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Fan_Tiesto 11.11.21 11:45 pm

Monster Invasion (DOOM 3)

Why couldn't the monsters (or Bertruger) immediately take advantage of the ship on which the soldier arrived at the beginning of the game to get to the ground and take it over? Why wait for the fleet summoned by the soldier, what prevented them?
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Apokalipsis113 11.11.21

The portals that open to hell are local, you can't just get to Earth. So ships are needed in order to get to Earth, well, and there they are already organizing calls. After all, portals to hell are opened by technological means, and not just magic - not everything is so simple.

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JetRanger 11.11.21

GG did not arrive by ship, but in a small shuttle. Several imps can fit into such a "boat" - not enough for the Hellish Host.

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Fan_Tiesto 11.11.21

JetRanger,
I think it would be better to let in instead of useless imps a few demons or whatever - those who summons monsters and launch a wave of fire - they would spawn everyone there and while there was a massacre - after a while the rest would come from Mars together with Bertgruger - after which our planet would come to an end))))

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JetRanger 11.11.21

Fan_Tiesto
those who summon monsters and fire a wave of
Archvile.

A few pieces are still not enough. People would have successfully killed them, then there would be no one to summon small monsters. And on warships there is not only more space, but also a powerful weapon on board, from which, for sure, directly from orbit, it would be possible to gouge important objects on the surface of the Earth.

In principle, you can think of many reasons here - the screenwriter for Doom 3 is still a professional writer, and would not allow obvious holes in the plot. I read his two books on the plot of the game (the third one has not yet come out, it seems) - it seemed boring, but at the same time worked out and coherently, this cannot be taken away.

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Fan_Tiesto 11.11.21

JetRanger is
also an option ... but what do monsters need? do they need people to eat them, or what is their purpose of invading the earth?

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JetRanger 11.11.21

Fan_Tiesto
They rather obey Betruger, and what he dug into humanity - the imp will take it apart. )) The same about the Martians - what did the hellish creatures want from them? Here you can already see the "gluing" between the incompatible - science fiction and the supernatural. And this gluing is rather rough, but here we are already dealing with the legacy of the first Doom, where we did not bother with the plot at all. Matthew Costello just gave the original Doom fantasy a more realistic look (as much as possible) and got the Doom 3 storyline.

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Fan_Tiesto 11.11.21

JetRanger
is this a form of genocide - destroying other civilizations? this is a hellish dimension, and its goal is to stupidly carry destruction, some psychopathic sadistic race of the hellish dimension ... and Bertgruger, when he entered the portal, the campaign, under the influence of the hellish dimension, lost his mind and was enslaved by the forces of this hell and went against humanity) perhaps concluded some a deal that would have weight in the society of hellish creatures, like a certain baron or prince, and when the soldier interrupted everyone, then in hell they decided to punish Bertruger for what he said so. "did not fulfill the contract" - and turned a demon-dragon)

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Fan_Tiesto 11.11.21

JetRanger
but about the Martians - apparently they wanted the same ... it's like in the film Through the Horizon - they also tried to get to the proximal through the portal, and they themselves got into the hellish dimension, enslaved the crew, here the events are intertwined)

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Fan_Tiesto 11.11.21

JetRanger
and here's another interesting thing - when a soldier arrived on Mars, he was required to find a scientist - it's strange that with such a number of guards, they began to wait until the soldiers arrived from the ground, and did not send one of their own, the same Sergeant Kelly could calmly send any security guard, in the same place just go through 2 locks and that's it)

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JetRanger 11.11.21

Fan_Tiesto
and Bertgruger, when he entered the portal, the campaign, under the influence of the hellish dimension, lost his mind and was enslaved by the forces of this hell and went against humanity.
Judging by that disc with the audiologist, it was so.

some psychopathic sadistic race
Also an option. ))
Although if you dig so deep, the question arises why the structure of these creatures is so earthly? Imps crawl along the walls just like tree frogs, Cherubims are half-infants, half-insects, Trites and Ticks are spiders made from the bones of the fingers of the hand, Revenant is, again, a human skeleton with implanted (who ???) mechanical elements ... As I say - the exuberant imagination of the authors of the first Doom. ))

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JetRanger 11.11.21

it is strange that with such a number of guards, they began to wait until the soldiers arrived from the ground, and did not send someone from their own.
No, they didn’t necessarily wait - they could have missed the narrow-eyed just by the time the Marine arrived at the headquarters. So GG, it turns out, "turned up well", and it became easier for Sergeant Kelly to send him without distracting the guards from the shift.

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Fan_Tiesto 11.11.21

JetRanger
is just strange the very concept of "disappeared scientist" - well, where could he disappear on Mars? where everything is limited to one base, you can't dump into another country or into the jungle)

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Fan_Tiesto 11.11.21

JetRanger
but what about anthropomorphism is definitely noticed - most monsters are similar to people or terrestrial animals - the anthropomorphic principle in all its glory, it is in the order of things for a person to see aliens similar to themselves) it is interesting, but cherubs. are these insect-like - mb crossed with human children? And where did so many babies come from at the base, were they cloned there?

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JetRanger 11.11.21

Fan_Tiesto
well, where could he disappear on Mars?
Duc, the base is big. I wandered into another sector without warning anyone - they already lost you.

but cherubim. are these insect-like - mb crossed with human children? And where did so many babies come from at the base, were they cloned there?
They were cloned by the imagination of the artist-designer. )

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Fan_Tiesto 11.11.21

JetRanger have
you noticed that the Alpha and Delta complexes are very different? as if they were made by different development teams? in the Delta, everything is much chtoli, more detailed and looks decent)

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Fan_Tiesto 11.11.21

JetRanger
and the darkest level - the monorail overpass and the refinery - just darkness, horror)

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Fan_Tiesto 11.11.21

JetRanger
and I'm still wondering - what's in the red and yellow barrels, what are they so hollow?

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JetRanger 11.11.21

Fan_Tiesto have
you noticed that the Alpha and Delta complexes are very different? as if they were made by different development teams? in the Delta everything is much chtoli, more detailed and looks decent)
Yes, I would not say that it’s just like different teams. As for me, the detailing is everywhere on the level. There are, of course, differences in design, but they come from the different purpose of these two base complexes. In the end, the rest of the iconic locations also look different, according to their tasks. This is a common rule for level design. Agree, it would be strange to come across a clean tidy office somewhere in the bowels of EnPro, or a reactor among the ruins of an archaeological site.

and the darkest level is the monorail overpass and the refinery - just darkness, horror)
Hmm, Hell seems to me the darkest.

and I'm still wondering - what's in the red and yellow barrels, what are they so hollow?
It doesn't matter. It's just that any shooter should have Explosive Barrels conveniently placed for detonation. ))

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A.Soldier of Light 11.11.21

JetRanger
Right, Doom without exploding barrels is not Doom =]