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sxDiablo2 19.11.21 01:23 pm

Skull Prescription Question (Diablo 2)

Hello!
Rereading the topic "Money" on cl, the question arose whether I understand the situation with the generation of affixes correctly.
I will describe my question with a specific example.
Let's say I want to use the recipe 6 perfect skulls + 1 rare item -> 1 low level rare item to get a shield with the "+2 to Paladin Skill Levels" affix (Priest's). I'm primarily interested in the Bone Shield and Grim Shield bases.
The formula that determines the level of an item after the next brewing: ilvl = int (0.4 * clvl) + int (0.4 * ilvl)
The level of the affix "+2 Pal" on shields is 65 (affix_level = 65)

But alvl is not identical to ilvl. The relationship between these parameters is given by the following formula (taken from here):
If (mlvl> 0)
(1) alvl = max (qlvl, ilvl) + mlvl
Else if (max (ilvl, qlvl) <99 - [qlvl / 2])
(2) alvl = max (ilvl, qlvl) - [qlvl / 2]
Else
(3) alvl = 2 * max (ilvl, qlvl) - 99
For each item, its own alvl is calculated, and all affixes with affix_level <= alvl can appear on this item.

mlvl (magic level) = 0 in this case, and qlvl depends on the underlying thing. For Bone Shield qlvl = 19, for Grim Shield qlvl = 48
Let's say a level 90 character (clvl = 90) brews a rare Bone Shield dropped from Hell Diablo (ilvl = 90).
It turns out a shield with ilvl = int (0.4 * 90) + int (0.4 * 90) = 72.
Let's look at the formulas for alvl:
mlvl = 0, max (72, 19) = 72, 99 - [19/2] = 90, 72 <90 => we use the formula (2)
alvl = max (ilvl, qlvl) - [qlvl / 2] = 72 - 9 = 63
That is, "+2 Pal" (affix_level = 65) cannot drop even after the first brew.
For Grim Shield (qlvl = 48), things are even worse:
mlvl = 0, max (72, 48) = 72, 99 - [48/2] = 75, 72 <75 => alvl = 72 - [48/2] = 72 - 24 = 48 - similarly not enough for "+2 Pal"

If you try different clvl and qlvl, you can draw the following conclusions:
- It is impossible to cook a shield with "+2 Pal" from Exceptional shields with this recipe.
- For Normal shields, so that the "+2 Pal" affix can drop on a welded shield when brewing a rare shield dropped from Diablo (Hell), you need to do this with a character of a sufficiently high level, depending on the base of the shield:
Buckler - 73, Small Shield - 78, Large Shield - 85, Kite Shield - 90, Spiked Shield - 85, Bone Shield - 95 (Tower Shield - impossible).

Actually a question for knowledgeable people: are my calculations and conclusions correct, or is all this complete nonsense, and I don't understand anything?
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QLinkee 19.11.21

Are correct.
Obsession leads people to shards!

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hangover 19.11.21

sxDiablo2
Yes, everything seems to be correct. In general, I have never counted shields for 2 fell: D therefore I did not find this opportunity. For 30/20 allress fhr shields, everything is fine. At a certain level, you can cook until blue in the face. In order not to bother with qlvl on your own, it is convenient to use a calculator to estimate the required ilvl YOINK!

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Obsessed 19.11.21

sxDiablo2, well, after such mastodons, science no longer pulls something to double-check. ; D apparently, yes, I breed people. :-) although, now I myself do not remember why I underlined the word "shields", but wrote about the scepters and 30/20/20 (Get this way "grim shield 30/20/20" and the scepter "2 pal ++" - really.). on the alvl scepter for priest's - only 50.

In any case, the goal was one - to open people's eyes to the recipe, to try to introduce at least some kind of currency, except SoJ. cooking gear in no way replaces or surpasses catching it from bosses (the same).

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sxDiablo2 19.11.21

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure I understood the mechanics correctly before dumping my meager stock of skulls.
(A cunning plan was born to collect Bone Shields from Diablo, wait until someone reaches level 95 and ask him to spin them once :). Although, probably, it will be easier and faster to find what you need yourself.)

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Obsessed 19.11.21

sxDiablo2, yes. amuli - in gamble, shields - with Dee (or also in gamble), sticks fell - at Droga. but long runs on Droga are an activity for people prone to autism.

did anybody
say people rushing to 92; D

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Obsessed 19.11.21

sxDiablo2, oyo. : Since I just noticed ..: Well, what can I say .. I'm still alone in the girls .. :-)
How did it happen ?

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sxDiablo2 19.11.21

Obsessed
said people rushing to 92; D
Not anymore :). I tried for a long time, there were many unsuccessful attempts, but today I finally managed to complete this damn quest!

PS: ahead of my post :)
how did it happen?
It happens that I can say that you can check it 10 times, but it is worth relaxing for a second - and that's it. Even someone could not avoid it

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Obsessed 19.11.21

sxDiablo2, and I refreshed the page - lo and behold, your exp has grown. wrote a post. and then I look ...
did it work in the open?

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sxDiablo2 19.11.21

Obsessed, no, private, but there were a lot of people there. In open-s, I just follow this more closely.

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Obsessed 19.11.21

sxDiablo2, nice private. :-) Well, if you're going to stir up another lord, it's a good time to think about your nickname. ;-) and if you download this, then you don't have to worry about any quests there. :-)

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sxDiablo2 19.11.21

Obsessed
Yes, I think I will download a new one (since I can't take the top, I will FILL the ladder :)) a
good moment to think about the nickname. ;-)
I agree, I am thinking about it now. And then the first three somehow do not shine with special originality and variety :).

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Obsessed 19.11.21

sxDiablo2, you cho, of_Terror I already took over again! ; D is
such a nick-to-one-way. : D

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bd_sm [TDPG] 19.11.21

Obsessed
Ofteror is Ji Di: S

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anvill.avd 19.11.21

Obsessed
Baron of_Terror?

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Obsessed 19.11.21

bd_sm [TDPG], ned, that's ya, MVUKHAKHA!

anvill.avd, yes it is -one-ending. :-)

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Irvalande 19.11.21

On the other hand, if the shield requirements are reduced to:
Prismatic |
bi-stacked res |
Deflecting |
17% fhr

then it can be very useful.

Of the above affixes, Prismatics have the highest level (alvl = 39), which can be obtained at item level 48 (for a bone shield).

Scheme:
1) a level 44 character does the Charsi quest (clvl + 4 = 48)
If the shield is bullshit
2) a level 73 character cooks a shield with skulls
73 * 0.4 + 48 * 0.4 = 29 + 19 = 48



Although in theory it is more profitable just boil the rings.

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Obsessed 19.11.21

Irvalande, yes :-) but in general, motivation is needed, social. players, that is. then everything will cook. because the point is to brag about it, I guess.

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Irvalande 19.11.21

Obsessed
By the way, everything is perfect for rings in general:
- a rare ring with Andy Knightmar (ilvl = 37)
- cook with a level
10 character 10 * 0.4 + 37 * 0.4 = 4 + 14 = 18
And then the magic begins:
- character 28 level brews the ring until the end of the skull
28 * 0.4 + 18 * 0.4 = 11 + 7 = 18

18 item level gives access to affixes for resists + 21-30 well and fcr.

The chance according to the calculator for at least 2 max cuts + fcr = 1 in 512.)

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Obsessed 19.11.21

Irvalande, this is all gorgeous, of course, but a pretty ring, this is when ~ 40 hp, ~ 15 str / dex, two cuts of ~ 30 (sorchik / burbarian) and, if it's really cool, then fcr (boor). and hp with strength will be a higher level, probably.

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Irvalande 19.11.21

Obsessed
alvl - 40 hp (of the Mammoth) = 68, this is generally the highest affix on the ring for a classic)

And the chance to catch such a ring is
~ 40 hp, ~ 15 str / dex, two cuts of ~ 30, fcr

1: 3610868


Better tit in hands!))



By the way, ilvl quest rings

Deckard
NM 28
Hell 49

Ormus
Normal 21
NM 35
Hell 65