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ArktFaint 25.01.21 07:11 pm

fair pvp / tvt + small survey (Diablo 2)

Just a small poll for the next tournament, which will most likely be in early February (mostly interested in the opinion of potential participants on the first point, and absolutely everyone connected with pvp on the second).
1. In what format do you want to see the next standard tournament, or tvt ?!
2. Last time, some participants were unhappy with the passive game, so I would like to hear suggestions for solving this problem, if in your opinion there is one.
3. If you have any suggestions related to the conduct of the tournament that did not fall into these 2, you can write about them in HP on the forum, or in this thread.
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F1r34ng3l 25.01.21

we can further call this the "firka effect"

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Sweety_Mustard 25.01.21

It was 2021, and someone still considered themselves better than the firm; C

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magyarorszag 25.01.21

F1r34ng3l Did
you understand what you just said? It was the players who developed fpk / gm rules by which people play, and which are fairly balanced and in principle do not violate anything. Otherwise, everyone would have played with 95 resists, a block with max dr, and were engaged in a passive 24/7 (which is partly done on pg), instead of an adequate game. Believe a person with three years of experience for different characters in fpk / gm against different people, and that humanity could not, alas, come up with anything better than this. Although you can continue to fill the lower pool with passive and escams and be surprised at the victories of the same people in the championships

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rambler87 25.01.21

Are rabies also banned like all poison?

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DELETEEND 25.01.21

magyarorszag wrote:
Trust a person with three years of experience
. Great.
Putin is the president, about the same age as Diable! Can you trust him too?

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firkax 25.01.21

magyarorszag wrote:
Trust a person with 3 years of experience for different characters
Trust a person with 15 years of experience for different characters, it's better not to listen to this magyaroszag. Like all adherents for "the block is anfair". The first time I heard this from Denisfondum, by the way, he demanded that my hummer remove the block against his chargemite.

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FludoTron 25.01.21

magyarorszag wrote:
Otherwise, everyone would have played with 95 resists, a block with max etc.
That is, with what the game provides.
Lol, I imagine, at the championship in kwaku, someone will start to push that playing with a railgun or picking up hp is not fair)

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Obsessed 25.01.21

FludoTron, Quake and BFG have it, it's from the game, but not fair. ;-) no need to go to extremes, regulation is necessary. but not through srach, but forced, from a groping brow. and 100% it will not suit someone. but here people are too soft, despite 15 years of experience. ;-)
I finally hint at lalkar. and yes, I don’t go into pvp / fair, but forgive me, I don’t see any prospects for the discussion here. ))

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DELETEEND 25.01.21

Obsessed
Well, the discussion brought some results in the form of KB on zhuvelin and the position of a fair admin!
True, that odmen came into something and he was removed .. Now there is no new odmen on the forum. And new changes, too, probably not worth waiting for. And there are no adequate proposals.
Regarding the liabilities, even

finally F1r34ng3l offers a topic. Turik without rules, except for going out of the field, in some kind of snake or even smaller location. Truth will defeat all necromancer of some kind (

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firkax 25.01.21

Obsessed wrote:
I finally hint at lalkar
Results, alas, are evident. Although of course this is not an obvious, immediate consequence, it is nevertheless, in hindsight, quite understandable.

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firkax 25.01.21

DELETEEND wrote:
Truth will defeat all necromancers of some kind.
Not necessarily. Although, of course, everyone knows that boner is the biggest, but there is a balance. Is that odnostiyki without a chance, everyone else can. And if you are not allowed to change clothes between rounds, then even one-element forty have a chance to get to the top.

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FludoTron 25.01.21

firkax
I'm certainly not a pvp expert, but a wind druid like a boner does it in general.

Obsessed
Does QC have bfg? I didn't see when I played, I thought that she only remained in the old quake plots)

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Obsessed 25.01.21

firkax, I do not know by what number and place (and most importantly to whom) it is understandable, but I agree that it is not obvious-direct. overloaded Enz boshki to users - it's a fact.

FludoTron, QCh - crap, the most frequent quakes were 1, 2, 3 and QL: D and in 5 mb years and QCh will become normal; D

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Eleganza 25.01.21

There is a priority of attack: the character attacks with advantage. Having the duty to give pockets for "passive", ICQ will be the first to fly off (they are stronger than forty), rising from 10 seconds afk in the ladders. Already on snakes, you can catch a fish, this is the case of 1 lock. ESke I would award pockets in the round on snakes only in a duel against a handy hummer online (for the ESka priority, and it was he who attacked).

Tomorrow the Conflict on the amke will win and everyone will demand that the amka remove the arrows and run with a spear on the asec or what? There is no problem in ESki. If they are so strong, why doesn't anyone go to tournaments with them? All ESki on the last tours were mine.

Whoever needs it - catches up and kills forty (like a druid! At the last tournament). I understand, I really want, when you are hung with OV, PD, shadow and other delights, so that a magpie with 1 hp (after the first hit) will locate you. But it is enough that it flies for 1 screen and does pew-pew (I was always in sight on the map).

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magyarorszag 25.01.21

firkax
Wanguyu, that all this 15 year "experience" (which you invented five minutes ago) will be in the form of a hummer standing in the field of hammers for 75-80% of the entire duel (and flying away to heal with meditation), a druid with wolves in a DvN duel, trapasinky, sitting in traps the whole duel, eski with a block and overshoots, etc., a hammer without enigma, an assassin, rabies of a druid, a barb who makes a lime underfoot 50% of the time, and other random slag, which (or against which) you played as much as possible in open pvp games. Better not disgrace yourself more than you can; D

Well, in fact, I have already written. Or fpk / gm rules and the presence of hands (plus, preferably normal and long preparation of players for the tournament, during which you can collect everything you need for the Persian, and not then run in a park, or a magpie in a talrash), or it will be random and the victory of some same people at tournaments

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firkax 25.01.21

magyarorszag
all by
can you name your account in the game, the achievements of which everyone here knows and admires?

Obsessed wrote:
Enz overloaded boski to users - this is a fact.
no, here, in my opinion, all the rules were (although I could be wrong), I'm talking about the general policy regarding pvp, it was before and after it, developing over time

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SQUELLARE 25.01.21

And I'm for tvt!

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CONFLICT_OFFICIAL 25.01.21

Eleganza
Blocky eska kills an Amazon from 1 lock, and does not play for 3 screens, from time to time closing the distance and flying away to regen. And then there are snakes, where it's even easier ... columns, an obstacle in the form of a rock and an entrance. The rules are not prohibited. I see. But what kind of offensive priority are you talking about?: D

Eska sets the pace for the game. It is not limited by mp, has the ability to dial its 35 repla, block. And where does the arrow or spear? Since when did they start to be afraid of Amazons: DD Why with other classes and assemblies such questions have never arisen.

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magyarorszag 25.01.21

firkax
I don't play here, because the beggar drop kills any desire to be here. And maybe you better show your videos, where your "unreal" 15-year-old "skill" can be seen? I can provide

mine , if necessary; D FludoTron
In the same CS 1.6 there is a shield that is not used in tournaments, as well as automatic snipers, although the game provides them. Or in the third heroes there are some rules that restrict players from using what is in the game. Why not use here, by analogy, the rules that are already more than ten years old, and according to which the best players in the world + most of the rest of the people play (although there all sorts of firms can roar that since they do not have an account here, and since they do not drive here are wigs to dress better than 95% of the rest of the players and spread this% of the people in tournaments, then they are nobody here)

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Sayyouneed 25.01.21

SQUELLARE
For a very dirty unfair tvt!