Need a specialist on monitors
... and not only. The problem probably not in it.In short this thing. Vertical (slightly inclined to the right, there is a slightly diagonal) stripes. Transparent. Barely noticeable. It would seem simple, but no. So: this problem is present only in TWO games I ever ran. This Assassin's Creed: Origins and Oddysey. It is in these two games. On top of these strips to see is not as easy as it may seem. But if the monitor is set to 100% brightness and 50% contrast (not for the scrutiny, and just as it is for other purposes) they can be seen almost with the naked eye. Perhaps one who doesn't know about them - will notice immediately. Especially noticeable on dark blue backgrounds. For example, surfacing from the depths of the water up. Clearly visible the ripple strips. In Oddysey. And in Origins were well visible in dark places. Those where literally the whole screen is black. And helped to get rid of them - turn off smoothing. In Oddysey is not helping, if only a little bit makes them less noticeable (but not exactly).
Spoilerage from the topic, let me just say that I am looking for people who have the same problem and somehow not really found. So can coincide that those whom I interviewed do not see them and still a problem with the game itself (engine probably), and maybe it's purely my problem.
During all this time, changed the video card. The problem has not disappeared. The config is in the profile. Monitor... Never complaints of it was not. I tried to connect via another port, another cable. Tried plugging the monitor directly into the outlet in the wall. Also this is important: when recording video from the screen - strip is visible. On video. As far as I can tell, this eliminates the malfunction monitor ? It may be wrong. A fragment can record, if necessary. Let me just say that a little loss of quality when recording, these bands can be seen slightly worse, but still to see them really. Oh yeah. Monitor: SAMSUNG S27C650
Spoileralert - 300;
Contrast - 1000:1 / 5000:1;
27-inch / 1920 x 1080 / 16.9 / 60 Hz;
AD-PLS / MVA / PLS;
Latency (ping) - 5 MS;
I hope there is versed in this shit people. Not in service also to go with this =)
talking about the screenshot of the video and play with its size and color contrast, spectrum bias
if the problem will remain visible monitor brand neprichem
and such things can give bad aliasing dumb in this one game finally static the Ghost of the frame stuck in the buffer is very entertaining, followed
MunchkiN 616
Did not understand about the screenshot, sizes and color contrast. Explain on for more.
Alex Hawk
stop the video where you can see these artifacts. please take a screenshot of the entire screen. open it in some sort of program on the similarity of the painten of the net. if this pefect matrix it will not be visible in a different color scaling. if there's an artifact in the game, he will be frozen into the image and will appear in all color schemes and positions the image on the screen
MunchkiN 616
Yes they are visible. But worse. Because it is easier to notice them when movement of the picture. But if with a magnifying glass to look - see. I just don't understand what this stool can be I have one of OO Even in two games on the same engine.
There is a sense, though maybe I'm just tripping, even for a static picture - these bands ryabyat slightly. If the pixels flicker. But at the level of I may have been buggy.
Alex Hawk
The narrow place SAMSUNG S27C650 this PWM illumination control... purely electronics and often he falls into the services with the problems of these circuit.
But there is something else. Needed screen.
In the settings of the vertical synchronization digging?
Leonn_24
I'm afraid that in the screenshot it is not visible. But in any case, I see it. Knowing about them. Even have the feeling that they are on a static screen flicker. But maybe just an optical illusion caused by the specific effect. Poured on file sharing, PG is greater than 5 MB are not drawn.
Спойлерhttps://dropmefiles.com/HtvSe
airstorm
No, this is clearly nothing to do with the plane. Because the stripes are different. No horizontal gaps, namely vertical. And not tears. Something else. Can be compared to graininess in games. Also like some sort of filter.
Hmm. At looked at the screen and noticed an interesting garbage. When approaching locations with the anomaly, the direction of bands changes. Suppose a scroll (zoom), they lie almost horizontally, as if stretching, one scrolling the other side visible. Strange game. Also if you really zoom out, they become slightly more pronounced but less blink.
In. If you minimize this image, it is a direct super visible. Even with the iPhone screen looked - you can see this stuff. Even more clearly than in the game itself. In the game if it were so, it would be game over just.
(open in a separate window that had a dark background)
(what's highlighted in red in this case, we can see around the screenshot, and not just one area)
And similar for scaling an image in the afternoon. When I have these strips do not see in the game (although they are, if you look in certain places).
Alex Hawk
On night the picture clearly shows vertical stripes with a slight slope. Remember got me to repair Benq there was also a similar moire. The problem was quickly solved banal replacement HDMI cable, but there are these bands hung always. There is clearly something else.
airstorm
Tried different cable simultaneously with another output. Obvchno connected via DP, checked via DVI. And Yes. Only two fucking asasina.
Alex Hawk
Hmm... interesting.
Tried to lower the refresh rate? And you can experiment with the resolution. Lower it to 1280x720 (16:9 ratio).
Alex Hawk
It is the most. Video adapter settings and all that. I don't think that the Windows settings are set to 30 frames. In the presence of a 60 Hz monitor ... likely to be a variant 59. Another thing is in the settings of the graphics card you can set the value manually. Change where familiar ;) .... by the way cheap monitors from LG give is barely noticeable tree when switching from 60 to 59 Hz
airstorm
But you know? Strange fnya observed. Manipulation of fps and plane - do not fucking give. BUT! I set the resolution to 200% and no bands. Sterile. Returned 100 - shit everywhere. Put 120 (minimum gain) - so there are no streaks. And if there is, I couldn't see. What kind of stool? The resolution decided not to touch in the end or still have to test?
airstorm
In General checked all the options. ANY resolution besides the standard - does not issue strips. The modifier permits the same circuit. If 90% - they are not. 120% - also no. 100% - is.
Alex Hawk
Well... the first thing that comes to mind... check circuit of horizontal scanning/updating, poke the oscilloscope, there is still 30-80 kHz ... in short, if the necessary skill, knowledge and no instruments, it is necessary to carry in service.
airstorm
Ass service. There is still only money can breed =) Even if (a miracle) understand what is the cause of failure, hell fix it to be honest =) especially the monitor and so sell. Is there any logic to change the screen resolution in principle, higher or lower? Could it be that stupid AS to see the effect of failure, but he is present and when it is not? Just last time my eyes get tired much more than before I started to notice it. Can connected...
Alex Hawk
Alex Hawk wrote:
Is there any logic to change the screen resolution in principle, higher or lower?
Is. But to write about the resolution and its communication with the scan, frequencies, the pulse shape of the driving generator and its stability , synchronization, etc. will not... it's not a technical forum, and fix the problem can not.
On account of the divorce on the money... well, it's already on the conscience of the workers affected. As electronic engineer, I can say that when broke to delve into the Board (which is almost always the case when there is no specifically blown details!) in the swing method: get any service the whole of the cost and stupidly replace it and then bill me ;) ... especially that the larger diagonal of the monitor/TV, the higher the probability to find the services a device with a broken die and a electronics :D
PS I Read in your profile configuration of the computer... well with this card... when you sell the monitor, get something Assee, with a frequency of 144 Hz and supports G-Sync ;) - so, for the future