How to solve the crashes to the desktop without an error? (The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim)
The situation is the following.Got myself Skyrim regular edition, scored supplements, of habit, climbed on Skyrim Nexus, mods ponabrali with modmanager... Set. And there was uniform pornography. In a completely random times and in totally random places started absolutely randomly crashes to the desktop without showing any errors.
The gugleniya did not give any sane results, since the proposed measures are at best nothing has changed (for the worse - turned the game into something fundamentally unplayable). A list of proposed measures:
1. Delete all saves and game settings (files Skyrim.ini and Skyrimprefs.ini) so that the next time you start the game put the settings on default;
2. To set the correct load order of mods with BOSS bend;
3. Disable all mods in modmanager;
4. Remove all mods nafig;
5. Put a bunch of Microsoft software (from DirectX 10.1 .Net Framework 4 to openly raznyh things like DirectX SDK 2010);
6. To change the settings of the sound device 16 bit, 44100 Hz;
7. Test, healed my laptop with dust.
None of these measures did not benefit. At all.
Google on, find a guide to TES5Edit (the program is) - and receives an offer in the event of further departures view are not in conflict with any part of the game. Looked. After one and a half hours of Smoking manual and detailed consideration is not a user-friendly interface it became clear that the conflict in the game a lot of things. And within additions to the game and the master file Skyrim.esm : Problem, officer? Rule as it is written!..
... and as a result a dozen clicks to get the game without half of the animations. Judging by the topics that were found to conflict, even without half of the quests.
This begs the question,..and to do then?
Rzhach that the problem is not in the system (according to the nexus authors modmanager), and not in the mod (according to the steam forums), and not in the gland (also from stimovsky forums removed). The problem is, AS modmanager sets the fashions. Not only is this weirdo system is not working with files of large sizes (such as mods Immersive Armors/Weapons) - so it is still something crooked their sets.
And the miracle happened. Downloaded all these mods manually handles copied and put in game folder everything that I needed. And running. And what you suggest.
PY.Sy. Put the Legendary Edition on the PC, checked - the same canoe... Could be Windows 8 and compatibility with modmanager. Maybe. The fact is - handles anything put on hurrah.
And, um, yeah. Knowledge of English and want to learn more about them on the issue - Google Skyrim CTD that means Skyrim Closes To Desktop.
CouncilorTevos
1. Delete all saves and game settings (files Skyrim.ini and Skyrimprefs.ini) so that the next time you start the game put the settings on default; default does not mean optimal.
2. To set the correct load order of mods with BOSS bend; the Balance of load order of mods this prog - recommendation and is not a panacea, not a truth (+ use your head and recommendations from the authors)
After one and a half hours of Smoking manual and detailed consideration is not a user-friendly interface it became clear that the conflict in the game a lot of things. And within additions to the game and the master file Skyrim.esm : Problem, officer? Rule as it is written!.. I don't know what there is no such user - friendry, everything is clear. And the esm files (skalmowski official) this app can NOT change (in the manual this is written). So, it is nothing.
This begs the question,..and to do then? Rather begs a question: and whether it was done?
Rzhach that the problem is not in the system (according to the nexus authors modmanager), and not in the mod (according to the steam forums), and not in the gland (also from stimovsky forums removed). The problem is, AS modmanager sets the fashions. Not only is this weirdo system is not working with files of large sizes (such as mods Immersive Armors/Weapons) - so it is still something crooked their sets. The problem really can be in the above examples. A"weirdo system install automatically (you can always check the archive yourself, and then only install).
And the miracle happened. Downloaded all these mods manually Is not a miracle, is a thankless task. If you look carefully at the archives and, if necessary, to repackage them, if you carefully read the authors ' advice with a mind to use the prog and set the boot order of the plugins - it would be better (and delete can still be in one click).
spellcustomer
These steps were not invented by me. )
In krivosti hands I also hard to blame, because no longer a little boy and with a series of TES (as well as mods to them) more familiar with the original Morrowind'a. And up to this point I modmanager never failed.
And Yes, manual installation does. And, surprisingly, when connecting to native - pack of high-resolution textures through the launcher problems with them, and if to do the same through modmanager - is. How to explain it? )
CouncilorTevos
Begin at the beginning, put Skyrim, check for availability, and then put the mods( not a lot) by checking their compatibility with the game and with each other.
nestrbob
Sheer genius. )
Clean Skyrim works Bang in both publications. The list of mods are the same. )
Only now when they install manually and activate through the launcher they work, and through modmanager - no. )
spellcustomer
About edit Update.esm, by the way, you're not entirely right. In two tutorials, which could see indicated that inconsistencies there may be, and in the multiple update should be. And even order podlaczenia .esm for cleaning (in the case of update.esm, for example, need only connect it and skyrim.esm).
CouncilorTevos
Why do you modmanager? Especially if it is a headache. I personally not when it is not used and needs in it do not see.
CouncilorTevos
In krivosti hands I also hard to accuse you of course I don't know, but I... and no one ever accused (sory if that). Just about TES5Edit then painted fair (manual transmission you need to read better, sorry again).
And up to this point I modmanager never failed. Then it is not necessary to argue that manual installation is better (here it is written that the mod Manager is to blame, I disagree. It's just a program for automatic variation in the folders of the game files and to set PROPER load order, and nothing more. And what kind of files it pumped. and what quality they are, and in what order to connect them - it can respond to only the user who applied first head. The program - the silly woman and do what she instructed (the rest depends on common sense). But it's too convenient to pass up (and I know a lot of examples of assemblies where the problems with reach without error just no). But if the RAM a little (iron) or the computer is clogged (the state of iron) or left (the bungling of the mod authors) that manual installation is not only not solve, but exacerbate the problem (each time manually remove files? Absurd. And no easier first make sure that the archives is in order?).
but if to do the same through modmanager - is. How to explain it? A special case, nothing special performance, the manual setting does not prove (in packs textures light a wedge has not converged).
CouncilorTevos
In two tutorials, which could see indicated that inconsistencies there may be, and in the multiple update should be. Well, I'll tell you, so don't guide watching. It is IMPOSSIBLE to change them (it is technically possible, but strongly not recommended).
nestrbob
So I wrote this for those who, like me, searched through 50 pages of Google and haven't found a solution :3
But still it is strange. Before something (the first time I put Skyrim) everything was working fine. Now nifiga... Iron did not change, the system apnulsya with Vista and 8 - only if that's the problem. Or in a distorting modmanager what actually put.
spellcustomer
About TES5Edit in your time doing the build mods (for myself), and asked to check out familiar on the subject of compatibility issues. And my claim to this program's not that she doesn't work or works incorrectly, and that she never unintuitive interface and weird manual. In particular, about cleaning .esm files written there.
About the special cases. I to what wrote it? To those who have tried all these options and nothing is achieved (i.e. were in the same private event, I) did not despair and finally solved the problem. Smekaesh?
CouncilorTevos
and that she never unintuitive interface and weird manual. A matter of taste, of course, but it sort of Amateurs set up (and clear it, I don't know, cleaning takes place in several stages, what and where to click painted).
did not despair, and finally solved the problem. Smekaesh? This is not a solution to the problem is nuclear war. You never found out why, right? Just got it, and why - is not clear. And I'm talking about that crashes without errors are possible and for other reasons, your having nothing in common. And then (if the case, for example, in the fashion of some) easier to use the prog, to facilitate your life, not to endure every time the game and unpack endless archives.
CouncilorTevos
All gamers from Win8 deny, and you Vice versa. This OS was designed for smartphones and tablets, and with many games it has problems. I never realized that you ran into modmanager? Task when you install the mods - they work, they work well without it.
spellcustomer
Intuitive interface - it is the quality, when unfamiliar with the program the user on the basis of existing experience (eg. a user of the popular office programs, graphics and video editors) and banal logic can understand and no manual where to blow and where to whistle. And if the interface we have does not have this quality, and to use it will be 2.5 persons (and more to create their own mods).
To carry and put the game to 5 minutes. So do not think that thermonuclear war. In my special case a way out was found. My post about what to do in such a special case. What do you want to understand the happiness?..
nestrbob
I'm working on at least three workstations during the week, and appreciate the integration of the cloud in the top eight. Because I use it.
Games are still a hobby.
CouncilorTevos
Intuitive interface - it is the quality That's just not going to be here education to deal with. I believe that if you this program is not convenient, then it is your own personal difficulty (many use at times).
To carry and put the game to 5 minutes. And the archives plugin to unpack - the same five minutes? I have about 50 mods, I have them all manually every time to extract it so? Or should I leave the unpacked files over and install the game again, right? Thank you, of course, a great solution, but... I half a day to spend it wouldn't (even more so if the problem is not the Manager, eh).
spellcustomer
Educate you, I see, to do at least costs. Because I'm not first day at see PG. I'm your miracle posts on the forum is Mass Effect read, your level of thinking is present. Therefore, explain in detail and consistently.
I wonder why you have suddenly decided that the problem is NOT modmanager? )
CouncilorTevos
I'm your miracle posts on the forum is Mass Effect read, your level of thinking is present. That's right, I'm your fascist anti-Slav statements also remembered. Here is not mass effect, and was going to nice people, adequate (therefore the person to move I'm not going and neither should you). If you have something hurts - write freely in PM, I will answer all questions.
I wonder why you have suddenly decided that the problem is NOT modmanager? I know that I have such a problem and there I have modmanager, I know that my friends and many others, this is not a problem and they modmanager. I know that this problem exists and those who modmanager not use it. Consequently, modmanager is just one of the possible causes of crashes with no error, all.