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Lord stronghold 11.12.21 01:19 am

Is there an opposition to the modern government in the Russian Federation?

Looking at the current "opposition" one gets the impression that either the idiots paid for by the authorities who create (shitty) the effect of pluralism of opinions (as well as party polarism, if we take into account Comrade Mironov, Pope Ziu, etc.), or those , which in the 90s were at the trough, but which later pushed, and now they crow in this way (for example, here: http://vkontakte.ru/video3326279_24310415?add=1)

what do you think about the current opposition, and is there an opposition that could compete with the mighty of this world? (kakbe question of the subject)
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Dark_Sun 11.12.21

I do not know about competitiveness .. Within the framework of a crappy law .. But the real opposition consists of parties in the Russian Federation.
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Assembly_Russian_Federation

There, by the way, are represented both liberal and nationalist, and communist forces, and many others. If they can scrape off the party that will be admitted to the elections ... nothing will happen, United Russia will win anyway))
But later it will be fraught with riots ..

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stalker7162534 11.12.21

the petrel croaked proudly "Let the storm blow harder"

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Dark_Sun 11.12.21

Not really .. If the National Assembly was elected by the people and was a legitimate parliament .. Russia would have a real democratic parliament in the best traditions of a bourgeois state. There is real ideological diversity there. In reality, each party represents the interests of a certain social group, as it should be, in theory, for a party. And not like now .. Who can tell me whose interests are represented by the United Russia, the Liberal Democratic Party, the SR? What is the ideology of these parties?
In the same place, everything is clearly laid out on the shelves - liberals representing the interests of small and medium-sized businesses, the National Bolsheviks and other communists - it is clear whose interests they represent, the centrists-social reformists .. - this is also kind of clear - the ideology of Swedish socialism - they seem to be the SR, of course, but what can you do if the SRs could only scratch their tongue before the elections, and of course our beloved nationalists.

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Lord stronghold 11.12.21

Who will tell me whose interests are represented by the United Russia, the Liberal Democratic Party, the SR?

EP - the interests of the bourgeoisie;
LDPR and SR - interests of United Russia

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Dark_Sun 11.12.21

EP - the interests of the bourgeoisie Means the
big bourgeoisie?

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Lord stronghold 11.12.21

and not only. And the small one will not remain on the sidelines either. Remember the so-called. "strengthening the middle class".

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Dark_Sun 11.12.21

This is a liberal sense .. In my opinion, in fact, the EP and the liberals disagree on one thing - the former do not provide political freedom .. so the latter squeal from the Gusinsky radio stations of all kinds of Echo of Moscow about the infringement of freedom of thought and political rights by the EER. And so - it means both those and those parties of obvious liberal reaction and conservation.

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Russssslan [NKVD] 11.12.21

The Liberal Democratic Party and the SR rather do not support the United Russia Party, but create the illusion that a different regime / opinion is a fig.

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stalker7162534 11.12.21

Russssslan [NKVD], rightly noted, is a Tavar Chekist.

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Lord stronghold 11.12.21

2Russssslan [NKVD]

And it is in this that they support the EP) I meant it.

2SovNarkom

In my opinion, in fact, United Russia and the liberals differ on one thing - the former do not provide political freedom ..

When a hanger is deprived of the feeding trough, he begins to pretend to be a liberal) (supposedly leftist) I think the example of Nemtsov clearly illustrates this situation.

And so - it means both those and those parties of obvious liberal reaction and conservation.

Not even liberal .... "liberal" it is .... a screen)

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EROY 11.12.21

What is opposition?

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stalker7162534 11.12.21

+1

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Komisar 11.12.21

I can say one thing .. THE PRESENCE IN THE STATE OF A REALLY ACTING OPPOSITION DOESN'T STILL MEAN THAT THIS STATE WILL BE PROSPEROUS.
No need to go far, Ukraine .. We have opposition, more squabbles and nothing more.

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Breakwater 11.12.21

Of course, today there is no more or less convincing opposition in the Russian Federation at all. The party in power is, IMHO, purely conservatives. It's not bad. But it's not bad only when liberals play in tandem with them. In this regard, I have high hopes for the newly formed three-headed snake. I am deeply convinced that political growth is possible only in conditions of strong opposition to the current government. And where there is political growth, there will be growth of the state as a whole. Unfortunately, the Liberal Democratic Party is just puppets, the SR is a branch of the United Russia Party, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation? ... If they discarded the old principles, which would no longer be rolled out, and renamed themselves Social Democrats, they would have had a chance. And so, alas ... Only the new Democratic Party remains. Wait and see. I hope she does not die in the very first elections.

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A.Soldier of Light 11.12.21

THE PRESENCE IN THE STATE OF A REALLY ACTING OPPOSITION DOESN'T STATE THAT THIS STATE WILL BE PROSPEROUS
And exactly the opposite. If there is no opposition, it is not a fact that the state will not be prosperous. Opposition is needed where there is no perfect unity of the people. So that people of different points of view see in one or several parties those people whom they are ready to support.
In Russia there is an opposition - the new party "Right Cause", which includes people who are not very attractive to me in their views, as far as I can judge.

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there is no more or less convincing opposition in the Russian Federation.
I am inclined to believe that in the conditions of our time and state of affairs, even for the better.

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stalker7162534 11.12.21

I am inclined to believe that this is even for the better in the conditions of our time and state of affairs.
When before the elections there is a situation that the country has no one to choose from - this is the Arctic fox, as they say, they have reached the handle.

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Arkh 19 rus 11.12.21

Nanotoly Chubais, Leonid Gozman - opposition to the Kremlin? Did I miss something? The party was created as a right-wing pro-Kremlin, after the "apple", the Union of Right Forces and other "civil forces" were washed down, so that the West did not arise about the lack of democracy in this country.
Communist Party? ... If the old principles
were dropped. If we look at the voting results by name, we will be surprised to find that according to many "anti-popular" laws, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation votes in the same way as everyone else - with both hands "for". Smoke it for now, if it's not enough for someone, I'll look for more recent examples.

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Breakwater 11.12.21

I am inclined to believe that this is even for the better in the conditions of our time and state of affairs.
Maybe so. Just do not delay it. And everything goes exactly to this.


And further. The opposition should not be a priori opposition. It should engage in criticism of the current government, not with the aim of confrontation in itself, but with the aim of jointly working out the best solutions and ways leading to an increase in the well-being of all segments of the population. Generally speaking, on a number of issues, the opinion of the opposition and the current government may coincide. And then there may be no criticism. It's just that both of them should act for the good of the people and not for the good of themselves and their sponsors.


When before the elections there is a situation that the country has no one to choose from - this is the Arctic fox, as they say, they have reached the handle.
By the way, here he is again right. The same American Democrats nominate several candidates and the AMU people choose who is closer to them from the ranks of the party that is most likely to win the next elections. What prevented EP from doing the same? No decent people? Rave. The last election is a conservative overkill. And this trend is not to my liking.

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Dark_Sun 11.12.21

The same American Democrats nominate several candidates and the AMU people choose who is closer to them from the ranks of the party that is most likely to win the next elections.
What nonsense ..
The people choose who better pulls their lips into the video camera .. whose daughter is not a prostitute, and the son is not a homosexual ..
Choose from two parties that do not differ de facto ideologically ...
This is not an opposition. The same thing that right now, here we will make an election of two candidates - Putin and Medved .. What's this? Putin will be nominated by the United Russia Party, and Medved by the Liberal Democratic Party (let's say) .. Putin will shout - here Medved crap in the Kremlin during the presidency ... And he also aggravated the crisis .. Medved shrugged off ... 6 years later he says - Matvienko sucked Putin off in the Kremlin, and he muddied the war in Tmutarakan .. All - they chose Medved ..
OPPOSITION AND DEMOCRACY !! Hurray, Subjects of His Greatness!

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Dairel 11.12.21

but who cares how and whom they choose .. the main thing is that they live well, and the leaders elected by the people do something for this very people .. as in other democratic states ..