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Ctrl. Alt. Delete. 13.09.19 02:03 am

New RPG vs. old

Just, please, no need to shout the New there кучи111 GAF or old because they are old. And now and then come and appear great games. We assume that the old RPG is from the very first RPG to 2002 and new 2003 and up to this moment. His opinion is SURE to ARGUMENTIRUYTE and not to arrange holivar.
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DanikW 13.09.19

Morrowind;Gothic;Fable;Mass Effect=)

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Biznes-Ork 13.09.19

My flawed brain tells me that the advantages of ME - the setting, the plot, characters, universe
Recently completed Bulletstorm - it lacks only the universe, the rest of the story and setting seemed stronger massefect, the characters are alive, plus, in the end what is planned-no drama, a happy ending is missing. What have I forgotten? Oh yeah, it's a meat shooter.

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Nedra Chili 13.09.19

Old probably.. Personal IMHO, the plot, dialogue, and character relationships were fully revealed in the games of BIS, a reference open-world and true (alas, not without flaws) level: skill role system made the Gazebo in Morrowind and Dagger. Now somehow the genre is no key games, which should be equal to others.

z.s. why do all the bars from me? Kintz, and second-rate

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Galaxy 13.09.19

Hard to say for sure, but I think it's still an old, very much I sunk games Studio, black isle, such as the Fallout series, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape Torment, now this is almost not do, although there are some new games that I like, but still black isle was lcsa Studio of all times and peoples, too bad it fell apart.

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A.Soldier of Light 13.09.19

propilion
why do all the bars from me? Kintz, and second-rate
+1000 I also not clear. The cinematography is not more important than gameplay.

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Nedra Chili 13.09.19

A. Soldier of Light
By the way I don't understand much in the subject.. the Last type battle with Saren, additional rollers, the pathos of which is a fabulous scale - the height of misery. So funny and dramatic it all, and even beaten. Take this seriously are only those who are either a little watching movies or a little reading.

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Demaskinas 13.09.19

Stevie more rules Zen Niu

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__hv__ 13.09.19

I do not care, the idea of an RPG with a lot of numbers pumping is not too much, more appreciate the setting plot and study the universe. in fact, that in the old that the new is still play a role, so the dispute is meaningless. also the idea of the game plays an important role. for example some cult and just a great game was not Fallout to play it is not particularly drawn to the retrofuturism heart is not the same thing zastelennye fantasy with a set of elves, orcs.

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Corrosion 13.09.19

I prefer the old one.
Before there was an open world, system upgrades, and freedom of choice. Nebylo corridors and heaps of cut-scenes. Now to look at ME or the TAO, or the Arcane corridors even in open spaces. There is nothing that you need to accumulate some money on that super weapon or pump up the skill for some things. Does not cause the collection of any super mega raznyh belongings.
Impressions from the comparison with the Sacred, Gothic 1-2, Morrowind, the Diablo, etc. Do not understand how these IU and TAO are RPGs.

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Reverrius 13.09.19

to Corrosion
Play RPG classics like Baldur's Gate and Planescape: Torment. They corridor like DA:O. what's More DA:O is a more simple version of Baldur's Gate. Open world is not a sign of a RPG. It can be in any genre.

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Galaxy 13.09.19

Well, the fact that modern games are less open world and more bellboy, this is partly to blame modern graphics, because the graph better, the less fancy locations and smaller game world itself. Navorochenny chart in focus is already underway on the script, drew the mega beautiful part of the locality and trying to cram as much action, because the scope of modern games is not what it was in the old, otherwise the game would be insane weighed and cost.

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Nedra Chili 13.09.19

Galaxy
There is a nuance that Night Reverrius mentioned. Before the corridor was an RPG without an open world. Just before the game regardless of the genre put their hearts and now Finance.

MAE is a typical example of vbuhivaya Finance, because the game is rather soulless. I personally go back to that world do not want to - there is simply nothing to do, he's very boring

Well, the fact that modern games are less open world and more bellboy, this is partly to blame modern graphics
Skyrim can deny it, as at the time denied Oblivion. And in new Vegas the world was open, albeit relatively small in size. A far greater problem of the genre is the discoloration of the most RPG-component, decreases the number of elements of role-playing system, the number of items. Such as Biovar at the forefront sverchevsky only a story that to put it mildly to the level of the film falls short about the book at all silent. Why this game want to go 1 time and not more. And what's more, if almost everything will be the same, because the characters that are limited

Corrosion
Come here without mixing genres, as Sacred and Diablo is also not exactly an RPG

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A.Soldier of Light 13.09.19

Open world is not a sign of a RPG. It can be in any genre.
That's for sure.

As for the graphics, there was of old, that PC deliberately do not use at full strength as a gaming platform, otherwise the console was finally NAP and died. This version seems logical to me. DirectX limits the potential of the PC as a gaming platform, so we get these games. The second reason is more banal: the conveyor, and the principle of"create a game for the masses! (read: for casual). Such cases.
Here is a blog about how the brake directX PC:
http://www.playground.ru/blogs/other/15514/

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Nedra Chili 13.09.19

A. Soldier of Light
With AMD in General, I agree. Mikey always pig podsazhivayut. Remember just like Mikey being bullied by the courts of opencart (from competition and the Borg atskaya popabol). OpenGL is easier and much promising, Carmack is a genius

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Tigrenok123 13.09.19

Old better. By the way, this year will be a splash, maybe something decent.

And Mass Effect... Well, pure games - it is a nothing, you can play (there are worse), but the RPG I would have called her unless probation. Proof? Please! Then there is more shooting or pumping the Persians? Well, okay, even if we forget about it and call it an RPG... still the best RPG I would not call it exactly. So why do some call it? Somehow these people too much.

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Andrey Uthfotyrj 13.09.19

I'm from the old RPGs never played unfortunately(from the old games only Diablo and remember), but that is what surprises me - compare ratings of games old and new. That is baldurs gate where it is rating 95(for those Vremea game was super, I guess) and even some of the new RPG thread - 75 somewhere. Many people think that what they say here gate drive , novohispano shit.
BUT! Evaluation of the gate were placed before that! Then love story or even a thread was new.(plus 10 rating) but now elements of pumping all shooters and slashers stuffed , communication with members 3 in each game( and each 1 of biovars). that is, if you compare the presence of a RPG than even better.
Now I KOTOR 2.Great prophetic tightened unreal fun that kick. And the battles which zrelishnye!( in any modern game even do not have such a beautiful mahie swords - there is a feeling as if really iterotica , not exchange blows)

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Nedra Chili 13.09.19

Tigrenok123
pure play - it is a nothing to play
And for me it MAE the maximum at a time, even if not to take into account its genre affiliation. It was too monotonous, boring. I really do not waste product. The second is even more common

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gordon f.[findering] 13.09.19

Well, undoubtedly better than dragon age same dragon age but I love mass effect for its setting,because the orcs and elves already tired.Is upamyanut fallout.If the first part is very good,and I want to play it again and again,then the third part is also good,but only when playing for the first time,the second time it's boring and monotonous game.

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Andrey Uthfotyrj 13.09.19

propilion on the AH.Ru wrote the formula(the replacement of all the bloody fantasy universe on science fiction , epic story , the quintessence of many sci Fi ideas , some talent and the game of the average came out somewhere in 85из100) I by the way the story liked it. First, simply the enemy to reveal tried , then a mystery(cycle kakieto and even race being extinct) then the explanation of the threat(the ancient race of assassins machii purpose of which is unclear) short interest. Even lapped up those reapers with Berserkers. So what?

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A.Soldier of Light 13.09.19

I really do not waste product. The second is even more common
So. And it is a marketing ploy. To lure more nyufagov and grafodrocherov.