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Ar4er2016
You have a good sbrocca. Everything in it is fine (balanced).

Ar4er2016
The RAM for kovelenov fast, low to at least 3200. 8700 from 8700К is not only higher frequency even without overclocking but TPD which have 8700 in the area of 65W and 8700К in the area 95Вт. That can just choke the processor performance, so it is better to take 8700К so you do not regret that did not pay a penny.

Ar4er2016
For 8700 without It will be the norm. For 8700К preferably better.

Ar4er2016
Why 8700k?? At 8700 has a Turbo Boost at 4600. Using a multiplier of the motherboard it is placed on the tenure, any value, up 4600. At 8700k - 4700. With regards to large numbers, then there is a good ahlada or DLC + scalp.
The difference between the 8700 and 8700k is negligible even in overclocked:
Comparison
At 8700k is not difficult to read the reviews. The temperature is high.
The RAM Yes, for coffee as well as for AMD preferably, select same on the list to the motherboard - tested RAM.
Motherboard, much more pleasant in all respects, would be the MSI krait edition is annealed, similarly to 8700 put a Tomahawk, MSI Z370-A PRO sli plus msi z370. Any build I do not remember at Gigabytes around them.
The RAM would be better from G. Skill with samsonovsky chips, something like G. Skill Aegis 16GB DDR4 3000 16GISB K2 C16 for 9800. Or G. Skill Ripjaws 16GB DDR4 16GVRB V 3200 CL16 Kit (2x8GB) for 10500, the same great.

VOVAN WOLF
I have reason to take this motherboard, as only the old pci express. Now the PC sound card Asus Xonar D1, I would not go to native. And what are exactly the problems with Gigi?

VOVAN WOLF
If so pick komplektuhu, it may be the budget a person is not enough. No limit, or good is the enemy of the best.
But you in its own right.?

There are more like this: MSI Z370 PC PRO?

Ar4er2016
Now there is adapter PCI-e to PCI are not expensive, you can look for. I also have a problem with sound (ESI Juli@).
If percents not to drive you, the problems with the motherboard not supposed to be. Marriage and jambs compatibility are common to all manufacturers. Even on top models. The main thing that the BIOS was updated often, but not like ASROCK.

Ar4er2016
pci express is and MSI:
What's that to you?
Everything there is much.
Gig previously annealed, and in General, have turned away from it. Do not say anything, I'd rather take what you take others, is the rule. While never made a mistake.
MSI Z370 PC PRO - I did not mention, saw this in Borki.

Ryazancev
He is going to the 8700, then the budget rules. Bole, I exceeded somewhere? You think I threw an expensive motherboard or RAM. I assure You that they are not more expensive than what it is now, especially in part I prices announced.

VOVAN WOLF
I gigabytes is not very much, hlebanul with them. You'll need a regular PCI slot (old) now is a rarity. And without it, it is necessary kolhozah adapter that can give a lot of latency in ASIO, or even to work with the glitches. Just buy zvukovojj this class, as there is still approx. +5000 RUB. to the budget (PCI-e). Adapter (PCI-e to PCI) costs approx. 1700 RUB with Ali.
Otherwise agree with you.
But if this small performance gain nafig not needed, then let him take whatever you want.

Ar4er2016
Pay attention that on the 10th the wind will be at your zvukovojj some problems. Read it here otzyvy.https://www.dns-shop.ru/product/66da342c9ffe6f9f/vnutrennaa-zvukovaa-karta-asus-xonar-d1/opinion/ ISF driver on the website of ASUS is (Wine under 10), can and will be okay, dunno.
Just got a new Intel has support only the new OS (Vin10).

Ryazancev
I know, thank you, is very informal.

VOVAN WOLF
VOVAN WOLF wrote:
Why 8700k?? At 8700 has a Turbo Boost at 4600. Using a multiplier of the motherboard it is placed on the tenure, any value, up 4600.
Actually there 4300 maximum you can make permanent on all cores. Why write if you don't know???

MagicHero
There's even a 4300 is enough. Everything else will require scalp and DLC, not less. Anyway, it's numbers are very good, and the difference was not great. Again, take 8700k much sense, for themselves. Although, if you sell, maybe someone will scalp, and collect dropsy, it will be easier to sell.

Ar4er2016 wrote:
But does it make sense?
There is, and it's not overclocked.
But you take the lock Schaub in the future such silly claims did not. As they say experience comes with practice. ))

VOVAN WOLF
VOVAN WOLF wrote:
PCI-e to PCI.
Isn't this the same connector, just with lower bandwidth. I put my network card in the X16 slot, everything works.
OMG if in the gland zero, why continue to give advice? PCI does not insert to PCI-E, they are not compatible. You're given 2 simply invented by the Council, so better do not write anything more if you do not understand.
VOVAN WOLF wrote:
There's even a 4300 is enough. Everything else will require scalp and DLC, not less. Anyway, it's numbers are very good, and the difference was not great. Again, take 8700k much sense, for themselves.
There are differences not only in frequency but which have a TDP 65W 8700 just that maybe under heavy load, contribute to a decline in frequency. And what about the performance of the overpayment what is 3K-4K for ~25% performance increase is just a penny because a couple of years, the absence of these 25% may create problems.

MagicHero
Not know is not terrible, terrible is not know. Accepted, we know. I lured them.
Wrong again. The first is irrelevant. In any case, 8700k all clear.

VOVAN WOLF
What 8700К okay? +25% for little overpayment?

MagicHero
From the figure? I threw a comparison. What do You have?
Comparison
I rarely see ruching at 8700k, most 8700. And Yes don't forget the meager increase for liquid metal and DLC.

VOVAN WOLF
Here you can look there sometimes a gap in fps have been 28% despite the fact that differences in the frequency around 21%, it's all about TDP. And on the charts are not visible possible dips in fps in scenes loaded due to the lack of TDP.