath. :) The wires to the level sensor on the cylinder extend through the cabin.
Amr78
Moreover, they are not front wheel drive! I will explain. Is the power wire to the starter, it must be protected against short circuit, if closed then kick the sparks, etc. Now look where is the starter on Toyota, where is the starter on BMW and Mercedes. It is identified in crash tests, rear wheel drive starter on the right, in the back of the motor. In front wheel drive the starter from the front of the engine! There is the gift to close it a couple of trivia. When the tests on the strike at Mercedes was not the case circuit the power wires to ground, at the front drive circuit is almost always. According to this, which would free up engine space, Mercedes can remove the battery in the trunk, Toyota and other front-wheel drive can't.
ON my starter side engine shield.
and we have gas 15,50 — 16,50 became ( And when I go to the Krasnodar region — where gas from 18 rubles.
Satellitich
calculation formula:
I thought so.
Original data:
The cost of installing equipment — 21000 rubles.
The price of gasoline is 33 RUB.
The price of gas was 15 RUB.
Consumption on petrol (average) 7 l/100km. TOTAL cost of 1 km on petrol 33*7/100= 2,31 RUB
Consumption on gas (average) 8.5 l/100km. TOTAL cost of 1 km of gas 15*8,5/100=1,28 RUB.
Saving on every km of the way is of 2.31-1,28=1,03 RUB.
Payback time will come (in reality a little more — consumables in LPG and maintenance) through 20388 km. Then the hardware is working plus.
My average mileage per month 5000-6000 km. Paid for itself in six months. LPG is already more than 3 years. So consider how I saved money.
Almost the same mileage so about 9-10 km, corresponds paid off faster, but gas-16.20 R
Satellitich
on the 4th LPG when properly configured, the power reduction you will not notice.
I have in the trunk a round top in place of the spare wheel. Stepney walks through the cabin as needed.
And Yes!
Well, sitting not the couch-that everyone can, che is there to say...
П1здеть — no bags to roll.
People tried to write the article, took photos, and everything took a crap.Put yourself better and not pussy.those that man...Well, there are some drawbacks, they each have...
no offense but what you show — fufel which for hamsters is only going to sell it.
I don't think I'm showing specific examples. Not something shameful in the truth do not see.
Actually on the normal setting and no one says, read carefully what I wrote or did not write about the shame of gas put most people want to save money and to save money they start all over, starting with the installation of LPG and ending with the fact that they even have a fire extinguisher in the car.
So the video masters suckers who bends the float in the tank or clean the razor "shop, every time I open the gas got!11"
The multivalve Euro class(which is new) when the cylinder pressure rises above the acceptable it relieves excess gas in the ventilation box, and the box with the gas safely out on the street, no explosions and other bullshit that is on YouTube.
Feniksjan
Haha, this gas is needed. To do that is to do with the increased compression and translation engine on high-octane fuel. Gas do not see the point of the bomb to carry.
Gyy what kind of bomb? do not disgrace the bomb is methane that is)
I don't want to argue, it holivar.
it's just your comments, saying that if the motor is decompressed, the bomb, but when raising the degree of danger of gas do not disappear or decrease
"but if the degree of increase already there" about what I have said, it's your speculation. Exploding gas tanks on YouTube hard to find, gazzaley in a car easily ! Practice a terrible thing. Just do not say what they say all the right, properly installed would never do that, it doesn't matter, what counts is the statistics. And according to statistics put LPG anyhow and anywhere because the people putting LPG, put it because of the economy, respectively, begin to save immediately, with masters and equipment, with all the consequences. BUT matter, I just Express my point of view, it is that the gas in the car is not safe.
if razgermetizatsii gas tank too, no risk of explosion in the absence of a spark\of fire as well as gasoline, the topic has long abavana there is no point in arguing.
my remark was inserted in order to point out your double standards.
"decompressed motor on gas — bomb, but if the degree of increase already there"
The gas tank is not under pressure and there is no risk of explosion due to depressurization.
Haha, this gas is needed. To do that is to do with the increased compression and translation engine on high-octane fuel. Gas do not see the point of the bomb to carry.
I wanted to ask how is the blue thing on redutores and what it is?My friend has cracked it.
This engine has serial problem, especially noticeable when working LPG. Rather the problem is purely "electric" for all VAZ 2110-12.
If in short — low spark energy (due to losses in low-voltage circuit).
Myself a couple of cars with LPG were modified — the result is positive and directly felt. The same reviews on D2
www.drive2.ru/b/2173392/
Hopefully, the approach will be useful in Your work.
If you are interested in more detailed in the details — in a personal email.
What is the gas consumption on this engine?
I have VAZ 21124 city consumption 11-12L.
can't understand why high flow I ((
From the injector to the manifold 3 cm😂much less? Parking parallel to the stove through the tees! All Feng Shui)
I would suggest injectors to fix a little different, the hoses are so short. Cooling connect to the stove consistently and not choke. The throttle plate is sore, clogged. The injectors have a photo from a personal blog to me.