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pilich 19.11.21 01:26 am

Game Discussion (Arcania: Gothic 4)

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1gastat1 19.11.21

Max111, Only Piranhas can do Gothic.

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Max111 19.11.21

1gastat1

agree)

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xAndrewx 19.11.21

What do you mean ... That is something foreign reviews are full of phrases about the stupidity and inhibition of mobs during a battle, even at the most difficult level. And everything is simple, turn on the "Roll-roll" technique to click and use it alternately with the attack. Terrific truth?
Don't read all sorts of nonsense. On the most difficult point, the mages do not blunt, and I knocked two goblins off the third time, because they quickly delivered strong attacks and put blocks.

Let’s do what we’ll do, I’m looking at the rating of experts and I understand that the most important obscenities occupy quite high positions, and they only rose thanks to their overwhelming fanaticism in relation to piranhas and posts like "+ hundredthmilliens". Maybe leave the topic? You won't play early.

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Just like old times 19.11.21

piranhas made, not piranhas, what's the difference? I think it's worth at least a try, who knows, it might drag on)

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reahiv 19.11.21

And my opinion is that Gothic 4 will be a worthy continuation of the series. An excellent game, I really liked the demo, otherwise Gothic 3 got tired of going through several times. I must pay tribute to Spellbound Games that, having released before that, let's say not masterpieces, they took up the development of Gothic 4, and let's be more indulgent like that, they study and try, believe the following parts of Gothic, will be much better.
And the fact that there are differences between the games is good, somewhere better, somewhere worse, it should be so.
In general, the players, that is, we got drunk, learned only to find fault with the games. Look at the Russian games, that's where the real shame is. It seems to me that even if you give them 6 million euros, namely, a column went to Gothic 4, they will make such a UG that it will be impossible to play at all. IMHO.)

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reahiv 19.11.21

They decided to finish off such a good game with the fourth installment.


And here I do not agree at all dear. If you have a new hairdresser, the professionalism is the same as the previous one. This does not mean that he has a worse shot, does it? In another way, it is sogdasen, not familiar to you, since you are accustomed to the old master, but not worse just in a new way. So give Spellbound Games a little time and see how Gothic 5.6 .... is much better and eventually becomes your favorite game.

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1gastat1 19.11.21

reahiv, well, the spells have the same professionalism as the Piranhas (irony if someone does not understand), but why did they not do normal games before arcania?

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Stay Avay 4000 19.11.21

"From me personally, it is written there below and with that it is difficult to argue"
weak (most likely) combat, which I myself have repeatedly noted here - this is, in fact, one of two or three already obvious shortcomings ... the rest (for sure) is snot , drooling and fanboystvo ((

"do not stoop to insults"
do not have to pretend to be insulted and injured (I'm too lazy to try, wasting time, someone to humiliate and insult ... and work Elind - really piranefilskaya Kaka (

"this is the answer , then you are mistaken "
yes, this is not even an answer, this is a banter ... you can answer intelligible claims ... but to this -" there will be no magical effect on the weather, there will be no belts "- can you answer?

" Nonsense, because it is already known what no "
I said that I am citing the entire post of a person ... by the way, the work itself is old ... then half of the "nebudets" remained violent fantasies and speculations that the comrade, who canceled this case, noted

"they were not even in the Gothic universe"
"Spells" made MIR, and not copy-paste from old "Gothic" and (even more so) under-the-gothic3 ... copy-paste will be made by "Piranhas" in "Risen 2"

"So robots, pistols, a balloon - this is really your nonsense"
and this is "your":
Magic scabbard for weapons and magic armor as in Oblivion are not planned.
Plants and leaves will not move on contact with the hero, as they did in Crysis.


"You try to say something in defense"
and what is "try" here? I'll tell you ... this is work with a fundamentally different game mechanics, but in the old setting ... that's all

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VastarLord 19.11.21

except for Desperados, they did not release anything sensible, and then this is a completely different genre

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Nehallem 19.11.21

and this is "your":
Magic scabbard for weapons and magic armor as in Oblivion are not planned.
Plants and leaves will not move on contact with the hero, as they did in Crysis.
current you modestly lowered this nonsense (although the intensity of insanity in the "claims" it reflects amazingly

This is a blatant lie, because I did NOT say this .. And YOU just said) We carefully read everything that was above)) This is nonsense from a fan site by someone unknown written. And maybe even a squeeze of the early interviews with developers, and here you have decided to shove it to the pile .. I told you not to go too))

else is not "yet exactly" and "already precisely" because I hope you know that full the Russian version is available on the incentive and people are already playing)) Just from the European release on the 9th)

"there will be no magical effect on the weather, there will be no belts" - can you answer?
I would say you need to answer) First of all, do not be false .. and do not heap up nonsense that I did not say, but this is specifically about belts .. This is nonsense from the same list as the weed in krayzis .. This is a list YOU brought .. I think most of it is complete nonsense. This, so to speak, is such a favorite technique among the developers - to say something that, in principle, should not be in the game by pressing some insignificant things between the lines, such as the absence of a fist fight. And you modestly raised this nonsense and passed it off as mine)) Again, a brazen substitution of concepts) It's not good, it's not good) As for the weather, it was one of the main features of Arkania promised, we read it carefully! there is a fan fantasy. Only facts) It was just then that the feature was cut, like many other things.

"Spells" did the WORLD perfectly))) in a biological sense, they coped and fell under this definition, the land of derkv, rivers, houses and little people are present in it, only making this very WORLD, they forgot about the main thing - to make it alive and interesting, filled , but it is empty and boring, a bellhop and there is nothing special to do in it .. I congratulate them on such an interactive version of "Google earth" in the world of Gothic =))

I will say ... this is work with a fundamentally different game mechanics, but in the old setting ..
Yes, the "new-old" game mechanics Hack & Slash RPG ala "Diablo in 3D" in the Gothic setting with a Fable flavor) Amazing mix for the continuation of the Gothic series, especially consideringthat the developers and the publisher themselves profusely exploit this brand in the name of the product)))) The guys are lying)

And here's a bunch of facts))
- For many, the game is much worse than the demo.
- Gold is practically not needed, everything can be found.
- The world, with the exception of quest characters, is practically empty.
- We mainly collect things, but we can only produce very little.
- The merchants have mostly only drinks and bandages.
- There is a problem with missing textures.
- The player constantly follows a linear story and cannot run for hours through the open world, like in Gothic.
- The game is more Action than RPG.
- Animals don't attack characters, characters attack them.

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BioCrySPB 19.11.21

And here's a bunch of facts))
- For many, the game is much worse than the demo.
- The world, with the exception of quest characters, is practically empty.
- The player constantly follows a linear story and cannot run for hours through the open world, like in Gothic.
- Animals don't attack characters, characters attack them.
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After reading this, sorry, this Gothic just wants to vomit. As I wrote 2 years ago - nothing good will come of this game, the developer is a moron, the publisher - I hope, soon, a bankrupt ram. Whoever buys a face is l0x, no offense, but this is not a game and it is not clear what to pay money for.

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Stay Avay 4000 19.11.21

"This is a blatant lie, because I DIDN'T say this" they
pulled a piece from here and from here, and now you are clapping your eyes ... your "non-fudge" is written by Elind with "Worldofgotik" ... I posted a full copy-paste, you are cut off ... if you already had the audacity and rudeness to dump someone else's writings under your own name, have a drop of conscience, do not engage in "curly" copy-paste
and yes, if you did not take it from the original source - your troubles

"the rest is not" for sure ", but" for sure ""
I I will wait a while with conclusions until a competent review of the person who is cutting into the subject ... or, sobsno, until I try out the full version myself ... the whining of fanboys ("this is not a goot ... yyy ... yyy") does not bother me

"As for the weather - it was one of the main features of Arkania promised "
the weather was considered as one of the possible features ... did not work out ... and? .. for an RPG this is not a fundamental aspect

"he's empty and boring, a bellboy and there is nothing special to do in it" is the
game completed?

"Game mechanics Hack & Slash RPG ala" Diablo in 3D ""
and "Gothic" the first people with experience are confidently attributed to the genre of "action with pumping" ... played this, by the way? there was a lot of "non-slasher", starting from the third chapter of the commercials?

"For many, the game is going much worse than the demo"
and for many it is going great

"Gold is practically not needed, everything can be found"
in solid RPGshechki all the most delicious things are exclusively "resourceful" ... a fat plus, if so

"World,


"The player is constantly following a linear story and cannot run for hours in the open world, like in Gothic"
and what will prevent the player from running around the world? ))) Well, such oololschina went, at least stop, at least fall)))

"Animals do not attack characters, but characters on them"
pruflink?

"The game is more Action than RPG"
is not a fact, but fanboy snot (

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Argentin 19.11.21

Brijeg
You see, you don't understand the whole point, all these little things make the game more interesting, more realistic, even the same clouds or a change of day, and you see, you just need to knock on the enemy, and who x ... and you are comparing with Gothic 2, 3, that there was no such thing and it shouldn't be in this one, so you don't think with your head that the release of the new part is not only in the graphics ... it's already 2010, the game should be more realistic.

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Sergey Travkin 19.11.21

Made a game for the Americans, as promised. An American cannot find a way in the open world, otherwise, while he is looking, the gas from the cola will go away, the hamburger will become stale.

In the meantime, we are waiting for the real Gothic, that is, Risen 2.

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Torber 19.11.21

yeah, wait for your rizen for more than a year, but I'm waiting for Two worlds 2, for it will be a real arcadia killer

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1gastat1 19.11.21

Torber, arcania and no need to kill, she's already dead

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Isse 19.11.21

lol)))))) What is nonsense and not a game>? I thought maybe they would do G2) it's only in dreams)

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TheNik 19.11.21

Is the game similar to Gothic 3?
I just liked it for some reason, I didn't have a chance to play in 1 and the second, in short, it looks like a new four on 3?

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Stay Avay 4000 19.11.21

"you see, you don't understand the whole point, all these little things make the game more interesting"
yeah, and the more little things, the more lively the game ... while the means, time, forces are not limitless ... choosing between global aspects and little things, a competent team makes the only right decision ... others whine that they would have another year to develop, otherwise they did not have time to fix the bugs, the quests with dialogues were screwed on according to the residual principle, etc.

"who x ... and you are comparing with Gothic 2, 3, that there was no such thing and there should not be"
anyone x1era, read carefully ... they compare fanboys and piranhafiles - they say, in "Gothic" it was, and in "Arkash" not ... however, it was either not at all as cool as it seemed, or not everywhere ... and it was not at all a fact that is needed now ...
once again - the developers of "Arkania" had their own idea of ​​what was needed, what was not ... of the originally intended features, several were not implemented, but this is a normal workflow ... in general, people did what they planned. .. and no one knows what was more necessary for this game, and what is more important than its creators ... we will already evaluate the final product


Veider16, and I advise a little more strongly not to threaten users - it is too messy (to
answer and litter in the subject is not worth it, you can pour out a stream of hatred in Notepad or, at worst, in a personal

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Nehallem 19.11.21

until I try out the full version myself ... the whining of fanboys ("this is not a goot ... yyy ... woo") does not bother me ahahah ...
that means before you blather anything here, take it and play the full version) and since you don’t know anything and at the same time dare to argue, then this is complete stupidity) And about whining .. oh, how are you dissembling) then you’re all here so stubbornly answering everyone, defending this gothic-like vyser) So it also touches ) and not whining, but concrete facts that are confirmed by the FULL version of the game, and people who have already played this confirm)

I will wait a little with conclusions until a competent review of the person who is cutting into the subject .. There
have been reviews for a long time .. And the game experts are surely whipping more of yours) And the above quotes given by me in quotation marks are just taken from such foreign reviews.

And I did not appropriate it for myself) For starters, we learn to read sooo carefully .. And where the original source comes from, it does not matter, this is a completely stupid nagging ... Its truthfulness does NOT change from the correctness or incorrectness of the source)

I posted a full copy-paste, you are cut off ..
well, you need to have a brain, as it were, and not blindly copy everything)))))) the

weather was considered as one of the possible features ... it did not work out ... and? .. for RPGs this is not a fundamental aspect, the
fact remains .. Yeah .. also for an RPG, which Arkania is with a sooo big stretch, apparently everything that, in principle, is considered the norm in an RPG, is not a matter of principle .. is the

game passed?
no need to carry nonsense about the full passage, etc. To make sure that the world of Arkania is empty and boring, there is nothing special to do in it, just go through a couple of large locations. And this is confirmed by people who have already played the full version)

and people with experience confidently attribute "Gothic" to the genre of "action with pumping".
Another nonsense, but already on the verge of insanity) Gothic is a CRPG. I hope we know what it is) What can we say, but such a genre as "action with pumping" does not exist at all)) If you really want to say about Action-RPG, then Gothic has never been an action game with RPG elements, and even more so with the main focus on the action component as happened with Arkania.
But there is a nuance. this does NOT mean there was no action in the original Gothic. It was of course, but the emphasis was on the role-playing component, as in all normal CRPGs. The role-playing component in Arkania is simply! Miserable !, so much so that there is not only talk about the continuation of Gothic, but even as a normal full-fledged RPG Arkasha cannot be perceived.
Oh, yes) You can underline the word "experience" with at least ten lines and put it in a red frame)) This (you) people won't get more experience))

"For many, the game is going much worse than the demo"
and for many it is going great
Well, well .. Play for a start))) And then read the forums .. So for general development .. Oh yes .. And of course the off statement that on the 12th the developers will release a patch that improves optimization, also apparently passed your ears ))) And here is a quote for those who have it "just great":

"Hello, friends!
All these problems with the performance of the game are due to the fact that the full version has not yet been fully optimized.
Since we originally planned the release for On October 12th, we didn’t have time to finish the optimization on time. The fact is that we launched activation a few days earlier just so that you could immediately play the freshly purchased product.
Please wait until Tuesday if you have any problems. then there is a performance problem, we will fix the problem for you."

And these are again facts, not childish babble)

"Gold is practically not needed, everything can be found"
in solid pots, all the tastiest things are exclusively "resourceful" ..
So we catch the difference .. Again, we are talking about attentiveness .. Since you have with this problem - read more slowly)) In all normal "rpgeshechkah" speech about exceptional things, that's right, and not about the complete hopelessness of gold as such. You dare?))

"The world, with the exception of quest characters, is practically empty"
who said? piranhafiles?
And this is said by adequate people who played the full version of the game. You don't belong to them, right)))
And that you stuck to piranhafils ..


Well - fall)) The level structure of the world, that's what. And it's a fact - you are playing the full version. This time.

"Animals don't attack characters, but characters attack them"
pruflink?
ahaha .. Unfortunately, I can't take a wire from my computer and stick it into your brain and "link proof" so to speak, but here the advice is simple. You are playing the full version. These are two.

"The game is more Action than RPG"
this is not a fact, but fanboy snot (
This is a fact. The recipe? I already said. But so be it, I repeat, for especially gifted ones)) Play the full version. These are three.

at the same time, the means, time, efforts are not limitless ... choosing between global aspects and trifles, a competent team makes the only right decision ..
Painful delirium. These are your problems if you do not have time to play or manage it competently, but the game should not suffer from this. Nobody forces you to clean all the corners, go through all the quests around the clock. Play casually and complete the story in 15-20 hours. This is again your personal problem. The developers themselves had enough time, despite the fact that the engine was already there. All normal RPGs allow casuals and those who don't want to bother too much to go through the toy pretty quickly! BUT! nevertheless leave everyone lying the opportunity for hardcore passage and deep play. Arkania does not give such a choice. She has one option - castrated-casual. And this team is "competent" only in your fantasies)) The second-rate Spellbound development team, who made clones of different games at one time, who were given this time to try themselves in the field of serious RPGs, experimented so to speak and made a complete vyser. They apparently don't know what an RPG is in general. In fact, it’s a hack-work of pure water .. At the same time, there is also an impudent speculation in the name .. Other good companies do not whine, but work, and maybe with a small delay, but they produce an excellent RPG, which is important. For example, DragonAge is the last one. And by the way, Fallout was great too! game. And interestingly, both projects have visited consoles and yet have not slipped into miserable simplifications of the gameplay. So you just need to be able to! make. but they work and maybe with a small delay, but they release an excellent and, which is important, RPGs. For example, DragonAge is the last one. And by the way, Fallout was great too! game. And interestingly, both projects have visited consoles and yet have not slipped into miserable simplifications of the gameplay. So you just need to be able to! make. but they work and maybe with a small delay, but they release an excellent and, which is important, RPGs. For example, DragonAge is the last one. And by the way, Fallout was great too! game. And interestingly, both projects have visited consoles and yet have not slipped into miserable simplifications of the gameplay. So you just need to be able to! make.