Who will lead Temeria in the end? (Spoilers probably) (The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt)

Angelica04
How do we know?

Angelica04
Judging by the ending of The Witcher 2, Anais La Valette will become the new queen of Temeria, Here is a quote from Vicki
On the orders of Henselt, Detmold kidnaps Anais in order to share Temeria with Radovid. If the witcher helped Vernon Roche and did not give the girl to Radovid, she can keep Temeria's independence and become the future queen.
PS Judging by the fact that the Witcher 3 does not have Iorvet and his gang, the canon ending is still the one where Geralt helped Roche.
PPS When meeting Maria Louise La Valette in part 3, she doesn't say anything about Anais. Although if you kill Arian, then she will only say about Arian. So Anaska is alive.

Angelica04
Adda is either dead or Radovid's wife. Even if she is alive after the death of Radovid, she will not even be able to become the queen of Redania, since with the victory of Nilfgaard, all the kingdoms of the North, except Kovir, are occupied. The maximum that shines for her is an honorable captivity or exile. Nilfgaard will not allow her to rule Temeria. Even if she recognizes the authority of the emperor.

Anais is the illegitimate daughter of Foltest and Louise de Valette and has the right to the throne, especially if this right is backed up by the Imperial army. As far as I remember, regardless of the choice in the third chapter of The Witcher 2 (which is Roche, which is Iorveta), the girl remains alive. Roche protects her anyway. In The Witcher 3, I don't remember any mention of her death. And since Louise de Valette recognizes the power of the emperor, Roche, Thaler too - Anais - is the most likely candidate for the throne of Temeria. She will rule like Anna Henrietta in Toussaint, recognizing the power of the emperor (well, or the empress Ciri, who has ...)

There is, of course, the option that the king / queen of Temeria will appoint one of the Nilfgaardian imperial offspring (the same Anna-Henrietta is a relative of Emperor Emgyr) who have no prospects of power in Nilfgaard, or interfere with the emperor. Or a new dynasty will begin, after the election of the barons of Temeria (such as the Zemsky Sobor). But this will already be a person unknown to us, maybe not a character in books / games at all.

I dare to assume that Anais is alive. The Baroness only reacts to Ariane's death, and if all the children died, she would probably go insane (hello Cersei). So, most likely Anais will be the legal ruler, but who will rule before she raises the issue. Maybe both the mother and Roche, but why not.

AssasinKorvo
well, let's say in the last dls some NPC could say, in some random conversation. You can learn about the fate of the same Yovret only from the words of a simple elf in the forest, which you can listen to or skip even with a careful passage of the game.

Mantykora
Temeria, a new conquered vassal of the empire, to put a Nilfgaardian immediately is not reasonable, the patriots will consider such a vassal to be a fiction, and will continue to partisan. It is reasonable to first, to maintain the loyalty of the population, put a local, ideally from the old dynasty or a well-deserved respected Temer.

Ash tree stump, Geralt will be the new king, and then when Nilfgaard is smashed by the Emperor: D
Yes, I'm kidding, of course ... Tyler will rule) And his servants will be trolls who are sewing bots))
And so most likely Anais, well, maybe for now Jan Natalis or Roche. Only about the fate of Jan, little is known. But it would be nice for Temeria his rule, temporary, of course.

Angelica04
Thinking Roche will be regent until Anais grows up. And since her death is not mentioned anywhere, then most likely she is alive.

Mantykora wrote:
Nilfgaard will not admit her to power to Temeria. Even if she recognizes the authority of the emperor.
why?

I was also worried about the fate of Adda, until I was convinced that I was dealing with the curved monkeys from CDProject and the donkey Sapkovsky - even together they were not able to walk past other people's rakes and not step on them - players should not be given a choice - they gave in the second part of the Scrolls - and that in the end - it was necessary to build logical bridges with the Deformation of the West - otherwise the endings simply cannot be brought together. In Masycha and Dragon Age - they just scored on all decisions - the circus goes on. Now we are thinking and wondering, which ending is the canon - instead of getting this canon in the game, and not a bunch of meaningless choices - we saved Adda twice - and why, they deleted her from the plot anyway, went with Iorvet - but who needs him, erase it.

Logically, Adda is the recognized daughter of Foltest, after his death the legitimate queen of Timeria, after the death of Radovid - the legitimate queen of Redania. It is unlikely that she loved Radovid - she was pushed aside by Foltest so that she could have a good relationship with Redania, and if the psycho Radovid did not torture her, then what prevents her from making peace with Nilfgard? She is smart, with experience - why grow another bastard with a legitimate queen?

Xiahou Dun
Xiahou Dun wrote:
why?
Firstly, Adda is constantly dominated by her strigi past, especially in Temeria, so to speak, her political career has been tarnished forever. Secondly, she is the queen of Redania, who is occupied, and not like Temeria - a vassal of the empire, take one piece to give another? Thirdly, Adda is an adult woman who owes nothing to the empire, on the contrary, there are reasons for revenge (the selected kingdom, the murder of her father), weaving conspiracies against the emperor. Why risk it?

Anais will owe everything to the empire - both her life and the throne. She is still a child, it is easier to gain loyalty, manipulate, grow up and reach adulthood under the protection of the empire. Anyone who doubts Temeria about her rights to the throne (remember the second part of the game) will be gagged by the Imperials. To revenge for her father, whom she did not really know? There is a chance of this, but it is much less and until that moment there is still time to calmly end the war with the rest of the kingdoms of the North. And what will happen in 5-10 years? Problems will be addressed as they become available. In this variant, there are clearly more pluses for nilfs than minuses.

Mantykora wrote:
First of all, Adda is constantly dominated by her past strigi.
How? This is even wonderful - a secret, a highlight, people will be more afraid of it. In addition, if we recall our story with False Dmyry, the people quickly forgets what the previous ruler did to them badly, and hates external control - that is, there will be an extremely negative attitude towards the bastard Anais, and given the post-war period, all the dogs will be dropped on her - an inexperienced puppet, and for the sake of Adda the people would have suffered - nostalgia for Foltest's times, "she is the daughter of our good king," etc. Examples of real-life wagon history.

Mantykora wrote:
Secondly, she is the queen of Redania, which is occupied
she is the recognized daughter of Foltest, his direct heiress, it does not matter who she married.

Mantykora wrote:
Thirdly, Adda is an adult woman who owes nothing to the empire, on the contrary, there are reasons for revenge,
I think Radovid as a husband was clearly not a gift, but given that Foltest shoved her off to him - what reasons for revenge, rather reasons for joy - the husband of the monster is dead, the father who destroyed the country with his bastards is dead. If she is alive (because everything can be expected from Radovid) - then the most real contender for the throne of Timeria. Even Roche knows how they tried to control the de La Valets in the second part - who will guarantee that her next relative will not remove him from Anais?

In addition, Adda has certain connections among the nobility in Timeria, she may well promise them certain privileges for their support, which Anais is unable to do.

And weren't there the baron and the count claiming the throne of Temeria? Kimbolt and Maravel who. Jan Natalis was killed on the campaign, because Roche said that he was making his way to Novigrad with the remnants of his army. The scriptwriters of the projects merged Adda and Anais, as well as Iorveta and Saskia. Well, those who played probably know how projectors like to prescribe the consequences of your choices between parts of games - that is, nothing.

Mad_est
Mad_est wrote:
Was it not the baron and the count there who claimed the throne of Temeria? Kimbolt and Maravel who
But all their claims are still merged in the second part ... It doesn't matter if Anais is proclaimed the heiress of Foltest under the protection of Roche and Natalis, it doesn't matter if Radovid shares Temeria with Henselt, or chops off everything for himself - the nilfs will come from behind the Yaruga and Temeria will be occupied.
Mad_est wrote:
Jan Natalis was killed during the campaign, because Roche said that he was making his way to Novigrad with the remnants of his army.
But Roche did not talk about his death - the defeat of the army does not necessarily mean the death of its commander.
Mad_est wrote:
Addu and Anais, the project writers merged, as well as Iorveta and Saskia.
Well, in fairness about Saskia there is a story "A Matter of Conscience", although there is nothing about Iorvet. They say something about Iorveta says some elf in Novigrad, but I have not met or missed. Radovid can mention Adda in the second part (of course, if you import the save, where she is alive), but the third is generally silent - here you are right ... And if you help Roche "canonically" - this option is taken into account by default, very strange that Roche not a word about Anais.

And so yes - the freedom of choice in the game returns to the Projects like a boomerang ... It is still a shame for the unchanged world after the ending BEFORE: Novigrad still fires witches, the nilfs are fighting the Redans without a leader ... Keris does not mention the death of his father at all, no the funeral of Krekh an Krayt (and they are asking for). Shani fulfills the orders of the Redans, who have already been defeated ... Ciri drinks elixirs !!!, Triss and Ian equally burst into Geralt's home, which fits into Ian's character, but not Triss ... It's a shame for these missing details, they are very striking especially when the game pays attention to smaller details. The game is excellent, but there are also enough shortcomings. It turns out that I'm not such a fan))) Well, at least the love lines were corrected, otherwise in the first versions of the game, sex with Triss looked like a hookup - there was sex, and they forgot .... With Ian, it was more or less.

Xiahou Dun wrote:
she is Foltest's recognized daughter, his direct heiress, no matter who she married.
In the Middle Ages, it even has - and the era in the Witcher is medieval. The girl left her father's family and went to her husband's family, and in the event of a family conflict, she sided with her husband. Therefore, the girl's surname changed. This is now a change of surname - money in the pocket of the state and nothing more.
Xiahou Dun wrote:
If she is alive (because everything can be expected from Radovid) - then the most real contender for the throne of Temeria.
The girl who changed the family was most often deprived of the rights to the father's throne (if they were at all, depends on the rules of inheritance), her children could inherit (and even then not always, more often through war). Regarding the situation in the game - Anais has the same right to the throne as Adda, but Nilfgaard decides. Who will he choose most likely: the wife of his enemy or a little girl? And the people will draw everything with propaganda in the best possible way - you don't have to go far for examples in history - today they hang noodles well.

Mantykora wrote:
They say something about Iorveta is said by some elf in Novigrad, but I have not met or missed.
There seemed to be a conversation between two cattle in their camp:
- Iorvet was stuck with arrows like a hedgehog.
- Come on? And they say he was seen in Novigrad.
Mantykora wrote:
About Adda Radovid can mention in the second part (of course, if you import the save, where she lives)
Is that if you follow the Roche branch? Foltest also mentions Adda at the very beginning.
Mantykora wrote:
And so yes - the freedom of choice in the game returns to the Projects like a boomerang ... It is still a shame for the unchanged world after the ending BEFORE: Novigrad still fires witches, the nilfs are fighting the Redans without a leader ... Keris does not mention the death of his father at all, no the funeral of Krekh an Krayt (and they are asking for). Shani fulfills the orders of the Redans, who have already been defeated ... Ciri drinks elixirs !!!, Triss and Ian equally burst into Geralt's home, which fits into Ian's character, but not Triss ... It's a shame for these missing details, they are very striking especially when the game pays attention to smaller details. The game is excellent, but there are also enough shortcomings.
I completely agree with this.
Mantykora wrote:
It turns out I'm not that much a fan
Basically, only fanatics do not pay attention to the disadvantages of the game and deify it. Regular fans and other players tend to notice these things.
Mantykora wrote:
Well, at least the love lines were corrected, otherwise in the first versions of the game, sex with Triss looked like a hookup - there was sex, and they forgot .... With Ian, it was more or less.
Corrected a little in my opinion. On the good, some of the dialogues and cut scenes with Yennefer on Skellig need to be completely redone. Depending on whether you are in an affair with Triss or not. And just fill with dialogues: the witchers, Dandelion, Zoltan, etc.

Probably Anais will return by right, even if Roche is killed in the war, she is hidden from view, but the time will come.

Adda is dead by default, by the way. If you do not transfer saves to the second part.
With this development of events, I tend to lean more towards Anais when she becomes an adult. But the regent may be Morvran Voorhis (before he becomes emperor, after Emhyr / Ciri)

Roche ... Funny) Former chief of Temerian intelligence = regent of the vassal province of Nilfgaard? Emgyr will not allow this, and no matter that Roche has sworn allegiance to the White Flame, he will put a more confidant.

icebear2 wrote:
Probably Anais will return by right
by what right - Foltest did not officially recognize them, if it was still possible to stir up something with her son, then the young daughter of a bastard cannot claim anything at all.

Wild Rider
by logic - Geralt saved her once, why can't he do it a second time. For example, in the DLS hearts of stone, he regrets that he killed the toad-prince, although he could remove the curse from him if he knew about him, and this is despite how many people, innocent women were killed by this toad, and in the case of the striga, he the curse knows, knows how to remove it (although it does not remember that it has already been removed once) - so why should he kill her?

Xiahou Dun
Well, I'm just inclined to believe that this is the canonical option (as with Roche's choice in part 2), since the developers decided to score on Addu. And the living Adda somehow looks strange with Radovid's desire to get Anais to declare Temeria his protectorate. By and large, we were not explained his motives, one can only guess that Radovid wants to subsequently marry Anais and that this desire is somehow connected with Adda's curse.

Wild Rider wrote:
and that this desire is somehow connected with Adda's curse,
he is not able to satisfy Adda and therefore wants an inexperienced youngster; D More

canonical still a living Adda - well, Geralt cannot change his nature - he lost his memory, but not feelings. And it is natural that the developers scored on her - they are monkeys, according to the results of the second part in the infe they wrote that Phillippe was then burned at the stake in some year - but if you help her in the third part, help Emgyr by killing Radovid - then Nilfgard captures almost the entire continent, and Philip was supposed to take some place among the court sorcerers in Nilfgard, then how:

... as well as other Faithful, so also St. Philip was slandered, ascribed to it that she was acting to the detriment of the kingdom - which kingdom?
Nilfgard empire, people are not burned there, especially magicians. Redania fell - after the war of the witch hunters, together with the servants of the Eternal Fire, the fate of their victims awaits. It's just that the developers are crooked macaques, together with Sapkovsky - they are not able to work out the lore, make it logical - it's easier for them to just score - as they did with Adda - "Radovid's wife" and that's it.

Xiahou Dun
Xiahou Dun wrote:
well, Geralt cannot change his nature - he lost his memory, but not feelings.
I could just forget how to disenchant the stryga (we didn't just buy in part 1 of the book on monsters), or simply could not be sure that he could finally disenchant Adda.

Xiahou Dun wrote:
It's just that the developers are crooked macaques together with Sapkowski.
Well, about the developers, I can agree, they made a lot of blunders. They started with the resurrection of the characters (who had already died in the saga), and the introduction of ghosts into the game, ended with the mystical and incomprehensible White Cold (when, as in the book, it was explained as a very real physical process).
But what does Sapkowski have to do with it? He was not involved in game development.

Wild Rider wrote:
But what does Sapkowski have to do with it? He was not involved in game development.
I doubt it, after he screamed when the first part came out, that the Projects could have continued without his insatiable bread slicer.