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ducks4yquack 16.11.19 10:13 pm

percent and Mat. fee

so I think to update the PC, wanted to put percents i7 7700 and saw that there are 7700 and 7700К, what is the difference, Ah Yes, yet can not choose the norms of the motherboard can you recommend for this CPU?
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darkpromo 16.11.19

ducks4yquack
K is overclocked via the multiplier, it is necessary to take mother with the Z chipset, for the regular version, you can take the B or H chipset

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Beirut 16.11.19

ducks4yquack
if stupid games that don't rush to throw the money till the announcement of the new consoles and their hardware take the computer or do MB console will be more profitable.
Pro To version, if the drive can not then it makes no sense to take the mother if the budget any, the choice of do depends on the warranty longer is better. Any consultant in the store you will pick there choice especially and is not present.

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Dogmit 16.11.19

Beirut
It makes no sense to wait for something constantly and the console has nothing to do with it. You just have to look at the games that are coming out for the last time, watch tests and to take the Prots under these games with the margin of power. Landmark now i5 or i7 with 6 cores. It is best for the coming years.

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Luka_gg 16.11.19

ducks4yquack
In any case, the acquisition 7700 with k to set the priority for several reasons:
1) Processors with k have large frequency, at least, and Busta. Even on the market, B/H, which acceleration is not supported, you can set the frequency of turbo boost on a regular basis. 7700 (3,60 GHz / 4,20 GHz) vs 7700k (GHz 4,20 / 4,50 GHz).
3) Easier to sell, because on such processors higher demand, especially important today, when he basically outdated.
4) Boost the same is not the best solution, because it focuses on the indicators that are sewn into the CPU - temperature, power and current. So 8700k Bastida only to 4300 on all cores. The dispersal also allowed to 5000 for all, without restrictions on consumption, which raised the performance per core of about 10%. Manual overclocking everything.
The problem purchase is that now for 7700 / 7700k, the shortage of Intel, you can ask neopravdano a lot of money. I believe that the price is not more than 17 thousand for the 7700k and not more than 15 in the 7700 will be more than acceptable.
However, 20,000 is 8700k, and for Ryzen 7 2700 - 17500, and for Ryzen 5 2600 - 11300.
To assemble, in principle, can be cheaper without relying on outdated hardware, which today, in principle, not relevant.
I recommend to reconsider the purchase, in favor of a new socket 1151 v2 or AM4.
To purchase, in any case - 7700k, if you actively play the game and are interested in overclocking and a motherboard Z chipset 270, or Z170 (see used. If new, you may need proshivka BIOS, not a critical event).
In 1151, in principle, already especially there is nothing to choose. If you find the MSI or ASUS should be a good choice. Personally in my shop I have not found on the Z chipset. Examples: ASUS Prime Z270-A was a good choice.

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bloomm 16.11.19

Beirut wrote:
if you do not know how to drive then it makes no sense to take
Th there is something to be able ? okay before more phoenixes and other terrible BIOSes that newcomers didn't even go to, and then th, user-friendly interface with a mouse, 2 buttons pressed, and in a way, ohlazhdenku picked test drove, I forgot.

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bloomm 16.11.19

ducks4yquack
Ryzen better watch 2700 or 1700.

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Apti 16.11.19

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VOVAN wrote WOLF it is better to look already to the new actual platform 1151 v2. For example i5 8600 (he, by the way, in power, sometimes even bypasses 7700 and cheaper) or better i7 8700, because the difference in price c platform for 7700 small, but the urgency and prospect for the future more.

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Beirut 16.11.19

Dogma wrote:
It makes no sense to wait for something constantly and the console has nothing to do with it. You just have to look at the games that are coming out for the last time, watch tests and to take the Prots under these games with the margin of power. Landmark now i5 or i7 with 6 cores. It is best for the coming years.
look objectively, just give me the toys that came out on PC and are not a port from the console
then I can help you find the formula of the ruble on the fun.
Moreover looking at 2018 where the entire top are generally console exclusive or watching for announcements of future games
I do not see the point in buying a PC. So the wait is always meaningful.
My advice is simple if there is 5 games for which you're willing to spend, then buy but just look and not profitable if you buy them on the console.

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Beirut 16.11.19

bloomm wrote:
Th there is something to be able ? okay before more phoenixes and other terrible BIOSes that newcomers didn't even go to, and then th, user-friendly interface with a mouse, 2 buttons pressed, and in a way, ohlazhdenku picked test drove, I forgot.
well, probably need to think about cooling, about the choice of memory that would be even more profit there.
many make the mistake of setting the frequency and voltage on postoyanku what burns stone
(of course it will not burn, but + 15 g of he is added)
I think he turbobooster car enough for the eyes

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vitalik76 16.11.19

ducks4yquack wrote:
I wanted to put percents i7 7700
I do not advise now to buy a new iron. If you are now taking a new percent from Intel, is not less than the eighth generation. Since this second to the seventh generation percent at the Intel was developing a transfusion from a sieve, like +1% here, 1 percent there. And just when AMD with their rizen began to really overtake Intel itched. And it happened just in the eighth generation. Take percents i7 8700. I like this. If overclocking to do do not plan to take the index To it is not necessary. The same i7 8700 now overclocking is not needed because there are no such games that would make it work 100%. I am in the BIOS even turbo boost him off and still the load is far from 100%. The only time - should consider in advance cooling, as percent, despite the declared TDP of 65W, very hot (especially if you turn on turbo boost). He certainly maximum temperature of 100 degrees, but still cooler need to buy a good, not boxed.