Nazism and nationalism. Is there a difference?

stalker7162534 wrote:
What is the difference between Nazism and nationalism?
Actually huge.
Nazism - the ideology according to which a particular nation is more advanced in relation to others and it pursues the establishment of a racial hierarchy or even the destruction of other people on racial grounds.
Nationalism - the pursuit of the interests of a particular nation, his nation.
The first may be part of the second of course, but to confuse these concepts is not necessary.
stalker7162534 wrote:
About nationalism which is nonsense.
Read the definition at least in Wikipedia, then to distinguish between concepts and do not talk such nonsense.
stalker7162534 wrote:
Will it differ from patriotism, work for the good of the country?
No, it's not. But this is more ideology at the state level, not at the level of a particular person.
stalker7162534 wrote:
Will he pursue the interests of the Tatars, Chukchi, Chuvash,
No. Why? Let them pursue the interests of their state.

Gauguin wrote:
Will he pursue the interests of the Tatars, Chukchi, Chuvash,
No. Why? Let them pursue the interests of their state.
wtf?
Gauguin wrote:
Well, Yes, indeed. What to know the definitions when you can just sniff and say well, you never know.
You ask for definitions? They have me. As they say in Odessa.
of nationalism, more. no, M. (polit.). Bourgeois ideology and policies of their own, the dominant nation in a privileged position and aimed at the oppression of other nationalities, to create enmity between them. Marxism puts into place all forms of nationalism - internationalism... Lenin. The principle of bourgeois nationalism - the development of nationality in General, hence the exclusiveness of bourgeois nationalism, hence the desperate national bickering. Lenin. The deviation towards nationalism is the adaptation of the internationalist policy of the working class to the nationalist policy of the bourgeoisie. The deviation towards nationalism reflects the attempts of their, national bourgeoisie to undermine the Soviet system and restore capitalism. Stalin.
the dictionary Ushakov. http://enc-dic.com/ushakov/Nacionalizm-34408.html
Gauguin wrote:
Spare me the leftist bullshit.
Okay, go and read the bourgeoisie
nationalism
1.spirit or aspirations common to the whole of a nation.
2.devotion and loyalty to one's own country; patriotism.
3.excessive patriotism; chauvinism.
4.the desire for national advancement or political independence.
5.the policy or doctrine of asserting the interests of one's own nation viewed as separate from the interests of other nations or the common interests of all nations.
6.an idiom or trait peculiar to a nation.
7.a movement, as in the arts, based upon the folk idioms, history, aspirations, etc., of a nation.

3.excessive patriotism, chauvinism.
5.the policy or doctrine of asserting the interests of their own nation viewed as separate from the interests of other countries or the common interests of all peoples.

Take another dictionary
Nationalism is the belief that your own country is better than all others. Sometimes nationalism makes people not want to work with other countries to solve shared problems.
It is important not to confuse nationalism with patriotism. Patriotism is a healthy pride in your country that brings about feelings of loyalty and a desire to help other citizens. Nationalism is the belief that your country is superior, without question or doubt. In some cases, nationalism can inspire people to break free of a foreign oppressor, as in the American Revolution, but nationalism can also lead a country to cut itself off from the rest of the world.
Nationalism is the belief that your own country is better than everyone else. Sometimes nationalism makes people not want to work with other countries to solve shared problems.
It is important not to confuse nationalism with patriotism. Patriotism is a healthy pride in your country that causes a sense of loyalty and desire to help other citizens. Nationalism is the belief that your country is superior, without question and doubt. In some cases, nationalism can inspire people to free themselves from a foreign oppressor, as in the American revolution, but nationalism may also lead the country to cut itself off from the rest of the world.

stalker7162534
stalker7162534 wrote:
the policy or doctrine of asserting the interests of one's own nation viewed as separate from the interests of other nations or the common interests of all nations.
Here is a great definition.

Gauguin
Gauguin wrote:
Here is a great definition.
Here it is - 5.the policy or doctrine of asserting the interests of their own nation viewed as separate from the interests of other countries or the common interests of all Nations.
Again I ask the question. The Russian Federation is a multinational country. How can you be a nationalist in this country? How can you say the interests of their own nation separately from the interests of the whole country, of all nationalities inhabiting it?

stalker7162534
stalker7162534 wrote:
How can you be a nationalist in this country? How can you say the interests of their own nation separately from the interests of the whole country, of all nationalities inhabiting it?
1) to Make it at the level of the country, i.e. to pursue the interests of the state and the people inhabiting it.
2) Move the guests to the nub or to set restrictions to them.

stalker7162534 wrote:
nation and nationality, seems to be a different concept, no?
stalker7162534 wrote:
silently. turn on any of the regional TV channel's local historians in a moment will tell us what they are exceptional and how they live do not give

AiSPQR wrote:
nation and nationality, seems to be a different concept, no?
?????? um ...... really? It seems one and the same.
AiSPQR wrote:
silently. turn on any of the regional TV channel's local historians in a moment will tell us what they are exceptional and how they live do not give
The fact that Nazism(nationalism) thrives everywhere I know. And I don't like it.

Gauguin
Gauguin wrote:
1) to Make it at the level of the country, i.e. to pursue the interests of the state and the people inhabiting it.
So is patriotism. Instead of nationalism, which according to Your definition, the interests of their own nation. If the interests of all people, regardless of nationality - that is patriotism.

stalker7162534
stalker7162534 wrote:
So is patriotism. Instead of nationalism, which according to Your definition, the interests of their own nation. If the interests of all people, regardless of nationality - that is patriotism.
No, not exactly. Patriotism is the feeling, the emotion of a particular person. Nationalism - the state ideology.

Gauguin
In the interests of a particular nation is this ideology? If it's nationalism.
If the ideology of the state is the development of each person, creating for each person of acceptable living conditions, mutually beneficial cooperation with other countries to realize the above goal, the ideology of humanism.

stalker7162534 wrote:
?????? um ...... really? It seems one and the same.
Not all representatives of the Russian nation are Russian by nationality
stalker7162534 wrote:
So is patriotism. Instead of nationalism, which according to Your definition, the interests of their own nation. If the interests of all people, regardless of nationality - that is patriotism.
As I understand it, is simple:
My country must be the best state" - patriotism.
The people of our nation must be good - nationalism.
Only our nation has the right to good and everyone else is scum to us in slavery, that we do well - Nazism...

eroppo
eroppo wrote:
Not all representatives of the Russian nation are Russian by nationality
Look current dictionary
NATION | the Explanatory dictionary Dahl
well . Franz. the people, in a broad Val., the language of the tribe, the tribe; odnorodnye, speaking one common language, all classes.
eroppo wrote:
As I understand it, is simple:
My country must be the best state" - patriotism.
The people of our nation must be good - nationalism.
Only our nation has the right to good and everyone else is scum to us in slavery, that we do well - Nazism...
IMHO - people should be good = internationalism, humanism. only our nation should be well - Nazism, fascism, nationalism.
Why people of our nation should be well and not all people must be good?
Why divide humanity into Nations?

How did the nation do? IMHO. When ancient people began to settle on the planet. But geneticists say that all people originate from a single root. It is due to the dissociation of the settled people, stemming from the technological capabilities of those times, a separate group of people has lost the connection (linguistic, and genetic) with other groups. In each group were lost to individual genes. Inbreeding led to the fact that the descendants of this group became similar to each other. In addition, the development of language in each group went its own way. Thus arose the different languages and different nationalities.
Today technological progress has made it possible to communicate to all people on Earth as informational and tactile.
In the end (IMHO BLAH) all of humanity will become unified. Friendly and powerful.

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pakaur
It Society we are discussing the concept of the Nazis and nationalism. We are not discussing any nation, religion or politics.

stalker7162534
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picaper wrote:
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That is the task of the moderator is to remove such persons, to normal users of the forum could communicate.

stalker7162534
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pakaur
Okay cap!

Nationalism is a perverted form of patriotism.
Nazism is a perverted form of nationalism.
That's all I think about this topic.

in practice there is no difference. that the Nazis that nationalists rely on the assumption of the perfection of his race and nation. the concept of genetic traits, cultural and social are generally used interchangeably and often confused. so for example, for the Nazis characterized by the denial of the cultural achievements of representatives of another nation and Vice versa, respectively.
there is still a socialism and his ideas all resolutiva and equating very popular in society.

Let's settle the aborigines on their territory, may th useful podcherpnul - fiction
Let's put yourself vserazlichnyh natives, because they have there no food, no job, no money - humanism
But let's still think and won't settle - fascism, Nazism, misanthropy, extremism