On the features of operation - Toyota MR-S, 1.8 liter, 2002
The car is very different from the vast majority of cars on the streets of our city. Yes, double, yes with a soft top. But this absolutely does not prevent you from using it for every day.
There is no desire to get into a loan (I do not like bondage), therefore this car and the subsequent ones - only for their own money. Perhaps in the summer it will be possible to buy an inexpensive low-volume Japanese city car, but so far this is the only car in the family. Therefore, I drive a car almost every day and in 9 months of ownership hit about 15,000 km.
Now, everything in order. You feel very comfortable behind the wheel. The seat is very comfortable, ergonomics, like all toyotas, are at a height (only for the first week I got used to the fact that the windows are not located on the door armrests, but on the dashboard, under the handbrake). There is practically no electronics - there is no climate control, there is only air conditioning on "twists", electric glass lifts (driver's with auto mode, passenger - without), electrically adjustable side mirrors (but they fold manually), there are no footlights and a glove compartment either, only a central lamp is installed ... Here's a spartan salon. The dashboard is very convenient - three "wells" do not allow glare to appear, the tachometer in the center is a very smart decision, because in summer I practically do not pay attention to the speedometer. As I wrote before, the box on the car is sequential, so there are 2 extras on the tachometer in the center. lights and display - reverse lights, neutral, display for displaying the engaged gear.
I will dwell a little more on the control of the box. The lever itself can be in 3 positions: neutral, reverse and position S, that is, directly sequential mode, in which the switching occurs - towards itself "+", away from itself - "-". Gears are switched only manually, that is, when you spin the engine before the cut-off, the box itself will not go to the increased one. But if you, for example, go to any gear except the 1st, then at a full stop (or movement less than 2-3 km / h), the box itself will "go down" to the first. If you were driving at a speed of 50 km / h, slowed down to 20 km / h and did not lower the gear, you will hear a characteristic sound that you need to turn on another gear. From a place you can get under way from both first and second gear - from 3 and above is no longer possible, the box does not switch - the so-called "foolproof". You can change gears both with a lever and with buttons on the steering wheel - they replace the paddle shifters here. Buttons on the steering wheel - for downshifting, buttons under the steering wheel - for raising. They are located both on the right and on the left - for right-handers and left-handers, respectively. It is fashionable to switch 2 gears at a time without losing switching time. You can also move the gearshift lever to the neutral position, and then back to S and the box itself will select the required gear.
Everything seems to be about the box. There will be questions, ask - I will answer. When asked which is faster: sequential box or mechanics, I don’t know the answer. In Moscow they measured it - like a mechanic, here in Novosibirsk - a sequential one. It probably all depends on the driver and the general condition of the car. But if the sequential is slower than mechanics, or vice versa faster, then it is not at all much, the difference is in hundredths of a second.
Questions about the roof are also often asked. There are no problems with her at all. In summer, water does not get in, even at the sink, when rinsed with a kercher, in winter it is not cold in the car. Perhaps it cools down a little faster than an ordinary car, but when you go - at least take off your clothes before a T-shirt (for the whole winter, and it was -35, out of 4 stove speeds I used only the 1st). And the interior heats up very quickly, because it is small. Recently, I specially conducted an experiment: at -20 on the street in an hour, the temperature in the cabin dropped from +10 to -5 degrees. There is also a hardtop (hardtop) on the car. But they say the difference is small in winter.
The car itself, although it looks small, but for two people, the places are simply heaps of. I am 180 cm tall, if the seat is all the way back, then I will not reach the pedals. And the father-in-law with a growth of under 2 meters in the passenger seat did not feel constrained. The only difficulty is disembarkation, landing, because you sit low, and the doors are quite long. When you sit down, everything is very convenient.
But despite the landing, the clearance in the car is 13.5 cm, which is very decent for such a car. During the winter I never got stuck at all. All due to the fact that, firstly, the car is very light (about a ton with a full tank and a driver), and secondly, the bottom is absolutely flat, there is simply nothing to cling to. This is all due to the fact that the engine is in the back, there is only a radiator in front. From it there are special pipes in the recess. There is nothing else there, the bottom is flat like a boat)) All winter I left on Velcro, and when there was a snowy mess, you could hear the car scratching its belly in the snow, but continues to drive confidently.
There is no point in writing about controllability at all - the mid-engine layout and that says it all. Coupled with this, the 50/50 axle weight distribution allows you to simply screw into turns at incredible speed.
A little more about the service. For the engine, as I said earlier, it is very easy to find spare parts, because this Toyota engine is very common. Suspension, I think, is also not a problem. At least the front levers (complete with a ball and silent block) fit from the Corolla Spasio, Witz and others like them. Oil in the engine needs 4 liters, in a box of 1.9 liters in 5 stupas. box (produced before 08/2002) and 2.1 liters in 6 mortar. But antifreeze will require 8 liters (again, due to the frontal location of the radiator). I don’t know how much brake fluid and fluid in the power steering, I haven’t changed it yet, I’m getting confused closer to summer.
That's actually all the main points of the operation of this unusual car. There will be questions - ask, I will answer with great pleasure!
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I'm talking about the box. How does it differ from tiptronic? According to your description, nothing, everything is like a tiptronic. I just haven't heard about the sequential box before :)
Switcher
Well, let's start with the fact that it's basically not an automatic machine, but a mechanic. That is, there is no D mode as a machine in principle.
If you look under the hood, you can see an ordinary Toyota mechanical box c56 (installed on corollas, pitchforks, pillars, etc.). And in addition to the box, a valve body is connected, which controls the clutch release. Simply put, this is a mechanic, but this very valve body controls the clutch release, and not the driver with the pedal.
And the control itself really resembles an ordinary tiptronic.
PS Added a photo of the gearshift lever, the quality is not very good, but the other is not.
Hi! My daughter bought an MR-SKU, at first everything is fine, then the actuator began to glitch - there is no rear and the speed hangs on the move. I don’t know where to get the electrical circuit, can someone help
Well, let's start with the fact that it's basically not an automatic machine, but a mechanic. That is, there is no D mode as a machine in principle.
If you look under the hood, you can see an ordinary Toyota mechanical box c56 (installed on corollas, pitchforks, pillars, etc.). And in addition to the box, a valve body is connected, which controls the clutch release. Simply put, this is a mechanic, but this very valve body controls the clutch release, and not the driver with the pedal.
And the control itself really resembles an ordinary tiptronic.
PS Added a photo of the gearshift lever, the quality is not very good, but the other is not.
By the way, such a box gives extraordinary agility to the baby.
When I was refilling the engine oil (believe me what a moron I am), I forgot to tighten the cap… and rushed off))).
I was like a burning car ... rushing to the pitstop ... opened the trunk. stuffed the neck with a rag and drove home. one and a half glasses splashed out).
in general, there were many funny situations in operation ... for example, a 4.0 sports car jumped in the ass))) chased)
arturdee
I will refute about water resistance. hits! And how. not that much, but these are the problems of all machines with soft top.
We watched such a car in a friend's service by a large male company, about the impressions another time, but when we decided to open the roof and began to unfasten the fasteners. A friend was ready to kill us on the spot, he finds himself in this car, the roof is leaking like a bucket and they spent the whole day trying to at least somehow adjust it appropriately.
Well, I don’t know about other convertibles, but water definitely doesn’t get into the MRC. Neither in the rain, nor at the sink, when dirt or foam is knocked down with a "pistol". Maybe there was something with the roof tension. There seems to be an adjustment on the locks. Maybe yours is very relaxed, or, on the contrary, was the lid tightened?
I will refute about water resistance. hits! And how. not that much, but these are the problems of all machines with soft top.
"... there is no illumination of the legs and the glove compartment either ..." - I said that there is no illumination in the glove compartment, so it is quite problematic to look for something there at night.
no. everything was OK.
secondly, how is it there is no glove compartment? if I haven't forgotten, there is a mess in the passenger seat. Also on the torpedo there is a compartment for glasses and other little things (this option can be removed and Japanese navigation inserted).
Well, behind the seats there are two roomy chaos of 20 liters each (maybe you already have something there)
execution cannot be pardoned). Eugene). Place revere signs)
Spartan car - what kind of lighting is there). Is that ... under Svetka).
tomorrow I'll go to the Toyota Center I'll look) some say one thing, some another)
Nifiga like that, there is definitely a ph, he went in a new Corolla with a robot.
Switcher
Yes, you don't even think about minced meat when you go. It just becomes useless. In the city, consumption is up to 10 liters (even with periodic recession of the pedal to the floor).
The box here is completely different (I mean the principle of operation). The Corolla has a drive mode, as on a regular machine, here all the switches are handles. There are no blunts at all. The speed changes are practically the same as the mechanics.
And you can see it at a meeting on Wednesdays.
like in the robot Corolla there is no "drive" mode. in fact of the matter. there, too, only use knobs to switch
Yes, you don't even think about minced meat when you go. It just becomes useless. In the city, consumption is up to 10 liters (even with periodic recession of the pedal to the floor).
The box here is completely different (I mean the principle of operation). The Corolla has a drive mode, as on a regular machine, here all the switches are handles. There are no blunts at all. The speed changes are practically the same as the mechanics.
And you can see it at a meeting on Wednesdays.
I wonder ... After Progres, how was it possible to change to a car with much less minced meat?
The second question is how much this beauty eats in the city and on the highway.
Third, what you wrote about the box is called a robotic box on the last Corolla, or just a "robot". There she is very dull). How is it here? In general, it would be interesting to see such a machine live and up close!
Well, first of all, mileage - but this is not a panacea, it all depends on the quality of service. You can just look at the state of the car - how it was watched, etc. Well, of course, there should be no extraneous sounds, clanging, gray or black smoke from the exhaust pipe. In short, like any other engine.
The thing is that the new Toyota engines (in particular the zz series) do not have the same high reliability as the old Toyota engines with a million people. There were cases when even at 70-80 thousand mileage, the engine had to be capitalized. But it seems to me that you just need to closely monitor the engine. I have a mileage of about 60 thousand km and it does not eat oil at all, but someone even at 50 thousand has 1 liter per 1000 km. It's all about proper care - normal oil, gasoline, filters, etc.
Eugene I have a question, I just read about the engine installed on this machine. many write a review that it is unreliable and bad, but no one really writes why. If there are any complaints about the engine, please tell me if it's easy.
In front, where a conventional car has a hood, there is a place for a spare wheel. Includes 15 wheel, first aid kit, fire extinguisher, rope, emergency stop sign, small set of tools. And plus one large glove compartment with two doors behind the seats. Height approx. 40 cm, width approx. 30 cm, full length of the machine.
How is the trunk of this car? I would be grateful for pictures or at least a description)
That's for sure, I've already removed mine)) The manual transmission is already installed, the other day I'm waiting for a new ECU. How everything will work stably I will post a full detailed report with photos. As they say, coming soon ...
How about a box? Here I climbed on the forums, they say that the sequencer is not such a durable box))
Let's just say 80 is far from a sentence. If as a second car - 2 seasons (only if you drive in the summer), you can safely leave. Well, or immediately make the engine capital (about 30-40 thousand with work and parts in Moscow costs).
One for sale in St. Petersburg with a range of 80 ... This is not a sentence?)))
I like it very much, I really want it)))
I think MX5, but I won't really pull it or MR))))
Personally, under me about 30 thousand. In total - under 60. Yes, I would have lived further, nothing would have happened to her. I just decided to change to mechanics. I have already had a sequentalk with a friend of 130 - everything is ok.
It is very, very expensive. It's easier to get a cheaper one, less than 400 with less mileage. For example, mrsclub.ru/forum/viewtopi..da08cf3b32b920913e#unread , or this one - auto.drom.ru/?id=3115995 - it also goes hard top (a separate buy is 50-60 thousand, and then if you find it in RF, Japan, America will not work less than 70).
The main thing is not to look at the year, but at the condition of the car, how they watched it - in such cars it is more important, because the engine can hit 50 knots, or maybe 150 without capital.
And what price does she think? All the same, I think the year is also not unimportant.
And so I really like the restyled one with such headlights ... and they say that now there is no such disease with devouring oil or cheto there)))
Yes, besides, there is 6stopka)
Oh, those transural fantasies)) At the very 2 cars with right-hand drive, the parents Rane Rover and Jaguar with the left. The difference is 0. You get used to it in 10-15 minutes. The difference in the price of m / y with the right and left rudder is 20-40 thousand. It's your decision.
Re-styling is good, but if the difference is 30-40 thousand, it's easier to take pre-styling and buy new optics.
I also heard about the engine. But there are people in the city who are already familiar with the reystaling version of the murka. Oil after 100 thousand. also eats, but most likely the engine they really modified.
For the price - I don't even know, few cars are sold, it is impossible to say that the market is formed and there is a certain price level. Whoever estimates how much, he sells for so much. On a good level, even reystaling can be sold up to 500 thousand. Before reystyling, mags go from 350 to 420 somewhere.
And I just can't stand the right wheel ((((
But on the handle with the right one I definitely can't imagine how to drive))
This is bad, I would like 6 seconds, but to make cramps out of it, there is no desire at all :)
Eh, as if I will not say that, it was not possible to measure with normal instruments. Even RSMkoy did not measure, but somewhere from 7 to 8 seconds. Less is possible only if the car is lightened to the point of impossibility (the passenger seat is thrown out, all the plastic, the conduit, etc.), more means the car is no longer in order.
Hello, tell me, how many seconds do you get a hundred?
just everywhere they say differently, but something tells me that you should believe :)