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Dazdraperma 31.01.22 01:40 pm

reforms

A long-forgotten word of the 90s era. Then everyone naively believed that we had a big country, but everything was arranged so inexpediently by the Bolsheviks that everything was wasted in vain. And that they did not have a relationship with us precisely because of this. And as soon as we organize everything correctly, they will start right away.
But over time, the understanding came that they have no relationship with us, no matter how we reform. And it got to the point that, it turns out, they have no relationship with us because of our territory. That, they say, is too big for us. And when it becomes even smaller, then they will start. Or rather, continue again. Will start having them again. For 10-20 years, commercials, until another stage of cuts. With the same reinforced concrete lack of relations precisely for this reason - territory. Reforms will be left to themselves. And in this regard, I will slightly paraphrase the title of the topic: Reform of the country's defense capability. How prepared are we to repel official and unofficial aggression?
That is, if we need reforms, then only in order to prevent the collapse of the country. As in the days of perestroika, they were insufficient to keep the USSR from collapsing. But not in order to have a relationship with us from this. They will not have them. Since the goal of the West is to seize the territory, and not in the well-being of people, animals and plants in this territory. It is only for ourselves, as it were, should become an internal priority. But external is, of course, defense. With a follow-up, of course.
You can call it a voluntary extension. Moving the border. As you wish. It's not that important. What matters is whether we are ready for it? Release all prisoners of war, for example, after voluntary entry. Otherwise, it cannot be called voluntary. And this is what reforms are for. In the meantime, it’s only a matter of breaking firewood if it comes out the way it is now. While we are not ready for this, not only in others, even in ourselves. With pensioners the same, for example. What do people in Crimea talk about directly on camera and say that pensions are too small, to the question of what surprised you the most here, so to speak, what did you, as it were, not expect from this entry?
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Sweety_Mustard 31.01.22

Reform (obsolete) - usually used as a curse,

everything was wasted in vain,
what exactly was lost? Skyscrapers with swimming pools on the roofs were not built on permafrost?

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Dazdraperma 31.01.22

Sweety_Mustard
Sweety_Mustard wrote:
what exactly was missing?
Here in my apartment all the walls are pot-bellied. Since the students built on working off. Therefore, it disappeared and everything was at dawn.
Sweety_Mustard wrote:
Skyscrapers with swimming pools on the roofs were not built on permafrost?
What kind of twisting is that?
Irrational use of everything. Efficiency 30%, the remaining 70% went to waste. Whatever the task, then it is necessary to go to some kind of record when it is completed. With a constant "for a while" some kind of competition. Overload, skew, one continuous anguish in everything. Like "scalded with boiling water", as they say, everyone did everything. Otherwise, "the train has left" everything will be so arranged. Even the symbol "Forward Time" was in that era, if I may say so.

Why precisely time? That's because. Now, no one looks at the time. Mundfish is a prime example of this. That's the difference between the epochs, in a nutshell. They also make a game about the USSR, they call it!
There were even only two parties: the CPSU and the BP. That is one in essence. BP is now the Liberal Democratic Party - a party of non-partisans, but there, in the State Duma, now there are so many of them. At least there is some semblance of democracy with United Russia, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, Just Russia and the like.

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Sweety_Mustard 07.02.22

Dazdraperma wrote: The
irrational use of everything
is well xs - they built it well on permafrost - the population density is 1 body per kilometer, but the power lines are stretched, there was communication (now these are rusted skeletons of stations) there were even some roads (I saw somehow crumpled Lancer in Magadan - meat with hair all over the cabin - the couple decided to ride along the highway with a breeze, apparently, the road surface was very good). Agriculture - again on the permafrost - had its own chickens, milk, well, until capitalism came and it turned out that it was much more profitable to import from the other side of the globe. Competitions are a replacement for the usual competition - but without eating each other, it's great.

As for "going to waste" - do you think the crisis of overproduction is better? By the way, separate collection of waste can also be attributed to rational environmental management, right? And he was - glass, scrap metal, waste paper, kitchen waste - often (not everywhere) everything was collected and processed, and not rolled into another landfill, as it is now.

There was production, but now - with this "import substitution" such an op - they don't know whether to bring potatoes from Egypt, or processors from Taiwan; D
Spoiler And note - what I saw - already bore traces of destruction from perestroika and " period of capital accumulation", before that there was beauty in general

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Dazdraperma 07.02.22

Sweety_Mustard
You don’t seem to understand that the goal was not the welfare of people, the goal was to equalize all people - the so-called equalization, which, according to the Bolsheviks, will lead everyone to prosperity. And somewhere it led, as, for example, in the North, where eggs now cost 1000 rubles for a dozen, and then they cost exactly the same as everywhere else in the whole country. But somewhere: the same concrete fence, the same houses - all this led to cloning; somewhere it reached the point of absurdity with regards to the winter uniform in the North and in the South. That is, the whole problem was that the Bolsheviks took the same leveling template, and applied it wherever possible. And it turned out that everything was wasted in vain. Except in cases where it worked, of course. As, for example, with the same chicken eggs in the North. There are a lot of templates for them, and for each case it’s different, and not one for everything.
Everything else is complete nonsense. What kind of chickens are on the permafrost? The prices were the same. And everything was imported. Power lines, too, roads like everywhere else. But only to equalize. It just looked like a blessing. Since here this leveling pattern worked.
Separate waste collection. Well, what are you laughing at? There weren't even trash bags. Cellophane in a bucket is like putting a constitution instead of a newspaper now: it was sacred. Then only a newspaper, and everything was thrown out of the bucket like that. Waste paper, perhaps, a glass container collection point, it was.

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absurdus elementum 07.02.22

Dazdraperma wrote:
That is, if we need reforms, then only in order to prevent the collapse of the country.
If it does not fall apart, then nothing needs to be done. At worst, support it with a log so that it does not squint from the wind.

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Dazdraperma 07.02.22

absurdus elementum
That is, if we need reforms, it is only to prevent the collapse of the country under external influence. Which can be from within, but will be external in its essence.
Corrected.

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Erontlop 07.02.22

absurdus elementum yell
XD

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Sweety_Mustard 07.02.22

Dazdraperma wrote:
Everything else you have is complete nonsense. What kind of chickens are on the permafrost? The prices were the same. And everything was imported. Power lines, too, roads like everywhere else. But only to equalize. It just looked like a blessing. Since here this leveling pattern worked.
Separate waste collection. Well why laugh
Why the hell was it imported when there was a local poultry farm in the same Magadan, up to 99 years old, milk was also local - everything that remained from the Soviets until it was abolished - local kefir was quoted higher than Moscow vimbildan, but was cheaper. Separate waste collection - what's funny about it? It’s much funnier when the delay is buried next to construction debris - what did you write about “went to waste” there?) The garbage business is not just very profitable, so there’s nothing funny about it, even such a small contribution is useful.

You didn't like the competition. Now these competitions look like this - 2 applicants for quotas for catching fish, one another burns a warehouse and oops - all quotas are given to him, free competition in its purest form :D

In general, what you wrote smells strongly of piss, which we used to urinate in our ears at school in the 90s - about "a private trader will come and do everything," about an extensive economy in the union, and so on. You can take away the post-war period, 20 years - until the new generation of hard workers grew up, remove the perestroika period - and see what the commies with their "low" efficiency managed to build. And then compare with the 30-year rule of democracy.

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hello 07.02.22

Sweety_Mustard wrote:
...and see what the commies with their "low" efficiency have managed to build. And then compare with the 30-year rule of democracy
democracy? is it with a living king? heh, heh ...
by the way, in terms of democracy and the results of its construction, you can also look at the UK, the USA or the same Czech Republic

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Sweety_Mustard 07.02.22

hello
Well, then China can be remembered. Why look at other countries when everything is clear on the example of one. And what about the Czechs, what about the Balts - they lived well even with the commies - it is strange that the equalization did not really interfere with this.

Well, the tsar and the tsar - in 96 we even had democratic elections, who is now to be blamed for that choice; C The problem here is rather a stubborn unwillingness to completely switch to the market with a convertible currency - and not throw 200 lam bucks a day to support the ever-falling pants .

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Denis Kyokushin 07.02.22

hello
hello wrote:
democracy? is it with a living king? heh, heh .. It
’s good and convenient for deputies: they get their loot from 450 thousand, and life is beautiful. What else do you need? They don’t answer for anything, but there is parliamentary immunity. .For the sake of this, they planted a king.

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Dazdraperma 07.02.22

Sweety_Mustard
Sweety_Mustard wrote: Why the
hell was it imported when there was a local poultry farm in the same Magadan, up to 99 years old, milk was also local - everything that remained from the Soviets until it was abolished - local kefir was quoted higher than Moscow's vimbildan, but was cheaper.
Well, thanks for clarifying. How was I to know what you had in Magadan there? This is called localization of production. But even then, the production itself is unprofitable. What would be the point of the fact that it is localized, if the costs outweigh the returns? Only as an option to reduce the cost of its price compared to delivery from the South, it was, for all the same leveling! Localization does not cancel the goal - leveling, for the sake of which all this was done ... Just to find fault with something.
Let's just say that the Americans will never localize anything when production is unprofitable. And this leveling made him unprofitable! Since, with localization, the price of a dozen eggs in the North will be 300 rubles versus 1000 rubles when delivered from the South, but by no means the same throughout the Union at 100 rubles. This is utopian communist nonsense, on which the USSR got burned. With these prices cast into the product: an expander - that when you shake your hand with it, you feel the ribbed surface of the price of 2p. 30kop; in the same aluminum meat grinder with a price cast in an aluminum case; into the washing machine on the back metal wall (the price would have been knocked out in a centrifuge), into the plastic cover of the TV case. This is all good, but obviously unprofitable. It's unrealistic, that's impossible. And this was supposed to lead, according to the Bolsheviks, Fortunately? What is happiness here? What is the point of a manufacturer for the whole country to work at a loss? Let's salt the sea, shall we?
Sweety_Mustard wrote:
You can take away the post-war period, 20 years - until the new generation of hard workers grew up, remove the perestroika period - and see what the commies with their "low" efficiency managed to build. And then compare with the 30-year rule of democracy.
They built a lot of things with low efficiency, a hell of a lot of unprofitable things. Now many times less, and that's good. At least fewer resources have been transferred in vain to this.
Sweety_Mustard wrote:
You didn't like the competition. Now these competitions look like this - 2 applicants for quotas for catching fish, one another burns a warehouse and oops - all quotas are given to him, free competition in its purest form :D
This is not a competition, this is the establishment of certain standards for the performance of work. And if you didn’t meet the deadline, then you can call the person so that he doesn’t come for the order until you do it; but you can’t call the Sun so that it doesn’t rise until you finish with the woman there?

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requiemmm 07.02.22

I think everyone has already understood that for businessmen the ideal of profitability is to steal, sell for a penny and drink them away. Everything else - low efficiency, losses, backwardness and did not fit into the market at all. And we see what it led to. Fools are unaware that in addition to profitability, there is also the stability of the system as a whole. It is cost-effective to import everything from over the hill, ruining your production and allowing the fields to become forests, but one day, at the go-ahead from over the hill, all this will be taken away. At one point, even pieces of iron bought and installed everywhere will turn into a pumpkin, because a kill code will come to them. And the famine begins. As in a blockade, when others cut off pieces of meat from a still alive but fallen passerby.
How long will the city last without food supplies? Until people start eating each other? A couple of months. And the village was ruined, there is simply no food here for the city. Remember the artificial salt crisis? When speculators did not bring salt and it cost a hundred rubles per kilogram? And if you repeat this trick with everything at once? Spring. Do you want a kilogram of semolina for a couple of thousand rubles? Yes, it’s easy in general, and it’s at first, then it will be more expensive. This search for profitability of yours has led to the fact that we are all just prisoners, completely dependent on the desire of the left heel of the world administration. If they sell gruel - well, they won't sell it - your problems. If in the 98th someone else was interrupted from the garden, then among the current generation it is not customary to have and be able to do something. Minimalism, both in property and in the head.

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hello 07.02.22

requiemmm wrote:
This search for profitability of yours has left us all just cons totally dependent on the will of the left heel of the world administration.
and therefore it is necessary, with a stern scowl, to take off your shoe and knock it on the podium?

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Sweety_Mustard 07.02.22

Dazdraperma wrote:
What's the point of being localized if the cost is greater than the return?
watch the series (not fiction - something like a reality show with a former top jeer host, you know him) Clarkson Farm - you will be surprised that in Britain, beloved by all of us, agriculture lives on subsidies. There, people managed to screw up the truth and subsidies and the loot allocated by the Amazon; D How can food be unprofitable ?!
As for building a dofig unprofitable - you are already trolling me, right? ) 8 out of 10 nuclear power plants were built, so now Rosstat declares advanced indicators of nuclear energy production as the success of the tsar; DD Every month, or even more often, they turn off my electricity - substations built by commies cannot withstand the influx of people, and new ones are waiting to be built by a private trader.

I didn’t understand anything about the competition at all ;C You call the customer, and he will say you went to @#! with such terms and will find a new contractor. Especially with government orders, this is all the time.

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Nevoeiro 07.02.22

Dazdraperma
Dude, whose bot are you?
And then look Deniska was released from the bath and ops a new account appeared on January 16th.
Although what you have done is not very similar to Deniska's thoughts. Rather, comrade hello.
Spoiler

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Danielarda 07.02.22

Nevoeiro
He's a swalker bot.

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Nevoeiro 07.02.22

danielarda
Which figure is this? stalker7162534

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Danielarda 07.02.22

Nevoeiro
Yes.

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Denis Kyokushin 07.02.22

Nevoeiro
Are you following me or what? How is your health? to the doctors in the cold? And in the queues are people with a temperature. How do you like the mandatory vaccination of oncology patients after chemo?