The pros and cons of Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel (Fallout 3)
Here we discuss what benefits have the brotherhood of Steel and Enclave, who is stronger and who is weaker, who has advantages and who the disadvantages, and who will win in the end or should win ?!And most importantly, how to end the fate of these organizations ?
Let's start with the fact that BoS -- a religious organization that worships technology. Simply put, this is nothing more than a sect. The herd of idiots who engaged in the looting without visible progress for decades.
The salvation of human progress -- a cover for such nonsense; it is obvious that thus progress can not be restored or saved.
What they want in reality? Power. You don't seriously think those technologies that they have accumulated over the years, will be transferred to the population in order to alleviate their miserable existence in the wastelands?
To rebuild the world for them, it's obvious that such unilateral development is directed only to the accumulation of forces, to do nothing will not succeed.
Obviously, BoS sucking Enclave. In particular, because BoS -- a herd of village y*bkov using legacy technology and dealing with a little looting for decades. They are so miserable that any random encounter in the wasteland, the Enclave soldiers will put these primitive paladins; Enclave will Ipat them in the wastes as these primitive farmers their cows headed in the barns... or their cows... because God knows how long will change the creation of the wasteland in the course of mutations.
Look at the technology of both sides:
Enclave Hellfire Armor: DR 50, ST +1, FR +30 RR +15
T-45d Power Armor: DR 40, ST +2, AG -2, RR +10
Plasma Rifle: DM 45, CRT, % 2, CRT, DM 44, AP 25
AER9 Laser Rifle DM 23, CRT % 1.5, CRT, DM 22, AP 17
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-- Enclave also actively uses technologies such as inaccessible BoS Vertibirds; greater use of Sentry Bots.
- Power Enclave are extremely numerous and there but the whole territory of the Capital Wasteland and study mutations.
-- Extraterrestrial technology is also available Enclave, on the assumption that the Enclave scientists have been studying the APC, it is South of VAPL-58 Power Station; also, the Enclave is the Alien Blaster.
-- From Enclave control orbitally satellites.
-- Enclave operates with a modified FEV virus, which is able to destroy all mutated, in fact, at the same time.
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The conclusion is obvious: BoS -- weak, useless and pathetic cultists. Of course, BoS sucking Enclave.
Enclave -- the bright future of the country, its revival and further prosperity. The last, best hope, so to speak.
Enclave
Pros
1. Plasma weapons
2. Tesla armor
3. Vertivert
4. Satellites
5. Tesla weapons
6. Numerical prevoshodstvo
7. Claws Of Death
Cons
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The Brotherhood Of Steel
Pros
1. Liberty Prime (Which no longer exists)
Cons
1. Very weak
2. Easy to destroy the base
3. Bad power armor
4. There's no technique
Conclusion: Enclave is better than Brotherhood of Steel.
Much sense to list the pros and cons I see. Limited statement of Scribe Rothchild: Liberty Prime is the only advantage over the Enclave of BoS. In addition, Matt from San Francisco have repeatedly mentioned the superiority of the Enclave.
Komodo Saurian
Small correction, Liberly Prime is already dead. So, the BoS finally no benefits.
compared,figuratively speaking,the army and the civilian population.
the army-machine guns,armored cars,and citizens with Berdan rifle and in the top six chase.
you would have the story of HL2 was dismantled:the aliens bugger with machine guns and grenades.
Not so good in the competitive, [n1kel]. And Enclave and BoS are technological organizations; in addition, I recommend to get acquainted with the Bible, it very clearly indicated, from whom did Enclave, BoS and from whom. The conclusions are obvious.
Enclave because you think the Government and Brotherhood-just soldiers.now these same soldiers and survived without outside support,finding technology.and right now, compare the wealth of the Enclave,and wealth of the Brotherhood,with no support and who are seeking only the very
In my opinion? It really is the Federal government of the United States.
And what does such have to do with what we actually have at the moment? after all, We find reasons not to force an organization but only stating the facts of the superiority of one to another.
first,the brotherhood does not attack you
second,who's got your back after escaping from the memorial (purifier) the enclave?
and even the enclave would be 100% wouldn't give FREE water to the residents of the Wasteland
but even so, the Enclave sat in their thick bunkers,as shown in the plot and the brotherhood fought for survival
Hero (in my face) is going to fuck the Enclave. And the Brotherhood will help him. And in General, the Enclave wants to destroy everything except himself. With this approach to life it is impossible to win (example Nazi Germany)
Not like neither one nor the other. Both organizations give me a kind rejection, with their many rules I strongly disagree. In fact, both organizations constantly hold some polar principles. Is it worth it to fall into such extremes? Definitely not hurt, would some organization, somewhere in the middle between the Enclave and Brotherhood of steel. And here... People are all the forces of grasping at straws of life, and the herd strumming power armor roosters always find out the relationship. And these people want to revive life on Earth? Yeah, yeah, good luck. With these methods, they will only lead humanity to the final collapse. Perhaps it will be better, Yes.
And in General... On the Heath should be one ruler... the Ruler! Well, you guessed it... ^^
To occupy the wastelands healthy people and to restore humankind to full level of technological progress is unacceptable. To relieve the suffering of criminals, patients exposed to drug addicts and other near-humans is unacceptable.
And to let it continue apathetic struggle for survival in the wastes to live for criminals and multiply under the influence of radioactive background mutations — that's right.
The Brotherhood only three plus - liberty, the support of the population and HS. And the last 2 is very slim. I generally play for the Enclave (with mods and cheats).
The enclave is technologically by far the stronger of the Brotherhood. In addition it is the only legal government of the United States, the Fraternity is more reminiscent of some cult.
Almost completely agree with Guardian, except that I am against the destruction of irradiated, but normal (not raiders) people. They can take a legally binding promise not to procreate, in order not to spread of the mutation and be allowed to join the Enclave to work and live a quiet life. Among the inhabitants of the wasteland have a lot of useful specialists, the extra manpower never hurts.
Our HS also turns out not clean genetically? But the President offers the player even to take the place of Autumn. Is not it strange? Eden or just lying? I think not.
'...the support of the population...' - BoS does not support the population, as well as its population.
BoS in Fallout 3 is the only Outcasts. They 'canonical' ideology is successfully reflected in the quotation of the leader, Protector Casdin... 'We didn't worry about saving individual communities. We worried about saving progress of humanity itself'. And, of course, worthy of the achievements of this progress, he believes only BoS.
'We can take from them a legally binding promise...' - with all due respect to your opinion, let me argue.
This is hardly possible. In terms of post-apocalyptic, hostile wasteland it's hard to imagine such methods in action.
All too unstable - constant exposure to background radiation and his creation, the inability of people to be creative - that's what led to free will, I wrote above...
'We he also obtained not clean genetically?' net. The impact of the modified FEV is not fatal to it - that is, the gene pool is correct.
the point of the game , they should be about the same as in the game , some two strengths and neutral ( rogue) technocrats and a complete mess the rest of the world with small Islands of hope and peace. both sides have both good and retarded concepts . when I played for evil , having a mission of brotherhood , demolished their napig and then the rogue , leaving only a group of Rangers , who explores the world , put labels and beating mobs ! and when he was good , it just killed the slavers and the enclave !
This is hardly possible. In terms of post-apocalyptic, hostile wasteland it's hard to imagine such methods in action. Possible. It wasn't just to sign a paper (it's more for the order), but also to take special preparat makes a person infertile. More than sure that in the future biotechnology will allow.
And I think that if you draw a competent educational work among the population, the infected people do not want to procreate, knowing that their grandchildren can become unsure about what freaks.
the inability of people to be creative At the level of life of the people, of course, to create enough capable. Poverty, anarchy and lack of proper equipment.
The impact of the modified FEV is not fatal to it is not checked)
Corella! as soon as this would know that from that group there would be dust , mutated the most important wine on the enhanced mutation lies on the people , who all their experimentation failed and it is healthy for them monsters and villains ! is not be oasis , the restoration of wasteland would be a long process , and the mutation allowed the timing to cut, etc. and ar would just be sold into slavery ! though the sense will be from enlightenment ! -)
The only disadvantage of the Enclave President is a computer which does not care about the fate of thousands of people in the Capital Wasteland. I believe that the President of the Enclave should become the Colonel Otem - more or less sensible character in the game.