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Barnad 15.05.20 02:33 pm

What fraction of the optimal (Fallout 4)

Hi all! If who faced a choice which faction to choose, from a moral point of view, I will explain why I chose the Institute.
The player is put in a narrow frame, and in these conditions it is difficult to make a choice. But any faction that would oppose the institution, destroy the scientists, and a unique technology that can help people to survive and restore civilization. I'm still in the game and not really figured out whether the Institute kills people and replaces them with synths for some purposes. Initially I was against the Institute due to such rumors and simply due to the fact that synths are in I just shot. Via Subway got into the Institute, became its head... And here it is all cleared up! If I'm head of the Institute, I can change its overall policy, etc. - At least so in reality. As for the game, I don't know. But, in General, as the head of the Institute (just logically) can deny all immoral and problematic activity academic departments, to ban the creation of synthetics for 3 generations, and to limit the creation of robots for the needs of people. And all the scientific potential to direct the restoration of the environment, to help the survivors on the surface, on the treatment of victims.
In the game, perhaps to a level of detail will not come, but in this game it is limited. And I, as a player, make a choice in accordance with logic and morality. And so I chose the Institute. Because without science, civilization does not recover.
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Sir Doctor of TARDIS 15.05.20

Correct almost nine months that he chose the Institute if you think it is possible in the fifth part will be upominanie about what is happening in the Commonwealth ostaetsya only dogadyvatsya what will happen next and to solve Bethesda but I can guess that can all be good well zapretit unlikely all of this is possible because the Institute gives quests debut me or the raiders grabbed a synth and it must be free and synths are 3rd acadenia useful they can track enemies like a Terminator T800

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longerr2007 15.05.20

Sir Doctor of TARDIS
Will be part 5?

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saa0891 15.05.20

Barnad wrote:
Hi all! If who faced a choice which faction to choose, from a moral point of view, I will explain why I chose the Institute.
But any faction that would oppose the institution, destroy the scientists, and a unique technology that can help people to survive and restore civilization. I'm still in the game and not really figured out whether the Institute kills people and replaces them with synths for some purposes.
If we use your approach,I don't understand how the Institute can be regarded as the normal fraction from a moral point of view,buried under the earth,kidnap people and replace them with synths (I'm not talking how it affects the psychological condition all around,many people have a paranoia against this background,a lot of stories from the NPCs you can hear),attack the settlement,moreover, they generally destroy any living creatures,in the game you can see how the synths are killing cats same BS at least try to bring at least some kind of order clearing of wasteland from raiders and mutants,the Minutemen lack the resources and technologies that would really withstand all threats,subway makes no sense to even consider those quite frostbitten on saving synths.

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Sir Doctor of TARDIS 15.05.20

longerr2007
In the future maybe a year or two or three if more will be released

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Barnad 15.05.20

saa0891
Because it's not in what was done to the Institute, and that the player is now the head of the Institute with all its scientific power, and after that the Institute will do something only with the approval of his Chapter, that is, the player. That is the player stands at the head of the Institute, I immediately like switch maps, circumstances change. And it becomes in favor of the Institute and from a moral point of view, and strategic for humanity.

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RikoChiko 15.05.20

Sir Doctor of TARDIS
10.
The Arbor now Tes 6 and Skyfield priority.

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puumar 15.05.20

Barnad wrote:
Because it's not in what was done to the Institute, and that the player is now the head of the Institute with all its scientific power, and after that the Institute will do something only with the approval of his Chapter, that is, the player.
Yeah, I remember heard this from prohodivyshih for Yes-man. ))

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Barnad 15.05.20

puumar
I do not understand, about what speech.
I mean that we make a decision in the game, as in life. But the game is limited, and the game itself is not disclosed, as the head can radically change Institute. But the decision, as in life. And if you make a decision, as in life, the Institute is important, it is possible to correct all past mistakes and bring so much good to people, do not give any one faction. The same Stripping from aggressive mutants, and raiders can be passed on to robots.

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puumar 15.05.20

Barnad wrote:
and the game itself is not disclosed
There all is revealed. In the story from the beginning of the game you palm off the Minutemen, then meet BS that would go with them to build a teleporter because technology only from them, and then the subway something to break the codes of hunter-synth. This continue in the next game.
Then the moral side, during the game not once say that the world has changed. And even in the end say it. Institute a relic of the past, who is trying to regain past world, and that is not possible. The last world was destroyed, no States, no production, transporternyh networking, no nothing from the past. Around radiation and mutants, the FEV virus and so on. The same job at a Large plant Łukowski demonstrates that. Teddy tried to run the old belt and what came of it. The pipeline necessary resources around the clock, and where to take them in a broken world, and how to continuously deliver around the clock. Castel and the main moral of the game that the old world is dead, and it already does not come back, and about the same reads the ending of the game.

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Barnad 15.05.20

puumar
Yes, the old world will not return. But you can build a new world. And to build the appropriate fraction is an institution that gives hope. If they got to the teleportation, then, will deal with radiation. Or give people a tolerance to it.
In short, from a moral point of view, the Institute is the most suitable faction for the ending. From the point of view of playability is another question, and I'm not here to date.

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puumar 15.05.20

Sir Doctor of TARDIS
Yes, a new world under new conditions and the old terms left. Those who live on the surface for the new world have adapted over 200 years, they have developed an immunity and so forth And those who live under the ground, the remnants of the old world, in shelters and in the Institute, to the new world does not fit. Trying to grow vegetables without radiation and so on. They have to either adapt to the new world, or quietly die. Nate just accelerates this process, they have themselves to blame.

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saa0891 15.05.20

Barnad
You describe your fantasies,I wrote how it is served and shown in the game,in any case, even if we accept your fantasy I don't understand what moral is there to say bluntly that the Institute has more advanced technology than the BS so it is to morality does not have any relationship.

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Barnad 15.05.20

saa0891
This is a fantasy, because the game can't provide. Ideally, all should be kept alive, simply to unite under the overall guidance of: BS is the army force structure; Institute of science; Subway - raging green or defenders of animals, like that. We play, fantasizing. So my fantasies of place.
And the lesson here is that more advanced technology is in good hands will bring more benefits and kindness to people than just good hands without technology.

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puumar 15.05.20

Barnad wrote:
And the lesson here is that more advanced technology is in good hands will bring more benefits and good people
And what sense in the current environment from the old technology? Institute them and trying to apply. Apart from the fact that they are trying to replace people on the surface of the synths, they are still the old fauna want to restore in the same mechanical way. Sick in the head. xD)
And in fact, instite is quite sensible that everybody understands. For example, the Bureau of robocopters, which bypass all this buffoonery the quiet stupid haggling synths, and with the help of the Subway itself without knowing it. Talk the old man of Stockton, he to you in detail about the product will tell.
Old technology similarly have no sense. How are you going to establish a production, or the same raspornye line? Running the same Deathclaw or Behemoth, and Khan your production. And with this you can not do anything, because it's a new fauna in the new world,they breed constantly.

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Barnad 15.05.20

puumar
It's an interesting thought. But the potential of the fitness of the survivors does not change. But, on the contrary, increases the possibilities of the Institute. For example, scientists can use the fitness of the survivors on the surface to create a kind of vaccine that ordinary people could pass the 200-year path of adjustment to radiation in one shot, etc.

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Barnad 15.05.20

puumar
As for the replacement of the fauna on the synthetic animals in the game I have clear plans not found. I already wrote that standing at the head of the Institute to change its policy. For example, synthetic animal use only for zoos. Production synths 3 generations to stop to address the issue: they live with free will or just the car. And so on all issues. All the sins of the previous Institute are meaningless after he starts to lead the player.

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Barnad 15.05.20

puumar Running the same Deathclaw or Behemoth, and Khan your production. And with this you can not do anything, because it's a new fauna in the new world,they breed constantly
To establish industries far away. New fauna jostle, as in natural conditions, bred people. But first they show the fauna of his teeth that people feared. In life, for example, people helped a firearm. So they are reduced to a safe size of habitat, for example, wolves. In the game this firearms can be a team of robots to sweep areas.

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puumar 15.05.20

Barnad wrote:
in the game I have clear plans not found.
When you go to the Institute talk to the staff bio Manager, they will show you the synths-gorillas and talk about plans.
Barnad wrote:
All the sins of the previous Institute are meaningless after
The existence of the institution does not make sense, because the old technology does not make sense. People make weapons out of junk, because there is no mass production. Even BS technology only collects what they produce themselves, is doing exactly the same from discarded junk. You say the vaccine, it takes massive, global production, and where you take it. Even if you build a plant you will supply, how to collect the goods, the terms mutant laiout that it will be only joy. ))
What good is technology if you can't produce and sell. We need new approaches, and new technologies, under the circumstances.. not the old who are useless.

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Barnad 15.05.20

puumar wrote:
You say the vaccine, it takes massive, global production, and where you take it.
No need to think the old standards. Mass global production needs for the modern world with 7 billion inhabitants. For those people in the game enough to start a small production, which is possible, because the settlements exist.
puumar wrote:
We need new approaches, and new technologies, under the circumstances.. not the old who are useless.
What is the difference between the old approaches and technology from new? The use of robots in dangerous situations is a new or old approach?