Kapitsa S. P.
Posner, Ernst and destroyed the transmission Kapitsa.The text"...the First channel demanded that I, at first, denounced the Soviet science and, second, has not objected to any pseudoscience. I refused categorically. Then I got kicked out"
Just put the question bluntly?
- So. Cynical they were.
- Young people who came to TV?
- Yes, new management. What were political attitudes, you can see the results of their activities. It is an intellectual defeat of Russia. The only way I can characterize their activities can't.
- Well, Yes, because your transfer has not been politicized.
- I did not serve, either then or today to anyone except the interests of business. I was impartial to everything. Although it was the higher range of our propaganda and approved at the highest level. [...]
- Who was the generator of ideas, the Genesis of a new transmission?
- A generator of ideas... it just happens. I never knew the rejection of his fellow scientists were all ready to help. Always had the feeling that need to tell. The main task is to find the right person. Would have been a good man - will be a good transfer. [...]
- Did your professional path working on "unbelievable"?
- When I started these programs in 1973, a very pleasant academician Lev Artsimovich said to me: "you Know, Sergey, if you're going to do this, they will put an end to an academic career. No matter what you do you will not forgive". And so it proved. [...]
- The broadcasters should be accountable to the society?
- The subject of responsibility, I think is very significant, one of the main. Freedom must be limited liability. But our intelligentsia does not understand, it would destroy her. And the General theme of responsibility is one key in today's world.
- You have unusual for our TV it said that at the end of the XIX century.
I was told as if the experts thin that my Russian and English is imperfect, they interfere.
- You against the rest certainly stand out. TV bosses it's probably annoying...
- Probably, were allocated. But somehow it is accepted. Importantly, it was accepted. Was sometimes small amendments to the pronunciation of some words, etc. it all comes from my ancestors: my father was a very prominent scientist of world-class mother was also a very educated woman, grandfather Alexei Nikolaevich Krylov, a famous mathematician and shipbuilder.
- How do you feel about English newspape? Bi-bi-si, after all, does a lot of movies...
- I think this is a positive thing, very positive. First of all it is profitable. And politically, as they say, they really do it properly.
- And from the point of view of scientific quality?
Movies of Bi-bi-si shallow - they are rather superficial and makes it simpler.
- Your transmission was deeper?
- Bi-bi-si rarely uses in the programs of major scientists. And in our programs, I think, in General, were larger people. And they spoke specifically on the merits of the issues of science and society.
- You basically discussion, and they visuality?
- Yes, we have a discussion, and they have a visual and educational activities. It is also very important and necessary, but several other methods, different address and different characters.
And the Discovery channel are You looking at?
- Sometimes look. Very solidly. Professional things done in a different way, a different purpose is pursued, it is also necessary. I was in the Boston Studio in America. It is a clone of the tradition of Bi-bi-si. I don't even know there is a Studio now or not. I haven't seen her lately... Carl Sagan (American astronomer, astrophysicist, science popularizer) - this was a major personality on television, worked on the creation of the popular science television series, in particular - the series "Cosmos". The art historian Kenneth Clark was another series - "Nudity in art", a world history of art. Invited major personalities who spoke of his view of the history of art. Ranging from Ancient Egypt to the present day. The Impressionists had been unacceptable.
- Some of your traditions in its own way developed, it seems that Alexander Gordon's "Night talk".
- He is a talented person. But he didn't know what he was talking about. Therefore, invited always the two that was able to pit. And then he was able to rise above them is such a method. Besides, the person he was a minor.
- How to understand what the audience like the show?
- You listen to what you tell friends and foes. And then there is some kind of opinion. Self-criticism should be. But it is dependent on the creative team that exists. Earlier there was a correspondence on the gear, it is very carefully monitored, instead of rating it, by the way. Unfortunately, the Russian television Academy did not become such a body that would somehow discuss everything outside of party interests. And this is very important. For example, before the "taffy" would be transformed into this... essentially, in the reign of the same class. I have not received any of the award "TEFI". Just last year in 2008, when he left Vladimir Pozner, I was given the award "For personal contribution to development of Russian television".
Noam Chomsky: "10 tricks with which they control the masses"
Спойлер1. Distraction. The main element of social control is to distract people's attention from important issues and decisions of the political and economic ruling circles, through the constant of saturation of the information space minor messages. A welcome distraction rather essential in order not to give the citizens the opportunity to get important knowledge in the field of modern philosophical trends, cutting-edge science, Economics, psychology, neurobiology and Cybernetics. Instead, the information space is filled with news of sport, show business, mystics and other information which are based on human instincts relic from erotic to hard pornography and soap from domestic scenes to the questionable ways easy and quick profit.
2. Problem — reaction — solution. It creates a problem, a "situation" intended to cause a reaction among the population so that it is itself required the adoption of measures necessary to the establishment. For example, to prevent the spiral of violence in the cities or to organize bloody terrorist attacks to citizens demanded the adoption of laws on strengthening of security measures and policies that infringe upon civil liberties. Or cause some economic, terrorist or man-made crisis to force people into his mind to take measures to eliminate its consequences, albeit in violation of their social rights as "a necessary evil". But you need to understand that the crises themselves are not born.
3. Gradualism. To achieve the adoption of any unpopular measures, it is enough to introduce it gradually, day after day, year after year. This had been globally imposed radically new socioeconomic conditions (neoliberalism) in the 1980s and 1990-ies. Minimizing functions of the state, privatization, insecurity, instability, mass unemployment, wages that already do not provide a decent life. If all this happened at the same time, it probably would have led to revolution.
4. A stay of execution. Another way to push through unpopular decision is to present it as "painful and necessary" and to achieve at the moment the consent of citizens for its implementation in the future. It is much easier to agree to any victims in the future than in the present.
First, because it does not happen immediately. Second, because the people in the mass are always inclined to cherish the naive hope that "tomorrow everything will change for the better" and that the sacrifices which we require, can be avoided. It provides citizens with more time to get used to the idea of change and humbly accept them when the time comes.
5. The infantilization of the people. In most propaganda speeches designed for a wide public, using such arguments, characters, words and intonation, as if we are talking about children of school age with a delay in development or mentally disabled individuals. The stronger someone is trying to mislead the listener, the more he tries to use infantile speech turns. Why? If someone speaks to man as if he is 12 years old, due to suggestibility, in response or reaction to this man also will be missing a critical evaluation that is characteristic of children.
6. Focus on emotions. Impact on emotions is a classic technique of neuro-linguistic programming, aims to block the ability of people to rational analysis, but in the end — even to the ability of critical thinking occurring. On the other hand, the use of emotional factor allows you to open the door to the subconscious in order to implement there thoughts, desires, fears, concerns, coercion or sustainable behaviors. Forget about how cruel terrorism as unjust power, the suffering of hungry and humiliated left overs its true causes. Emotion is the enemy of logic.
7. Mental debilitation of the population. An important strategy is to ensure that people become unable to understand the tools and techniques used to manage them and submission to their will. The quality of education provided by the lower social classes must be mediocre, for the ignorance that separates the lower from the higher social classes, remained at a level that can overcome the lower classes.
8. Fashion promotion for mediocrity. Authorities are trying to introduce the idea that it is fashionable to be stupid, vulgar and rude. This method is inextricably linked with the previous one, since all of the mediocre in the modern world, appears in large quantities in all social spheres — from religion and science to art and politics. Scandals, yellow Newspapers, sorcery and magic, questionable humor and a populist action — all this is useful to achieve one goal: not to allow people to have the opportunity to expand their minds to the endless expanse of the real world.
9. The cultivation of guilt. Another challenge is to get people to believe that only he is responsible for his own misfortunes that occur due to lack of his mental capabilities, abilities or efforts. In the result, instead of rebelling against the economic system, the person begins to engage in self-abasement, blaming himself, which causes depression, resulting in, among other things, to inaction.
10. Excellent knowledge of human nature. Over the past 50 years, advances in science have resulted in a growing gap between the knowledge of ordinary people and the information that you have and use the ruling classes. Thanks to biology, neurobiology and applied psychology, the system has at its disposal advanced knowledge in the field of both physiology and psychology. The system was able to learn about the common man more than he knows about himself. This means that in most cases the system has more power and more control people than themselves.
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Follower Perelman
Beware of those who want to impute You a sense of guilt, because they crave power over You.(C) Confucius.
Follower Perelman
It has long been known from Roman law, how to control the masses.
By the way, the same current patricians lead the education and teaching of their offspring by the old rules and laws.While the plebeians talking about the freedom of the individual child and less in terms of training and education.
Nevoeiro wrote:
inasne patricians lead the education and teaching of their offspring by the old rules and laws.
that, too, in Oksvordy and Harvard?
Nevoeiro wrote:
"...The first channel demanded that I, at first, denounced the Soviet science and, second, has not objected to any pseudoscience. I refused categorically. Then I got kicked out"
Well, Yes, but then all sorts of the battle of psychics appeared and became very popular 8) Pechalka.
Nevoeiro wrote:
It has long been known from Roman law, how to control the masses.
The problem is, to whom and as it is known 8) Masses it may be and do not know how else to explain the popularity of bullshit like the battle of psychics?..
Follower Perelman wrote:
Noam Chomsky: "10 tricks with which they control the masses"
1) Distraction.
USA: Russia's intervention in the elections, a hacker attack of Russian, Russia's violation of such and such rules, regulations, laws, etc.
Russia: the eternal discussion of the problems of other countries (mostly Ukraine), instead of discussing internal issues.
2) Problem – reaction – solution create the problem in society.
USA: a Prime example is a terrorist attack 911. Furthermore, there were terrorist attacks, but with the help of the first paragraph can be supplemented with a second ;]
Russia: not sure. Asking friends from the forum to paint examples ;] Know YOU can do it! )
3) and 4) can be combined. Gradually and with delay.
Examples real not remember, but the hypothetical is easy: chipizatsiya population ^_^ Will be to explain to the public how it is *comfortable* and *for security purposes* and so La-La.
5) the Infantilization of the people: many are so willing to follow windbags with loud slogans, this is clearly seen on the example of the same torchlight procession (a flock of sheep, I swear).
Follower Perelman wrote:
6) Focus on emotions. Impact on emotions is a classic technique of neuro-linguistic programming
The classic technique of demagoguery, is to correct ?
They say, free the children! and other such slogans that should put pressure on the emotions. Out Trump whispered in your ear about him.attack, and he made the decision as a naive little boy that does not understand the question )
It is a cheap methods of demagogy, such as the reception in style but you hawthorn grass! or you have a pension, so-and-so!. Kindergarten, and not debate it.
Follower Perelman wrote:
Forget about how cruel terrorism as unjust power, the suffering of hungry and humiliated left overs its true causes. Emotion is the enemy of logic.
+1 totally agree.
7) mental debilitation of the population. If you believe the Russian media, for example, bright suits Ukraine. However, according to individual experts, in Russia itself the process is long running and the exam is part of the process. Like it or not I don't know, but YOU forum, tell me, isn't it? ;]
Follower Perelman wrote:
8. Fashion promotion for mediocrity. Authorities are trying to introduce the idea that it is fashionable to be stupid, vulgar and rude.
idiocracy )Read the description of the story: Idiocracy (2005)
Corporal Joe Bowers, the Pentagon chooses to participate in a top-secret hibernation program for the people. After a dormant five years, he wakes up and gets in a civilization where human intellectual level far below that which he possesses. In the end, Joe is the smartest person on the planet...
9) Cultivation of feelings of guilt.
In the United States do not recall. There is the contrary: they are the best in the world, they won WW2 and so on =]
In Russia, there are: fault occupation svetskih former republics. Oh yeah, close the topic, but the stupidity of the argument exceeds the limit ^_^
Everything comes to a logical conclusion is another attempt to create a secure humanity, the mental debilitation of the population by the government (as a method), the degradation, the global catastrophe, the destruction of mankind, and then the modernization of man and a new round of evolution. This experiment continued for more than 200 thousand earth years, and while no final decision. Now the beginning of a new era in the 1800s. Based on the results of previous attempts, it should be better.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
9) Cultivation of feelings of guilt.
In the United States do not recall.
There is also a sense of guilt towards blacks for what they held in slavery.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
7) mental debilitation of the population.
Here and for example not far to seek. Enough here in the forums and comments to read. Very illiterate people write. Yes, and on the websites of the media began to notice the error.
Science is a great evil. The main thing is the spiritual ties, so we need to build more temples. And science is so ... demonic. So Kapitza and pass.
Nevoeiro wrote:
You're for example watching movies that do not create in the brain the mental process, the brain is resting.
Alas, the analogy doesn't work. Movies are fiction, but the Battle is presented as a documentary, the facts, and the people there (and their problems) very real, not invented.
Nevoeiro wrote:
In the US the Creator of use-Invar Johnson has denounced the accusations against him is that he and his exam did two generations of idiotsSince 2012, the United States was completely abolished grade system of knowledge, introduced in the 1980s in books by Johnson. Such cases. We have this thing blooms.
Reminds of another topic: electronic voting. We in Estonia are proud of it, even though the U.S. abolished long ago. Apparently, to learn from the mistakes of others can neither have you nor us =]
antonrogov wrote:
There is also a sense of guilt towards blacks for what they held in slavery.
Yes, but it's a double standard: before the black guilt, the Indians – no.
A. Soldier of Light
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
Alas, the analogy doesn't work. Movies are fiction, but the Battle is presented as a documentary, the facts, and the people there (and their problems) very real, not invented.
So about that and speech that can be all that skeptical to perceive or not to perceive at all, science is the same a whole slew of unimaginable hypotheses offers.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
Reminds of another topic: electronic voting. We in Estonia are proud of it, even though the U.S. abolished long ago. Apparently, to learn from the mistakes of others can neither have you nor us =]
And not only in Estonia is still practiced in some countries the rest of Europe. E-this is it.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
Yes, but it's a double standard: before the black guilt, the Indians – no
heh, heh... that's the opinion of a Negro or red Indian savage?
I believe the root of the rednecks will laugh if you tell them that they should feel guilty about anyone... no matter to whom.
fuck you, it is reasonable to ask they. only one is enough these savages favored the white man - and both opened welcoming arms of Christ. this is not enough?
Spoilerroom the blacks in jail (or shoot Maleh), the Comanche on a reservation (they also, incidentally Mona Troshkov to shoot).
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
many are so willing to follow windbags with loud slogans, this is clearly seen on the example of the same torchlight procession
So, I don't understand, you're not against drug traffickers and migrant workers?
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
Yes, but it's a double standard: before the black guilt, the Indians – no.
Triple. There infa that there a long time ago one time and white people were in slavery
RussianQuaker wrote:
So, I don't understand, you're not against drug traffickers and migrant workers?
Lol. And now explain what this has to do with my negative attitude to torchlight procession? ^_^
Yes, of course I'm against the drug traders and gastrikov that take jobs. But I am against those tuparí language that go in a torchlight procession as a flock of sheep. This savagery, a relic of the past.
A. Soldier of Light
Well, like they mean things like, what's wrong with that. Or do you want it, instead of torches they had impaled on sticks the heads of the workers? :)
In fact. We have what we have: now actively oppose such a poison that is those who refer to NS-Germany. This, too, has his reasons.
RussianQuaker wrote:
Or do you want it, instead of torches they had impaled on sticks the heads of the workers? :)
Well, why so soon? 8)
The problem gastrikov clear: blame those that create the demand for them, and it is the employers that want to pay less to workers, and the local (white Russian) you have to pay more, here nachalnichki and save. Correct me if I'm wrong ) And it is a pity that this problem confront nationalists, Nazis, fascists, there are all sorts etc, but nothing changes. The use of rallies, it turns out, not at all. I wonder what would be the point?...