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ColonelJason 18.09.19 08:00 pm

Change.

That was nearly thirty years since Victor is a musician Choi unsuccessfully went fishing and came into the dead poets. No positive changes in our lives, as everyone already knew, did not happen, but what has changed is the attitude of the singer in the public consciousness. Fifteen years ago, hardly anyone has dared to give the band Movie description play cure, sing stuff, and the response to such an opinion would be naked and most likely physical aggression. But now, almost every topic on the subject of a subject typed a good third of the people (and I am among them), glagolyaschy unpleasant truths about borrowed from the British music, criminal Ayzenshpisa*, the young lady with low social responsibility Stingray** etc. I would Like to reflection: what is the cause of desacralization idol? Was it out of frustration in room rock in General, and in music as in his face ( although he certainly not managed to discredit themselves like the rest of his colleagues uneasy to songs of freedom(tm)). Or thing about getting older, and coming with it the understanding of the deep financial involvement of all nonconformist widely replicated phenomena (as he wrote another Victor in the area of radical youth culture nothing sells so well as wisely packaged and politically correct rebellion against a world)? Or the fact that it became available more information, more opportunities to Express their views, and expanded representative sample of speaking out? Or just, as they say in a famous poem [tired] Choi with your guitar?

*Yuri Aizenshpis (1945-2005), music producer and official criminal, apart from the Movie unraveled so distant from the ideological music projects as Katya LEL and Dima Bilan. Holds the view that one of the main factors of the popularity of the Movie began business ability ayzenshpisa.

**Joanna Stingray (1960 - not yet) the American friend rockers and daughter-millionaire. Due to ambiguous appearance, the rockers of his homeland Johanna demand was not, as they themselves were millionaires. But have not had time to taste the fruit of morally corrupted West Russian rocker, the former , moreover, a beggar, to her person showed a keen interest in, and loved it. Virtually all of its diverse composition. That, however, did not become an obstacle to their true love with Yuri Kasparian (the guitar player of Cinema) in 1987 concluded with her marriage, and left shortly for permanent residence in the United States (the couple divorced in 1991), and in 1988 the Movie started out really cool albums (blood (1988), and so on).
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masha 18.09.19

ColonelJason wrote:
the attitude of the singer in the public consciousness
Don't know what it was about. Maybe somewhere stuffing occur, which are aimed at changing attitudes to Choi?

I personally do not like that modern popular singers, his songs rehash in a new way. Then it is played in campaign commercials or movies, or concerts.

My attitude has not changed in any way, tunes I like, the music is good.

Remember the 90s, the Nes console.

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[Denis Aleksandrovich] 18.09.19

Any propaganda directed against Tsoi, never seen.Just about it does not resemble, as to Be

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ColonelJason 18.09.19

You have not grasped my message, ladies and gentlemen: I didn't say anything about stuffing, nor about propaganda. Stuffing mean distortion of reality with the purpose of denigrating something, is propaganda, at least, implies one-sided coverage of the information (often also includes lying). Sounded to me claims to have no lies or one-sided, it's just the facts. The music is secondary
Спойлерhttps://music.yandex.ru/album/296972/track/2767739?from=serp_autoplay&play=1 the project commercial, at the helm of the criminal, the financial support from America, the ideological promise the test of time did not survive. So, the question was not whether these claims are fair or not (they are fair), is, why only now began to speak.
[Denis] wrote:
Just don't remind about it
In my opinion this is the most mentioned in the current media of the Russian rocker (despite the fact that he is no longer doing anything new). At least in these summer days (his Dr and the day of death) annually roll out tons of articles.

[Denis] wrote:
as to Be
It is in the interests of Talkova. If the Movie just borrowed the overall style, musical direction and some of the reefs that talc were stupid songs sung a blueprint.
Spoiler

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Sheril 18.09.19

Changes require our hearts,
Changes require our eyes,
In our laughter and our tears,
And pulsing veins
Change!
We are waiting for changes.

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zdrastE 18.09.19

ColonelJason wrote:
In my opinion this is the most mentioned in the current media of the Russian rocker
Russian rocker already smishno.
I want the control head?
Spoilerose Grebenshikov!!! that's who rockrally shovels rocker.
by the way, change is the only song of Tsoi, he seems to recall. and then, probably, only thanks to solovievka movie Fujitsu. it's very well Director built it into his picture and that's why this song and fired.
it would not be a movie there would be Movie.
well, how would say unforgettable, guy de, see our, Maupassant, closer to the body.
ColonelJason wrote:
the major message of this test stand.
type of change? well, clear the stump - when the helmsman rules the boat go for 20 years almost, about what changes can be discussed? any change for with great effort built vertical stability and scranage beauty (and has not small, very, very, very small loot) like death.
ColonelJason wrote:
So, the question was not whether these claims are fair or not (they are fair), is, why only now began to speak.
well so little people can really did wanted to change, is pulled into the light of the ancient skeletons of Soviet rock-n-roll Tsoi.
and why now? well, my e... the green from the sale of juice, a piece of land Russian, Gigi flammable had was not hvatat. yeah, overspend folk, groshikov the power to eat and left, but the blueprints Orthodox SIP. there is a new coat the kids, Ali the little wife a new dress to celebrate already, not everyone on the shoulder...
yeah and the TV's current Pro-Nazis Bandera and the salvation of the africo-Latin American Papuans gryat. about their Russian Ivan like everything is forgotten, or, in the end briefly commemorated, saying live well.
yeah... that's nice firm mooring and -- and changes, want, built, they say, was building a vertical that serve teperecha change... heh, heh... Yes, well they will give them? Choi?...
Spoiler

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ColonelJason 18.09.19

By the way, change.. Argued that the song was written in a sarcastic manner. But, as in the case of mom-anarchy , intellectual most have focused on the emotional chorus, not really catching what exactly they are singing.
Cigarette in hand, tea on the table - the circle is complete, and then we become afraid to change something.
In this latest in the song line shows that the author was skeptical about the prospects for real active kitchen paramedical, and, as we now see, not in vain.

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zdrastE 18.09.19

ColonelJason wrote:
In this latest in the song line shows that the author was skeptical about the prospects for real active kitchen paramedical, and, as we now see, not in vain.

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potter790 18.09.19

ColonelJason wrote:
There is a perception that the song was written in a sarcastic manner. But, as in the case of mom-anarchy , intellectual most have focused on the emotional chorus, not really catching what exactly they are singing.
Quite a misconception. It is now don't know what Sami is talking about, not to mention..
The delusion to think that such songs could to something to bring. How naive to think that, now rallies Oval can than over.
At that time a lot of people about that singing, and humor and with a blue screen, anecdotes, etc. etc. It was a way of life at that time, and no more.

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masha 18.09.19

ColonelJason
It is not clear what the topic, explain in detail.

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requiemmm 18.09.19

Time goes by and the one who wanted change together with Tsoy, or drunk and died, or just died or got serious hipotecariogabriela and he had no time to play ardent revolutionary. For the new generations shkoloty Choi only inscription on the fence of the 90s, they won from the speakers is heard exclusively shitty Russian rap, which is about the street read by those who in the life of mommy's soup did not depart.
And talc remember and love, his CA was different, now it is a cultural people well over 40. Beat the snout you will not, but will not give a hand.

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forfor_31 18.09.19

requiemmm
speaking of music,any other music they do not perceive, and call it th*nom.

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Vaipen 18.09.19

All except the Change and blood who else remembers what songs it?

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Pilat. 18.09.19

Vaipen
Everybody says we're together, but not many know what)

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masha 18.09.19

I downloaded all the albums stored somewhere.
Often listen to music different, so know the name of some songs.

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Gauguin 18.09.19

Musically, the work of Choi of course is pale (but not the worst) a copy of the Western post-punk bands, like Coeur, the Smiths, joy division, Echo and the Bunnies, etc - until the cold Gothic slightly distorted production. The above-mentioned groups and the like consists of a musical phase, which took place longing Teens, entering into adulthood, not as low and childish as metal, punk and the lizard king, but still a phase. Of course, that if the original is not the most honorable role, to say nothing of copies in the person of Viktor Robertovich (I confess that some songs and even albums these Western groups, if you ignore the lyrics even for me have a certain nostalgic value that it's hard for me to overcome, but to Movie is irrelevant). The same with the texts in question, of course they were ridiculous and looked artificial, grown in the greenhouse longing of the younger generation.
In General, post-punk however, unlike punk (who was one of the worst crimes against music and culture in the 20th century) was much more interesting musically, and most importantly - useful, because he took the petty-bourgeois protest degenerative impulses common to many (at least classical) genres of rock music and redirecting them from external environment to internal experiences and even left a relatively good heredity (people who listened to the whining of Morrissey and Curtis continued afterwards listening to Thom Yorke, etc.). On copy in person Movie this is reflected directly, the music like of the sample, which was the opposite of reassurance physically could not cause a real change, in General, that wasn't so bad (change of Soviet realities hidden under the change liberalism or socdem - to change sewed on soap), it was intended for nostalgic passive vsepropalschikov. Therefore, changes, demanded of the heart but not real action. A possible (but as for me - almost one hundred percent) of the irony of the lyrics Tsoi nothing is impossible.

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GTAman 18.09.19

ColonelJason wrote:
No positive changes in our lives, as everyone already knew, did not happen
As did not happen? We began to dress better! (c)