sort of like a breakdown - logbook Toyota Corolla Runx, 2002
Hello to all!
In general, I don’t understand, but I hope you will give an explanation to this ... I will explain
in writing and then whoever is interested will watch the video and hear everything there.
What is the problem:
1) when switching from 2nd gear to 3rd gear, an unpleasant sound (crunch-crackle) is heard, I don’t know how to explain it, but if you switch when the speed drops to 1000, then it turns on softly!
2) when you stand still and switch from neutral to 3rd gear, the same crunch (see video)
Feelings and sound as if the clutch is not fully squeezed out!
Who will say what it can be and how to treat it?
PS: today I changed the oil in the box as per the manual, the sounds are still the same :(
it may very well be that the synchronization is bad, they can’t cope already at high speeds. how does the box feel at all? try to go down the hill and not slow down, but first turn on the 3rd gear, then the second one, that is, brake with the box ... see how it will behave, will the transmission not fly out. the crunch always?
works like new :)
tim-38
uh stop. so what, that is, if you turn on the third from the cutoff of the second, then everything is quiet?
works like new :)
yeah, there is no crunch, it turns on like clockwork and we go further ...
because I would notice when you stick it with a crunch, something like vibration is transmitted to the gearshift lever and you feel it with your hand
uh stop. so what, that is, if you turn on the third from the cutoff of the second, then everything is quiet?
box braked, everything is fine.
this topic is almost always, but if you wait until the momentum drops, then everything is ok.
my clutch works at the very end, they said the clutch is worn out, maybe because of this? but then again why only 3rd gear?
and when you switch in the cutoff or over 6000 rpm, then everything is fine ...
tomorrow I will try to do it from a big hill as you say.
synchronizers if I change something closer to summer, as I will change the clutch and possibly put LSD
it may very well be that the synchronization is bad, they can’t cope already at high speeds. how does the box feel at all? try to go down the hill and not slow down, but first turn on the 3rd gear, then the second one, that is, brake with the box ... see how it will behave, will the transmission not fly out. the crunch always?
now I took off the spikes and put the summer on, I wanted to be proud lastly before the long winter, and started to drive, then I think that 3 turns on well, began to switch as before 2500 rpm and a third, gently, stopped, 1st gear 2500, 2nd gear 2500, abruptly 3rd gear, everything is ok, I try again and again, everything is fine :)
I don’t know what it was.
NVA
Sounds like the 3rd gear synchronizer is dying.
If the clutch is already old, then you can try to adjust the pedal level higher so that it squeezes more.
Is the clutch hydraulic?
works like new :)
I think there should be nothing but sounds ... if the synchronous dies, then just don't prance (so it's winter). In the spring you will change the clutch, look at the box
I agree ...
PPC, let's see if someone can say something specifically, maybe they have come across this ...
nothing bad will happen if you drive like that?
I just don’t want to do all this now, but by the summer I would have made a capital
The clutch pedal has an adjusting bolt with a locknut ... I think you have the same, but it is unlikely to help much if it's the synchronizer.
yes hydraulics.
this is my first time dealing with a mechanical machine, so I’m not experienced in this matter ...
how to tighten-adjust?
so that the clutch does not work at the end, but as it should, immediately
Sounds like the 3rd gear synchronizer is dying.
If the clutch is already old, then you can try to adjust the pedal level higher so that it squeezes more.
Is the clutch hydraulic?
zizu
The same trouble was on the 160th box - the third gear, the synchro most likely rings, gives the first signs, and on the 52nd, when the ringing also began to die on the fourth, there was such a crunch, in theory, it will travel until the summer, if not particularly to fry, it rang even worse for me, I drove it away for a year, then I decided to remove and repair, maybe try to change the oil, I’m not sure myself, but some say that it largely depends on the oil how the gears will turn on.
works like new :)
The same trouble was on the 160th box - the third gear, the synchro most likely rings, gives the first signs, and on the 52nd, when the ringing also began to die on the fourth, there was such a crunch, in theory, it will travel until the summer, if not particularly to fry, it rang even worse for me, I drove it away for a year, then I decided to remove and repair, maybe try to change the oil, I’m not sure myself, but some say that it largely depends on the oil how the gears will turn on.
no, I just got back on a summer resume and drove the evening from the heart, to know everything fell into place :)
eugen047
The synchronizer is dying, right now I have the same crap with the 2nd. With peregazovkoy try to switch, I'm a little better with her right now, but still need to make a box for the season.
works like new :)
The synchronizer is dying, right now I have the same crap with the 2nd. With peregazovkoy try to switch, I'm a little better with her right now, but still need to make a box for the season.
ahahah
I noticed this too in my
pancake, by the way, the speed of the vrold became more or less, but as soon as I turn on the dimensions, it immediately rises to 1.200 = (((
EXCBoy
ahh first time I hear you dude xDDD
… not squeezed out, but squeezed out! xD smiled
with a sickle in the balls, what can I say you are a stern Yenisei guy xD
now, on business , it’s
most likely a synchra, although the mb is tired of the clutch, I just haven’t seen it on 2zz yet? on 3zz self-regulating, you can't go wrong there
I also have a slightly strange box, sometimes they turn on when it’s cold, it’s easy when it’s fully warmed up, they don’t stick in traffic jams from 2 to 1, if it just stops almost completely, sometimes I also hear when switching from 2 to 3 a strange sound like yours, coupled with I’m alive, I’m sinning on syncs, but in general the sound is not the most ardent, so I think with PERIODIC anneals it will live until the summer, if you are a little afraid, then keep a little time when switching from 2 to 3, the current is not very long, otherwise you will lose the dynamics, it will become a little better =)
works like new :)
corollaz
something that does not turn on from 2 to 1 is protection)) from fools! it turns on mine at less than 10 when you go!
works like new :)
corollaz
something that does not turn on from 2 to 1 is protection)) from fools! it turns on mine at less than 10 when you go!
well, where is it =)
EXCBoy
ahh first time I hear you dude xDDD
… not squeezed out, but squeezed out! xD smiled
with a sickle in the balls, what can I say you are a stern Yenisei guy xD
now, on business , it’s
most likely a synchra, although the mb is tired of the clutch, I just haven’t seen it on 2zz yet? on 3zz self-regulating, you can't go wrong there
I also have a slightly strange box, sometimes they turn on when it’s cold, it’s easy when it’s fully warmed up, they don’t stick in traffic jams from 2 to 1, if it just stops almost completely, sometimes I also hear when switching from 2 to 3 a strange sound like yours, coupled with I’m alive, I’m sinning on syncs, but in general the sound is not the most ardent, so I think with PERIODIC anneals it will live until the summer, if you are a little afraid, then keep a little time when switching from 2 to 3, the current is not very long, otherwise you will lose the dynamics, it will become a little better =)
something that does not turn on from 2 to 1 is protection)) from fools! it turns on mine at less than 10 when you go!
EXCBoy
ahh first time I hear you dude xDDD
… not squeezed out, but squeezed out! xD smiled
with a sickle in the balls, what can I say you are a stern Yenisei guy xD
now, on business , it’s
most likely a synchra, although the mb is tired of the clutch, I just haven’t seen it on 2zz yet? on 3zz self-regulating, you can't go wrong there
I also have a slightly strange box, sometimes they turn on when it’s cold, it’s easy when it’s fully warmed up, they don’t stick in traffic jams from 2 to 1, if it just stops almost completely, sometimes I also hear when switching from 2 to 3 a strange sound like yours, coupled with I’m alive, I’m sinning on syncs, but in general the sound is not the most ardent, so I think with PERIODIC anneals it will live until the summer, if you are a little afraid, then keep a little time when switching from 2 to 3, the current is not very long, otherwise you will lose the dynamics, it will become a little better =)
From 2nd to 1st, if it does not turn on, this is normal, everyone has it.
well, I heard =)
yes, anneal some, it’s winter ... but our winter is not the same as yours ... so you can’t anneal it
ahh first time I hear you dude xDDD
… not squeezed out, but squeezed out! xD smiled
with a sickle in the balls, what can I say you are a stern Yenisei guy xD
now, on business , it’s
most likely a synchra, although the mb is tired of the clutch, I just haven’t seen it on 2zz yet? on 3zz self-regulating, you can't go wrong there
I also have a slightly strange box, sometimes they turn on when it’s cold, it’s easy when it’s fully warmed up, they don’t stick in traffic jams from 2 to 1, if it just stops almost completely, sometimes I also hear when switching from 2 to 3 a strange sound like yours, coupled with I’m alive, I’m sinning on syncs, but in general the sound is not the most ardent, so I think with PERIODIC anneals it will live until the summer, if you are a little afraid, then keep a little time when switching from 2 to 3, the current is not very long, otherwise you will lose the dynamics, it will become a little better =)
the crunch of the third synchronizer, the box needs to be repaired, but if this crunch doesn’t bother you, then you don’t worry, but in order to avoid the crunch, you just need to turn on the 3rd gear through a double squeeze and smoothly without sudden movements
BET! 115 thousand yen costs ... not just like that =) In short, it's a SIN not to put
with c-one it will be better to blow a hundred hundred!
it is lighter and the setting moment will be faster, which means switching faster
I don’t rummage around the boxes =) I’ll look at the synchros,
I would also like to put ceramics in your place ... I can tell you who has the ceramics =) you can find out how it is.
Clutch - basket + disc + clutch release about 5 original. Reinforced organics are like eksedi stage 1 ... but xs where to get it! flywheel fit
yeah, Seryoga, please look ...
synchros and what else might be needed for this.
Damn, I want ceramics =)
look how much the clutch costs ...
is it simple or cut?
you still need a clutch release, but will the flywheel fit with it?
yakov
dog synchros are expensive ... I think if you change it, then you probably need everything right away
all synchros?
aka-mazai
depending on how you plan to use =) ceramics are tight, but people drive ... but consider the efficiency will increase
dog synchros are expensive ... I think if you change it, then you probably need everything right away
switching, the moment of setting is stronger ...
I'm shorter x / s, let's see, maybe I'll order a simple one and put the original one on
well guys, well, why will it grow then? ceramics is needed when organics can no longer cope - i.e. slips. And if not, then why change something?
I’m telling you, I have an original clutch from a 1.3-liter engine, which doesn’t even give out 100 forces. and nothing.
and leave the ceramics to the monsters, on atmospheric engines it’s not really needed at all
yakov
yes, I’ll last the summer and there will be repairs, I’ll change the clutch or ceramics or just some good thread ...
otherwise they tell me something like fuck you this ceramics
depending on how you plan to use =) ceramics are tight, but people drive ... but consider the efficiency will increase
yes, I’ll last the summer and there will be repairs, I’ll change the clutch or ceramics or just some good thread ...
otherwise they tell me something like fuck you this ceramics
In general, I like this box only when you drive briskly, but in traffic jams it infuriates me, gears, coupling :( there is discomfort.
And sometimes it’s normal, I don’t understand what it depends on.
And the sounds are also all sorts of incomprehensible ones :) I especially don’t like squeaks ...
Damn Th for crap at all, hell knows!
All these talobaytsy when they filmed the block, they did something wrong! (((
I drive on everyone, I often miss 3, and sometimes I just wait for a moment and turn it on.
By the way, when there is no crunch in the livts
You don't need ceramics at all!
I, too, sometimes have similar sounds when you switch from 2 to 3) I don’t pay much attention to this, but it’s hard for you, use 3 less and drive until the summer!
1-2-4-5-6 so drive,
I generally drive differently 1-3 (but even when it crunches from 1-3 too) -5-6, 1-2-4-5-6, in short I drive like horrible), but lately I try to include all 6 in order!
well, damn it, I heard this on the synchronizer campaign on the Subarovsky box ... damn it ... it's a shame
p.sy exhaust sound freaky! straight aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I’ll change it in the spring,
I want to do something, just have to remove the box and vsroem.
though I have never taken them apart ... well, not what, we'll figure it out
By the way, I noticed such crap
when you drive at speed, if you pull the gearshift lever a little slightly towards neutral so that it rests, as it were, and release the gas, it starts like braking by the engine and some unpleasant vibrations are given into the handle = (I press the gas and immediately disappears =)
mixa181283
but I would advise you to start by changing the basket and the clutch disc. It is quite possible that the basket is dying. and that's all for it. and then if everything doesn’t disappear, then get to the synchronizers. And about ceramics, you don’t need it. believe.
works like new :)
Well, when I also stood between this choice, oh, how terrible I wanted to try ceramics :)) so I understand you :) I remember I almost took it. but people with experience od said :)
I honestly want to try ...
let's see, maybe I'll take organic matter and that's enough ... because I don't often go to the ring
just when you get into the city, you wake up cursing ceramics. this time! . and understand ceramics are made for heavy loads, not everyday driving. it must be under constant load, and the disk is not erased from this. For her, this is her normal state. for everyday driving and you won’t have enough of it for a long time. there were many examples when people took off ceramics and checked, and just fucked when a person has a car for every day with ceramics, the ceramic disk is more worn out than the one whose car was worn around the ring and etc. take stronger organics, it will be enough for you, you don’t have the power to be afraid of something, organics will be enough. and as for the flywheel, it is unlikely that it will fit if it is from ceramics. Well, it's up to you to decide :)
you just understand that you don’t want to shoot 2 times :(
with ceramics, the dynamics will increase, whatever one may say, there is also a flywheel with one, I just don’t know if it will fit on a simple clutch?
but it’s not convenient to ride, I agree ...
but I would advise you to start by changing the basket and the clutch disc. It is quite possible that the basket is dying. and that's all for it. and then if everything doesn’t disappear, then get to the synchronizers. And about ceramics, you don’t need it. believe.
no, I just put on a summer resume and tumbled a little, then I tried to stick everything clearly at low speeds, both at large and at small