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2 Charles Manson
fool))

2 Dimon_R_D aka Rockman
Nehru to cite a song in which I do not understand.. YU sings about his lost wife and on the day of her funeral.. a live performance is one of the best songs.. but why would you? think first learn..

2 john_j89
Thank you very much!!! Awesome write with a hangover, will be treated to music))

2 john_j89
all downloaded.. at home after work would love to hear it.. thanks again, really appreciate it because in our neck of the woods still more than one month looking for((

2 john_j89
all downloaded.. at home after work would love to hear it.. thanks again, really appreciate it because in our neck of the woods still more than one month looking for((

2Clockgen
What a rant =))) If I didn't think I would receive 3 000$ in a month, doing only oral and written work. Mind you, I'm not going to fall to your level of primacy and insult you. I write what I'd learned to think... Answer is - learn Russian language. Learn to read. Learn how to write. And look at the last four letters at the end of my post... of course you're with an awesome hangover, is not noticed, before the eyes of all the floats... In the head playing Russian rock...
PS
What I don't like Russian rock, so that everything without exception addicts and alcoholics ( and don't need to convince me, on the TV show interviews many rock musicians of domestic spill that openly admitted this)...
P. P. S.
It is much nicer to listen to foreign songs about the country's problems, youth and the world at large, than to take on his chest more than anything white that would delve into three meaning of a hundred lines in any rock ballad Patriotic Metalist times of the USSR.
P. P. P. S.
For the most stupid and narrow-minded again, this is IMHO.

2 Dimon_R_D aka Rockman

1. to beat Ponty - no bags to roll.. get peace at least 10 kilobaksov but here is the interesting few..
2. about primacy - that is a mistake.. I am a supporter of creationism))
3. to read, write, etc. thank God taught.. a copy of the certificate and diploma is not required?
4. about my today's hangover special: first, this post wasn't for you and therefore none of your business; secondly, at the moment, a hangover anymore)) and head just a job.. which is what you want))
5. Well at least YU is not a drug addict 100% - not the age.. by the Way, mind you: the pop dope, drink, etc. - the norm, in the same rock (I mean groups established in Soviet times) - quite adequate intelligent people.
6. Oh Yes, I see you are a globalist.. and problems country you are not interested? By the way YU probably the only poet who openly criticizes the government and says what he thinks and not what pays the most.. Pathetic huh? But it is.
7. rewrite your last PPP not hunting, just prisoedenysi

PS: Just suggesting hair of the dog - refused)) medal to me))

And.. I forgot why I came here..


Note: the discussion of DDT album Perfect love (2007), I and tov. john_i89 propose to deal with in a separate branch:

http://forums.playground.ru/music/160237/

Common criticism of creativity YU welcome some comrades (see above) to listen to the subject, only then to speak.. Hopefully we will have something and someone to talk to!

Sparring with you is not part of my plans. Neither my opinion nor yours to change will not succeed. A fair wind in a humpbacked back ;)

2 Clockgen
Let alone this nerd who receive 3 pieces every month... (although, it seems to me that this type of school still not finished).
Not to understand this passage:

Crows in the sky, under the sky of the monks,
And I between them in embroidered shirt
Lying in the open, light and comely,
And the sun is older and younger than the wind...

Spring shaking from doleful bell,
Knocked two drops on the icon,
That was resting peacefully between his arms,
And I kissed the cheerful flame

can only person who first heard of Shevchuk and knows nothing about his fate.
Of course, songs like I loved him, he sent me are much easier then and I wish Dimon_R_D aka Rockman - listen to what you know.
And the fact that Shevchuk is a drug addict/alcoholic is, to put it mildly, nonsense. I don't particularly like junkies writing even a good song - after all, creativity is not owned by him.
And the poems Shevchuk is POETRY, and with a capital letter. Not write THIS none of the alcoholic/addict.

By the way, with the hangover DDT really picks up. Especially this is the - HOMELAND :)
And while the free. traffic, here are three more-or-less newly klepacka:
Missing - http://w13.easy-share.com/1166898.html
Tenderness - http://w13.easy-share.com/1166887.html
She http://w13.easy-share.com/1166846.html
I went to speak about the new album :)

Well...
This album is really NEW. Although DDT every album is special and unique.
I think the songs have YU had your reasons. And, in General, which is understandable :) I mean songs with social meaning. Listen to them really funny and sad.
Someone album Perfect love and not like it, but I don't understand... :(
In General, my opinion is to listen to definitely!

2 Dimon_R_D aka Rockman
more reasonable counterarguments is not delivered, Tovarisch?))) Const in both holes, jump sideways (C))))

2 john_j89
hi, thanks again for the Perfect love!!! waiting for the end of the day to quickly check out this masterpiece of YU. As all listen times for 40)) at once I will unsubscribe about impressions..

PEOPLE!!!!! WHO IN THE TOPIC, GO HERE:

forums.playground.ru/music/160237/

Hello brother))
Thanks for the Perfect love!!!!!
Right now come home from work, I'll post it on comp, will include acoustics Creative T3100 2.1 and will listen again at 40))) Lepota!!!

Of course just unsubscribe..

2 Wertex

so they (Shevchuk, Kinchev, BG, Makarevich, etc.) have long since factories don't work and probably drink too health does not allow)) I agree that the sound quality and definition is not up to the same level of the Movies.. But it's like graphics in RPG - is not important. Why most of the songs YU goes to the people? Because of the heart and soul.. And writes his own melodies in each song there is, and mind you: it is often implemented only with a simple acoustic guitar. It is also necessary to be able.

What do you think is the real music?

Real music is that timeless.

Just art.

The same Depeche Mode (the fans of which I am not, just for example) - no need to comment from the sidelines. As with translations for non-English speaking. Their tracks have their own ATMOSPHERE, they sound like they're made of in the same breath, although this is the work of dozens of professional image-makers, sounddesigner, engineers, producers...

So they and the world is listening.

And interesting almost any of their tracks - at least 84, at least 2005 because it has the sound concept of its time, the sounds of distinctive instruments, which are now rarities, simple, but really professional arrangements - in General, keep the spirit of the time. And listening to the so-called Russian rock" of the period 84-89 years, except pity for the guys who are trying hard to be as big, nothing more I feel. Of course, it was hard to start, to take the first step in the country in which they lived - everything was against them. But it's been 20 years, and essentially nothing has changed. The main problem of post-Soviet rock is marking time, reproduction of Western music and their own stamps.

Russian rock" - is, of course, guys out of my sandbox. Sing small-town themes that are close and clear to each inhabitant of the former USSR.

Only this is real music.

The only exception for me Auction. Really interesting and unique band. But unfortunately (or fortunately?), not for the mass audience, not for tough guys;)

2 Wertex
Completely and totally join so they (Shevchuk, Kinchev, BG, Makarevich, etc.) have long since factories don't work and probably drink too health does not allow))
From Yuri Shevchuk was (and is) a good poem can be read as poetry.
You don't say! I did not notice! I thought he peeesy sings!!!
But as a musical phenomenon of the so-called Russian rock - no. As a social, poetic - Yes, of course.

The same Depeche Mode (the fans of which I am not, just for example) - no need to comment from the sidelines. As with translations for non-English speaking. Their tracks have their own ATMOSPHERE, they sound like they're made of in the same breath, although this is the work of dozens of professional image-makers, sounddesigner, engineers, producers...

listening to the so-called Russian rock" of the period 84-89 years, except pity for the guys who are trying hard to be as big, I don't feel
Well, Yes, Yes. Answer with your own example (he dispatch did not listen and it is unlikely I will).
Do you think if the tracks do hundreds of people that would be better?
According to you, the song of DDT do not have their atmosphere?
Do the song, because it is written on the world's best recording Studio, it becomes better than the one that is sung in the courtyard of the guitar?
In my opinion, you just don't understand the concept of Russian rock, especially since the Soviet Union. When the songs were recorded in basements on four-track tape recorders, and from all parties. No clocking, no e sound. ALL at once and live. That's what DDT the 80's.
No one forced them to do what they do. THEY did it because they COULD NOT OTHERWISE. In the same way as today. No one is trying to convince.
They have fans, in the hearts of millions, they turned on the light.
And I think we have to respect them for that. And call their music"not music" is sinful.
Still, get the track stored on a January night..., there is of course concert sound, but this song only gets better. Listen. And then once again I will say that IT is music!

2 john_j89

Yes, I heard this track. And concerta DDT was, 20th century program, about 8 years ago. Many other groups aka Russian rock - also went to concerts. Most will tell you, I myself was fond of such music. Because it seemed cutting edge art.

Just out of any items ever grow up. Seemed cool to sit in the sandbox and play with toy cars. Distinctly remember that I thought then - why is it adults don't play with toy cars in the sandbox, it's so great?

Now it's cool and interesting I think. Doesn't seem as interesting and the musical Russian rock.

[offtop]Once touched on my education ;)
Now I'm supposed to study on the 3rd course. But for a year not learning. And all for one simple reason. The protection course on a subject of economy, I spoke on the topic of Marx, Keynes and the development of small business. Then I was asked to continue, but with other participants in the other place. I was the most promising and held a competition on management of the sales Department. Then, not having finished first year, I left the Institute. [offtop]
more reasonable counterarguments is not delivered, Tovarisch?
Counter-arguments a lot. List? (waiting for an answer Yes)))
Of course, songs like I loved him, he sent me are much easier
I want to say that I listen to pop music? You're wrong ;) Except for work, in the evenings, I also play alternative rock in a club with his band. Give references on tracks? And in such pop songs (though I have them and allergies) goraaazdo more sense than in most texts of the Russian rock group.
And foreign rock group the meaning in the songs even more (though you also need to know the language ;)
johan j89
Translate given me a passage to the Russian language, explain its meaning. Then I will keep talking to you.
The musical part of Russian rock. Three chords in A-Moll - this is my melody in every song? Yes, Clockgen, you just well versed in the musical part ;)
Listen to the old albums Metallic'and tell me where is more music. Well, Yes, of course, polakowski Russian rock cannot be compared with heavy music decadent West ;)
Let at 22 I'm still a teenager. And, apparently, here on the forum there are people older than me. But his views, I have already formed. And change them is not going to.
About alcohol and drugs...
The question - did you hear about family scandals Shevchuk? Look for information why they were leaking ;)
Forgot to add to the first offtop.
The second course was in absentia. And the first spread for the money.

2 Dimon_R_D aka Rockman
There's something johan'th is signed by my brother :) And I therefore Junior, to not be confused :)
Translate given me a passage to the Russian language, explain its meaning. Then I will keep talking to you.
He write about family scandals YU. So, you know, why, and when his wife died. Then what is there to understand? Such a blow for creative people - this song just had to appear. Indeed, one of the best songs.
About TRANSLATE. Imagine - YU die close to him. How to translate into Russian language of his screams and suffering??? Which is this song.
And when the group first started to earn some money - Yes, they drank. Drank as would any who had not known how to exist at all.
If you want to say that YU or someone else from DDT alcoholic - I pity you.
Supposed to drink a couple of glasses of beer in the bath a couple times a month is the alcoholism? Sorry, then we have the WHOLE country at the age of 13+ are alcoholics.
Playing rock? Well done. Then I doubly don't understand.
And yet - don't want to impose someone the opinion, let everyone listens to what he wants, just not the top twenty hit parade of Europe plus. Although it in a pinch, you can.
But about the fact that pop music makes more sense than the songs of DDT - this is all pure nonsense. And I don't need to talk about it, just playing himself alternative. Just to say THIS is a crime.
All the best.

On the first point, and knew you'd say that. Nothing good for lyrics you didn't.
The meaning of pop songs - it's snot love, a past favorite, etc. Shit??? Of course, I know it's shit, I don't perevarivaya pop music, I hate her... Just all these songs clearly the theme and ideology. And nothing veiled.
All, stop arguing about the meaning. I still do not understand. I agree with you - it is. And very, very serious. But I don'T UNDERSTAND!!! And the fact that pop music makes more sense - I didn't say. He just served differently :)

On the first point, and knew you'd say that. Nothing good for lyrics you didn't.
You could not tell. To talk about the meaning of such songs - just a sin.
Just all these songs clearly the theme and ideology.
Sorry! Ideology of all sorts of songs about love I can see. Maybe because you haven't loved :)
And the fact that pop music makes more sense - I didn't say.
Ha! Then at least watch what you write! Here is a copy and paste from your post:
And in such pop songs (though I have them and allergies) goraaazdo more sense than in most texts of the Russian rock group.
Your words? To argue, then argue, but from your words, do not give up.
Respect people, hating the pop music in all its forms and manifestations, but the writing is...
By the way!!! People! Anyone has the song Rain with a Symphony orchestra? How many are already searching for does free link can't find :(

Didn't want to speak on this topic, but how blatantly crap comrade. Dimon_R_D aka Rockman, I was irritated..

Somehow I think that fans of Russian rock love it not because you really love, and because of the fact that they are just nothing but have not heard of it, content with the majority opinion, which insists that it niipacca antipops. I can understand if people just like one or the other group, the tastes do not argue... But judging by the way here deify Shevchuk, there is the obsessive idea that none of you except for Russian rock nifiga not heard... Yes indeed. The view that the West is only doing gum, characterizes the speaker as a completely incompetent person. You fixated on one style, not perceiving in addition to rusaka anything. As you all try to argue about anything? Do you even listen to that thread again. And there already and expressed their opinions.

My attitude about the subject and similar groups will Express by the phrase of one man:

The lyrics are on the first place not because they are good, but from the fact that the music is shit (C)

Of course, IMHO.