how interesting in the shoutbox during the period of quarantine to shoot the breeze about anything
such a question from the field of sociology, morality, common sense... in General, any convenient to you to discuss the area. even chatter about nothing, otherwise, why this topic name?if, God forbid, in the foreseeable future cure for this infection, thanks where we all sit at home and again thanks to which the world economy slowly but surely goes to hell will not be found, well... let's say in the course of the year.
and the only way to protect yourself from COVID-19 has been ongoing quarantine. despite the fact that everyone understands that the reserves of the people is not infinite, the level of collapse of the global economy is directly proportional to the length of quarantine, deaths from the virus compared to other diseases is small, the high-risk group has a fairly clearly defined age limits.
question - is there a reason to leave the quarantine, one way or another all to recover (meaning small enough deaths from the virus) and hope for the production of immunity, to keep from falling apart economy, which will come inevitably if you do not stop the quarantine. it is on one side of the scale.
on the other side of the high - risk group, the elderly or immunocompromised.
put yourself the question in a rather cynical way (life in General is a cynical piece) - are you personally to sacrifice all of humanity (with varying probability) for sufficiently small parts of it? as if we didn't want to, but this choice sooner or later have to do it all if the cure COVID-19 will not be found.
so... suggestions, theories, conspiracy theories, emotions... anything, even the idle talk about (edrichesky Kolovrat! we quarantined or where?)
will start with chatter about nothing.
I remember as a child, I along with the boys from my yard periodically in the spring and summer raiding nearby to our home hospital on the territory of which grew a large number of fruit trees - cherries, apples, apricots and cherries. more and raspberry bushes grew up with a gooseberry. neither the efforts of the watchmen for the protection of their territory, no spontaneous diarrhoea from absorbing unimaginable amounts of green and unwashed fruit could not stop the raids locust from nearby houses.
so would it and continued, handed down from generation to generation if not for one notable event associated directly with the status of the hospital.
one day (well, if it can at all be considered) our hospital redeveloped out of the ordinary in regional KVD (STI clinic) with hospital and all other attributes of medical institutions, including the rumors with the chilling details of the patients of this institution with their noses falling off and other clinical manifestations are still victims of Venus.
...yeah... you know, right? how depressed all the neighborhood of the Vikings, when peacefully walking through their former hunting grounds of pajamas and hospital gowns. and, horror of horrors!!! gnarled by leprosy hands of these pajamas and gowns (our fear competed with our own ignorance and on the more wild imagination) tore belonging to the us apples or apricots...
topics for idle chatter in the Playground, of course increased, but... free fruit to eat as it instantly got sick.
heh. heh... in short, Sklifosovsky. do you think as long time get rid of the hospital garden from the attacks of the neighborhood locust?
So they are not treated, and the infection spread. Here entot your covid allegedly reached my village and paramedic in the suit hanging around the door offering to do the test. The humor of the situation is that she has only razdolbany UAZ and this stupid costume that no one even alcohol wipes, and she wanders from house to house, from village to village...Yes, these doctors are worse than a plague of rats! Rats, though tired to go on foot, and those on the transport. Barely put on the threshold is not allowed, for nefig.
Now seasonal runny nose at all, these frightened fools in robes still in no hurry to shift responsibility to the city, dragging all in infektsionku...in which all are guaranteed to pick up everything at once. By the way, really why wouldn't for more than a year in the country. Last summer there were cases strange cases of pneumonia with high fever, but no one cared. We had two or three cases.
Entered stupid mode in stores, forcing all retirees to come to the shops in the morning. Queue, crush, scandals...guaranteed infection. Under the guise of, raised the price of food doubled, especially annealed magnet Kremlin storyteller, lemons with mold 500 rubles and tomato paste for two hundred for the Bank is to them.
Another of the parts of the Kremlin clown in a given country, when we started all this shit, just took the bus, but the bus from St. Petersburg continued to drive, carrying infected in the region:) And the Finns continued to ride, they do not care. That is to drive to the pharmacy, the people could not, but the contagion they drove straight to the house.
The money of the people gradually come to an end, patience is also, in principle, most have scored a bolt on it all.
As for the question about bringing humanity to the victim, he is not worth as such. When the money runs out, no crowds of grey will not keep the hungry herds at home. It Muscovites can prozhirat our money, and the country is, well, we closed the sawmill, for example. There was a salary well twenty, men have family, two children at least, have up to five more stupid, the really stupid crazy enough before closing just to take out a loan for the construction of the hope that suddenly there will be money and will to give. Inventory no. Bank accounts - no. Harvest in the garden - yet. Well, the COP comes and says, like, stay home, and then fined? And where will it be sent? And start coming, so it's still live and he also has a family. And if you start to shoot, so, I think we then democracy will bring, the benefit of a convenient moment:) there is No question of quarantine will be either cancelled or disrupted, and have been ill all, and if someone dies, well, means, not destiny.
if quarantine was not difficult to say it would be economically more beneficial because this was the performance of the production still, and a large explosive kolicevo cases which someone couple like that where it was Nada to do. that is, it could be even more expensive on the effects but quickly.
and so perhaps the right strategy to quarantine and zatem gradually cut him down, regardless of the vanquished epidemic or no. so the number of cases which is approximately obyatnym number and waiting until people actually Etat virus will be recycled, is recycled and Tama Darwin's theory and of large numbers in General.
requiemmm wrote:
As for the question about bringing humanity to the victim, he is not worth as such.
mankind...
Hello wrote:
question - is there a reason to leave the quarantine, one way or another all to recover (meaning small enough deaths from the virus) and hope for the production of immunity, to keep from falling apart economy, which will come inevitably if you do not stop the quarantine. it is on one side of the scale.
The answer has already been given as an example: England. And Sweden. The result is not pretty, to put it mildly...
Of course, everyone can recover... but the number of casualties would be orders of magnitude more.
Hello wrote:
put yourself the question in a rather cynical way (life in General is a cynical piece) - are you personally to sacrifice all of humanity (with varying probability) for sufficiently small parts of it? as if we didn't want to, but this choice sooner or later have to do it all if the cure COVID-19 will not be found.
In this case, you force the Respondent to ignore the quarantine measures, because they can be used to move the pandemic with minimal losses, there's a vaccine or not. That is, if there is no established vaccine, quarantine measures just extended, will look at the situation and adjust the policy and economy of the state under it. New realities in the world, a new world. People in General do not change, but change can politics, Economics, laws...
Yes, in all cases, it is damage to the development of civilization, this can not be avoided.
Hello wrote:
conspiracy theories, emotions...
Conspiracy theory: China's fall were teaching, which involved American soldiers. It is they who have brought the virus to mow China, probably order in person trump (he does not like China). Well )
requiemmm wrote:
it deals with the question of bringing humanity to the victim, he is not worth as such. When the money runs out, no crowds of grey will not keep the hungry herds at home.
Logical. By the way, the lack of pharmaceuticals or masks in drugstores it's nothing compared to the lack of food. Food and water is fundamentally infinitely more important than any medicine from the point of view of the common man (well, actually any human), so the state is more important than even the availability of means of protection for the population in pharmacies, and the availability of food in the shops.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
The answer has already been given as an example: England. And Sweden. The result is not pretty, to put it mildly...
and the answer is...? hopefully, the brain canned not related with the brain fish Guppies and she still remembers the content of the question - is there a reason to leave the quarantine...
there is a sense?
it makes no sense?
don't know?
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
In this case, you force the Respondent to ignore quarantine measures
well blah... don't make, but merely offer an idle discussion of a hypothetical problem, one of which is already a fait accompli refusal of quarantine.
Hello wrote:
are you personally to sacrifice all of humanity (with varying probability) for sufficiently small parts of it?
periscope from a tin of our Baltic sprat not clean enough, which makes its occupant the opportunity for a careful reading of the post?
Hello
Hello wrote:
question - is there a reason to leave the quarantine, one way or another all to recover (meaning small enough deaths from the virus) and hope for the production of immunity, to keep from falling apart economy, which will come inevitably if you do not stop the quarantine. it is on one side of the scale.
Is.Who could get sick,already sick.Those workers go home and infect family.Though all are sitting at home and apply through relatives anyway.It is better to work to the hospital,and there he recovered and was back at work again.The fear of wolves in the woods not to go.A fever,stay home and get well
What's the use I in an empty subway went?What is the result?Nichrome.Still got sick .And mother-in-law and father-in-law,son,daughter,and wife all got sick.They were in the village,really.I'm single.And the complications we have in Russia is not because the disease is dangerous,but because the doctors do not from CT
Makes sense to wait until a degenerative idea of the liberal globalism will collapse completely.
In Opera, the bastards removed the last closed tabs, now uncomfortable, can't open the usual way the last closed tab.
Masha
Pneumonia is spreading.Not all people go into quarantine in the hospital, there is no such control, so that all put.And doctors do not all merge.And people contact
Hellhound_Anger
Problems in medicine began immediately after optimization.We in MO have been episodes when skurow I had to wait for 3 hours.
A CT scan was done in the Visible, but I do not have, only flyurografiya.
Even now with Sumamed pichalka
yesterday and today in order to refresh the memory a few times looked through Russian news channels.
and came to the conclusion, which I hope will share with me and readers of this post.
the propaganda pouring out of the TV, works perfectly on power in part of all sorts of savoring the genius of its decisions, the purpose of this power of internal and external enemies and vdalblivanie Russian layman exclusivity and uniqueness of the Russian world childishly helpless in communicating to their citizens the simple fact of the necessity to maintain the isolation for their own safety. exhortations and academic explanations of the need to observe quarantine don't work, require more stringent methods. and not only the police but also, it is propaganda.
easily, admirable for some months Russian propaganda has been able to make sookmyeong of the population, the mention of which is forbidden on NG Bandera-fascists, idiots don't know anything about the economy, nedostranoy without its own language and history under the control of the President of the criminal.
is it so difficult to at least once a day (it is important to start, and there will roll itself) to broadcast on TV a picture of the many victims COVID-19 with some horrible details, type of seizures, foam at the mouth, blackened skin or anything like that? in the end, in order to scare the layman (preferably to death) - SIT at HOME, JERK!!! (does not fit, kill!) you can hire actors, create the appropriate surroundings of the impending Apocalypse. in this case the result is important, not the means with which he achieved.
why heartbreaking stories about the crucified boys, brutally murdered civilians and other atrocities fantastic neighbors banderlogov considered quite normal for all the Federal channels and really need the terrible images of the victims of this chronotherapy missing?
my e scare so scare. times roll in the political arena, and ride in medical. the point is not tricky, mastered. the more people get scared and stay home, the better.
Hellhound_Anger
Hellhound_Anger wrote:
Have you waited for your announcer of poverty with the low prices of oil and gas, but killed the economy. And liberalism in the world has a cause and a consequence of development and a strong economy. Well done, the correct way to go. Give the owner the. After all, if liberalism you would plant, plowed, and did not justify their helplessness and poverty some sort of imaginary liberalism, which you never saw. Although surely saw, went to relax, be treated and go by cars of foreign, use the Internet, set free by the liberals. It is liberalism and its action of a free economy and encouraging creative and free individuals. Where's your will Cabernet on the passport? And on the way.
Oh...My God. I am increasingly convinced of the version that you are programlevel agent" (whatever that means) which aims to completely discredit liberalism by demonstrating the idiocy of his supporters. And if so, if it's macaronia, I am ready to applaud you
Hello wrote:
vdalblivanie Russian layman exclusivity and uniqueness of the Russian world
Exclusivity? And you can quote, which implies such a conclusion?
Hello wrote:
the purpose of this power of internal and external enemies
What do you think? Russia has neither external nor internal enemies?
Hello wrote:
for your own security. exhortations and academic explanations of the need to observe quarantine don't work, require more stringent methods. and not only the police but also, it is propaganda.
Same as above: you said it, but I don't know your attitude to this. You agree that the necessary measures of isolation, you support it or not?
If words can not explain, really have to use more persuasive methods.
Hello wrote:
under the office of the President a criminal.
What are the laws of the Russian Federation violated your President?
Hello wrote:
stories about the crucified boys
It again 8)
Hello wrote:
really need the terrible images of the victims of this chronotherapy missing?
Wait... staff? Footage of what? You compare information about banderlog, approx. But they also just write and say, virtually no frame, just text or words. The point of your comparison?
About the virus and its victims say every day, events in neighbouring countries now in the background.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
Exclusivity? And you can quote, which implies such a conclusion?
edrichesky Kolovrat, canned food interesting view of a demagogue?
the first thing that gave YouTube
heh, heh... in principle, this good there in bulk. other touches, the invisible hand of Moscow is so invisible that the Comments disabled is perceived as a tribute.
you can still see, as the leader of the people went to YouTube, a curious thing, 20 questions to Putin called... and here's the coincidence, and there is also the Comments disabled. why?
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
What do you think? Russia has neither external nor internal enemies?
heh, heh... of course, I knew that a careful reading of other people's comments - not the best feature of cans... but not to the same degree.
Hello wrote:
the propaganda pouring out of the TV, works perfectly on power in part of all sorts of savoring the genius of its decisions, the purpose of this power of internal and external enemies
once appointed, it means they are. our Indian more than competent in them, so will paint sho will be scary, yeah.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
What are the laws of the Russian Federation violated your President?
where? in a country forbidden to mention on a PG?
Hello wrote:
...within a month the Russian propaganda was able to make sookmyeong of the population, the mention of which is forbidden on NG Bandera-fascists, idiots don't know anything about the economy, nedostranoy without its own language and history under the control of the President of the criminal.
it is time to cry out: mother, zenk its open Shirshov and read Shaw's written there, not what you think!
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
It again 8)
the wonder of this fact so amazing that surely deserves the honorary title of honored piano in the bushes of the Russian Federation. of course, again and again. if we are so epically fucked up#ALIS, then why not gloat.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
Wait... staff? Footage of what?
well, my e... N a s T A N O V O H N S E, I wrote.
Hello wrote:
in the end, in order to scare the layman (preferably to death) - SIT at HOME, JERK!!! (does not fit, kill!) you can hire actors to create appropriate surroundings
I have the feeling that the oxygen in the tin is completely consumed, in consequence of which its inhabitants hallucinations.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
You compare information about banderlog, approx. But they also just write and say, virtually no frame, just text or words.
heh, heh... well, finally our canned deign to notice the obvious
fibbers grinding, sho fool with the mountains to roll
aground Emelya, your week
different grinds, Yes, nobody believes him...
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
The point of your comparison?
and it needs to be? the demagogue? however again own inattention played a cruel joke with our sprats in tomato sauce.
I stressed the point, that came, maybe.... I have absolutely not sure.
Hello wrote:
my e scare so scare. times roll in the political arena, and ride in medical. the point is not tricky, mastered. the more people get scared and stay home, the better.
here is one of two or inhabitant of the cans do not far away in their own development from fish Guppies, or just can't read. heh, heh... and the one who reads him the comments great original part in the banter on our Baltic sprat.
A. Soldier of Light
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
Russia has neither external nor internal enemies?
Of course not. There is only friendly to the West who wants to hold hands and dance with everyone. But the damn Russians resist...this is ugly...
Hello
Hello wrote:
exclusivity and uniqueness of the Russian world
This is, unfortunately, the terrible truth
Gauguin wrote:
This is, unfortunately, the terrible truth
probably for the Czechs, Germans, poles, Romanians... well, all those exceptional Russian world freed from Hitler and then almost half a century kept under his boot, in fact the terrible truth.
North and South Korea, one of Korea lucky to be on the side of the Russian world and still remain in the socialist Paradise, under control of Communist Kim dynasty.
the other, the South was less fortunate. shelter of the damned Yankees brought the country to the extreme, forcing us to produce and sell, probably, from a hopelessness around the globe with quality and cheap cars, electronics, technology and so on.
country. forbidden to mention on a PG, that's strange, too, shy away from the Russian world and its exclusivity like the plague and wants to Garou (so you think Russian patriots called Europe).
what makes Russian world on its taxpayers ' money in Syria? looking for its exclusivity, and at the same time the lamp of Aladdin?
unfortunately, the terrible truth... right unknown nick-name, yeah. so Perez#atsya with the world still need to be able. and this is the terrible truth for the Russian