Abrasives that I use.
Hello!
I like that they blame the fact that I use the materials and techniques of work, which is "a mere mortal", and know what should not. They say it's a lot of pros and not garage tinkerers. I strongly disagree with these allegations and believe that anyone with Internet access can and should be aware of the situation in the spheres that are interesting to him.
However, I decided to group in one place information about the minimum of materials and related devices, which are necessary for body repair. I'm not talking about the salesman, we will focus exclusively on the tin.
So, what abrasives and tools I use when working on a Bucket and why.
0. I try to use abrasives 3M — very high quality, brutal efficiency and resource at a considerable price. However, consumption is so small that the price can simply hammer. Therefore 3M.
1. First of all adapters. They need to attach the supplies to mount Rolok (Roloc) to the instrument. I use the adapter with a diameter of 75mm and with M14 thread for grinders and spindle adapter for the drill. They look like this:
PU fact, it is a major investment when you start working with the 3M — are each about 800rub, but are purchased once a lifetime.
2. Sanding discs for grinders with a diameter of 75mm:
There are sanorania for work on different materials, while abrasive for stainless steel, nonferrous metal and steel are different. Grit, of course, is much different for the tasks. My interest in him is the dressing of the weld seams, therefore, the grain size of 60+. Photo latest discs abrasive "Cubitron 2" — very aggressive cut and about three times more wear resistant than "normal" drives.
Cost is around $ 80/EA.
3. The Stripping laps Scotch Brite for grinders with a diameter of 75mm:
Main purpose is removing paint and other coatings. Efficiency brutal, with wire brushes to compare is just silly. Floatstone and protective covering from the bottom tear off just playful, without the use of force and violence against tended. Metal tinder is very weak, almost barely scratch — perfect to finish Stripping areas of welding, where there should be a visible repair.
Cost about 100 rubles/PCs.
4. Angle grinder and Scotch Brite for the drill. Diameter 100mm, thickness 13mm, can take the form of complex surfaces (like the inside corner of the area):
The use of the same — Stripping paint and floatstone. Durability when applied correctly is very high — all the podkapotka Pail left one disk.
Cost 650rub/piece
This simple set can be close to a sweep in the trade almost completely. The only caveat — Scotchbrite deteriorate from contact with the so loved by our farmers with bitumen. It is understandable — the bitumen on the car especially have 50 years no one in their right mind pours :)
Numbers and adapters, you can easily find yourself in the 3M catalog, it is important to know what to look for.
I hope the review will find it valuable!
While!
I think if you ask Google something like "zametno cover for the bottom", the fiction will not be one hour :)
IRomanoff
There is a special circle of family Cattle-Bristow for removing tape and residue with the car :)
very detailed, and that now replaces the bitumen? pure metal+kislotnik+seam sealer+primer+paint? and all?
Anthonymus
3M and was like. Not cheap. I on instruments and consumables do not save. What rpm are better off?
Not more than 2000 (more will burn the varnish). They work great, even Indasa and RDAs. Use 15 years.
Thank you. I used a long time ago. Now again have. I will look for info and training :-)
You need to watch description from the 3M product, I do not have their statistics exactly on the circles for removing tape. Have experience overseeing the work of the painter, the speed was relatively large, I think around 2-3 thousand, not more. The result then was great — no adhesive residue left. However, again, personal experience with these circles I have.
3M and was like. Not cheap. I on instruments and consumables do not save. What rpm are better off?
Should not what I'm talking about a specific product from 3M. About DIY Chinese car market out of the question.
Thank you. I have tried some. Maybe the speed was too big, but I did not like...
There is a special circle of family Cattle-Bristow for removing tape and residue with the car :)
Thank you. It was informative about Kubitron. Can you tell me what is better to remove the double-sided tape and its residues from paintwork?
good tool and consumables — the key to success ;)
the use Clean''n Strip'AMI, good stuff))
CaptainSergio
Good review! But tell me. A regular grinder is 10 thousand rpm. That's a lot in most cases. There are grinders with adjustable?
I have a Bosch grinder with a stepless control of revolutions, the wheel on the end, very convenience
CaptainSergio
Thank you. Interesting — Latr for this purpose, suitable?
Will not work, will fall sharply power. Grinders with controller in General is not uncommon, but are worth the money.
I have done that. The simplest voltage regulator on the carrier set and all. The network is full of schemes.
Good review! But tell me. A regular grinder is 10 thousand rpm. That's a lot in most cases. There are grinders with adjustable?
Yes, normal price, good tool, never was not cheap. Especially since all of the price in a snap, and she bought into tasks and very rarely.
Thanks for the review =) the prices of course Achtung) I have just a set of brushes on the drill, because the fortune they are clearly trying to kill you )) Plus a heat gun.
3M abrasive discs podhodyat excellent for grinding welds, where it is important not to overheat the metal to make a classic grinding wheel is very easy...
Auto-Em or AutoProtect. Auto-Em are good guys, same Cubitron brought in, which has really never sold. But to go a bit too far... AutoProtect itself is a good organization, there is a very experienced technical specialist lives, but the managers who are the end buyers is a full paragraph. Lazy, you can answer to wait for days, don't like it. Refused their services, good advice can now obtain from other equally experienced and competent hands :)
Also Tape the Bride to use for the drill on the iron leg. They come in 2 types, rough as you have purple color and soft, more gentle blue. The Stripping laps took Wurth for Neri it's just hard removes metal polishing bagarozy disk. Yes a good tool is a pleasure to work who would not say that, I even brush metal take bosevska they stay longer.
Good stuff. I have Velcro they are, and emery glass-dust and sponge for polishing, and bought a grinder and a drill. A very good tool.
The uncles agree with You one hundred percent, but what to say if a normal skin when examined shows the difference of materials, the grain is smooth, risacca it turns out perfect, but it's nice to work a good tool mmmm
Support the promotion of good tools on the wilds of the drive
Does not belong, not yet picked up in their range suitable for my purposes material.
Zayac0074
and if they don't? there are some mechanical solutions?
1. Remove old paint by sand blasting.
2. The processed disk with an acid or one of the already hundreds of different chemistries to clean metal.
3. My.
4. Sprinkle with powder paint, throw in the oven.
5. If necessary/desired — polished.
6.Or Hairdryer to try and construction, sandblasting place
Thank you uncle Alex! I your blog and read the logbook to come from, very informative! Sometimes it will be noted in the comments, if questions USDRP will appear, okay?
What I mean is that the event is not at a penny it, so to wait until you have to. One thing, another thing is a hobby — I'm not earning :)
About 300, you're hot, at least 400 and the air supply ( the receivers) not less than 200L. I work the usual Soviet compressor which is 2 years older than me ( and resiverov to 300L)g-a.d-cd.net/c2d8f42s-960.jpg
Until the problem in the compressor, because if you do, then really just with the ability to work LVLP the spray gun and any air tools, and this means that the minimum of 300L/min output performance give. Prices for branded compressors of the corresponding class as not good, so the question is put on hold. Although in the preparation of the garage pnevmonii the walls were padded, and everything connects in minutes :)
Not Melisa, take it. Buy the simplest pneumatic ( with proper care will last long — there is nothing to break) and you will have happiness. He only recently figured it out, although the tool is never regretted. If you are interested in the blog a lot of articles. Though mostly about brushes.
In Bristol I've been to lather, but unfortunately have not yet got the Pneumatics and speed of power tools is at the lower end (11 thousand in Bulgarian). Nothing will come with time :)
Great abrasives, there are small BUT work better with a pneumatic tool ( in rpm после10000) and resistance above at times. Can add to the collection brush Bristl — blows any surface, removes the oxide on the weld seam. I don't know how the plastic is not destroyed. Holds up to 25,000 rpm. On drills not working.
And about the fact that the comments do — spit and take care of your health. You need to work ONLY good tool. Good luck!b-a.d-cd.net/2a8492s-960.jpg
If you think logically, if the locally heated chrome it will flake off of Lumina. An acetylene torch, for example. The factor of thermal expansion are different.
sqe
apparently he is actually immortal))) peskostruy - no brush/sandpaper - no, there is only chemistry))
ferric chloride a try.
francevi4
Chrome present very disappointed will not take. Take the abrasive, the same relacom, but gently, make no undercuts. The main thing to cling to. Then you can press the "purple circle" ( that's what scotchbrite written) and to bring the finer abrasive.Can a regular grinder with a flap circles ( which are not exotic). If there is no need to remove completely, but only to mate for subsequent coating with any grit, then pour epoxy primer. Filled with risk, even from R100.
Hmm, if not to be blasted with sand and electrocorundum say? The idea of the rigidity of the above should take. But don't know how the discs themselves will outlive... Well, not budgete must(
indeed, read diagonally =) of course suffer, sposobne fit. if your conditions only the physical effects.
sqe
apparently he is actually immortal))) peskostruy - no brush/sandpaper - no, there is only chemistry))
Chrome present very disappointed will not take. Take the abrasive, the same relacom, but gently, make no undercuts. The main thing to cling to. Then you can press the "purple circle" ( that's what scotchbrite written) and to bring the finer abrasive.Can a regular grinder with a flap circles ( which are not exotic). If there is no need to remove completely, but only to mate for subsequent coating with any grit, then pour epoxy primer. Filled with risk, even from R100.
apparently he is actually immortal))) peskostruy - no brush/sandpaper - no, there is only chemistry))
trusky factory chrome in peskostruy say that you will not take, and the disks to bend can( suggest mechanically, but did not specify...
In spite of that chrome. If the paint that will be removed, if no electroplating. Discs I would peskostruy.
Great review, and from experience I think they will do a purple chrome with disk drives? or anything else to use?
Rebuked the supposedly Pro-Kosowski, who believes that work on the Bucket being in the relevant service. Well Yes, everyone is his own evil Pinocchio...
I like that they blame the fact that I use the materials and techniques of work, which is "a mere mortal", and know what should not. They say it's a lot of pros and not a garage craftsmen.---more and rebuked...now people have all the answers in the Internet, probably just too lazy to think and Google it
Not at all! When it's really nice to read and so much interesting to know.Now I know who to contact for advice when you decide to fix the shoals on the body, which I inherited from the previous owner.
That's what it means when the material is properly presented. Moreover, in the article itself a lot of useful information and tips, including the fact that they on their own experience-tested, and the comment a lot of interesting people sharing their wealth of experience. Thanks for the review. I will continue to wait.
squash3
It looks like advertising. 3M the quality is excellent of course. About the bitumen does not agree. Better bitumen mastic as price-quality is not. Lay down on acidic soil.
As it "Lay down on acidic soil"?
It looks like advertising. 3M the quality is excellent of course. About the bitumen does not agree. Better bitumen mastic as price-quality is not. Lay down on acidic soil.
gelezjaka
Experts here, cushion theorists are a dime a dozen. Don't argue with them, they know better))) I first wrote to the boiling water (the emphasis he put), then scored all the tips. Here there are some "bison" body repair, now you can listen to them. The rest by ear.
Piece hi — could you please put a link to a couple of bison body repair — do you want to draw benefit for themselves — thank you !
just wondering. the feeling that the man was digging with his hands, and suddenly he was someone threw a stick, and lying next to a shovel and mind is not enough to look around. Grabbed a stick and shouts that there is nothing better
IRomanoff
That today all the proper tips to submit, and what is strangely one-sided :)
Here just a little bit lower in the comments already had a conversation about power tools and I there is quite clearly expressed, why use electro. Can certainly begin to broadcast why a Bulgarian may be used for work. Then you can think about the connection dimensions of pneumatic tools and small grinding machines, in particular, and try to apply it to the adapter with M14 but... But there's a Pro and already know everything. So I won't ;)
Experts here, cushion theorists are a dime a dozen. Don't argue with them, they know better))) I first wrote to the boiling water (the emphasis he put), then scored all the tips. Here there are some "bison" body repair, now you can listen to them. The rest by ear.
For me it's just advertising 3M any Pro will offer you many different tools and abrasives at a much lower price. 3M is the name and quality but are not reasonably high price
IRomanoff
To describe the tool which work and it was never to say that he is rassmy and generally run all buy what it is advertising? Or maybe I'm the tool earn money and entice all to itself for repair? Or said that the tool is bad, but it is 3M the best? Where is it, show me please?
And you know not very nice to here such unsubstantiated claims, so trouble to explain.
and why 3M
Yes do not be offended. you no complaints. all the rules, took pictures of and showed. I just added all. can afford like a Pro))))
I just don't pretend to be "Pro", read again carefully. There is nowhere said about it, on the contrary, I consider myself a fan ;)
I showed nothing and never had. just added. people have a right to know the truth. the more I heard the words "professionalism", so if applying, be professional to the end)) and welds possible and a grinder to clean, nothing bad will happen))
To describe the tool which work and it was never to say that he is rassmy and generally run all buy what it is advertising? Or maybe I'm the tool earn money and entice all to itself for repair? Or said that the tool is bad, but it is 3M the best? Where is it, show me please?
And you know not very nice to here such unsubstantiated claims, so trouble to explain.
yeah I didn't think handing out advice, just the topic was not disclosed. smacks of is 3M and not more than
That today all the proper tips to submit, and what is strangely one-sided :)
Here just a little bit lower in the comments already had a conversation about power tools and I there is quite clearly expressed, why use electro. Can certainly begin to broadcast why a Bulgarian may be used for work. Then you can think about the connection dimensions of pneumatic tools and small grinding machines, in particular, and try to apply it to the adapter with M14 but... But there's a Pro and already know everything. So I won't ;)
It's all good. Only if we talk about professionalism, these circles are not grinders and not the drill... There is a special zachistka pneumatic machine palm-sized (sometimes straight and angular), so these consumables it for her. Grinder and drill in hard to reach places will not tunnel, and that little in his hand sits well. Well, again pneumo that was slowed down when a large resistance, a longer service life of the abrasive and the mandrel and that on the 1st photo (the way they are not eternal))
All properly written. Those who call themselves pros and cons so because it's a business. This info should be shared because we are sometimes a wizard throw out unreasonably large amounts and the presence of hands growing from the ass is a lot you can do yourself, because in the end, the pros also had to start somewhere.
Better than that angle grinder on the market I have not seen. If there is rzhavchine in the pores of it then gnaws its simple, and need no phosphoric acid, etc.
3M strong firm, except that we have in hard to find products from this company, many sellers "raise an eyebrow" on hearing 3M.
These devices are already 7 years .Excellent development. and reduce the time.But without cars in 21tys\about not enough and the compressor 200L as well.
Well, then drills with a speed of 3.5 thousand and above in the stores fill up, not uncommon for a second.