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Fan_Tiesto 21.11.21 11:47 pm

Is English primitive?

You can often see on the internet that they write about English that it is primitive! This is how to understand and what is it called that?
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GTAman 21.11.21

JetRanger
And what's the point of inventing an extra language if the existing ones are in bulk? Choose the most common, and you will have international communication.
First, natural languages ​​were formed spontaneously, there is much that is illogical and redundant in them. Secondly, the use of the language of a country as an international language puts peoples in an unequal position.

And then, Esperanto is easy only for Europeans, roughly speaking.
You cannot create a language that is equally easy for everyone, since unrelated languages ​​are too different to come up with something in between. But Esperanto should still be easier for an Asian than any natural European language, because its rules are short and logical, there are no exceptions.

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JetRanger 21.11.21

Veenine
Firstly, natural languages ​​were formed spontaneously, there is a lot of illogical and redundant in them.
Well, there is nothing you can do about it. )

Secondly, the use of the language of a country as an international one puts peoples in an unequal position.
And here I do not agree. So what if it’s easier for English speakers to get away with not knowing a foreign language? We would still have to master International, but whether it’s Esperanto or English, it’s not important anymore. Of course, Esperanto is easier to learn, but it is suitable purely in order to convey information. While knowing a real second language, you kill at least two birds with one stone - and the originals of works in it are available, and you can communicate with those who speak it. I think that the artificiality of Esperanto, with all its consequences, did not allow it to take root.

PS: Or maybe the majority just didn't like its sound, who knows ...

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GTAman 21.11.21

JetRanger
So what if the English-speaking ignorance of a foreign language is easier to get away with?
The peoples, whose language becomes dominant, gain an advantage in the rest, because the language is a tool that is used in all spheres.

Of course, Esperanto is easier to learn, but it is suitable purely in order to convey information.
What else can a language serve? :) Everything said and written is information.

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7Rain7 21.11.21

Protestant Knight
and in English everything should be strictly in a certain order.
As I understand it, you are talking about the British version now? Amer has long been covering up as they want. It became a dull set of words. Happy New by the way.

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Vaipen 21.11.21

In general, it is necessary to make the Mensen language international. There, words are mixed from all languages, so no one will be offended that his language is considered second-rate. True, there is only a "coward" from the Russian, but it is good that they did not forget about our great and mighty.

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JetRanger 21.11.21

Veenine
Peoples, whose language becomes dominant, gain an advantage in other respects.
On the contrary: The language of the nation, who is most successful at the global level, becomes dominant.

Everything said and written is information.
There is also an aesthetic side - art, especially literature and poetry. And, most importantly, the artificial language will not suddenly become "alive", and without this it will not become beautiful either. Only real languages ​​are alive, native to a real people with their own history and culture.

Personally, I would not be at all against a common mega-simple artificial language, but ... Whoever needs to communicate with someone outside his country already knows the language of this country or English as international. It turns out that there is no good ground for the mass adoption of Esperanto.

7Rain7
Amer has long been covering up as they want. A stupid set of words has become.
Everyone distorts, - in British one Cockney dialect is worth something. And even a spoken, inaccurate language does not exist with a dull typing of words, no one has canceled grammar.

By the way, you can hardly understand how illiterate Russians and amers communicate in comments and chats - our "Albany" one hardly understands, but it is quite possible to understand the English of Internet hangouts, if there are not ebonics (slang of black Americans). So we, IMHO, distort our language much more.

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CEMENTATOR 21.11.21

If Russia had 900 military bases around the world, then the Papuans from the distant USA and England would also sit on forums and talk about the primitiveness of the Russian language.

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SteveG8 21.11.21

It is primitive for those whose vocabulary expansion stopped at Hello and How are you?