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Podvipodvertov 02.11.19 03:27 am

Programming from scratch.

People! There are people who with zero, absolute zero started to learn programming, and who could succeed to such an extent that it's even become profitable, even if not great.
Just happened to come to one forum, there is just discussed about programming, and there were people who claimed that they began to learn programming 30 - 35, and before that even a computer how to enable do not know. And after two years of independent studies, they have to earn 70 -120K rubles a month.
And here I thought, and don't lie do they? Is it real? If you start to learn the basics of programming with scratch, even if I need it 2 - 3 - 5 years, do not care, it will be good, no? Worth trying, or well, it nafig?
I actually have no idea such programming. Just an opportunity to make money, even a few years, let it be not big money, but the opportunity to earn something for yourself, not working for the man, I'm always lured.
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masha 02.11.19

Podvipodvertov
Difficult question, I don't know.
To learn arrays, loops, stack, functions, and all you programmist.

Start teaching and want to quit, don't quit. Jobs do that to you in the book are given.
Or, for example, may want to leave this language and move on to another. Also you can't quit, so don't learn anything.
The main necrocide, and get comfortable. And saw his facial joints.

JavaScript can teach.
Here's an example-picture book.
Freeman E., Robson E. - Learning JavaScript programming (Head First O'Reilly) - 2015.pdf

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Podvipodvertov 02.11.19

Masha
Thank you for such a detailed response.
Python for kids. Jason Briggs.
JavaScript for kids. Nick Morgan.
Scratch for kids. Smears The Margin.
Programming for children. Illustrated guide to the languages Scratch and Python.
I think to start with these books, each a thorough study. And I have no idea what it is, I think it is enough to begin, and then move on to more serious literature, and it will be easier when there is some idea about it.
I don't pretend to be something that would work in any top firm for 100 thousand and above, I think for this you need to do this since high school, and then enroll in a special school. To me that's almost 30 years, so the maximum that I expect to broaden my horizons in this area, and can be year through 2 - 3, to execute any orders for a little money.

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Rolemanser 02.11.19

Podvipodvertov
Just consider that if you want to work in a large company at 85% you will be asked to crust that you are a programmer, even if you're a programmer and coder from God, you simply show the door, it is 10 years ago when there was a shortage of programmers, it was important not your crust but on what and how you are able to program and to understand someone else's code.
And uncles soon just kidding, because usually it happens the following situation, expanding staff of programmers, and it so happens that meets charity anikeychik or it specialist in this office and that not to take left-wing uncle, he said, and let ka you will go to us, define it for short-term courses for the crust, and then trained on the job.

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D1_ 02.11.19

Podvipodvertov
The programmer is always learning. It is impossible to learn once.
Wherever you come you will give the job to finish continent in the game for example and you should be to read the code, finish it for another developer if it is not necessary and only then start writing your.
It's long, it's tedious. Here, note that the programmer is very rarely played in games, because you need to give your eyes a rest from the screen.
Most likely the game companies will have to sell and get some lightweight laptop for 100 kasara as mobility privyshe all.
I wanted to be a programmer, but it was too late. My sight is not 100% and even a little bit and I wear glasses. So I made a choice and gave up this profession
Now I have time to play only in the morning and evening. The rest of the time work

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D1_ 02.11.19

Rolemanser wrote:
And uncles soon just kidding, because usually it happens the following situation, expanding staff of programmers, and it so happens that meets charity anikeychik or it specialist in this office and that not to take left-wing uncle, he said, and let ka you will go to us, define it for short-term courses for the crust, and then trained on the job.
Rarely. Almost everyone doesn't care about you. Many people want everything and immediately
Rolemanser wrote:
Just consider that if you want to work in a large company at 85% you will be asked to crust that you are a programmer,
Subway buy ), provided that knowledge is.

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Rolemanser 02.11.19

D1_
But that's if you're going to work not in cowboy's office, the personnel Department may make a request in the institution in which you studied, and an unpleasant situation get...

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A.Soldier of Light 02.11.19

Rolemanser wrote:
the personnel Department may make a request in the institution in which you studied, and an unpleasant situation get...
For example?

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MunchkiN 616 02.11.19

in order to learn programming in a cool language
Chu need intelligence above the average human
learning higher srednecenovogo
level 12 and above, and points a lot of training to reach the skill of God programirovaniya and take from 10 thousand rubles per hour as you take a middling novice programmers are able to develop a procedurally generated open world seamless MMO kosmoski.
in Minya points of learning and intelligence, even at peace and everything related to free and design sites independent is not enough so I gave that up and went back to greatone

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Rolemanser 02.11.19

A. Soldier of Light
Then depends on your luck and what kadrovika will fall, if you're lucky you'll just take a fake diploma and will be shown the door, and if will not carry a criminal sentence of up to 6 months in prison or a fine of a hundred minimum wages.

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A.Soldier of Light 02.11.19

Rolemanser wrote:
if you're lucky you have just taken away the fake diploma
But if the diploma is real? My question was not about the diploma, and the assessment of a potential employee on the basis of the study. While to assess the need for specific performance indicators in the process, and not according to which of the universities with a high rating studied by the applicant.

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Rolemanser 02.11.19

A. Soldier of Light
There's just one man said I could cum in you switch to buy, I said that if the test will do, and to find out that he is not real, there will be problems.
As there is a choice job seekers in HR, I don't know.

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A.Soldier of Light 02.11.19

Rolemanser wrote:
As there is a choice job seekers in HR, I don't know.
It's about the experience of working at same place) the Rest is secondary.
Of course all this is assuming that the documents are real (it was implied by me by default).

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rambling 02.11.19

Podvipodvertov wrote:
And here I thought, and don't lie do they?
Don't lie. I also began programming from scratch at the age of 31, and also moonlighting this. Quite possible, but you need a good knowledge of the English language to write scripts.