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Corydoras 15.10.19 03:20 am

Passive play. The rules of Fair PvP (draft) (Diablo 2)

Under passive game (hereinafter - liabilities) it is understood the player's actions to intentional or unintentional avoidance of injury, with the aim of delaying the end of the round for further rounds at a lower location, with the attacking action of the player is significantly inferior to attack his opponent.
This definition fit the actions of the player with minimum number of remaining health, which exclude the possibility of obtaining and/or damage of the enemy(the enemy).
Under the offence means the reduction of distance for the focused attack (causing damage) to the enemy and targeted for attack by the attacker to the enemy.
Liability cannot be attributed to the player who uses the spell teleport.
Moderator fair have forfeited the round, the player whose actions fit the definition of passive game".
By mutual consent, the players from the beginning can carry out a duel at the location of Valley of snakes.
These rules are still in draft status (draft). Discussion, suggestions in comments.

Added: it is Forbidden to use at home, wall ledges, rocks and trees as cover.
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Smetanka dlya firka 15.10.19

Better to do without rigid definitions, it will be the cause of the dispute that you will get tired to decide, and to a greater extent on the discretion of the moderator.
But in this situation, the moderator needs to be really experienced. There is a suspicion that not very experienced moderators will interpret this incorrectly.
For example, there is a duel where both opponents with a teleport, but the attaker there is only one. So in all duels with a bunch of attacks there barb, not his. Same with the assassins, with the exception of duel with a barb, sin attacking character in all duels, except the duel with the barb. Druid attaker in all battles except duels with barb and sin. And so on, many examples.

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Shaka_podorojala 15.10.19

Dober in all duels the passive character, and CHiha his attaker

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yok0o 15.10.19

See the situation:
Hammer, the Enigma just runs around in circles and spam invite, passive?
Amazon (say, the Enigma) escapes and fires back, passive?
Asya is sitting in the stairways, passive?
Druid flies from ASI, passive?
Necr flies away from the druid and spam trams, passive?
All fly away from the beaver, a liability?
Eska flies away from everyone and Regent mana passive?
Close fly and spam invite, passive?
Smiter is on shift and clamps nick opponent is passive?
Who podgo is emitted from the 174 ASI, passive?
If in all these cases, someone flies on low HP, but not to delay time, but to randomly sasamat, this is a violation according to your formulation?

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Eleganza 15.10.19

Corydoras wrote:
This definition fit the actions of the player with minimum number of remaining health
First, it is impossible to track the HP of both players. It should be the host and run either party. A party under the current rules a player is not obliged to give.
Secondly, the passive is quite on full HP. When the beaver stands in Eni lipet on the spot. Or traps enters the house, sets traps and waits for its Eska loknet. Both case study on matchdays, was not invented xD

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firkax 15.10.19

houses of the same kind is prohibited

and against liability a long time ago there was a rule about arreat, etc., don't know who didn't like it

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Corydoras 15.10.19

yok0o
No, the above is not a passive, if not active attack from the side of the opponent. Take the hammer against the necromancer. If the paladin turns hammers, runs for desynchronization from time to time reduces the distance of no liability, regardless of is attacking the necromancer or not. But in the case when the paladin runs away from the necromancer, who continually flies for a paladin, making Loki (not random) and so it goes for 3 minutes and the paladin remains a small amount of health, then this game is for the paladin can be called passive.
Eleganza
Or will have to give the host moderator to monitor the health, or in the best case there will be a message player1 has less than 10% hp for example. Missed the moment when hide-and-seek in homes, shelters were sanctioned and why not make the ban. Lip barbarian not considered an attacking action, and the enemy is not obliged to attack.
But in General, I think, the essence of the main rules is to exclude a situation when the player flies away to regen at low health, as it was recently in a tournament when playing as the assassin.

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Eleganza 15.10.19

firkax
Was forbidden, but the rule was missed. With the previous admin had discussed the return and generally much about antipassive, but he's not live xD
Corydoras
If the problem, for example, in certain duels (Asya), it may reduce the time limit before the snakes?
In General, I think there are rules specifically all you will not describe, it is necessary to use individual approach. Of course the esk will fly from a beaver\poison AMCI, as after 1 strike will be at 1 HP. Much depends on BO, since some due to MP will not be able non stop for 3 minutes to fly behind Sorka. The same esk, it may be logical to retreat, leaving the MB, and maybe even the map does not appear, hoping for invite (which is passive).

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yok0o 15.10.19

I described all the situation of standard practices. And Yes, in each case passiveco actively attacking the opponent. 90% of PG play style - passive spamming... Banned by the rules?)
Generally this must be done otherwise, as I wrote earlier, but the former admin pvp was more interesting to throw participants in your tournament)

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Corydoras 15.10.19

Under the concept of liability can obviously be attributed to the duel, where, for example, the first 50% of the time a player has less than 10% health and the second 50% of the player passivity and deliberately waiting for a time to recover health and go to the snakes.

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Smetanka dlya firka 15.10.19

firkax
No one bothers to passivity on the arreat serpents, and so on. Change of location rarely actually affects something.
Liabilities need to fight fighting it, not encouraging.

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Smetanka dlya firka 15.10.19

Corydoras
Under the concept of liability cannot be attributed to any numbers. Liability is a strategy game, no amount of anything will not be affected, as the wording is vague.

The best way to deal with the liability to make such rules of the game in which the need liability would be reduced to a minimum. That is, to make large changes to rules regarding limits.
The man who 10 years playing defensive spams missile followed TS from the rival for all the Persians as Pira for example, will always find a way to circumvent the language prohibiting liability. But if he will be able to play more active without the risk of randomly dying - then there are chances to raise the level of the player to a level where the liability is not needed to win.

Or just need an experienced and groping modernizing that will be punished for liability based on their ideas about the game, this is the main task of Modera, to do what automation cannot.
But if the second option is the problem, the first looks better.

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yok0o 15.10.19

Corydoras
Ie passive it is only when the player passiva 50% of the time, and then he left with 10% HP and he passifit next? And if the player wants to arreat before and will passivity with 11% HP? And if you will passivity of esk with full HP but no mana?
But if a player has less than 10% HP, then he's actively playing Regent yourself another 1% HP, he can begin to passivity 11?
And how did the moderator needs to follow the movements of players on the map? I've personally always opposed to modernization ran at me because he always interferes and distracts...
As in the previous post is a fast examples, distribute a couple of minute break ( all OFC common practice). What happens if you dig a little deeper?)

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Smetanka dlya firka 15.10.19

Put lo that this is another of ludoteka does not end.

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Grinaaa Morningstar 15.10.19

The new admin wants everything at once, but why? To start make changes in moderator functionality and make the observer mod for users. Will spectator mod - you can think about the rules of antipassive.

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yok0o 15.10.19

New admin exactly like the old just wants to chat)

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Eleganza 15.10.19

Return the rule banning AFK seat over obstacles (houses) and give moder pati\host if he asks. This is the maximum that can now be done by hand. Modernization will make comments malicious passivism.

They themselves wrote that the passive game play style. Software (and how it would look?) it generally should not touch. If such usefulness as cut cuts from the side of the server.

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CONFLICT-OFFICIAL 15.10.19

A feeling as if something on PG 30 pvp players non-stop play and half of them are passivity...

Play as years played and all. Also my problem. Due to a couple of people who do not play, even to invent something.

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Smetanka dlya firka 15.10.19

Someone wrote on the case.
On the pvp server playing 5 people and some random dude on the forum diligently decide on what rules they play)))
Not to address issues that will increase the number of players, eh.

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Grinaaa Morningstar 15.10.19

Dober
do tournaments with cash prizes, what are you, a billionaire the same.

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Smetanka dlya firka 15.10.19

Grenaa Morningstar
By the way I have suggested alero to hold events with my Donati in the amount of $ 100, but there needed him.
I have probably tried everything to revive this place, but the administration stubbornly continues to sink ships.