Starter relay installation — logbook Toyota Cresta 1990
Those who own the 80s must have encountered their childhood illness - when starting, the retractor clicks, but the starter does not turn. Mine is no exception, and this disease has become chronic in her, and recently it has become very annoying, since a rare start happened the first time and I had to click 50 times until the starter grabbed. Reading the forums, I already knew for a long time why this was happening, namely, due to a loss of voltage somewhere on the way to the retractor and he simply did not have the strength to close the contacts. This is solved simply, you need to install a relay that will close the circuit directly from the battery to the retractor. Some kind person even drew a diagram. The relay took a powerful and thicker wire. After half an hour of work with a soldering iron, my starter is no longer naughty and starts the engine the first time!
Issue price: 150 ₽
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yeah ... especially when trying to start from the signaling ... it rarely starts, while you come up with the key - immediately
Sod's Law! I do this every morning! I see a way out...
yeah ... especially when trying to start from the signaling ... it rarely starts, while you come up with the key - immediately
Russian ingenuity will win everyone, the Yaps would be drawn to a serious malfunction :)
Well, look at the diagram, everything is drawn there - you need to open the wire that goes to the retractor and connect it to the relay, and in the second one take it from the ground, that is, when you turn the key, the relay works. Then take a thick wire and throw it on the relay contact, and from it to the retractor, so that when the relay is triggered, the current goes directly from the battery to the retractor. Something like that. The tool is proven, works like a clock!
yes, it’s a complete ass, it looks like a chronicle. Yuran, if it’s not difficult, describe in detail what and how it is about this relay.
no, autorun will not hurt. And the usual Russian relay is only more powerful, I think I took 50 A. In the tasik store. And immediately take a block to him.
and another question: if you put it with autorun, it won’t hurt one another? and what kind of car is this relay so that it!
and I thought it was necessary to change the retractor already ... I didn’t know such crap ... thanks to good people I’ll save money, time and nerves!)))
I remember it gave me such a click-click that when I put the relay I thought why I didn’t do it for a long time!
Yes, there is a whole bunch of comrades with a similar problem … When buying, there was such a problem, the previous owner changed everything on the starter, and replaced the retractor! I rolled off 7.5 rubles - but the problems are the same ... We are solving the problem in the near future!
Hi Den! No, why 86 and 87? 30 and 87. In the diagram, one moment is not entirely clear (I didn’t draw it) to 86 we connect the wiring that went to the retractor from the brain (or where it comes from), and to 87 we connect the retractor itself.
Yurik, hello, after the swap, I didn’t connect the relay, the problem got out with frost, do we close contacts 86 and 87?
THANKS A LOT! I put this device on myself, everything works fine. I've broken my head. What they didn't do. And it turns out vprinyipi such a trifle. And then it got tired of clattering with a starter constantly. And especially when you need to go somewhere urgently. It would start up in 40 minutes. And right now, pah, pah, pah with half a turn to wind up. It's -20 outside. Now at least do not freeze the snot in the morning, wait until it warms up. Thanks kind person.
cool, i have the same problem. the starter went through many times already and could not find the cause. and this is where she is
the problem is this at startup, the scoreboard lights up, I switch the trace with the key. the situation is quiet without hints of anything, is it a relay? =((
ohhh miracle he came to life, by itself =))) all the same, he opened the fuse box and noticed how the relay should have clicked, there was no such sound before. she was the problem!
filmed the starter 3 times … recently decided to buy a new one … Thank God that there are people and sites like this! I will save a lot of money
I connected everything today! I spent 1.5 hours and then I don’t know how to solder! Everything works like from Japan))))
30- plus
85- to ground
86-wire that fits the starter to the retractor
87- to the retractor
So?
to 86 we connect the wiring that went to the retractor from the brain (or where it comes from) there was a wire that a chip fits the retractor, or is it somewhere else to look for it?
I tried to connect this circuit absolutely OOOOO! made everything work differently! I'll post the link later with the story.
In the 80s there were relays on "models for cold climates" (on a diagram from the book of the Legion-Avtodata publishing house). And that's the connection. On the 90s bodies, the regular one is also included in the same way. And one more thing: just in case, it’s better to plug a 7.5 A fuse in front of the relay.
Well, it’s not mine, but there is no relay on the 80s, where the circuit passes through the lock and somewhere else, and as a result, the voltage is lost. I connected exactly as in the diagram and this glitch never showed up for me. And I have never heard that the 90s suffered from this. Could it be something else?
your circuit duplicates the circuit of the machine and it operates on the condition that the wire from the lock is working properly with the same success, you can change the relay to Russian
I did everything according to the scheme, except I start it well, but from the signaling, as before, only the relay reads ... what could be the problem?
I have a question about the starter, as I understand it, the relay should be on 4 pins?
Hello everyone! Help I have a problem. I can’t start the car mark2 1gfe, I insert the key and turn it, but I don’t start it, the tidy lights up, but as soon as I turn the key to the ignition, everything goes out and the acoma sits down sharply. It used to start but not the first time. What could be? I blame the starter.
And sometimes it also clicks on my cross, and sometimes in the cold the starter spins idle and does not start the engine, it starts normally from 2-3 times. Is this related to this or is the starter itself defective?
I do not understand. Why don't they install a relay from the factory?
That's it, yeah... I'm in shock!
It doesn’t always catch me either, I already wanted to remove the starter, clean the brushes ...
I remember that due to the lack of such a relay in the Zhiguli, the contact group in the ignition switch constantly melts. I thought the Japanese are smarter and put relays.
I have 2 plugs hanging on the braid, and here one of them goes to the retractor, the other to the sensor, if you experiment and plug it in turn into the retractor, and try to start it, I think nothing should happen?
some kind of left, there should not be wires, the clutch master cylinder is placed there
jtorrent.ru/view.php?img=...af34ea9b183a4f9745339fc97 I have a simple yet incomprehensible wire from here, what could it be?
plz tell me, I disconnected the starter, but I didn’t notice which wire went to the retractor! does it go to the retractor wire from the braid?
My father recently started such garbage on a penny, he looked somewhere at the diagram from 2107, he went and bought the same relay, put it in, now it’s a nice thing))) but how he goes to the city, starts up, I took it several times over the summer, I always had to start it from the pusher ... then I got tired of pulling, I threw a wire directly onto the starter a couple of times ...
Greetings! You can’t tell me, there are two wires going to the retractor on the JZX, one thin brown (3mm) from the braid and a thick one that is screwed from the fuse box to the retractor. Which of them should be put on the relay? Thank you. And then the problem got (
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Is this for a couple? I'll take a picture as the bad weather subsides =) I.e. does this thick power wire sit on the relay?
Good day! Tell me all the same, which wire to put on the relay is a thick power wire or which one with a chip?
Greetings! I got the problem that you had, tell me the answer to my question: all the same, which wire to put on the relay is a thick power wire or which one with a chip? starter photo below